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hayzcustoms
01-07-2004, 10:54 PM
ok so who is going i went last year and the weather stunk but it was still fun, so who is going this year? i know it is a ways away but i have noticed attendance requires notices well ahead of time. if we get 25 cars on display our club can have a tent for free...hmmm turbobricks tent sounds nice.

nick

240T man
01-07-2004, 11:04 PM
I'm in, and I'm personally dedicating the trip to Matt - him and I were going to caravan down there last year, well that got cut short :-( :-( :-(


C'mon guys, let's do this. 25 isn't hard...

stylngle2003
01-07-2004, 11:12 PM
i'll go!!!
i coulda sworn that they were not bringing it back this year but whatever...
we could have an eastcoast caravan....starting with isaac and the rest of the FLA boys moving up up up
would be sweet, good way to meet a bunch of TBricksters finally!


Billy

towerymt
01-08-2004, 02:55 AM
The custom compact show will be elsewhere (early May, usually).

The import/kit-replicar show will be on as scheduled (mid May).

25 will be easy. Signup in advance and it's $15 for the weekend. $20 at the gate.

KBFinFan
01-08-2004, 10:42 PM
I'd like to go this year... keep me posted..

Turbobricks tent would be sweet

QuickBrick
01-13-2004, 01:03 AM
Count me in. I'm looking forward to it. There are always some really impressive bricks there each year. Heck, I am even skipping out on my duties as an official for National Auto Sport Association this weekend. Wouldn't miss it!

boostdemon
01-13-2004, 01:05 PM
if you guys want, i'll get a banner made up and we can start filling in from the other side of the VCOA folks on their row....

get some good photos too. If you go, come camp out with us... nothing like drinking out in the field freezing your arse off

towerymt
01-13-2004, 04:24 PM
nothing like drinking out in the field freezing your arse off

Shut up! It's going to be warm this year, I promise. It's a 3 year cycle.

hayzcustoms
01-22-2004, 06:03 PM
keeping it fresh...bump

boostdemon
01-22-2004, 09:10 PM
[quote:83404f2739="tryckjävel"]nothing like drinking out in the field freezing your arse off

Shut up! It's going to be warm this year, I promise. It's a 3 year cycle.[/quote:83404f2739]

its still gonna rain :-P

towerymt
01-22-2004, 11:47 PM
[quote:468cbcfdb9="towerymt"][quote:468cbcfdb9="tryckjävel"]nothing like drinking out in the field freezing your arse off

Shut up! It's going to be warm this year, I promise. It's a 3 year cycle.[/quote:468cbcfdb9]

its still gonna rain :-P[/quote:468cbcfdb9]

Bet...loser pays for the other's entrance fee. I'm going to say it won't rain on Saturday or Sunday during the show (show ends when drawing is done on Sun.)

boostdemon
01-23-2004, 12:25 AM
deal :wink:

riseosiris
01-23-2004, 02:48 PM
I'm down...and I don't care if it rains...that's the good thing about owning a wagon, drop the seats and you have a nice sleeping area :lol:
-Lloyd

hayzcustoms
01-28-2004, 10:33 PM
so what if we made this a sticky and kept track of who registered so we know when we qualified for a tent?

just my thoughts
nick

gdogg16
02-02-2004, 07:25 PM
Count me in! Were do you register?

mAydAy
02-02-2004, 08:00 PM
:grrr:
This is the weekend before exams for me. If it was 1 week later I could do it.
-Andy

derosa
02-02-2004, 11:20 PM
I would also be up for this, any links to a signup page or flier? :e-shrug:

hayzcustoms
02-03-2004, 08:14 AM
http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CE&Category_Code=IN

that is the link that should take you right to the registration page.

hope that helps
nick

Tenacious Todd
02-03-2004, 02:28 PM
I am in AGAIN !! Hopefully have MOST of my cars. This Time!!

hockey930
02-03-2004, 04:43 PM
I would like to go, I have to check the hockey scedual.
Eamonn

240T man
02-04-2004, 07:39 PM
I would like to go, I have to check the hockey scedual.
Eamonn

schedule, damnit! :rofl:

Can't you request off?

hockey930
02-04-2004, 09:57 PM
I have dda and dislexia, what do you want from me? :-)
Eamonn

gdogg16
02-06-2004, 12:07 AM
ok so who is going i went last year and the weather stunk but it was still fun, so who is going this year? i know it is a ways away but i have noticed attendance requires notices well ahead of time. if we get 25 cars on display our club can have a tent for free...hmmm turbobricks tent sounds nice.

nick
So on the registration page, what should we put as club? Turbobricks, VCOA?????? We want to register for showfield right?

ptouch20
02-06-2004, 10:50 PM
i'm sure i'll be there...i hope micheal and dana pose nude on MY car this time...

240T man
02-06-2004, 11:52 PM
Greg, were you at Stillman with the laser blue V70R? that car in your sig pic looks pretty damn familiar...

gdogg16
02-08-2004, 01:18 PM
Greg, were you at Stillman with the laser blue V70R? that car in your sig pic looks pretty damn familiar...

That was I! :wink:

240T man
02-10-2004, 11:24 AM
[quote:164876ade4="760T man"]Greg, were you at Stillman with the laser blue V70R? that car in your sig pic looks pretty damn familiar...

That was I! :wink:[/quote:164876ade4]

Thought so. That color is the sickest color ever, damn shame it didn't make it to the production S60R. :grrr:

vspd
02-10-2004, 07:56 PM
I am in don't worry about that.. I'll get some guys from York to come.. i just want to meet some volvo people and not these honda rice burners.. any one that is going e-mail me and tell me what's going on....

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/505000-505999/505167_23_full.jpg

vspd
02-10-2004, 08:00 PM
the show is moved to harrisburg PA at the farm show complex
http://www.agriculture.state.pa.us/fscomplex/CWP/view.asp?A=3&QUESTION_ID=128684

hayzcustoms
02-11-2004, 08:04 PM
i might be wrong but i think that is a different show that was moved due to a rowdy crowd last year. that is the custom compact show not the import kit car nationals which is the show that volvo usually attends.

please correct me if i am wrong
nick

240T man
02-11-2004, 08:12 PM
[quote:ac1d179efc]Dates: May 15-16
Event: Carlisle Custom Compact at Harrisburg
Contact: Mike Kelsch Phone: 717-243-7855 ext. 113
Web Site: www.carsatcarlisle.com Email: info@customcompact.com[/quote:ac1d179efc]
That's the riceboy show.

towerymt
02-12-2004, 12:38 AM
Look up, I answered that a month ago.

Anyone interested in some autocross on Sunday? They have a "driver training" session on Saturday, and an autocross/time trial on Sunday. I think I'll do it this year since IT'S NOT GOING TO RAIN! $20 each, or $30/both.

boostdemon
02-12-2004, 01:14 AM
yes he was at stillman

ptouch20
02-12-2004, 01:39 AM
don't know if i'll have el engine in the 744 by then, but i'll show up with the ol' 242ti and jimmy's 944 probably too. I like droolin over the saabs at this show.

towerymt
02-12-2004, 03:50 AM
I like droolin over the saabs at this show.

I hear they like it when guys pose naked by their cars.

boostdemon
02-12-2004, 01:04 PM
they're gonna love my sticker courtesy of robin :twisted:

hayzcustoms
02-18-2004, 02:29 PM
so what was the final ruling on the turbobricks banner?

thanks
nick

240T man
02-18-2004, 02:49 PM
do it.

yorkbrick
02-19-2004, 09:47 PM
Yeh, we'll all have wet feet this year watching Rob change his driveshaft again, right?

I'am in for this year!

Lets atleast try to get close to the SAAB numbers. 2nd was nice!

Volvorules
02-19-2004, 11:31 PM
Hey, it'll be dry this year, so I can swap my driveshaft without getting soaked :)

No, I don't think I should have that trouble this year...hope it doesn't come to that anyway. :x:

Afturmath
02-22-2004, 10:01 PM
I'm in with 4 other cars from the shop where I work (A Volvostore/Import Service in Virginia Beach) and a few other friends. Overall I'd say there will probably be a good 8 Volvos coming from Virginia Beach.

hayzcustoms
02-26-2004, 11:28 AM
so attendance looks like it is going to be good and back to the banner....as we know the saab guys will need something besides real cars to stare at. is it doable? i would be willing to make a donation (as large as a college student can)

thanks
nick

Zee
03-07-2004, 05:36 PM
:-) I am already in, but listed my entry under VCOA because I didn't see this interest thread until now.

My 740tic is still stock, anyhow. :e-shrug: You won't miss me.

I'll be on the auto-x course most of the time. :x:

riseosiris
03-08-2004, 04:00 PM
ARGH! It looks like I may be leaving for business on either Sat or Sunday. What is the schedule like there? Is it cool to come just Friday night and Saturday Day? (I'm in DC, so it's a short drive) Also, are we registering for the show field...and are people camping there too?
-Lloyd

Zee
03-08-2004, 08:38 PM
ARGH! It looks like I may be leaving for business on either Sat or Sunday. What is the schedule like there? Is it cool to come just Friday night and Saturday Day? (I'm in DC, so it's a short drive) Also, are we registering for the show field...and are people camping there too?
-Lloyd

There is no problem attenting whatever times you can (although be aware there are no night activities). You come and go as you please, with most of the action taking place on Saturday. If you do arrive Friday afternoon, you can cruise the vendor tents and indoor booths to try to make some quick deals on parts, accessories, etc. Some bargains are to be had as Sunday wears on, and these vendors seek to cut inventory at reduced prices.

Camping is available on grounds, though not on the showfield, itself. On top of a hill overlooking the showfield is a parking lot for those who didn't wish to park a car along with their fellow enthusiasts on the showfield. Beyond this hill, in a broad gully between the hill and the PA Turnpike, lays the auto-x course.

To the North of the p-lot and track is the camping area. Easily walkable to the showfield and vendors. I don't knnow what they have for water, toilet, electric, etc.

Contact Cars at Carlislse directly for information.

towerymt
03-08-2004, 11:07 PM
Definitely come if you can make it for Sat. afternoon. I'd say between 11am-2pm is when there are the most people there, and there are more cars on Sat. than on Fri. and Sun. combined.

I'm going up friday and leaving sunday, so I'll be camping on the grounds (since it WILL be dry this year. :wink: ). Camped last year, was cold and wet.

riseosiris
03-08-2004, 11:58 PM
Definitely come if you can make it for Sat. afternoon. I'd say between 11am-2pm is when there are the most people there, and there are more cars on Sat. than on Fri. and Sun. combined.

I'm going up friday and leaving sunday, so I'll be camping on the grounds (since it WILL be dry this year. :wink: ). Camped last year, was cold and wet.

Allrighty, so are we doing a TBricks campsite, or is it a "fend for your own dry spot and raid Mike's tent in the middle of the night with watering pitchers to make sure it is most certainly not dry this year" type thing?
Seriously though, I think I may come up Fri and leave Sat evening....campfires at the camp site? Drinking at the campsite? S'mores?

:x:
-Lloyd

towerymt
03-09-2004, 01:01 AM
Campers were few and far between last year, so there should be more than enough room.

I can't remember if there were camp fires last year, but I think there may have been. Maybe not.

There was heavy drinking, of course. AFAIK, you can walk the show field with a beer in hand.

There's one gate open 24hr. There is a permanent structure with bathrooms and showers. At the camp site, there were a few portable toilets a short walk away (closer than the building).

hayzcustoms
03-09-2004, 08:23 PM
for those of you not so found of camping, or betting that the weather is going to be far from spectacular what hotel are you staying at? i am booking my reservations and i just wanted to know what hotels you were staying at.

thanks
nick

jay244ti
03-09-2004, 08:39 PM
So do we have to sign up (register) to spectate? If so, thats were the Tbricks tent thing comes in right? :???:

towerymt
03-09-2004, 09:36 PM
If you just want to show up and check out the cars, it's $6 (Fri.), $7 (Sat.), or $5 (Sun.). If you park on the grounds (not on the show field), it's another $5 per day.

Or you can register in advance, pay $15, and get in all 3 days with your car on the showfield.


www.carsatcarlisle.com

Chino
03-10-2004, 01:50 PM
how many do you have registered so far. that's a nice short commute from philly. i'm basically stock right now though.

riseosiris
03-10-2004, 02:00 PM
Mike, are you registering to put on the show field? Is this something we all can do, regardless of how "showy" our cars are? It might be nice to have a fleet of bricks to piss off the Saab owners :x:
-Lloyd

towerymt
03-10-2004, 08:12 PM
Yes, sign up for the show field. It's not a judged show, so you really don't need a "show car" at all. Last year most of us had mud on our cars at some point because of the wet weather and cold. I think I cleaned mine up a little for Sat., and I usually wash it a day or two before I go so there's not much to do once I'm at the show.

volvo944ti
03-14-2004, 07:07 PM
hmm asa this gets closer i will cpmmit then gonna try to make it tho. and my car isn't anything to stare at. scratched paint and so forth but hell i'd put it in the tent if they let slobs in there.

Zee
03-15-2004, 01:48 AM
hmm asa this gets closer i will cpmmit then gonna try to make it tho. and my car isn't anything to stare at. scratched paint and so forth but hell i'd put it in the tent if they let slobs in there.

Don't let your car's "beater" status discourage you from parking on the showfield. It is not a contest at all. It is just the show's way of organizing like-minded enthusiast's in one spot so they can enjoy talking about the marque they like.

Chino
03-15-2004, 09:00 AM
count me in then, and I will see if i can get a few others to show up also. do we need to register on here or with carisle fairgrounds? let me know so I can pass the information on...

thanks

volvo944ti
03-16-2004, 12:23 AM
[quote:c15ccad870="volvo944ti"]hmm asa this gets closer i will cpmmit then gonna try to make it tho. and my car isn't anything to stare at. scratched paint and so forth but hell i'd put it in the tent if they let slobs in there.

Don't let your car's "beater" status discourage you from parking on the showfield. It is not a contest at all. It is just the show's way of organizing like-minded enthusiast's in one spot so they can enjoy talking about the marque they like.[/quote:c15ccad870]


well 15 bucks isn't gonna break me so i might as well just sign up in the next week or so and plan on going unless something drastic happens.

ICE RCKT
03-24-2004, 04:39 AM
Is there any other Canadian interest? I'm game for the drive, I go a little further than that for the auto show in detroit every year... Might have a tricked out Corrado along for the drive.

towerymt
03-24-2004, 01:45 PM
Is there any other Canadian interest? I'm game for the drive, I go a little further than that for the auto show in detroit every year... Might have a tricked out Corrado along for the drive.

I usually see a few Ontario license plates every year, and there's one guy who has come down from Ottawa for the past 3 years at least. He drives a 850T-5R and went by "1fastbox" at Swedespeed, not sure if he posts much or not.

ICE RCKT
03-25-2004, 03:01 PM
[quote:910d31ad6d="ICE RCKT"]Is there any other Canadian interest? I'm game for the drive, I go a little further than that for the auto show in detroit every year... Might have a tricked out Corrado along for the drive.

I usually see a few Ontario license plates every year, and there's one guy who has come down from Ottawa for the past 3 years at least. He drives a 850T-5R and went by "1fastbox" at Swedespeed, not sure if he posts much or not.[/quote:910d31ad6d]

Yeah, that's Sean Getty's car. He's a local Master Tech that really has the bug. His car is featured at Eurosporttuning.com. First one, bottom of the page ;) . last year he ran a 14-flat on street tires with his cooler in the trunk...

Ajax5678
04-12-2004, 10:28 PM
I could think About it but when would you be going down Ice?

ptouch20
04-29-2004, 09:59 PM
so we gonna have a designated turbobricks area?? that'd be cool.

PFunk242
05-01-2004, 04:23 PM
So what is the word going on with the show is there going to be a turbobricks camp area?? I really want to go. But if i do it will most likely be in my gf's 2003 VW GLI. I doubt the volvo will be ready to drive yet then. If any one has a 007 amm or a drivers headlight that they want to donate to me cheap it will help me car get there. Oh if we do bring the GLI does anyone object to parking it with all of u since it is cheeper to park the car on the feild than to pay to get in.

towerymt
05-01-2004, 07:12 PM
So what is the word going on with the show is there going to be a turbobricks camp area?? I really want to go. But if i do it will most likely be in my gf's 2003 VW GLI. I doubt the volvo will be ready to drive yet then. If any one has a 007 amm or a drivers headlight that they want to donate to me cheap it will help me car get there. Oh if we do bring the GLI does anyone object to parking it with all of u since it is cheeper to park the car on the feild than to pay to get in.

You can still be on the show field, but there will probably be a parking area for VW's. Usually a few show up. You could park with the Volvos, but it might look odd. I know we all thought it was odd when a guy parked his old american sedan with the volvos cause he had one that couldn't make it to the show.

n xntrx volvo
05-01-2004, 08:17 PM
would you guys do me favor, if you see any cool fiero stuff, could you take a pic, please. info on mines below.

chuck7703
05-02-2004, 02:21 PM
I will proably leave early saturday and stay over sunday my daily driver is the only one drivable and that is barley good enough to park in the parking lot so i wolnt be showing it but my oplanis to have my project done to show at this show in 2010. so are the tbricks guys camping in the same area or what I realy am looking foward to seeing cars that are done so it gives me something to strive for. also any one leaving from the south jersey area and would be willing to let me ride along or even follow you it would be great. I dont do directions well thanks alot in advance. PM or IM me if you would let me follow you thanks alot.

One more question if we are not showing do we registaer and how much does it cost to camp thanks again
chuck

hayzcustoms
05-03-2004, 02:03 PM
well i am all registered and since my dad is going the hotel is booked. unfortunately the motor i am rebuilding has run into a deck height problem so i will be driving down with the same old motor. 460000 miles so what is a thousand or so more. hope to see you all there and especial would be nice to see the sun this year.

Ajax5678
05-03-2004, 11:02 PM
I just read through the entire thread and can't find anything as to where the fook this place is?? I'm not all that common with US geography so If someone could fill me in that would be great.




(IE, State, city, address...........)

and I searched their site am I missing something:???:

hayzcustoms
05-03-2004, 11:12 PM
the show is located in Carlisle PA. if you go to the website and click on directions that will give you a better idea of exactly where that is. the website is www.carsatcarlisle.com.

hope that helps
nick

John S745
05-03-2004, 11:26 PM
It's in Pa off of rute 81 or 76 http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/ ,
I'll be there.

Ajax5678
05-04-2004, 10:01 PM
Hmm maybe :-( next year I'm spending to much monies Gotta restrict myself, But thanks for the directions ;-)

ptouch20
05-04-2004, 11:12 PM
pfunk, i have a 007 AMM if you need one...

hockey930
05-05-2004, 03:46 AM
I wana go
Eamonn

boostdemon
05-07-2004, 09:26 PM
we need to get a section set aside for camping... can we do that? all get something together?

ptouch20
05-08-2004, 01:05 AM
camping, eh? i'll be up from friday night to saturday around 3, have to dj sat nite...

John S745
05-18-2004, 09:49 PM
is there any body who needs a ride or once to meet and cruise up there from berks county?

ptouch20
05-19-2004, 05:37 PM
I'll be coming from Allentown...saturday mornin

John S745
05-20-2004, 12:23 AM
hey ptouch if you wana meat up that would be cool! I am coming from reading and you wana meet up where 222 meets up with 76 in adamstown on saturday moring?

towerymt
05-20-2004, 01:34 AM
Anyone going on Friday? I'll be there mid afternoon Friday, I hope.

pwschuh
05-20-2004, 09:52 PM
Anyone going on Friday? I'll be there mid afternoon Friday, I hope.

Michael, I'll be up there Friday fairly early with the V90.

hockey930
05-21-2004, 01:14 AM
I think I am rollin up with Pete on saterday
Eamonn

ptouch20
05-23-2004, 02:13 PM
couldn't make it...woke up at 11 saturday...a little tired/hungover. Had to dj at three anyhoo... Hope to see some pics.
later.

towerymt
05-23-2004, 09:52 PM
I'll be on the auto-x course most of the time. :x:

Did you make it back for the autoX sunday? I didn't see your car around the showfield, so I'm assuming you drove one of the earlier sessions if you did at all. I did the 1:30pm group, and turned 77.2 and I think 76.8 on my two 3-lap runs.

Where was your braking spot into turn 1? I was standing on the pedal when I hit the crest, and I was told at least one rear wheel was locking up. That was a lot of fun, because it's not often I get to go that fast in a straight line towards a corner on an autocross course and use the brakes like that.

John S745
05-23-2004, 10:44 PM
Good job Michael! hopeful next time my car won't be running so lean so I can enter it in the event. And man my head head was ringing by the time I got home from driveing on the turnpike with an open down pipe. haha. Well it was fun, also it was good to see all the volvos there.

Zee
05-24-2004, 05:36 AM
Did you make it back for the autoX sunday?

No. I went, instead, to my club auto-x event at Giant's Stadium in New Jersey. Large course, eight runs and good bunch of folks (NASA = National Auto Sports Association/Northeast Division). Turned in a 40.7 in the afternoon session which was a full 1.3 seconds faster than me best morning runs. Beat out a couple of Neons, and the like.

Car failed tech. Drove 1.5 hours to the event only to have the tech guy tell me my alternator belt was hanging off the car! Broken adjuster bolt. So I robbed the one from the non-working AC compressor below. Fitted it, tightened the 13mm x 3" bolt/nut and THAT bolt snapped! Now, I am wondering if I'll even get HOME, let along onto the course. Robbed another 13mm nut from the back alternator and used two nuts on the broken locking bolt (now, just a threaded rod) to finally secure the alt with enough belt tension, held only by the lockiing (not any adjusting) bolt.

I just did a transmission R&R this week trying to fix oil, transmission and diffy leaks. That complex major work hold, but both bolts for the alternator snap?

Gimmie a break!

I didn't see your car around the showfield, so I'm assuming you drove one of the earlier sessions if you did at all.

Last year I did the Sunday Auto-x, which is when/how I got the bug for this. This time I opted for the Saturday driver's school to pick up on some lacking education. The instructor worked on getting me to make wide, looping bends on those twp hairpin turns at each end of the course. I kept wanting to dive too early into the first, inside cone, which put me too far to the outside by the exit of the turns. Once I got it right, the car was turned correctly for the straights.


I did the 1:30pm group, and turned 77.2 and I think 76.8 on my two 3-lap runs.

Yeah, you showed improvement. Always a good feeling to leave on a positive note. How did you like the lapping-style of their event vs. the once-through auto-x usually found? More like racing, what? I found you get to work on some technique when you have several passes at it.

Where was your braking spot into turn 1?

Ha-Ha-Ha. This is one thing the instructor was trying to get me to back off from! ON the first few laps he told me I kept going deeper into the zone. Once I got too deep ( and wide around the turn...Did you see the rut in the grass at the left side of the exit?), the he began telling me to get on the brakes sooner.

He wanted me to start braking at the first cone. I wanted the third. We settled at the second cone. At the far end, it was the third cone, because I carried more speed into the uphill bend.

I was standing on the pedal when I hit the crest, and I was told at least one rear wheel was locking up.

(Geez! My turbo is just kicking in...)

That was a lot of fun, because it's not often I get to go that fast in a straight line towards a corner on an autocross course and use the brakes like that.

Good point about the striaghts being long enought to let it out.

Glad you got involved.

In the classroom driver's meeting, they taught about turn entry, apex, and exit on this course. It was all very helpful Sunday on a wide-open course at Giant's Stadium.

hockey930
05-24-2004, 09:49 AM
I blame Pete.....although it wasn't realy his fault in any way.
Eamonn

volvo_420
05-24-2004, 11:16 AM
Count me in roughly how long is that drive from NJ... last time i went with my boys we couldn't find place to sleep in PA we ended up in OHIO ... let me know ... details...

towerymt
05-24-2004, 09:09 PM
Last year I did the Sunday Auto-x, which is when/how I got the bug for this. This time I opted for the Saturday driver's school to pick up on some lacking education. The instructor worked on getting me to make wide, looping bends on those twp hairpin turns at each end of the course. I kept wanting to dive too early into the first, inside cone, which put me too far to the outside by the exit of the turns. Once I got it right, the car was turned correctly for the straights.

I think I was turning in too early as well. I was pushing the braking point pretty hard, so I was more concerned with getting slowed down enough to make the turn under control w/o squealing the tires.

How did you like the lapping-style of their event vs. the once-through auto-x usually found? More like racing, what? I found you get to work on some technique when you have several passes at it.

I really liked the format. The practice laps were a huge help, because I was able to attack right from the start on my first 3-lap session. I felt like I was trying to work on the chicanes more than the hairpins. By the 2nd session, I felt like I was going about as fast as I could through the chicane on the back stretch, sliding the car a little on the left turn, then taking it out to the edge near the cones before slowing for the hairpin. I wasn't trying to get too close to the cones, though, so I might have left some time on the course.



Ha-Ha-Ha. This is one thing the instructor was trying to get me to back off from! ON the first few laps he told me I kept going deeper into the zone. Once I got too deep ( and wide around the turn...Did you see the rut in the grass at the left side of the exit?), the he began telling me to get on the brakes sooner.

He wanted me to start braking at the first cone. I wanted the third. We settled at the second cone. At the far end, it was the third cone, because I carried more speed into the uphill bend.

Where were the cones in relation to the ridge where the track started going downhill? I think I was lifting/braking when I got to the ridge. Only a couple of times I had to stay on the brakes after turning in. Usually I was able to let off, turn in, and get on the gas, sometimes too early leading to wheel spin coming out onto the straight. I REALLY could have used a LSD. One time I almost hit the cone coming out of the hairpin. I could have improved my line on that corner.