freaking insane sounding 850 (10.10 @ 244kmh) [Archive]

Hank Scorpio

08-30-2007, 01:07 PM

smosit

08-30-2007, 01:26 PM

the smoke in the cockpit cracked me up. i guess that's why he's opening and closing the door in the second video? nice.

Dr Dokeh

08-30-2007, 01:29 PM

:omg:

Loads of cool pics and info on their website.

http://www.ttaracing.se/page_1186602253531.html

HX55! :oogle:

CAPT_BLOTTO

08-30-2007, 01:30 PM

<img src="http://ttaracing.se/photo08082007094424/1186602984.jpg">

geez!

Hank Scorpio

08-30-2007, 01:31 PM

holy mother of god

Dr Dokeh

08-30-2007, 01:36 PM

I see mention of it using E85?

Plus ~789bhp and ~616lb/ft! damn!

tjts1

08-30-2007, 01:51 PM

My favorite part is the hubcaps.

http://www.ttaracing.se/photo08082007094424/1186602377.jpg

Mesoam

08-30-2007, 01:51 PM

wonder if he's running the diesel block...

also can't believe he's running stock IGN!?

Aoder1

08-30-2007, 02:11 PM

:cool: wow

Hank Scorpio

08-30-2007, 02:11 PM

wonder if he's running the diesel block...

also can't believe he's running stock IGN!?

I *think* I spotted an MSD 7al2 in a picture, behind the dash kind of behind the radio/ashtray.

edit:/ the gold thing \/ \/
http://www.ttaracing.se/photo08082007094424/1186603731.jpg

Hank Scorpio

08-30-2007, 02:14 PM

Trying to think of what he's winding that motor to to be doing 140mph in 3rd gear (gotta be like 8500rpm).

Mesoam

08-30-2007, 02:17 PM

I *think* I spotted an MSD 7al2 in a picture, behind the dash kind of behind the radio/ashtray.

I just mean instead of COP's...that car is mad gangsta

ugh, this car is completely distracting me from work...

edit: please tell me that seat isn't mounted to what i think it is...

Hank Scorpio

08-30-2007, 02:20 PM

I just mean instead of COP's...that car is mad gangsta

ugh, this car is completely distracting me from work...

edit: please tell me that seat isn't mounted to what i think it is...

a block of aluminum? :rofl: I noticed that too

I was surprized too. Must eat dizzy caps like mad (my 242 with the same MSD box would)

gdogg16

08-30-2007, 02:40 PM

I *think* I spotted an MSD 7al2 in a picture, behind the dash kind of behind the radio/ashtray.

edit:/ the gold thing \/ \/
http://www.ttaracing.se/photo08082007094424/1186603731.jpg
Where's the rest of the cage, eg. the right side.:rofl:

norcal505

08-30-2007, 02:51 PM

oh s***!!!
thats freakin sweaaat!!
that car should be on PINKS!!

Neil Peart

08-30-2007, 03:27 PM

Wow...

how much is spent?

SwedishBrick242...

08-30-2007, 03:54 PM

Jeezus thats ****ing awesome! I love how it sounds exactly the same inside and outside the car. (i.e. totally ****ing evil!)

I guess this just further proves what you have been saying all along Doug; these motors can take a LOT. I really wanna see you just go nuts on one. I am tempted to just let you loose on my other 242 when I get the money and get whatever you can out of it...

Crazychopstick

08-30-2007, 04:12 PM

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

I love this car, built for a purpose, cut the bling, go straight for the speed. From hubcaps to half built cages it's perfect.

impulse922

08-30-2007, 04:27 PM

Trying to think of what he's winding that motor to to be doing 140mph in 3rd gear (gotta be like 8500rpm).

what diff ratio is it? what do 850s normally do at the top of third gear?

volvo940tuner

08-30-2007, 05:04 PM

any more pics of this ride?

240_Richmond

08-30-2007, 05:09 PM

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

I love this car, built for a purpose, cut the bling, go straight for the speed. From hubcaps to half built cages it's perfect.

Haha, +1

norcal505

08-30-2007, 05:53 PM

lol
he should through on some slicks in teh front
:cool:

Hank Scorpio

08-30-2007, 05:54 PM

what diff ratio is it? what do 850s normally do at the top of third gear?

iirc 120.

1.1 3rd, 4:1 final drive, 225/40/18

Freeride it does have slicks on the front

BDKR

08-30-2007, 06:23 PM

http://ttaracing.se/photo08082007094424/1186602984.jpg

O.M.G. !!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!

norcal505

08-30-2007, 06:58 PM

oh yeah
nvrmind:-P
coudnt see it right through all tha tire smoke :-P

shaved240

08-30-2007, 08:12 PM

I wonder if thats a stock m56 or if it has beefed up internals

badvlvo

08-30-2007, 08:21 PM

That's ****ing awesome!

Hank Scorpio

08-30-2007, 08:33 PM

I wonder if thats a stock m56 or if it has beefed up internals

There really isn't beefed up internals for an m56. Put a diff in it and wrinkle walls and have at it.

shaved240

08-30-2007, 08:55 PM

wow thats a strong tranny then

socalsean

08-30-2007, 09:06 PM

wow thats a strong tranny then

Kinda sounds like he's granny shifting it.

socalsean

08-30-2007, 09:07 PM

delete

thelostartof

08-30-2007, 09:11 PM

Kinda sounds like he's granny shifting it.

sounds more like the car has a huge ass turbo on it that takes a while to spool back up after the shift

1 riktig svensk

08-30-2007, 09:24 PM

I was thinking the same thing.....pretty sick!!!!

Must've been a former hockey player !

http://www.ttaracing.se/photo08082007094424/1186603279.jpg

Trying to think of what he's winding that motor to to be doing 140mph in 3rd gear (gotta be like 8500rpm).

badvlvo

08-30-2007, 10:31 PM

Yep, MSD 7 box.

klr142

08-30-2007, 10:39 PM

FU************CK!!!

That's nuts. Sounds so, "wierd". I've never heard a white block that high up in the RPM range... I REALLY want to know what he's revving it to!!!

Bad. Ass. Like totally. And HUBCAPS?! LMAO! Sweeeeeet.

(sure, whiteblocks have capabilities, it just costs a lot to get them that capable... ;-))

Vercetti

08-30-2007, 10:46 PM

That makes me Morley my pants!!

Crazychopstick

08-30-2007, 10:59 PM

Awesome! Hockey puck motor mounts. I haven't seen that in ages.

The more ghetto fab on this car the more I like it.

marchul

08-31-2007, 12:17 AM

Thats pretty awesome.

Hank Scorpio

08-31-2007, 01:02 AM

SwedishBrick242...

08-31-2007, 01:11 AM

cheaper than a redblock. By alot.

I would suppose it would depend on what power point you are looking at. These levels, yeah, probably cheaper to go whiteblock. (but to make it at all trust-worthy, its going to be expensive no matter what you run) 12s-13s, you could probably get there for about the same in either engine.

Captain Bondo

08-31-2007, 01:16 AM

cheaper than a redblock. By alot.

Yup. A set of rods and you're way past what all but the most insane redblock will produce. Heck even without them. Volvo has already built a ton of them and they keep getting cheaper.

I'm kinda suprised I haven't seen more talk of T4 motors. The s40 motors are dirt cheap these days. Plus 4 rods and making a manifold for a 4 banger is about as hard as making a cup of coffee and a bowl of rice crispies at the same time.
All aluminum 16v 2.0 in a 140... Um... yeah... I think so...

That'd be a reliable 400hp for about 3 grand.

SwedishFish

08-31-2007, 01:50 AM

Doug, your car doesn't have to run 10s like that but a 12.84 would take the tbricks record....
450hp and traction should do it.. Don't be afraid of breaking it, that's how the dirty south does it and it still gets it done. Now go on and show us some nuts and show us what fwd can do.

badvlvo

08-31-2007, 02:03 AM

klr142

08-31-2007, 02:51 AM

cheaper than a redblock. By alot.
Don't whiteblocks have issues at higher power levels with their blocks? I guess adding concrete to it wouldn't be expensive, but sleeving it? Or whatever they do?

If you just add rods to a 5cyl whiteblock, you can make about how much power before something else breaks? Ok, 4 cyl redblock, add rods, and then you can make the same amount of power pretty much, bottom end wise, no? Or are you saying the cost for redblocks comes when you factor in the part where an 8v head doesn't flow nearly as well as a whiteblock's head does?

Mesoam

08-31-2007, 08:13 AM

Kinda sounds like he's granny shifting it.

did you not see that exhaust housing :rofl:

mike is def spot on that thing is spooling slowww, but its also helping w/ traction big time

that was one thing i was wondering about if he went to a smaller hot side and that thing spooled quicker would be be breaking into 9's or just loosing traction...

the problems w/ blocks in the Whites happen arround 700hp apparently, for some reason i don't see that being an issue here for a while...

McLovin

08-31-2007, 09:45 AM

Those aren't hubcaps I think. They're andromeda's.

Hank Scorpio

08-31-2007, 10:18 AM

Don't whiteblocks have issues at higher power levels with their blocks? I guess adding concrete to it wouldn't be expensive, but sleeving it? Or whatever they do?

If you just add rods to a 5cyl whiteblock, you can make about how much power before something else breaks? Ok, 4 cyl redblock, add rods, and then you can make the same amount of power pretty much, bottom end wise, no? Or are you saying the cost for redblocks comes when you factor in the part where an 8v head doesn't flow nearly as well as a whiteblock's head does?

You can make a T5 go to 700hp 100x easier than any redblock. You buy a B230FT and have it make 400whp @ 18psi with factory cams, head, exhaust manifold, intake, throttle body and pistons and it'll be a different story.

Whiteblocks > Red.

Hank Scorpio

08-31-2007, 10:21 AM

I would suppose it would depend on what power point you are looking at. These levels, yeah, probably cheaper to go whiteblock. (but to make it at all trust-worthy, its going to be expensive no matter what you run) 12s-13s, you could probably get there for about the same in either engine.

Still easier in a white and more reliable. No 16v stuff to make, no headers required ect. You still need a transmission behind either motor so thats a moot point as well as a decent diff.

Yup. A set of rods and you're way past what all but the most insane redblock will produce. Heck even without them. Volvo has already built a ton of them and they keep getting cheaper.

I'm kinda suprised I haven't seen more talk of T4 motors. The s40 motors are dirt cheap these days. Plus 4 rods and making a manifold for a 4 banger is about as hard as making a cup of coffee and a bowl of rice crispies at the same time.
All aluminum 16v 2.0 in a 140... Um... yeah... I think so...

That'd be a reliable 400hp for about 3 grand.

I've been talking about them for about 4 years now. There are probably more 400whp S40's rolling around europe than 850's. I've posted videos of Atech s40's going to 9500 rpm too :oogle: Thats whats going in the 1800 for sure. Actually.. Im building one for a customer towards end of the year :-D

Doug, your car doesn't have to run 10s like that but a 12.84 would take the tbricks record....
450hp and traction should do it.. Don't be afraid of breaking it, that's how the dirty south does it and it still gets it done. Now go on and show us some nuts and show us what fwd can do.

The show season's over, time to post the numbers.

When its not a 110* on a wed' night I'll be going ;-)

500dollar744ti

08-31-2007, 11:17 AM

you know it has gotta be good if 400+whp Doug is impressed :lol:

klr142

08-31-2007, 11:27 AM

You can make a T5 go to 700hp 100x easier than any redblock. You buy a B230FT and have it make 400whp @ 18psi with factory cams, head, exhaust manifold, intake, throttle body and pistons and it'll be a different story.

Whiteblocks > Red.
Well then... F building a redblock! Except for a nice NA B20 for my eventual DD 145...

But wait... An S40 motor would be cheaper, and twice as fast. Hmmm. Damnit, I like NA power sometimes.

Doug, you're just trying to make me have a bunch of Volvos when I grow up, of all sorts of builds... :-P

Can the S60R exhaust manifold flow for 400whp? I guess it isn't THAT much more than what it's already being asked to flow. And the guy on here with the black, super sweet S60R destroyed his bottom end around 400 something whp, didn't he? I suppose that was due to a bad tune?

Hank Scorpio

08-31-2007, 11:48 AM

Well then... F building a redblock! Except for a nice NA B20 for my eventual DD 145...

But wait... An S40 motor would be cheaper, and twice as fast. Hmmm. Damnit, I like NA power sometimes.

Doug, you're just trying to make me have a bunch of Volvos when I grow up, of all sorts of builds... :-P

Can the S60R exhaust manifold flow for 400whp? I guess it isn't THAT much more than what it's already being asked to flow. And the guy on here with the black, super sweet S60R destroyed his bottom end around 400 something whp, didn't he? I suppose that was due to a bad tune?

Sorta, the 2.5L S60R blocks are actually weaker in the walls (imo) than the older 2.3L T5 blocks. Honestly, If I was going to push past 650whp I'd use the D5 block.

The S60R manifold is fine if you port it out for 500whp.

klr142

08-31-2007, 11:50 AM

Ahhh, yes, good point.

gdogg16

08-31-2007, 11:53 AM

Sorta, the 2.5L S60R blocks are actually weaker in the walls (imo) than the older 2.3L T5 blocks. Honestly, If I was going to push past 650whp I'd use the D5 block.

The S60R manifold is fine if you port it out for 500whp.
http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/uploads/1168898605/gallery_16819_112_119028.jpg

Hank Scorpio

08-31-2007, 11:55 AM

yep. The 2.5's = t3h suckie.

Vercetti

08-31-2007, 02:07 PM

Sleeper.

Crazychopstick

08-31-2007, 02:27 PM

Those aren't hubcaps I think. They're andromeda's.

No lugnuts = hubcaps.

Also, someone was saying that trap speed was a low 9 or high 8 second 1/4. Anyone care to elaborate what that means?

norcal505

08-31-2007, 02:34 PM

Those aren't hubcaps I think. They're andromeda's.

for some reason, ive always loved those euro spec volvo hubcaps--also the 16" hubcaps on XC70s and etc..

i was thinking about running those on my old xc and selling the tellus's

Hank Scorpio

08-31-2007, 03:20 PM

No lugnuts = hubcaps.

Also, someone was saying that trap speed was a low 9 or high 8 second 1/4. Anyone care to elaborate what that means?

That means its still spinning the tires pretty good off the line. ;-)

norcal505

08-31-2007, 03:23 PM

That means its still spinning the tires pretty good off the line. ;-)

fixed.
made a mistake

Crazychopstick

08-31-2007, 07:42 PM

That means its still spinning the tires pretty good off the line. ;-)

Does that mean it's time to air down the MTs?

Hank Scorpio

08-31-2007, 08:21 PM

Does that mean it's time to air down the MTs?

Probably means its time to cut the fenders and double the width on the MT's ;-)

Crazychopstick

08-31-2007, 08:24 PM

Probably means its time to cut the fenders and double the width on the MT's ;-)

They already look pretty flared out. Or is that normal?

impulse922

08-31-2007, 09:50 PM

damnit, i want a fwd.

Hank Scorpio

09-01-2007, 02:08 AM

They already look pretty flared out. Or is that normal?

Looked pretty normal to me.

Hagar17

09-01-2007, 11:53 AM

Needs an exhaust fan in the roof - LOL

maybe like a range hood or something!

Oh and a hella loud sound system to drown out that engine! :-P

EricF

09-01-2007, 12:10 PM

what diff ratio is it? what do 850s normally do at the top of third gear?

With 7250 rev-limit I could go to 105-106 or so...

With stock rev-limit and stock sized tires on Titans I was shifting into 4th in the 1/4 mile when I had the 19T.

I would guess 9000+ on this engine.. Possibly also M56L with a lower final drive than 4:1?

Crazychopstick

09-01-2007, 02:18 PM

Looked pretty normal to me.

In this picture it looks as if the fenders were popped loose or something. Maybe intentionally?

http://www.ttaracing.se/photo08082007094424/1188076124.jpg

foggyjames

09-01-2007, 07:15 PM

Kinda sounds like he's granny shifting it.
Seems to me that 700+bhp and granny shifting is faster than 250bhp and shifting like a real man...y'know...the sort of guy who can break an M46 just by looking at it :rofl:

Re: Gearing...check the diameter of those wheels too...they're huge vs stock!

Whiteblock totally > redblock. I've been thinking it for a while, in fact, and bugging the UK guys on the subject.

I'm putting a 'daily-driver' spec redblock (97 B230FK, 18T/19T or posssssibly a GT28xx) in the 360 simply because I want to build a 'period' piece, but if you want more power than an I5 whiteblock can safely make on stock internals (350 crank?), it's a damn sight cheaper for the average enthusiast to fit a built T5 to a RWD brick than it is to get a redblock to make that kinda power.

300-350 on a redblock isn't too hard (i.e. easier and cheaper than swapping a whiteblock), but the number of cars on this board making more kinda illustrates that the next step up is tricky. Given the MPG gains, I'd go whiteblock at this point, unless I specifically wanted a redblock for some reason.

cheers

James