Triple checking...Going with Blaster 2

[volvoluvin]

I've read all the posts I can possibly digest with regards to the Blaster 2, and I'm 90% positive that I *DON'T* need the ballast if I'm running MS...
I'm not going with the CDI box yet...(MSD 6A)...that will happen later...
But I'm just triple checking that I've read everything correctly...

Ya ya?

-Phil

[MrBill]

no ballast is required

[volvoluvin]

no ballast is required

Kisses...

[MrBill]

Kisses...

Just wondering, why not go w/MSD now too? Just a money thing, or doing it in stages?

Cause its easy+++

[volvoluvin]

Just wondering, why not go w/MSD now too? Just a money thing, or doing it in stages?

Cause its easy+++

I guess it was a stages thing...no REAL reason other than need...How easy is it? Where does one install it...etc...I would love to do it, but I"m just a bit nervous about it...Do you have pics of your install?

[MrBill]

I guess it was a stages thing...no REAL reason other than need...How easy is it? Where does one install it...etc...I would love to do it, but I"m just a bit nervous about it...Do you have pics of your install?

Nothing I do should be pictured, theres about 20 people that can vouch for that :lol:

You can put it in the engine bay, but I put it (after a failure in the rain) on the passenger-side firewall, cabin-side.

You need.... The battery wire, an ignition wire, a ground, The + and - for the coil, a trigger wire (how does your MS trigger the coil now, 139 module?) and the tach wire, it took me about an hour or two to get it all done, started up first time, but I dont have to play with the ignition modules or anything, I have direct coil control, should be easy though...

there is a "how-to" in the megamanual that shows what settings you need.

[volvoluvin]

Thanks, I'm starting to feel more brave with my MS, althought I feel like I know 2% of what I need to know...wiring etc...doesn't really scare me, so I'm game for tackling anything...
Not sure how MS is triggering the coil...I'll have to ask the gent who installed it for me...maybe John knows...(CALLING THE ASPIRATOR!!!)
I'll dig into the manual tonight...even if I pick it up, I can wait to do it...I think your right though, I probably should do this...thanks for the push, I'll let you know how it goes...

And don't stress about pretty...I got that covered....;)

Nothing I do should be pictured, theres about 20 people that can vouch for that :lol:

You can put it in the engine bay, but I put it (after a failure in the rain) on the passenger-side firewall, cabin-side.

You need.... The battery wire, an ignition wire, a ground, The + and - for the coil, a trigger wire (how does your MS trigger the coil now, 139 module?) and the tach wire, it took me about an hour or two to get it all done, started up first time, but I dont have to play with the ignition modules or anything, I have direct coil control, should be easy though...

there is a "how-to" in the megamanual that shows what settings you need.

[volvoluvin]

oh ya, and I want the 6200 yes?

[MrBill]

Referring to the odd fire or even fire BS?

Yeah even-fire. I bought the mallory hi-fire 6a, its digital (no need for rev limiter).

I pretty-much just saw it on a fellow-tbrickers car and said "i want that one!" Its cheaper, and just as good say the specs.

[benflynn]

i use a 124 mod to trigger blasterSS, i think i would go edis before i messed w/6a

[oxity]

If you decide to go EDIS know that you will probably need to modify your megasquirt board, get a edis tooth ring adapter, and make a sensor pickup bracket.

If youre planning on doing MSD then I'd say do it all at once if you can. Pull all of the stock stuff out for ignition and run all of the wires you need from the start. Less of a mess to figure out down the road.

[benflynn]

ms-edis uses hall input and normal output(ie..stock msns-v2.2), same as dizzy in and mod trigger, no mod to board, that is the cool thing about edis, will need a trigger wheel tho

[oxity]

Thanks for clarifying my post. I know with mine I would just need to rejumper a few pins on the V3 board. Nothing that a soldering iron and 5 mins cant sort out.

Not to get off topic but the cost of EDIS versus MSD and coil is close I would imagine. Since the only parts that can't be sourced from the junkyard for EDIS is the tooth wheel adapter and the bracket for the sensor.

[adrianpike]

EDIS > MSD if you don't care about not being able to cut spark.

[JohnMc]

I put a Blaster 2 onto my stock ignition (not sure of the Bosch number, but it's late model LH 2.4, PnP'ed with MSnS-e) and didn't really notice much improvement. Then eventually I got around to picking up an MSD 6a on eBay ($50) and then, only then, did I see a big improvement. I suspect I could stick the stock coil back on and still keep much of the improvement. It was a really noticeable improvement in how smoothly it ran at idle and how well it pulled down low.

[blkaplan]

EDIS > MSD if you don't care about not being able to cut spark.

no launch control with edis?

[Wagner]

no launch control with edis?

That might be true as well, but the most annoying thing is that you can't have a spark based rev limiter with EDIS, because the EDIS is kind of a stand alone system, mega just controls it. If you cut the control signal going to EDIS it will keep on rockin' anyway, but it will go into a limp-mode with a fixed 10 degree spark advance.

[benflynn]

wagner, i never knew that was why. could do wasted w/launce tho, just need the vr circut and 2vb's

[MrBill]

With all the easy mods to megasquirt, why use EDIS? It is slightly easier, but its limitations are really unattractive to me.

[adrianpike]

Because:
-It's easy to set up.
-It's disgustingly robust, and craps out a huge heart-stopper of a jolt.
-It's cheap as poo.

Bill - What limitations, other than you can't drop spark completely? I've got mine pulling to 10* ATDC for a limit and it sure as hell makes some noise and lays the hooptie on it's face. No idea of the fireball action, but people certainly don't tailgate me after I play with it a bit.

[Wagner]

With all the easy mods to megasquirt, why use EDIS? It is slightly easier, but its limitations are really unattractive to me.

Like said before, EDIS does seem to be very reliable and effective. I think it's certainly worth considering as an upgrade to stock system.

I've got mine pulling to 10* ATDC

This is an honest question, i'm not trying to contradict anything: Are you using way over-retarded point of ignition as rev limiter (By ATDC you do mean after top dead center, right) ? If so, have you had any problems with exhaust valves?

[adrianpike]

This is an honest question, i'm not trying to contradict anything: Are you using way over-retarded point of ignition as rev limiter (By ATDC you do mean after top dead center, right) ? If so, have you had any problems with exhaust valves?

Yes, I am. I haven't had any exhaust valve problems, but then I don't hang it off the limiter for more than a few seconds. Also, it's N/A, which probably helps.