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Pennybridge Pioneer
02-03-2008, 09:37 PM
Ok so I'm having wheel problems.

All I ask for are some nice, strong, light 17x8 wheels that look nice.

Unfortunately, nobody makes these in 5x108.

Options:
team dynamics pro race 1.2 in 17x8 et40 with bne spacers/extended studs

Oz superturismo in 17x7.5 et 40 with bne spacers/extended studs

Wild Card:
change the bolt pattern. there's adapters, there's redrilling the hubs, there's redrilling the wheels.

I can get all kinds of sexy awesome wheels in 5x114 for stupid cheap.

the poi is adamantly opposed to adapters, he says they'll catastrophically fail and my car will tumble into a preschool playground and explode.

I can get these sweet ass rims in 17x8 front and 17x9 rear et 35 that weigh 21/23lbs respectively. they're perfect, and they'd need spacers anyway, so adapters would fit the bill.

oh wise tbricks hivemind, what do I do?

thelostartof
02-03-2008, 09:48 PM
adapters

ignore the little elf

SwedishBrick242...
02-03-2008, 10:20 PM
If you want adapters, go with that. Its not like you will be racing the car, right?

I don't think they are recommended for a track car, but for a daily driver street beast it should be fine

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-03-2008, 10:24 PM
just spirited street driving. If I go drag racing I'll get some wide steelies with special tires, but that's a year away at least.

DaytonAE86
02-03-2008, 10:36 PM
just spirited street driving. If I go drag racing I'll get some wide steelies with special tires, but that's a year away at least.

Then adapters are fine, just remember that adapters can fail, they probably won't under normal circumstances.

Staggered wheels are the **** anyways... so go with that 17x8 17x9 combo.

FWIW, I would run adapters on the street, if I really cared about wheels that looked super awesome, and Dayton has some ****TY ****TY ****TY roads, no failures from the dub crowd, and they use them often to run Porsche wheels and all sorts of other things that should never fit (and usually don't fit well anyways... "poke":roll:).

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-03-2008, 10:43 PM
another question about centerbore. Should I be concerned? the wheels I'm looking at are to fit a 350z 5x114, but I can't find measurements for the centerbore. Problem?

lbaranyk
02-03-2008, 10:54 PM
year and model por favor? I'll try to do some research for ya.

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-03-2008, 11:22 PM
nissan 350z wheels have a 66.1mm centerbore apparently. the 240 is, what, 65? That should work, right?

rancidponymilk
02-03-2008, 11:38 PM
work emotion cr kai
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/wheels/BRANDfolder/images/crkai_01.gif

Also, I thought that team dynamics make the 1.2 in low offsets. I found this chart on a site for the 1.2 wheel.
http://www.autornd.com/catalog/images/Tables/PRORACE12.JPG

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-03-2008, 11:50 PM
I don't think I can deal with the long wait of getting custom drilled wheels, nor would I even know where to order them

Bishop
02-03-2008, 11:57 PM
Just about all OZ wheels give me a semi, it's a shame they, and most other companies don't sell blanks anymore.

Volvorules
02-04-2008, 12:08 AM
Do you know how many people, on this board and in the world, have driven on adapters/spacers? And how many failures have you heard of? I've done multiple autocross and drift events, and never had a single issue, EVER. I bought quality adapters and wouldn't worry a bit about them. Just get some adapters to 5X114.3 and have at it.

DaytonAE86
02-04-2008, 12:09 AM
You'll order your adapters to fit the Volvo, but the other end should be 5x114 w/ a 66.1mm centerbore (or get a smaller centerbore and have spacer rings machined so you can run plenty of wheels).

Its all really simple, its an ADAPTER... goes from Volvo to Nissan......

rancidponymilk
02-04-2008, 12:11 AM
You'll order your adapters to fit the Volvo, but the other end should be 5x114 w/ a 66.1mm centerbore (or get a smaller centerbore and have spacer rings machined so you can run plenty of wheels).

Its all really simple, its an ADAPTER... goes from Volvo to Nissan......

I have a set, your wheels options are almost limitless.

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 12:12 AM
I PM'd dale, hopefully he's got a set lying around in a dusty box somewhere....

SwedishBrick242...
02-04-2008, 12:12 AM
I have a set, your wheels options are almost limitless.

No joke. You should have seen the list I had to look through for my RX7. 5x114.3 with a 40mm offset. :)

impulse922
02-04-2008, 12:15 AM
team dynamics

Krunk Fu
02-04-2008, 12:20 AM
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/wheels/BRANDfolder/images/crkai_01.gif
those wheels are f'n awesome.How much would a set of 4 cost?

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 12:22 AM
these are the dealies I'm looking at. Anyone know anything about the brand? WedsSport?

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=WEDS_SA90

rancidponymilk
02-04-2008, 12:37 AM
these are the dealies I'm looking at. Anyone know anything about the brand? WedsSport?

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=WEDS_SA90

weds sport makes quality stuff, same with work, volk racing, ssr, ect.

Baron Fel
02-04-2008, 01:26 AM
weds sport does make quality stuff but you could get some MB weapons for much cheaper
http://www.wheelsbymbmotoring.com/images/med_Weapon.jpg


18x9's run $170 a pop at discount
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findWheelDetail.do?pc=53660&wd=18&bp=5-114.3&rw=9


I've also had quite a few track miles on my spacers and have never had any problems. As long as you get hub and wheel centric you should be A-OK

badvlvo
02-04-2008, 01:40 AM
Just cough up the cash and SO some that fit the stock pattern and backspace.

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 02:05 AM
Just cough up the cash and SO some that fit the stock pattern and backspace.
I wish it were as simple as coughing. I'm on a fixed income so I can't just work more or even save, I have all the money I have until June. I really like these nissan wheels, I don't have to wait 8 months and end up with wheels I can't sell to anyone but broke tbrickers

I'm waiting to hear from dale about the adapters and then I'm going to get my rimp on. I think...

Edit// bonus question: will 255/40/17 fit in the back ofthe wagon? I'm fairly certain the poi can savage the inner fender handily, will the inner well be a problem? (shock bolt?)

GrandmaSideways
02-04-2008, 02:18 AM
Do you know how many people, on this board and in the world, have driven on adapters/spacers? And how many failures have you heard of? I've done multiple autocross and drift events, and never had a single issue, EVER. I bought quality adapters and wouldn't worry a bit about them. Just get some adapters to 5X114.3 and have at it.

Exactly, I'm not worried about mine. Mine were a set of Dale's, came anodized, and are extremely well built. In fact Matt Dupuis had an EXTREMELY tight setup on his car, with those spacers, billy hd's, and crown victoria rear springs on the front. Dale said it's the best car he'd EVER driven, and it was so taut that it was undriveable day to day. Who wants to bet that car wasn't driven hard?

When you see how well they're built, in person, and actually hold them, you'll be convinced. The tire guys weren't worried.

Just spend the money, you don't want to skimp on something between a car moving 100mph and the ground...

GrandmaSideways
02-04-2008, 02:19 AM
FWIW, the reason I got adapters instead of new studs was that I can swap them between cars.
Dale doesn't do it anymore due to the strong dollar killing his profits, but BNE makes them.

GrandmaSideways
02-04-2008, 02:20 AM
And yeah, about 225/45/17 is as wide as I would go with my setup (wheels are 49mm offset, 32mm spacers) - though you could likely stuff 235 or 245 series....
Nothing is ever impossible.

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 02:28 AM
I wanted to go 9" in the rear, just for ****s and giggles. the wheels are 35mm offset, and I assume the adapters are going to be 32mm, so effectively they'll have 3mm offset (which is what rob is running in front, 17x8 et3).

perhaps I should just do 17x8 all around? I mean, if it's just a matter of a weekend and some beating to fit wider tires in teh back, and it can be done without having to get the car repainted, I'm down. Any ideas anyone?

Lord Tentacle
02-04-2008, 02:36 AM
there are also lots of nice cheap and big honda rims for 5x114 in the et20-55 offset range

I like my MB setup
the stupid big 14mm studs made the adapters seam all that more indestructible
the big advantage to the MB stuff is that there are stock rims in desirable 16x8, 16x10 17x11 sizes that run for cheap at dismantlers because people with those sorts of cars only upgrade into the 20's and bigger:lol:

GrandmaSideways
02-04-2008, 02:37 AM
I have 17x7.5 all around, running 215/45/17
I would go with 225 again.
That's with unrolled lips, all bone stock, not even inner lips rolled. there's definitely more room to move if you have that.
hell, I would even try 235/40/17 or something if I had access to a tire machine and some extra tires hanging around.
The only time I have a tiny rub is when my 260lb friend is over my right rear wheel over large bumps, and I think that shock may be a tad soft.
If you're running HD shocks or something, or even just newer ones, it shouldn't be an issue.
Just my $0.02 - I'm far from an expert, just pushing forward untested observations!
Get Dale and Matt Dupuis in here.

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 02:39 AM
well I'm running 350lb springs in the front and 275lb springs in the rear with koni yellows.... so :ninja:


edit// wait, grandma you said BNE makes the 5x114 adapters now?

GrandmaSideways
02-04-2008, 02:43 AM
Oh maybe BNE doesn't. I thought you weren't sure what offset you wanted.
I would contact dale, but FWIW I talked to the owner of wheeladapter.com and he seemed pretty good, a nice guy. I ended up buying from dale because he's in the volvo community, and also was in Canadia so I wouldn't have to pay duty to have them shipped to my snow fortress.

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 02:59 AM
well I just ordered the damn wheels :ninja:

the deal was way too good to pass up, I got them for like 50% off

17x8 et35 front
17x9 et35 rear

the poi is going to kill me :rofl:

Gentlemen, BEHOLD!
http://www.pbase.com/image/92519114.jpg

edit// I got all of them, plus a tire pressure monitoring system, shipped... for under $1k. I'm pretty hot right now.

Krunk Fu
02-04-2008, 03:01 AM
the deal was way too good to pass up, I got them for like 50% off
how much did u get them for? Id like to pick up a set of these as well. did u get them in bronze?

amargill19?
02-04-2008, 03:02 AM
do they come with that goofy writing along the rim?

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 03:02 AM
how much did u get them for? Id like to pick up a set of these as well. did u get them in bronze?

bronze, indeed ;-)

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 03:02 AM
do they come with that goofy writing along the rim?

god I hope so :lol:


edit// it's there in case I forget they're "sport racing wheels!"

amargill19?
02-04-2008, 03:03 AM
bronze, indeed ;-)

what happened to white rims and white bro-stylez body kit?

GrandmaSideways
02-04-2008, 03:04 AM
Now spacers time...

Krunk Fu
02-04-2008, 03:04 AM
How much$$?

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 03:05 AM
How much$$?

under a grand shipped :-P

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 03:05 AM
Now spacers time...

adapters, yes. now... who do I have to hunt like an animal to get me some....

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 03:06 AM
what happened to white rims and white bro-stylez body kit?

change of plans, now the giant penis vinyl is going to be a subdued bronze color

Krunk Fu
02-04-2008, 03:08 AM
change of plans, now the giant penis vinyl is going to be a subdued bronze color

lol

amargill19?
02-04-2008, 03:08 AM
Now hammer time...

http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/.%2F2006%2F01%20January%2F26%2Fpictures%2F10A%20(h ammer).jpg

http://jonescollegeprep.org/ourpages/auto/2006/1/31/1138729345621/mc-hammer.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2395/1578329554_a92301c81c_o.png

http://www.grannygear.com/Assets/Images/Races/Bigbear/2005/THE_BIKE_STOP_____Hammer_Time_.jpg

GrandmaSideways
02-04-2008, 03:16 AM
who wants to bet he is driving a 240 wagon now?
haha

Krunk Fu
02-04-2008, 03:28 AM
:rofl:

the poi
02-04-2008, 03:51 AM
Only slightly more impulsive than usual. How the **** did you get them for so cheap?

edit:// Why am I asking you this on tbricks?

DaytonAE86
02-04-2008, 10:58 AM
adapters, yes. now... who do I have to hunt like an animal to get me some....

dale, 245gti , just fire off a pm.

And.... THOSE THINGS LOOK AWESOME. Maybe wait until they come in, and measure the exact size spacer you would want.

Damn, good choice.

amargill19?
02-04-2008, 12:28 PM
How the **** did you get them for so cheap?

penny offers amazing sexual services :oogle:

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-04-2008, 01:49 PM
Only slightly more impulsive than usual. How the **** did you get them for so cheap?

edit:// Why am I asking you this on tbricks?

they're not forged, that's why they weren't like 800 dollars a wheel :-P

my source is so nebulous, so foreign, so nefarious that even if you spent a lifetime scouring the interbutts for this very same deal, you would likely never find it...

MikeHardy
02-04-2008, 08:04 PM
have a look for saab stuff. i know you don't get much vauxhall over there but there the same.

5x110mm, so a smidge bigger then volvo bolt pattern but i doubt much over to matter, plus same center bore as volvos are 65.1mm and same offset range as FWD volvo's

stylngle2003
02-05-2008, 04:03 PM
Pat, and anyone else interested for that matter...yo ucan get team dynamics pro race 1.2s in 17x8 or 17x9 et20, just check it out here http://www.teamdynamics.de/produkte/uebersicht_fahrzeug.php?auswahl=prorace12 and it's in german

suterman
02-05-2008, 04:57 PM
arn't old jag (xj 40) 5 x 108?


I saw a jag in the yard the other day

15" steelies fitted with 225 65 15 rubber

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FULL-SET-OF-5-JAGUAR-ALLOY-WHEELS-WITH-TYRES-METRIC_W0QQitemZ160204204432QQihZ006QQcategoryZ103 90QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


oops

no looks like they're 5 x 120 or somthing


though it seems that later jags have 5 x 108 (xtype?)

http://www.alloywheelsinternational.com/wheelfitmentguide.html

suterman
02-05-2008, 05:06 PM
yes

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-ALLOY-WHEELS-225-40-18-TYRES-FIT-JAGUAR-X-TYPE_W0QQitemZ350020375816QQihZ022QQcategoryZ28648 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

MikeHardy
02-05-2008, 06:56 PM
yeah newer jags are 5x108. but need pretty big spacers to work as there like 50+ offset. also smaller bore i think too.

Homer
02-05-2008, 07:27 PM
I predict they will look like ass.
Due to impulse and lack of poi input.

the poi
02-05-2008, 08:35 PM
I predict they will look like ass.
Due to impulse and lack of poi input.

there's writing on the rim though woo

Homer
02-05-2008, 08:37 PM
there's writing on the rim though woo

OH

Krunk Fu
02-05-2008, 08:41 PM
there's writing on the rim though woo

writing on the rim looks awesome if its not to flashy

I think the wheels he bought will look great on his car

rancidponymilk
02-05-2008, 10:33 PM
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/wheels/BRANDfolder/images/crkai_01.gif
those wheels are f'n awesome.How much would a set of 4 cost?

about 300 each for 17x8, which is a good deal for quality wheels that fit right.

jungledorifuto
02-05-2008, 10:41 PM
i run 17x9s et30 with a 30mm spacer in the rear and they clear the rear trailing arm by around 1/4 inch.. thats zero offset on a x9. just a heads up

towerymt
02-05-2008, 11:05 PM
i run 17x9s et30 with a 30mm spacer in the rear and they clear the rear trailing arm by around 1/4 inch.. thats zero offset on a x9. just a heads up
With the axle centered, 9" ET0 would have plenty of clearance to the trailing arm.

9.5" ET0:

http://www.pbase.com/image/92595713.jpg

jungledorifuto
02-05-2008, 11:10 PM
ahh with the axle centered.. yes mine isnt yet

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-06-2008, 02:50 PM
Either of you have problems with the upper shock bolt or inner wheel well with et0?

Rectilinear
02-06-2008, 03:57 PM
Been dealing with the same problem.... Finally picked up some adapters (that I am not afraid to use) to 5-114. Now, options are open.

5-108 wheels:
Jaguar X-Type (only)
1993 Lincoln Continental
Newer Volvo's

That's all I could find when I was looking, they don't make it easy.

towerymt
02-06-2008, 06:31 PM
Either of you have problems with the upper shock bolt or inner wheel well with et0?
No, not with 9.5" ET0, so 9" ET0 would also be fine. With larger wheels and a lowered car, the shock bolt is approximately next to the edge of the wheel. With 15" wheels and stock rear springs, bne's 242 was able to shred a wide hoosier during an autocross. It just doesn't seem to be an issue with larger wheels though.

I've only done three autocrosses with my setup. The tires are flush with the edge of the wheel and I got NO rubbing on the chassis...and I was definitely looking for it. 265/45 on 16x9.5 ET38 with ~35mm adapters.

Pennybridge Pioneer
02-06-2008, 10:31 PM
No, not with 9.5" ET0, so 9" ET0 would also be fine. With larger wheels and a lowered car, the shock bolt is approximately next to the edge of the wheel. With 15" wheels and stock rear springs, bne's 242 was able to shred a wide hoosier during an autocross. It just doesn't seem to be an issue with larger wheels though.

I've only done three autocrosses with my setup. The tires are flush with the edge of the wheel and I got NO rubbing on the chassis...and I was definitely looking for it. 265/45 on 16x9.5 ET38 with ~35mm adapters.

Sweet. I'm going to mount some 255s and take some measurements. Gotta order adapters either in 32mm or 35mm (et3 and et0 respectively)

Stereophile33
06-13-2008, 06:30 PM
any pictures of these mounted and on the car now?
Jonathan

norcal505
06-13-2008, 09:18 PM
whatever you do, just please ditch the wtf-ish Wedsports...
but i shouldnt be talking.
i'm rolling steelies.

the poi
06-13-2008, 09:35 PM
any pictures of these mounted and on the car now?
Jonathan

Some here: http://www.pbase.com/765ti/too_fore_oh . I think they're neat.

rancidponymilk
06-13-2008, 11:03 PM
whatever you do, just please ditch the wtf-ish Wedsports...
but i shouldnt be talking.
i'm rolling steelies.

you best be joking, those wedsports are better than any factory volvo wheel, also better than what most people have on this site.

sirspanky
06-14-2008, 12:29 AM
I dont think it looks bad, and for the price, I dont think there was really a choice. not my first choice but looks great anyways.

Pennybridge Pioneer
06-14-2008, 12:50 AM
if you don't like them in that picture, imagine what they look like now that they're filthy

they're mad tyte JDM yo!

Crazychopstick
06-14-2008, 01:03 AM
I saw some MB motoring knockoffs the other day.

No filth mod though.

sirspanky
06-14-2008, 01:04 AM
I will be purchasing a set of sick JDM rims also....eventually

rancidponymilk
06-14-2008, 02:14 AM
I think I'll be getting these, but in black. ssr professor sp1, 17x8.5 with a 5 offset. SSR makes most of their wheels in any bolt pattern and offset, but they're expensive.

http://www.more-japan.com/skin1/images/SSR/SSR/sp1/wheel01.jpg