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suterman
02-13-2008, 01:10 PM
Just finished installing my new suspension bits,

Polybushed all round
bilstien HD
lowering springs 40mm on the front
standard estate rear springs

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8862/sm1yi8.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6200/sm2uh6.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2738/sm3lt4.png (http://imageshack.us)


Not sure if I'm happy with it, I might try the old saloon springs back on the rear to let it down a little.

I am thinking that double anti-roll bars might be in order.

dbh86
02-13-2008, 01:13 PM
It would probably help if the side picture was on a level surface? It looks good from the other shots, just the way the ground is from the side makes it look all weird.

suterman
02-13-2008, 01:19 PM
try this one, though the light was fading fast...

I really have trouble finding a flat surface, I'm not kidding.

you should see my drive, I try not to take pictures of my car around my house because the uneven surfaces make it look all weird.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8561/sm4qi2.png (http://imageshack.us)

makes the rear wheels look tiny huh.

Chris_R
02-13-2008, 01:22 PM
RUUUN!!! It's RAKEZILLA!!!!!


Great looking car - :boink: those rims.

340GL
02-13-2008, 01:25 PM
i like 240s with a ton of rake.

keep that amount of angle but lower it another inch all round = awesome

Wagner
02-13-2008, 01:48 PM
http://personal.inet.fi/koti/wagner/onlevel.jpg

Here's the same pic as above but straightened a bit.

I would lower the back a bit, otherwise a nice clean car and i like those wheels

SeriousSteve
02-13-2008, 01:59 PM
Sweet, it's like the 240 version of thelostartof's 744 :-D

The paintwork looks like it's come up nice Mike!

MikeHardy
02-13-2008, 02:05 PM
got any dead coils on those estate springs

suterman
02-13-2008, 02:25 PM
Sweet, it's like the 240 version of thelostartof's 744 :-D

The paintwork looks like it's come up nice Mike!

Yeah, the bits I haven't repainted are great:)

got any dead coils on those estate springs


Hope not, they're brand new.

jamin01
02-13-2008, 02:31 PM
Do you ever blackout with the blood running to your feet?
Na, that is a sexy 240, i like it a lot. I would personally lower the back a bit though. Rake is nice, but that's rather large.

Redwood Chair
02-13-2008, 02:40 PM
Cut the estate springs :)

amargill19?
02-13-2008, 02:43 PM
I'm going to run rally lowering springs on the front of my car, and keep the stock sedan springs for a while and see how it looks.

Cool though.

MikeHardy
02-13-2008, 02:48 PM
Hope not, they're brand new.

haha mike, dead coils means coils that just sit against each other not doing anything

suterman
02-13-2008, 02:58 PM
noob alert!!!

oops, perhaps I should know that by now.

I have the oppertunity to swap them for saloon lowering ones for no charge so I might go for that.

spruill242
02-13-2008, 03:04 PM
I want those wheels soo bad.

suterman
02-13-2008, 05:19 PM
I have decided to swap the rear springs for lowering springs, the guy I got them off says I can swap them for no charge so :)

Krunk Fu
02-13-2008, 05:56 PM
lookin good dude

92 240gl
02-13-2008, 06:28 PM
that rear end is still really high
i put hd cargo coils on my sedan and it still appears to be sagging

VolvoPunch
02-13-2008, 07:08 PM
Very nice, thats one good looking white 240. (I usually don't like the white ones :-P)

n. rippe
02-13-2008, 09:05 PM
How does the rake affect the handling?

SquareD
02-13-2008, 09:11 PM
You go mo' rake than a hardware store, son! Now you just need some traction bars and some kidney beans cragars.

Jordan
02-14-2008, 12:02 AM
You will always look like you are slamming on the brakes.

GhengisKhan
02-14-2008, 12:07 AM
How does the rake affect the handling?

QFE.

JustFord0099
02-14-2008, 12:36 AM
so awesome :nod:

Fordy-88
02-14-2008, 06:29 AM
nice! i'd say lower all round, but keep the rake imo

dirtbike
02-14-2008, 09:38 AM
Good work Mike, that second pic makes it your car look like it's on tip toes :rofl:


I am thinking that double anti-roll bars might be in order.

How will that help the rake??? or did you mean to compliment the other upgrade for handling?
Everyone seems to be busy at the mo, which is good!
Laters
Nick

suterman
02-14-2008, 12:10 PM
I have decided to swap the rear estate springs for saloon lowering ones, they are from Mike brace and he says he will swap them for free,

the anti-roll bars wont affect the rake, just make it a little less rolley and induce more oversteer.

(I hope):)


The reason I plumbed for the rear estate springs is because I normally have a bunch of crap in the boot, I was thinking the car would sit better when loaded up, but the way it is at the moment is bloody rediculous

dirtbike
02-14-2008, 12:35 PM
the anti-roll bars wont affect the rake, just make it a little less rolley and induce more oversteer.

(I hope):)

You'll get more oversteer if you increase the roll resistance on the rear, if you double up the front ARB's you'll end up with understeer unless your running really sticky stuff up front, lol.

Like I said, it's nice to see some progress from everyone. I'm hoping that a lot of the long term projects everyones working on will come to fruition this year.

Regards
Nick

Beatnic240
02-14-2008, 01:24 PM
I think it would look better with some meatier tires on the back... would increase rake even more and look more proportional instead of just jacked up.

Those rims are nice, but maybe some copper drift multi-spokes... or some stock steelies with wide offset in the rear.

suterman
02-14-2008, 02:15 PM
I think it would look better with some meatier tires on the back... would increase rake even more and look more proportional instead of just jacked up.

Those rims are nice, but maybe some copper drift multi-spokes... or some stock steelies with wide offset in the rear.

You must be kidding, I just spent nearly $800 on those tyres!:-P

Crazychopstick
02-14-2008, 04:48 PM
Hot.

Don't like the rake much but the Galaxies are super nice.

Turbo Jim
02-15-2008, 10:47 AM
I love your car Mike!

I'd probably drop the back a little tho or it might get a bit interesting round the bends!

Jim.

suterman
02-15-2008, 12:08 PM
popped the old stock springs back on after work today, thats much better!:)


http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5271/bilyr5.png (http://imageshack.us)

klr142
02-16-2008, 02:26 AM
Cut the estate springs +1. That's the smart thing to do. Give you some more stiffness, and still actually look and handle decently. that rear end is still really high
i put hd cargo coils on my sedan and it still appears to be saggingReplace your trailing arm bushings. How does the rake affect the handling?Poorly. Makes the car more prone to lifting the inside rear tire, reduces overall grip in the rear, and makes the rear want to roll over more.


So, do you have the original springs in the car now, or sedan lowering springs? Just cut ~2 coils off of the top of the estate/wagon springs and call it perfect. Or, if you want your car to be low, cut 2.5 coils off or more... ;-)

suterman
02-16-2008, 04:31 AM
+1. That's the smart thing to do. Give you some more stiffness, and still actually look and handle decently. Replace your trailing arm bushings. Poorly. Makes the car more prone to lifting the inside rear tire, reduces overall grip in the rear, and makes the rear want to roll over more.


So, do you have the original springs in the car now, or sedan lowering springs? Just cut ~2 coils off of the top of the estate/wagon springs and call it perfect. Or, if you want your car to be low, cut 2.5 coils off or more... ;-)

The standard GLT springs (which are a little lower and stiffer, maybe 15mm than GL springs)

The trouble is the annual inspection (MOT) is very strict and will fail on cut springs.

MikeHardy
02-16-2008, 04:41 AM
mine never did, ran cut spring both times i had the 244 mot'd

klr142
02-16-2008, 12:25 PM
How would it fail on cut springs? Do the lift the car into the air so the suspension is in full droop? Get some shorter Suburban shocks then to keep them fully in place, haha. Or, just cut 1-1.5 coils off of the wagon springs and they'll still stay pretty much all the way up and give you a ride height similar to what you're at right now, only stiffer.

suterman
02-17-2008, 03:32 PM
OH ffs,


Cut springs are a fail on the UK MOT, if you got away with it you were lucky they didn't notice.

As previously stated, I have some lowering saloon springs, I just have to collect them from Wales.



Thread ends. (yes I'm in a huff)

dirtbike
02-17-2008, 05:06 PM
oooohhhh!!!! :nancy:

Cheer up you miserable sod, the cars looking much better now!
Laters
Nick