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MoWGLi
02-08-2004, 04:56 PM
I have been looking for some specs on 740's but cant find any anywhere so i decided to ask you guys. What are the engine specs on a 88-90 740 wagon GLE? (i think its GLE). My parents wont let me get a turbo so i have a chance to get a GLE and was wondering what the engine specs are.

stylngle2003
02-08-2004, 05:06 PM
2.3L
114 Hp @ 5500rpm
136lb-ft torque at 2750 rpm (iirc)
redline is 6K like other 740s
cam is the M grind (it sucks)
exhaust size is 2" (2.25-2.5" is a good upgrade)
it should use LH 2.2 Fuel Injection, i think the switch to LH 2.4 came in 1989 or 1990

if you want to know specifics...the engine is pretty good around town, quick off the line thanks to the quick 1st gear, but above about 4750-5000 rpms on the M cam, you wont see much acceleration increase.

you'll prolly cut a 19sec 1/4 mile time (my modded "lightweight" 744 cut a 18.081 at 74mph with a VX cam, free flowing exhaust and K&N filter, 3004lb weight, and a 4000rpm launch)

im turboing mine this spring (with the help of mAydAy and wildmanben), but a GLE is a good way to have a sleeper for sure, especially with no turbo badging :badboy:

MoWGLi
02-08-2004, 05:27 PM
well thats slightly disapointing. I was hoping it would have i bit more performance. I would do an engine swap but i have no money so i guess im f*cked. Maybe i'll just go buy a Subaru Impreza. Stupid parants have to be so anal about everything.

Chigga 744SE
02-08-2004, 06:21 PM
who cares, just get the 744 and slamm it and make look good.

not everyone needs a 13s car.

Brickster151
02-08-2004, 06:25 PM
F+T a GLE behind their back

945ti
02-08-2004, 07:04 PM
88-90 GLE has lh2.2 and a b230F? Are you guys off your rocker? The later GLEs sometime in mid 88 came with a 16V (B234).
155HP (5500-600RPM), 150 FT/lb of torque (4000RPM or so), all LH2.4, cuts a high 16 low 17 in da 1/4.
The problem is that the 16V has a power curve that it nothing vaguely like the B230F 8V. It has 4.10 gears with the auto for a reason, maybe 3.91s-manual and I can say with confidence after driving an 89 16V auto and a 91 16V manual, that the 16V needs 4.10 gears. It moves OK with the auto (2500 stall speed or so, tighter gear ratios on the AW-72L too), but my lower compression B230 (with stock exhaust) moves a touch quicker in 1st with a taller 1st and a 3.73 rear gearset. With the manual it moved alright, (I think I drove a 745) the short 1st helps, you can wind the piss out of it and it starts to move adaquately. A 16V with some mods and deleting that clutch fan for a little less drag at low RPMs, a ,manual etc could make a car of fairly similar speed to a stock turbo car. The B230F found in the earlier GLEs is pretty rock solid, and it is going to get better mileage than the 16V with the taller gears and a stick especially.
Then again, you could get a a 940 or 740 GL 8V and add a turbo for not much and go for the high compression torque monster approach.

stylngle2003
02-08-2004, 07:19 PM
F+T a GLE behind their back

haha thats what im doin! (behnd my mom's back that is :twisted: )


945TI...i think youre right....i misread the info :wink:

Roguls
02-08-2004, 08:45 PM
88-90 GLE has lh2.2 and a b230F? Are you guys off your rocker? The later GLEs sometime in mid 88 came with a 16V (B234).
155HP (5500-600RPM), 150 FT/lb of torque (4000RPM or so), all LH2.4, cuts a high 16 low 17 in da 1/4.
The problem is that the 16V has a power curve that it nothing vaguely like the B230F 8V. It has 4.10 gears with the auto for a reason, maybe 3.91s-manual and I can say with confidence after driving an 89 16V auto and a 91 16V manual, that the 16V needs 4.10 gears. It moves OK with the auto (2500 stall speed or so, tighter gear ratios on the AW-72L too), but my lower compression B230 (with stock exhaust) moves a touch quicker in 1st with a taller 1st and a 3.73 rear gearset. With the manual it moved alright, (I think I drove a 745) the short 1st helps, you can wind the piss out of it and it starts to move adaquately. A 16V with some mods and deleting that clutch fan for a little less drag at low RPMs, a ,manual etc could make a car of fairly similar speed to a stock turbo car. The B230F found in the earlier GLEs is pretty rock solid, and it is going to get better mileage than the 16V with the taller gears and a stick especially.
Then again, you could get a a 940 or 740 GL 8V and add a turbo for not much and go for the high compression torque monster approach.

Yep, GLE is 16Valve. Make sure you change that timing belt every 30k miles!!!

MoWGLi
02-08-2004, 09:13 PM
alright, well i guess that isnt to bad then. Thanks for peoples quick responce's. I suppose i will buy it and ghetto fab as much horsepower out of the engine. Maybe i could make an all motor high compression engine. who knows.

tequila_gundam_no_chaser
02-08-2004, 10:38 PM
don't forget to change out your idler pulleys too. they can and will break

Chigga 744SE
02-08-2004, 10:40 PM
SLAMM IT!!!!

Dr. Volvo
02-08-2004, 10:57 PM
[quote:e75829b41e="Brickster151"]F+T a GLE behind their back

haha thats what im doin! (behnd my mom's back that is :twisted: )


945TI...i think youre right....i misread the info :wink:[/quote:e75829b41e]

Ha ha! :rofl:

I remember I did somthing like that when I was 16 and drove a moped.
The speedlimit for moped is 30 mph in Norway and mine did 65 mph :-D , They even lent me money for a new cylinder (52mm) because I told them that my original (41mm) was worn out.

Afturmath
02-09-2004, 12:29 AM
There's really a lot you can do with a 16-valve (non-turbo) if you know what you're doing. The best (read: most cost effective) thing you can do is make a nice cold-air/ram-air intake for it (behind the grill or where the foglights should/could be). It should improve throttle response and some acceleration, especially on the highway. Some other basic things you could do to get the most out of the B234f for little money would be to clean the throttle body (and adjust if necessary) and replace the clutch fan with an electric fan (already mentioned). If you're really serious about performance, you could get a bigger exhaust system (2.5"-3") with a high-flow (or hollow) cat and a tubular header. If it's still not enough for you (you power hungry monster you), you could replace the rear end with a 3.73 and convert it to an M47 (assuming it's an AW72). The AW72L is a monster (post 1st gear), but the 4.10 rear end limits it a bit.

I mention all this assuming you're not out to build a racecar.

MoWGLi
02-09-2004, 12:48 AM
I plan on making this car as unstreetable as possible, so i am going for max power. I allready plan on stripping most of the interior, (juss leave the front 2 seats and door panels and dash) exhaust and intake.

Afturmath
02-09-2004, 12:52 AM
If you have a spare $10,000±, you can always do a full 16-valve turbo project. Search the board for more info.

davidmacq
02-09-2004, 01:02 AM
I would recommend you not stripping the interior. Was reading guidom's thread on his speeding ticket, haha. Gundom? Well whoever. Cops are gonna try to write you up for as big a ticket as possible if they pull you over. Forget getting out of any. If it's gonna be on the street I think doing that for a few tenths is nuts. Same thing with removing AC, stereo and all that. I'd much rather go 15.9 instead of 15.6 and not worry about getting taken to jail! haha