EU4.0 - official thread

[frpe82]

Maybe early to think about the Euro meet summer of 2009, but it would be nice to plan a little during the winter, and also to get an idea of when to plan vacations and days off from work etc.

I guess we are doing Nürburg ring again in 2009. But what else are we doing?

Dates for the meet?

A poll is made so that we can see which weeks in the summer of 2009 that we can do this in. The range of dates for me is pretty flexible, but I would like to be able to keep it to the 2nd half of July and 1st part of August if possible, so that is what the poll contains.

The poll is of course multiple choice type so that you can select all the weeks that you might be available.




Date is set: July 26th (Sunday)




People going to the Nürburg ring, and the car they will bring:

Philip (Turbosteen): 760 16VT
Jan Willem (JW240): 240 +/-T?
Fredrik (Frpe82): V90 3.0 NA tuned to the maxxx
Ruben (Ruben): A bike or a 360 (same weight, same stability, same speed? :rofl: )
Audun (Morley): Will try to come in unknown car
Joris (volvo78244): 960 16VT, or Donkervoort :roll:
Jan (Janspeed): 940 T
Boris (Mr.Borrie): White Rice (760T)
Leon (Leon_pp): 142R by Leon
Chesh (Chesh740R): The 750R , if not the 940 Sport will have to suffice
Jelmar (J2_): 740 8v or 16vT, If my JohnV goodies last haha
Chad Wilson (Chad242ti): N/A 245
Ben (Benzine): Volvo'd Indy
James (foggyjames): Mini-brick?
Vladislav (ipdown): 960 16vT
Sander: 480ES?

It will be really fun this season as well :-D

[JW240]

very nice.

I need to factor in a short time for my trip to Mallorca, but i think that will be before the beginning of July.

2nd half of July and 1st part of August is good with me. i'll vote when i know more.

[frpe82]

very nice.

I need to factor in a short time for my trip to Mallorca, but i think that will be before the beginning of July.

2nd half of July and 1st part of August is good with me. i'll vote when i know more.
You're going to Mallorca? Nice :)

With friends or family?

[JW240]

You're going to Mallorca? Nice :)

With friends or family?

friends, probably a 5 days. should be fun :cool:
It is still unclear to me when, but i do know that it is going to happen haha.

[frpe82]

Anyone except myself and the Holland/Belgium crew that are planning/wanting to go?

[frpe82]

I can see that Morley has voted in this thread.

You comin' too? Taking Hoggen and/or someone else with you as well?

[Morley]

Maybe. It's all to soon to say that I'm coming, since I hate to pull out when I realize I can't make it.

But end of July, begin August is perfect for me. Just gotta shuffle the $$$ right.

[volvo78244]

I voted for the first 3 options because those will be my work holidays, almost the same every year. The Nurburgring is game for me, I'm open for other suggestions...

Is EU4.0 already? That would mean I missed two of them...

Talked to Jan and Philip today, they were looking also looking forward to this..

[frpe82]

Is EU4.0 already? That would mean I missed two of them...
EU1.0: The UK BBQ international meet in 2006.

EU2.0: The Vallåkra international meet in 2007.

EU3.0: The Nürburg ring meet in 2008.

[volvo78244]

EU1.0: The UK BBQ international meet in 2006.

EU2.0: The Vallåkra international meet in 2007.

EU3.0: The Nürburg ring meet in 2008.

Ah ok, so I did miss those, I thought last year's meet was EU1.0 but it actually was EU3.0.

Already looking forward to EU4.0, we had our own little mini-meet today at VKB (Ruben, Philip, Jan, Jan-Willem, me), scored a few nice parts

[frpe82]

Ah ok, so I did miss those, I thought last year's meet was EU1.0 but it actually was EU3.0.
Yeah. I had the names and numbering changed since we discussed it and found out that this was a more correct nomenclature.

[volvorsport]

well , anything will be fine for me at the moment , if i have a car to do something with next year .

i was hoping to plan a big meet next year - i dunno how its going to pan out tho .

[frpe82]

well , anything will be fine for me at the moment , if i have a car to do something with next year .

i was hoping to plan a big meet next year - i dunno how its going to pan out tho .
Collaboration?

[volvorsport]

yeah , ill let you know in due course , i was hoping to put it to the voc aswell , altho we dont have performance car section keeper/register person to thrash ideas out with .

If not then ill go with something smaller .

[1stRaven]

In for the updates.

[frpe82]

Are we going large in 2009?

Stickers for our cars, beerfest and the whole shebang?

[Turbosteen]

Ah, finally... EU 4.0 I thought this would be 2.0, but I understand...

I'm looking forward to the Nordschleife already:)

Feel the powah of Volvo 760 GLE:-P

[Turbosteen]

But what else are we doing?


Another day tot the Nurbürgring:)

Or something like a bbq?

We could ''rent'' a dyno for the cars, and look at the performance of each car.
If you go with a few cars at the same time the price per car drops...
I would like to see the power output of my car:cool:

[Mr.Borrie]

I will be there, i just hope i can still get the cash together to go to the USA.. but its looking grim

[Ruben]

I'll be there, just have to make sure I've got something Ring worthy.

[TheJoyOfSix]

I believe the Uk crowd had a weekend at BBQ's with a trip to Blackpool Pleasure Beach followed by a weeks tour of Scotland planned.


This could always be expanded into Euro 4.0 if needs be.

[Morley]

I believe the Uk crowd had a weekend at BBQ's with a trip to Blackpool Pleasure Beach followed by a weeks tour of Scotland planned.


This could always be expanded into Euro 4.0 if needs be.

My guess is that if I sum up enough money to go the ring etc., there's nothing left to come to GB. Oh and there are no ferries left between Norway and England. Closest is Denmark. (At one hell of a prize.)

Ryanair is always an option, but I'm not going to put myself in the passengerseat whilst any of you maniacs are driving....

[BB-Q]

I'll be more than happy to host a meet (maybe we can do our own version of SE?) that can take up a day or two or three, but of course I won't be able to cover the entire cost myself at that point.

If that suits more people (as many don't have 'ring worthy cars) then I'm good with that. I just need to know. It's possibly not the most ideal venue on the calendar, but we know how to party!

[BB-Q]

My guess is that if I sum up enough money to go the ring etc., there's nothing left to come to GB. Oh and there are no ferries left between Norway and England. Closest is Denmark. (At one hell of a prize.)

Ryanair is always an option, but I'm not going to myself in the passengerseat whilst any of you maniacs are driving....

i'll always come and pick you up from the airport, Audun :)

[volvo78244]

If anyone wants to fly to Dusseldorf airport I could pick you up on my way to the Ring, almost no detour for me.

I've been searching the website of the Ring for requirements for the car driving the Ring, does it need to be streetlegal and/or registrated for normal traffic? It could be possible that I have 2 'Ring worthy' cars by then, but just 1 will be registrated.

[BB-Q]

If anyone wants to fly to Dusseldorf airport I could pick you up on my way to the Ring, almost no detour for me.

I've been searching the website of the Ring for requirements for the car driving the Ring, does it need to be streetlegal and/or registrated for normal traffic? It could be possible that I have 2 'Ring worthy' cars by then, but just 1 will be registrated.

the car must be legal, I think, as the 'Ring is a public road.

[Turbosteen]

Well, according to the law it's a public (pay) road....
I can't imagine you can drive on it without MOT/TüV/APK whatever its called in each country..
How do you insure a non-registered car? Is that possible?

[Ruben]

Over here in the Netherlands a car must be registered to insure.

[volvo78244]

Ok, that narrow's it down to 1 car since I ain't "that rich kid"...

[liquidvice]

Hey guys, i might be coming over again but i dont know about a ring trip. I know me and a few others have expressed intrest in Vallakra again. I dont know if we can make this a ticket trip but It would be fun to meet a bunch of guys in Helsongborg again.

-Greg

[frpe82]

Hey guys, i might be coming over again but i dont know about a ring trip. I know me and a few others have expressed intrest in Vallakra again. I dont know if we can make this a ticket trip but It would be fun to meet a bunch of guys in Helsongborg again.

-Greg
That can surely be arranged.

This time I am bringing the Dutch guys with me back to Sweden when I leave Holland :-P

But we'll see what happens.

[Mr.Borrie]

That can surely be arranged.

This time I am bringing the Dutch guys with me back to Sweden when I leave Holland :-P

But we'll see what happens.

Say what?

[frpe82]

Say what?
I said: We'll see what happens.

It would be nice if you could come with me to Sweden as well.

[Mr.Borrie]

I said: We'll see what happens.

It would be nice if you could come with me to Sweden as well.

Ahw sweet! if i can i will you know it

[JW240]

nice nice.

[volvo78244]

This time I am bringing the Dutch guys with me back to Sweden when I leave Holland :-P


Too bad I ain't dutch ;-)

[Chad242ti]

Except we'll have to rely on Ruben to bring the 242...

Chad

[volvo78244]

Yeah, I heard you sold it. Now Ruben has a turbo again.

So what are you gonna bring next time?

[Chad242ti]

I'll probably end up bringing one of our 240 wagons...

It will be fun, but slow...

Chad

[liquidvice]

Ive been doing a bit of research on flights and prices and it looks like its going to be around $1200 to fly to copenhagen round trip. Im beginning to have second thoughts on going this year but if I can get 10 people from the east coast to go we can get a group discount on SAS but I dont think thats going to happen with the econ in shambles and everyone hoarding their $$$ (can't really blame them though). If anybody from the states is interested in going for Vallakra, August 15-16 let me know so I can start generating names and get some #'s running.

-Greg

[towerymt]

Ive been doing a bit of research on flights and prices and it looks like its going to be around $1200 to fly to copenhagen round trip. Im beginning to have second thoughts on going this year but if I can get 10 people from the east coast to go we can get a group discount on SAS but I dont think thats going to happen with the econ in shambles and everyone hoarding their $$$ (can't really blame them though). If anybody from the states is interested in going for Vallakra, August 15-16 let me know so I can start generating names and get some #'s running.

-Greg
I'm interested in a summer trip. If not Europe, I'll settle for California.

[liquidvice]

Update: I talked with SAS Airlines on Friday and they gave me a quote on a group rate airfare of around 750 bucks. The only catch is that we would have to get at least a group of 10 to go. I think thats a bit of a stretch but if I could get the names of anyone who might think they could go, it would be helpful. BTW: we could always do some other siteseeing stuff for the non volvo people if they want to go.

-Greg

[Turbosteen]

Ok, starting a list of people who WANT (and try) to come to the Nordschleife (if possible with date and stuff...). A lot of people wnat to go, but probably won't, so no joking around;-)
This way we can see some numbers and cars:)
Just quote previous post (duhh...) and I'll start.


Name and car
Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT
Add your name and car here

[JW240]

Name and car
Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Add your name and car here

.

[Volvorules]

Name and car
Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get :)
Add your name and car here

[towerymt]

Name and car
Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Add your name and car here

[MrBill]

if we can get some group rate and if im invited I'd go :nod:
edit: fuggit i'll just go anyways.

[Homer]

Update: I talked with SAS Airlines on Friday and they gave me a quote on a group rate airfare of around 750 bucks. The only catch is that we would have to get at least a group of 10 to go. I think thats a bit of a stretch but if I could get the names of anyone who might think they could go, it would be helpful. BTW: we could always do some other siteseeing stuff for the non volvo people if they want to go.

-Greg

At that price I might go.
Philip would have to deal with me again though.:rofl:

[towerymt]

if we can get some group rate and if im invited I'd go :nod:
edit: fuggit i'll just go anyways.
we're close to the group rate. really close. unless people start dropping out...

[frpe82]

Name and car
Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Add your name and car here
I will add this and the following entries to the first post of this thread so that we can keep track of it.

[Turbosteen]

At that price I might go.


Phew, MIGHT. That's a relief:-P


Philip would have to deal with me again though.:rofl:


Not only me... haha
Maybe we can rent a boom lift again:rofl: an extra high one...

[Ruben]

Ruben (Ruben) I'll crash Philip's 760 16VT

[Morley]

Add me in for trying to come.

[volvo78244]

Add me, I will come, it was fun last year and this year should be even more fun :oogle:
Hope I don't crash before the summer :-P

I don't know if it's a good idea but a friend of mine drives a Donkervoort and he wants to go the Ring also. If he wants to bring his car would that be ok or do we want to keep it all Volvo?

Joris

[Janspeed]

Name and car
Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Add your name and car here

gives me some incentive to get the T3 and 3" downpipe mounted :-P

[Turbosteen]

@Ruben: READ! Just ADD your name to the list...
I've updated the list...

Name and car
Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Can I bring my bicycle?
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Add your name and car here

[ipdown]

I would like to come, but I can't tell for sure yet.
Its more than 2300 km from here. But, who knows..
Provided that my car still runs and I have some money..

[MrBill]

I'm going to unofficially commit to this. I guess ill talk to towery and rob friday

Name and car
Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Can I bring my bicycle?
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Add your name and car here

[Mr.Borrie]

Oh you know borrie will be there!

Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Can I bring my bicycle?
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Boris (Mr.Borrie) White Rice (760T)
Add your name and car here

[Ruben]

Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Even my bicycle is faster...
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Boris (Mr.Borrie) White Rice (760T)
Add your name and car here

[Leon_pp]

Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Even my bicycle is faster...
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Boris (Mr.Borrie) White Rice (760T)
Leon (Leon_pp) 142R by Leon :)
Add your name and car here

For the date, no pb with any of it, expect the week of Vrom in sueden, this year, i will try to go to the "Holy Land" :)

[frpe82]

All of you are now in the first post of the thread. It is easier to keep track of.

[Turbosteen]

Please remove that Ruben is going to crash my car...
Let him crash his own car, whatever it is... (360 FTL:rofl:)
Thanks

[Homer]

Phew, MIGHT. That's a relief:-P



Not only me... haha
Maybe we can rent a boom lift again:rofl: an extra high one...

Haha. Can we have your dad set it up for extra safety?

Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Even my bicycle is faster...
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Boris (Mr.Borrie) White Rice (760T)
Leon (Leon_pp) 142R by Leon
Jacob (Homer) JW's 240, cause well, it won't roll over like the 760:rofl:

[volvo78244]

Joris (volvo78244): 960 16VT, or Donkervoort :roll:


Please note that I will bring the 960 and maybe also the Donkervoort on a trailer since that is an open car and not really comfortable to drive a long way on the Autobahn.

[500dollar744ti]

i am quite interested in participating... let me iron out some details, i would really like to go.

[frpe82]

Please remove that Ruben is going to crash my car...
Let him crash his own car, whatever it is... (360 FTL:rofl:)
Thanks
Sure.

[JW240]

Good to see a lot of interest!

When (if?) going to sweden The Volvo museum near the factory, and the Volvo industrial museum (http://www.volvo.com/group/global/en-gb/volvo+group/history/museums/VolvoIndustrialMuseum.htm) is cool too (I think).


Haha. Can we have your dad set it up for extra safety?


:rofl::rofl:

http://www.craneoperator.com/images/Crane-Mishaps/Mishaps-2007/2007-09-28/2007-09-28-800X600/PIC_0005.JPG

[frpe82]

http://www.craneoperator.com/images/Crane-Mishaps/Mishaps-2007/2007-09-28/2007-09-28-800X600/PIC_0005.JPG
I can hear that skylift sound ringing in my head all over again... beep beep beep beep beep...

[JW240]

I can hear that skylift sound ringing in my head all over again... beep beep beep beep beep...

its soooo stable. go higher. hahaha :lol:

[ipdown]

Happy new year guys!
I really want to come, it would be nice to see so many tbrickers live.
If it happens I will of course come with my brick, otherwise it is pointless for me.

[Turbosteen]

HAPPY NEWYEAR from The Netherlands:)

[frpe82]

Happy new year from Sweden (although it is 3 hours and 40 minutes after 12).

I am sick, and the only thing that gives me a buzz is the cough medicine.

[towerymt]

Wanna buy some 2008? I've got an hour for sale.

[frpe82]

Wanna buy some 2008? I've got an hour for sale.
PayPal? :lol: (I am not going to pay you for used time. It is past 5 in the morning here in Sweden already.)

[JW240]

happy new year from the Netherlands (a bit late).

[Fivehundred]

Happy New Year to you all.

Keep me updated, I'll try and make some effort to come to this. I want to see Fred wobble round the ring in his V90 with a labrador in the back whilst smoking his pipe and wearing his comfy slippers. Gout is a terrible affliction for a man of his advancing years.:-P

[Turbosteen]

Off-topic mode ON
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:-P

Back On-topic

[CHESH740R]

I need a goal to work to and get mine done for so

Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Even my bicycle is faster...
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Boris (Mr.Borrie) White Rice (760T)
Leon (Leon_pp) 142R by Leon
Jacob (Homer) JW's 240, cause well, it won't roll over like the 760
Chesh (Chesh740R) The 750R , if not the 940 Sport will have to suffice.

[Fivehundred]

Genius, therefore off topic mode back on, I vote Fred's V90 shall hencefoth be known as "Hyacinth"

[frpe82]

Happy New Year to you all.

Keep me updated, I'll try and make some effort to come to this. I want to see Fred wobble round the ring in his V90 with a labrador in the back whilst smoking his pipe and wearing his comfy slippers. Gout is a terrible affliction for a man of his advancing years.:-P

Genius, therefore off topic mode back on, I vote Fred's V90 shall hencefoth be known as "Hyacinth"
Uh...

I get the first post, but not quite the second one... care to enlighten me what that was all about? Coffin joke?

And you will attend if you have the time off, right? It would be nice to see you in your 940 there (or maybe a 2CV? :-P ).

[Fivehundred]

Nah, watch Philip's clip, Hyacinth Bucket, and Hyacinths are Purple, hence your car has just named itself

It'd be cool to take a 2CV round the ring, wish I still had the Turbocharged gas powered Acadyane, though it was so badly executed it was lethal.

[volvorsport]

is there a definite date on this ?

[J2_]

Nah, watch Philip's clip, Hyacinth Bucket, and Hyacinths are Purple, hence your car has just named itself

It'd be cool to take a 2CV round the ring, wish I still had the Turbocharged gas powered Acadyane, though it was so badly executed it was lethal.

Friend of mine has a 53HP supercharged 2CV kit-car, now that thing is scary :nod:

[J2_]

Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Even my bicycle is faster...
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Boris (Mr.Borrie) White Rice (760T)
Leon (Leon_pp) 142R by Leon
Jacob (Homer) JW's 240, cause well, it won't roll over like the 760
Chesh (Chesh740R) The 750R , if not the 940 Sport will have to suffice
Jelmar (J2_) 740 8v or 16vT, If my JohnV goodies last haha

[Turbosteen]

http://www.nuerburgring.de/index.php?id=361

Everybody can watch the ''Nordschleife Safetyvideo'':)

And I translated the General Conditions for the passage of the Nürburgring, but I see it's not perfectly translated..
maybe they have it in English, but can't find it...

General conditions for the passage of the Nürburgring

General
The Nürburgring is event-free days and tested for tourist rides (Tourist trips) released. For these trips, the provisions of Highway Code (StVO), unless otherwise hereinafter provided.

Section 1 - license
1) The running of the Nürburgring is only permitted with a motor vehicle to the road Admission Procedure (StVZO) correspond. Vehicles, construction, or because of their technical condition for a minimum speed of 60 km / h below, are not available to the tourist trips excluded.
2) All drivers must hold a valid ticket of the Nürburgring GmbH and a valid driving license. The passage of the North Loop with transponder is solely in connection with a valid identification card allowed. A Embark on the North Loop only hold a transponder without
Identification card is not permitted. All tickets will lose at 31.12. each year, their validity.
A transfer of remaining rounds of the following year is not possible.
3) conveyance vehicles with license plates (red numbers), short-term indicator (04er
Numbers), vintage-change mark (07er numbers) are not allowed.
4) The Nürburgring GmbH reserves the right to drive with optically visible defects of the tourist trips out. Claims can not be here can be derived.

Section 2 - Using the Nürburgring
1) The entrance to the Nurburgring as well as the only exit on the set up and indicated as points.
2) The Nürburgring is one way street and marked accordingly. It is Clockwise traffic.
3) vehicles must use the roadway. It applies the ''Rechtsfahrgebot''. Overtaking is
only the left allowed.
4) On the whole, including the Nürburgring verges is absolute stopping. Except for vehicles with technical defects. Likewise prohibited turning back and driving on the Nürburgring.
5) If a vehicle accident or because of technical defect at the Nürburgring
or the auxiliary facilities are available, the driver report the incident immediately
when the line supervisor (Tel: 08000302112) be notified. The vehicle or the
danger point are properly secure and beyond the vehicle after the manner prescribed by the authority of the route is used by Nürburgring authorized towing service route from the area to tow let. The resulting costs will be borne by the keeper. Private towing trips are not allowed.
6) The use of snow chains and studded tires is not allowed. Also banned the use of racing tires (e.g. slicks). There is no winter maintenance performed.
7) motorcyclists must wear full protective clothing.
8) Motorists have been specified that this also applies to people in the back. Children must be with the appropriate restraint systems are secured.
9) In the area of accident is absolute overtaking points. Accident are in reasonable speed, but with no more than 50 km / h to happen. The Signaling the established route of the security personnel or Course security vehicles is important to note. This applies in particular to Select "bus ahead" route security vehicles is set with round light may not be overtaken. Failure will be punished with driving.
10) plug closures due to accidents, etc. are shown by red lights.

Section 3 - Speed
1) At the Nürburgring, the basic rules on the running speed in accordance with Section 3
Paragraph 1 StVO respected. (see below excerpt from the StVO).
2) race cars are in accordance with § 29 para 1 StVO prohibited. This includes
Speed record attempts by individual vehicles expressly.
3) The speed limits on the route, all users of the Nürburgring note.
4) as the "construction site" marked sections of the Nürburgring have slowly they are. The specified speed limit is strictly observed.

Section 4 - liability and damages
1) The running of the Nürburgring is done to the exclusion of any liability Nürburgring GmbH and it's people. This exclusion does not apply to Damage from the loss of life, body or health, or on a or negligent breach of duty - including a legal representative or a vicarious agent of the people enthafteten circle - and not based on other damages caused by an intentional or grossly negligent breach of duty -- also a legal representative or vicarious agent of the enthafteten Persons - are based.
2) accidents and damage to the roadway, the banquets, the fences, the Crash or other facilities are immediately to the Nürburgring Staff of the Nürburgring GmbH to report. Violations will be Accident flight displayed. The damage caused in a Loss recorded by the damage and are signed. The Cost of repairing the damage, including covers the use of
Course security personnel and securing the road vehicles and in particular related losses due to line closures will be borne by the polluter. The hourly rates, with the accidental and line closures Personnel and vehicle operations are applicable, may, on request, at the
Main access them. The assertion of individual ''nachzuweisenden'' higher damages remains unaffected by this rule. Those Provision also applies to line closures, which are not accidental, but on the loss of equipment due.
3) The Nürburgring GmbH has for all users by the damage caused gem.
Paragraph 2, the right to damage a down payment in cash
demand.

Section 5 - taxis
1) The implementation of pecuniary Taxi rides within the framework of tourist trips is prohibited. The reward taxis in particular, the Auction of lift on the Internet auction houses such as "ebay" as well as offering Such trips on Internet sites, newspaper ads, etc.
2) A violation of paragraph 1 above, an immediate ban on domestic as well as the replacement loose Withdrawal of the ticket with it.
3) exceptions to paragraph 1, requires the express written permission of
Managing Director of Nürburgring GmbH

Section 6 - Noise / Environment
1) Any damage to the environment is immediately to the enforcement staff to report.
2) vehicles, the vehicle registered in respect of noise limits Stand and do not comply with road noise, are excluded from running the route excluded. Furthermore, the noise limit under Nahfeldmessmethode (95 dB (A)) and of the Nürburgring GmbH maximum Noise levels measured at the pass should not be exceeded. The Nürburgring GmbH carries on the sound track measurements and reserves the right to Vehicles that the above noise limits, the
Tourist trips to exclude, even if the noise limits in the Vehicle registered, are. Excluded are
vehicles with defective or modified exhaust system inadmissible.
3) compensation claims or claims for reimbursement of Fahrgebühr consist of a
gem. Paragraph 2 outspoken Fahrverbotes not.

Section 7 - Miscellaneous
1) The passage of the steep trail, the rescue and care of the roads is prohibited.
2) The instructions of the staff of the Nürburgring GmbH is strictly followed.
3) Photo, film and video recordings during the current tourist trips are
normally prohibited. 4) Any kind of commercial exploitation of tourist trips require the explicit Approval by the Nürburgring GmbH driver training or instruction rides
by third parties or individuals during the tourist trips normally prohibited. This prohibition also applies to driving.
5) Familiarization tours (Guide Drive) of any kind in pairs or in a column Security risk for the rest of North Loop users and therefore prohibited. Violations will be driving with a driver for the corresponding punished.
6) In the event of a loss of annual ticket, this is within 48 hours of Nürburgring
Ltd. to issue a replacement card to be reported. If not used within 48 hours determination of the loss from a message at the Nürburgring GmbH received a replacement card will not be made available. With timely Loss gives the message Nürburgring GmbH, a replacement card. For that, a Handling fee of € 60.00 payable.
7) The Nürburgring GmbH reserves the right spot the identity of the Season tickets user to check. In the case of abuse of annual ticket (e.g. Transmission), the replacement card and without a refund of the purchase value recovered. Furthermore, it retains the Nürburgring GmbH, the relevant persons Driving to grant and abuse displayed.
8) The Nürburgring GmbH, acting in cooperation with an expert technical checks at the entrance through. Vehicles that are flawed or a hazard to other users, are popular with tourists rides excluded. Claims can not be here.
9) The route may at any time from unforeseeable reasons (eg accident, weather,
Nature trail, etc.) are immediately blocked. Claims can be not asked.

Section 8 - Penalties
For culpable violations of any kind against these general conditions for the
Running the Nürburgring is between the user and the Nürburgring GmbH
Penalty of at least € 250 (in words: two hundred and fifty) in favor
the Nürburgring GmbH agreed. By withholding of forfeited Penalty
is the assertion of a higher loss not expressly excluded. The
Users will be explicitly permitted the evidence, an injury that did not
created or substantially lower than the package. The Nürburgring GmbH reserves
the right, for violations of any kind to the user to issue driving. Nature and
Extent of driving for the various violations that may apply to the Nuerburgring
Ltd. Department.
Extract from the StVO § 3 para 1
"The drivers can only go so fast that he constantly dominated his vehicle. He
its speed in particular the roads, traffic, visual and
Weather conditions as well as his personal abilities and characteristics of
Vehicle and cargo adapt. ... "
Status: January 2008

[foggyjames]

Aye...maybe....maybe....:)

cheers

James

[Homer]

Philip, we didn't watch the video or read those last time. Just DROVE ;-) Quit being a nancy boy:-P

[Turbosteen]

Philip, we didn't watch the video or read those last time. Just DROVE ;-) Quit being a nancy boy:-P

I know, but probably more people and cars this time, including people who've never been there before. I want to know the rules if I'm driving for the first time on the Ring:-P
If you'd drive on the Ring with your car, you would probably read it as well, nancy boy:-P
BUT, please don't read it if you don't want to...:rofl:

[liquidvice]

For all the guys who are interested in going from the USA:

Send me a PM so i can start getting names down for a group rate on airfare.

Note: I am NOT planning on going to Nurmburg Ring! The distances are not resonable for a 10-12 day overseas trip. My trip will include Vallakra, Gothenburg and Köping. In between will most likely be a stop at Sten, Sellholm and possibly a couple others.

-Greg

[initialD]

love love love to go there with you guys, but don´t have enogh money :(

bad to be pour :(

[Chad242ti]

Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Even my bicycle is faster...
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Boris (Mr.Borrie) White Rice (760T)
Leon (Leon_pp) 142R by Leon
Jacob (Homer) JW's 240, cause well, it won't roll over like the 760
Chesh (Chesh740R) The 750R , if not the 940 Sport will have to suffice
Jelmar (J2_) 740 8v or 16vT, If my JohnV goodies last haha
Chad Wilson (Chad242ti --> need to change that as it's sold), N/A 245 :-(

[liquidvice]

Just to be official:

Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Even my bicycle is faster...
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Boris (Mr.Borrie) White Rice (760T)
Leon (Leon_pp) 142R by Leon
Jacob (Homer) JW's 240, cause well, it won't roll over like the 760
Chesh (Chesh740R) The 750R , if not the 940 Sport will have to suffice
Jelmar (J2_) 740 8v or 16vT, If my JohnV goodies last haha
Chad Wilson (Chad242ti --> need to change that as it's sold), N/A 245
Greg Dolgner (liquidvice) Rental that I'll be in with Rob, Mike and others.......

[MrBill]

is there an age limit on rentals? Do I have to be 25?

Also might have a buddy wanting to go also, if it gets close to the magic number or something.

[liquidvice]

You wont be able to drive. Sorry buddy.......

As far as I know I have 5 definate yes's and 4 maybe's so we are VERY close to the magic #10 for the group rate. I will check with SAS to see when I have to have all the reservations confirmed for an august trip.

-Greg

[MrBill]

no I won't be able to rent
edit:
and that's not true at all:


The minimum age for Hertz rentals in Sweden is 25 years of age for all vehicle groups.

It is however possible to rent vehicles from 19 years of age on payment of a young driver surcharge in the amount of SEK 80.00 per day (excluding tax) with a maximum charge of SEK 800.00 (excluding tax) per rental.

*** Effective 01 January 2009:

The young driver surcharge will be charged in the amount of SEK 80.00(10 mufuggin dollars aint ****) (excl. tax) per day with a maximum charge of SEK 1,200.00 (excl. tax) per rental. ***

The young driver' surcharge is not available when renting a Hertz Prestige Collection vehicle.

Requirements for corporate account customers may vary. Please contact the appropriate department.

Maybe I can rent a car through my work's travel agency :ninja:

edit2:

and in germany (where it really matters)
Mini, Economy, Compact and Midsize

Minimum age is 23 years old with a supplementary charge of EUR 19.63 (that's a bit more but it's okay) (including tax) per day with a maximum charge of EUR 196.35 (including tax) per rental.

I'll be 23 before this shiz happens. It's going down.

edit: Using my work's "travel agency" I have searched the local international rental agencies:
Available in july from hertz right now in Dusseldorf (about 1 1/2 hours north):
EBMR A VW FOX 1.4 4 / 3 /
MCMR A VW FOX 1.4 4 / 3 /
ECMR B VW POLO 1.2 5 / 5 /
CCMR C FORD FUSION 1.4 5 / 5 /
CDMR D FORD FOCUS 1.6 5 / 5 /
ICMR E VW TOURAN 1.9 5 / 5 /
IDMR E VW TOURAN 1.9 5 / 5 /
SDMR F MB C180 1.8 5 / 5 /
IWMR G PEUGEOT 407 SW 2.0D 5 / 5 /
PDMR H BMW 520 2.0D 5 / 4 /
FDAR I MERCEDES C220D 2.0 5 / 4 /
PDAR J MERCEDES C220D 2.0 5 / 4 /
XDAR K BMW 730D 2.9 NAV 5 / 4 /
SVMR L FORD TRANSIT 2.0 9 / 5 /
CCAR M MBA180D AUT 2.0 5 / 5 /
ICAR N FORD MONDEO 2.0 5 / 5 /
CPMR O RENAULT KANGOO RAPID 1.8 4 / 3 /
LVMR P MERCEDES VANO 2.2 7 / 4 /
CLMR Q VW GOLF 1.6 5 / 5 /
CBMR Q VW GOLF 1.6 5 / 5 /
CWMR R FORD FOCUS 1.6 5 / 5 /
FVMR T VW SHARON 2.0 7 / 5 /
PVMR U VW CARAVELLE 2.5D NAV 9 / 4 /
PWAR V MERCEDES E220D 5 / 5 /
ECAN X W POLO 1.3 5 / 5 /
PSAR Y MB SLK 200 1.8 2 / 2 /
XXAR Z MB S350 L3.5 NAV 5 / 4 /
PXAR A6 BMW 525 2.5 5 / 4 /
EDMD C6 PEUGEOT 206 1.4 GREEN 5 / 5 /
PDAD D6 MB E220D 5 / 4 /
XCAR E6 MERCEDES S350 3.5 5 / 4 /
LSAR F6 MERCEDES S350 L 3.5 5 / 4 /
IXMR G6 FORD MONDER TURNIER NAV 5 / 5 /
LXAR H6 BMW 730I 3.0 5 / 4 /
SXMR I6 BMW 318 2.0 NAV 5 / 4 /
IDAH M6 TOYOTA PRIUS HYBRID GREEN 5 / 5 /
ETMR O6 PEUGOUT 207 CC 1.6 3 / 4 /
LFAD P6 MERCEDES ML320 CDI 5 / 5 /
CXMR Q6 VW GOLF 1.6 NAV 5 / 5 /
CWMD R6 FORD FOCUS 1.6D GREEN 5 / 5 /
SDMD T6 BMW 320D 2.0 GREEN 5 / 4 /
SDAD U6 MERCEDES A180D GREEN 5 / 4 /
SXAR U6 MERCEDES A180D GREEN 5 / 4 /
PFMR W6 NISSAN X TRAIL 2.2 D 5 / 5 /
PFAR X6 MB ML 280D 2.8 5 / 5 /

Thrifty:
MBMN FORD KA, VW LUPO 4 / 2 / 2
ECMR OPEL CORSA 4 / 2 / 2
CCAR OPEL ASTRA 4 / 4 / 2
CCMR OPEL ASTRA 4 / 4 / 2
ICAR FORD MONDEO 5 / 4 / 3
ICMR FORD MONDEO 5 / 4 / 3
IDAR FORD MONDEO 5 / 4 / 3
IDMR FORD MONDEO 5 / 4 / 3
SCAR AUDI A4 5 / 4 / 3
SCMR AUDI A4 5 / 4 / 3
SDAR AUDI A4 5 / 4 / 3
SDMR AUDI A4 5 / 4 / 3
FCAR MERCEDES BENZ C200 5 / 4 / 3
FDAR MERCEDES BENZ C200 5 / 4 / 3
FDMR MERCEDES BENZ C200 5 / 4 / 3
PCAR AUDI A6 5 / 4 / 3
PDAR AUDI A6 5 / 4 / 3
PDMR AUDI A6 5 / 4 / 3
LCAR MERCEDES BENZ E270 5 / 4 / 3
LDAR MERCEDES BENZ E270 5 / 4 / 3
CWAR VW GOLF 5 / 4 / 4
CWMR VW GOLF 5 / 4 / 4
IWAR FORD MONDEO 5 / 4 / 4
IWMR FORD MONDEO 5 / 4 / 4
SWAR AUDI A4 AVANT 5 / 4 / 4
SWMR AUDI A4 AVANT 5 / 4 / 4
FWAR MERCEDES BENZ C200 5 / 4 / 4
FWMR MERCEDES BENZ C200 5 / 4 / 4
PWAR MERCEDES BENZ E270 5 / 4 / 4
PWMR MERCEDES BENZ E270 5 / 4 / 4
MVMR VOLKSWAGEN TOURAN 5 / 4 / 4
SVAR VW SHARAN 7 / 4 /
SVMR VW SHARAN 7 / 4 /
FVAR VW CARAVELLE 7 / 4 /
FVMR VW CARAVELLE 7 / 4 /
PVMN MERCEDES BENZ SPRINTER 9 / 4 /

fun **** is gonna happen :nod:

[frpe82]

I'll be 23 before this shiz happens. It's going down.
Good :)

[Benzine]

Philip (Turbosteen) 760 16VT POWAAAAH
Jan Willem (JW240) 240 +/-T?
Rob Prince (volvorules) Whatever rental I can get
Michael Towery (towerymt) Whatever rental Rob can get
Jan (Janspeed) 940T
Ruben (Ruben) Even my bicycle is faster...
Morley (.....) 240T/850T?
Ian Bill (mrbill) Whatever rob's trunk is like
Volvo78244 (Joris) 960 16VT
Boris (Mr.Borrie) White Rice (760T)
Leon (Leon_pp) 142R by Leon
Jacob (Homer) JW's 240, cause well, it won't roll over like the 760
Chesh (Chesh740R) The 750R , if not the 940 Sport will have to suffice
Jelmar (J2_) 740 8v or 16vT, If my JohnV goodies last haha
Chad Wilson (Chad242ti --> need to change that as it's sold), N/A 245
Greg Dolgner (liquidvice) Rental that I'll be in with Rob, Mike and others.......
Ben (Benzine) Volvo'd Indy

[foggyjames]

I plan to be there, either riding shotgun with someone, or with a mini-brick.

cheers

James

[liquidvice]

:::Stuff about car rental:::

I didn't realize there was a surcharge for a younger driver. I though it was cut and dry "no". Anyways, as I said, i dont think we're going to germany so if your willing to fork over the extra bucks just to drive (which there will be 9 other people to split with anyways) then go right ahead. I've done my fair share of driving in Sweden and am absolutly willing to be driving around and sleep. :)

-Greg

Also: Do you work for a travel agancy or some travel booking company? Maybe you can do some of my legwork.

[MrBill]

I didn't realize there was a surcharge for a younger driver. I though it was cut and dry "no". Anyways, as I said, i dont think we're going to germany so if your willing to fork over the extra bucks just to drive (which there will be 9 other people to split with anyways) then go right ahead. I've done my fair share of driving in Sweden and am absolutly willing to be driving around and sleep. :)

-Greg

Also: Do you work for a travel agancy or some travel booking company? Maybe you can do some of my legwork.

No i work for a government contractor that uses some American Express travel utility. I'll be emailing the HR dept. Monday to see if we're allowed to use the service for non-work travels. I figure if they already pay for it, why the hell not. Although something tells me I'm not going to be allowed to use it (maybe they pay per-booking?).

And I understand not wanting to go to the newburgerking, but it may be a two-day detour for me and maybe a few others with dreams of a few laps. Maybe it won't happen, but in my eyes, I cannot go to any part of Europe without doing the biggest thing that would draw me there.

[liquidvice]

No i work for a government contractor that uses some American Express travel utility. I'll be emailing the HR dept. Monday to see if we're allowed to use the service for non-work travels. I figure if they already pay for it, why the hell not. Although something tells me I'm not going to be allowed to use it (maybe they pay per-booking?).

And I understand not wanting to go to the newburgerking, but it may be a two-day detour for me and maybe a few others with dreams of a few laps. Maybe it won't happen, but in my eyes, I cannot go to any part of Europe without doing the biggest thing that would draw me there.

Does this mean that going to the largest volvo specific car show and visiting some of the most recognized tuners in the volvo world, let alone meeting 2 of the most badass 240 owners's on the planet arent worth not visiting the ring? shame on you!!! :)

-Greg

[MrBill]

I choose all of the above, and with europe's superior mass-transit system, I will do it.

[CHESH740R]

I think i'd just do the ring trip and then come back to old blighty.

Not sure if i could justify the trip up to Valkara as well as I don't think the car show was that great, the night out before hand in helsinborg was great.

But we'll see, have to see how flushed i'm feeling with cash at the time and how well the 750R is performing.

I'll also best fix the backup 940, as broke the axle tonight.:roll:

[foggyjames]

I don't think the car show was that great, the night out before hand in helsinborg was great.
Weren't these two linked? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Jesting aside, I know what you mean. It was alright...but I'm not sure it was worth the uber-drive alone. The few days with Fred and the other shinanigans, on the other hand, were...

I'll keep an eye on this, anyway.

cheers

James

[frpe82]

Weren't these two linked? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Jesting aside, I know what you mean. It was alright...but I'm not sure it was worth the uber-drive alone. The few days with Fred and the other shinanigans, on the other hand, were...

I'll keep an eye on this, anyway.

cheers

James
Oh yeah! We had a great time.

And I will probably go to both Vallåkra and the ring if they do not occur at the same dates or something.

[ipdown]

I'd rather come to Nurburgring. Please, add me to the list:

Vladislav (ipdown): 960 16vT

I hope 500-600 euros for the fuel will be enough for the trip from Bulgaria to Germany
(~2500 km one way), and then back.
But how much money should I prepare for the event time in Germany?
I hope an 1K euro budget will be enough for the whole thingy?
How many days is the meet? Hotels nearby? Any sugestions?
Oh. Are there any pics or videos from previous meetings? It would be nice to see if any.
I am planning to come with a friend of mine. I will come with my 960 16vT of course.
On its own.:cool:

[volvo78244]

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=126394&highlight=eurotrip

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=142385&highlight=europe+trip

Check those links for pics of last year. Last year I bought a 4-lap ticket together with Fred for 70€, some food and drinks. So nothing to expensive, the trip over there was the most expensive. The dutch crew and myself got together the day before the trip and then the day itself.

[ipdown]

Nice nice. It would be really great to meet so many volvo nuts in there.
Anyway, I am coming for sure if the progressive financial crisis don't mess up
the things really seriously.

[Wagner]

When will the date be decided upon?

I checked through Via Michelin, and it seems it's a hair under 1500 km from Stockholm to Nurburg.

I'd also like to hear of the Swedes who did this run last year, what route did you guys go through? Via michelin suggest to drive from Stockholm to Jonköping and from there Malmö, continue over to Denmark and then a boat link from Denmark to Germany.

Another option for me might be a direct boat link from Helsinki to Germany, but that would be both slow and i'm pretty sure quite expensive.

What did everyone do/use for accommodation last year?

Any other tips or things about this trip are very welcome.

And also, when will the date be decided?

[frpe82]

When will the date be decided upon?
This spring I suppose. We already have an idea about which weeks are suitable now I guess. That makes it easier to plan the vacations.

I checked through Via Michelin, and it seems it's a hair under 1500 km from Stockholm to Nurburg.

I'd also like to hear of the Swedes who did this run last year, what route did you guys go through? Via michelin suggest to drive from Stockholm to Jonköping and from there Malmö, continue over to Denmark and then a boat link from Denmark to Germany.

Another option for me might be a direct boat link from Helsinki to Germany, but that would be both slow and i'm pretty sure quite expensive.
I was the only Swede there.

I did not drive directly to Nürburg. I drove to JW240's place in Holland. Then we drove there later on.

And the route to take is through Denmark (over all three bridges), then the shortest route via the Autobahn. That is the route I have taken both times I went to Holland.

What did everyone do/use for accommodation last year?
See response above.

I really don't know where to stay around there either.

[Wagner]

Thanks for the info Fred.

I guess it's going to be hotel then, it seems that the very city of Nürbug has many to choose from, and if that fails Bonn is only 70km from Nürburg, Köln not much further up. Those should be cities big enough to have hotel rooms available.

And i'm sure that the smaller cities near Nürburg have hotels as well. Too bad that Ich sprechen nicht deutch.

I really hope i can arrange it so that i could do this this year, sounds like a lot of fun, the nordschleife does.

But the sooner the date is set, the easier it will be to find a free room for reasonable amount of money.

Fred, did you drive to Holland in one day? How long did it take you?

I'm already planning on what would be the best way to drive there (germany), and i have no idea if i can even participate yet. :-D

[frpe82]

Fred, did you drive to Holland in one day? How long did it take you?
I have visited JW240 several times. He is a good friend of mine.

It takes 14 hours to drive the 1300-ish kilometers to JW's place (including stops to eat and fill up with fuel etc.). It usually takes less time to get home (12 hours or so because the roads in Denmark and Sweden are pretty free at night).

[Fivehundred]

When I drive down from Gothenburg I tend to take the Malmo to Copenhagen bridge and then drop straight down and take the Rodby to Puttgarden ferry. It's about 150km shorter than taking the bridge route. The ferry was only 20 Euros when I took it last time.

This spring I suppose. We already have an idea about which weeks are suitable now I guess. That makes it easier to plan the vacations.


I was the only Swede there.

I did not drive directly to Nürburg. I drove to JW240's place in Holland. Then we drove there later on.

And the route to take is through Denmark (over all three bridges), then the shortest route via the Autobahn. That is the route I have taken both times I went to Holland.


See response above.

I really don't know where to stay around there either.

[Wagner]

When I drive down from Gothenburg I tend to take the Malmo to Copenhagen bridge and then drop straight down and take the Rodby to Puttgarden ferry. It's about 150km shorter than taking the bridge route. The ferry was only 20 Euros when I took it last time.

That's the route that Via Michelin suggest also if you want to go straight to Nürburg. Do you happen to know how often the ferry goes over?

[Wagner]

I have visited JW240 several times. He is a good friend of mine.

It takes 14 hours to drive the 1300-ish kilometers to JW's place (including stops to eat and fill up with fuel etc.). It usually takes less time to get home (12 hours or so because the roads in Denmark and Sweden are pretty free at night).

14 hours from Göteborg to Holland, where ever Jan lives in there. (I believe it's quite close to German border?).

That's not too bad.

[Fivehundred]

That's the route that Via Michelin suggest also if you want to go straight to Nürburg. Do you happen to know how often the ferry goes over?

No, but it is frequent, I've never waited for more than about 15 minutes just turning up. It's a pretty short crossing, just enough time for a bite to eat and you're across. It's not a bad route as it also means you shirt the worst of the huge traffic jam that is Hamburg.

Actually 40 odd crossings a day, it takes 45 minutes.

http://www.scandlines.de/en/cargo/service/orders/files/fe_pr.pdf

[Wagner]

No, but it is frequent, I've never waited for more than about 15 minutes just turning up. It's a pretty short crossing, just enough time for a bite to eat and you're across. It's not a bad route as it also means you shirt the worst of the huge traffic jam that is Hamburg.

Actually 40 odd crossings a day, it takes 45 minutes.

http://www.scandlines.de/en/cargo/service/orders/files/fe_pr.pdf

Great info, thanks for the link.

[volvo78244]

From JW's place it's 200km to the Nürburg, so is it from my place I'm only a litlle bit more to the south.

[Leon_pp]

Someone have date of the vrom this year?

[Turbosteen]

Someone have date of the vrom this year?

Not yet I think.
I searched the official site for some dates (just examples, but I did look @ days with opening hours from 08:00 to 19:30)

- Sunday 19 july
- Saturday 25 july
- Sunday 26 july
- Saturday 15 august

there are a lot more ''touristenfahrten'', but from 11:00, or 14:30 to 19:30
Dunno what everybody wants, weekend or not.

[Turbosteen]

Ok, I'll pick a date:-D

Saturday 25 july 2009. (Unless people don't want an entire day @ the ring, than we have lots and lots of possibilities...)

[volvo78244]

Philip

that is the perfect date for me, just in the middle of my holiday.

BTW I might not bring the 16VT after all, my 242 should be ready end of April. No further specs yet :)

[Wagner]

Summer's closing in on us fast, lucky us.

So is the date set, agreed upon, locked, decided, and chosen?

What is the general plan for this meet, i mean what is the big picture of things?

[Mr.Borrie]

+1

[JW240]

well, i haven't heard any complaints about the date, so it could be fixed to that date.
We decided for a weekend because the track opens really early in the weekends (opposed to weekdays), so we can have a non-crowded track if we are early enough.

The plan?
A day before the ring, a dinner/bbq/hanging around, wrenching.
Nurburgring the next day.
Next days undecided... last year we did soms more wrenching and visited local sightseeing stuff etc.
I heard idea's of visiting a track in the Netherlands too (Zandvoort), Boris mentioned that.

open to suggestions!

[Turbosteen]

I know Ruben said Sunday 26th was better for him, and I don't really care since that's only a day later..

Zandvoort sounds nice, open to suggestions!

[Ruben]

Yes, 26th works better for me. Or the V3C should want to come down to the Nordschleife as well on the 25th.

[Janspeed]

26th is fine with me as well.
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Who's car is this then that's getting passed by Sabine in the Ring-taxi?? @ 2:18
hey? hey? It look deceptively like a 242T with Polaris rims. It is! It's Chad's old car! Now owned by Ruben!
Fredrik's old 945T is being passed @ 0:44 while hangs behind a black Porsche GT3. And my car is getting passed @ 2:34 while i wait for Chad to catch up.
This must have been the very first lap that day because it was still dry and we are not really going that fast.
Reminds me, Ruben, you must change the brakefluid in the 242T if you are taking it to the Ring in July, it had boiling fading brakes after only half a lap...

[Ruben]

26th is fine with me as well.
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Who's car is this then that's getting passed by Sabine in the Ring-taxi?? @ 2:18
hey? hey? It look deceptively like a 242T with Polaris rims. It is! It's Steve's old car! Now owned by Ruben!
And my car is getting passed @ 2:34.
This must have been one of the first laps that day because it was still dry and we are not really going that fast.
Reminds me, Ruben, you must change the brakefluid in the 242T if you are taking it to the Ring in July, it had boiling fading brakes after only half a lap...

Steve= Chad:p

Yes, I will change the fluid and maybe upgrade some other parts.

[Mr.Borrie]

that clip shows what kind of a track it really is!

[Alex Buchka]

I'd love to join you guys at the ring but I'll probably be in the states for the entire month of July and most of August. I'm looking to get a flight back to Sweden in time for Vallåkra though.

[Janspeed]

Steve= Chad:p

Yes, I will change the fluid and maybe upgrade some other parts.

Fixed, (sorry Chad, somehow i remebered Steve.)

[volvo78244]

That was the first lap we did, Jan outrunning Chad and Fred (with me on board) trying to catch up. The GT3 we were behind was a woman driving, we overtook a Porsche :cool:

[frpe82]

It was a great day indeed, even though we didn't do many laps.

It is nice to have these memories. Makes me all warm and fuzzy on the inside :-D

[Turbosteen]

Nice video, I think I'd be happy when I can drive my 760 in 30 minutes round the track...
BTW: If it's too crowded on the track I won't even try.. need to get more circuit driving experience first...

Makes me all warm and fuzzy on the inside
Whaha

[Janspeed]

if you want me to drive it around while you sit in the passenger seat i'd be happy to oblige!:lol:
i hve no doubt your car can do a sub-10min lap when it's finished. And believe me, that's pretty quick for a streetcar.

[JW240]

It is nice to have these memories. Makes me all warm and fuzzy on the inside :-D

like stroopwafels?

cool vid!

just a reminder for everyone (including me), especially those who never drove there (again, also me), watch out: oops (http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/ringers/whoops/index.html).

if you want me to drive it around while you sit in the passenger seat i'd be happy to oblige!:lol:
i hve no doubt your car can do a sub-10min lap when it's finished. And believe me, that's pretty quick for a streetcar.

im happy when my 240 (not the 760) would be 15 with me driving :-P (and im not going to make that i guess, its probably a good idea not to time the laps hehe)

[frpe82]

like stroopwafels?
Exactly.

[Chad242ti]

I look forward to another fun day at the ring. Both 25th and 26th work for me...

Janspeed, no problem... I have trouble remember the names of my 3 children every day, let alone all the volvo guys I met last year at the ring...



Chad

[Turbosteen]

Janspeed, no problem... I have trouble remember the names of my 3 children every day, let alone all the volvo guys I met last year at the ring...


:rofl:

[Chad242ti]

What ever happened to the in car video from last year?

[Janspeed]

I think BlaBla (Martijn) has made an edited DVD but i actually have never seen that vid...
So, Martijn, if you are reading this, why not dump the vid online? So we can all watch it.

[JW240]

I think BlaBla (Martijn) has made an edited DVD but i actually have never seen that vid...
So, Martijn, if you are reading this, why not dump the vid online? So we can all watch it.

the in-car footage is on our cam, i never had the space on my HD to edit it (and the dvd burner of my laptop is broken). With the new external HD i have enough space, will upload the footage in the next few weeks.

[Mr.Borrie]

i think blabla (martijn) has made an edited dvd but i actually have never seen that vid...
So, martijn, if you are reading this, why not dump the vid online? So we can all watch it.

the in-car footage is on our cam, i never had the space on my hd to edit it (and the dvd burner of my laptop is broken). With the new external hd i have enough space, will upload the footage in the next few weeks.

+100

[Janspeed]

Cool!:cool:

[ipdown]

Will be very nice to see it :). Why not upload it to youtube?

[volvorsport]

im at the nurburgring tomorrow , in the works van!!!

[volvorsport]

done !!!!

got me sticker . 15 mins for a lap .

[frpe82]

done !!!!

got me sticker . 15 mins for a lap .
In the van?

[J2_]

Looks like my car will be track-ready :nod:
Cojones should come too !!

This thread needs moar MisterrrrrBilll;

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/4/19/128846566339352515.jpg

[volvorsport]

In the van?

yip , most hilarious .

[frpe82]

yip , most hilarious .
What did you manage then? 18 or less?

[Mr.Borrie]

i think i did around 10 minutes in the 960 .. then again i did not time myself.. wonder how i will do with white rice

[volvo78244]

i think i did around 10 minutes in the 960 .. then again i did not time myself.. wonder how i will do with white rice

I don't want to attack your driving skills Boris, but I think we would have "80 second" minutes. I thought last year we did around 14-15 minutes for a round, if I'm not mistaking.

If you make it in 10 minutes (60 second minutes :) ) I will buy you a beer :nod:

[Mr.Borrie]

I don't want to attack your driving skills Boris, but I think we would have "80 second" minutes. I thought last year we did around 14-15 minutes for a round, if I'm not mistaking.

If you make it in 10 minutes (60 second minutes :) ) I will buy you a beer :nod:

Like i said i did not time it myself my former GF did. But yeah i should not have posted that up with no evidence on TB :lol:..
We'll see this summer what the real time is for me with White-Rice if she still runs then :-P probably no where near what i assumed

[Mr.Borrie]

BTW thinking of that day I got laped one lap by this car so yeah probably not even close :rofl:

http://www.car-catalog.com/sports_cars/lamborghini_murcielago.jpg
that guy was insane though.. the ass hole that i was i did not give him too much room (but enough) on a straight he just went on going steered in towards my mirror missing it by maybe a inch

[volvorsport]

according to teh lads i did 15 mins in teh van !.

possibly wasnt that accurate .

[frpe82]

according to teh lads i did 15 mins in teh van !.

possibly wasnt that accurate .
Depends on the van of course.

And you can probably drive half-decent as well, right?

[volvorsport]

half decent ?

maybe - maybe not depending who is in the passenger seat .

[frpe82]

half decent ?

maybe - maybe not depending who is in the passenger seat .
Yeah... It was a bit of sarcasm you know. :-P

I think you can drive pretty good.

[Leon_pp]

I made some lap last year with a friend and his BMW 2002Ti "Alpina replica" something like 8'50 a lap. 2/3 of the lap the red light of the ignition Warning at 6800rpm was on.
Something very impressive, this year i have to try with another friend with his Ur Quattro, with S2 race engine. Something like 400HP with AWD :)

Humm

My 142R will be ready for this sumer, next week end i will go to Magny-cours (ex French F1 GP track) with it, first try :)

[Janspeed]

my RingBrick checklist:
done:
- install new clutch < check
- install new front tires < check
- check brake rotors < OK
- check calipers + padwear < greased sliding pins, cleaned pad area so pads can move freely inside caliper.
- check level and quality of brake fluid < check, OK
- install downpipe2gearbox bracket < check
- tighten downpipe2turbine nuts < check
- weld outside cover of cathalytic convertor < check (as of this year Ring track management is cracking down on excessive exhaust dB's!! If you want to drive your car on the Ring, it better be quiet! 95dB max.)
- check rear alu tractionarm2axel bolts for tightness < check. (these tend to work loose over time on all live axel 700/900's!)
- cut front springs: -30mm + even more caster: win!

still2do:
- install M90 speedshifter.:oogle: (pending delivery)


might do:
- get front alignment.
- install Cossie T3 + downpipe + 3"cat?? (depending on available time/finances and delivery of oilline.)

[JW240]

my RingBrick checklist:
.....


I wish my list was that short.... it is 3 pages in word (pt 12).
in short:
suspension (new shocks+springs+bushings+strut mounts+balljoints etc), already have all parts
brakes: ate super blue fluid, new hoses (goodridge), rebuild one caliper and modify backing plates.
drivetrain: too much too list, essentially finish +T and some left over stage 0 stuff, make downpipe, modify intercooler, install apc, install squirters, replace waterpump, replace exhaust studs, finish porting 90+, weld cracked 90+, make new IC piping, finish JAW, install M90, replace driveshaft center bearing. and more.. 95% of the parts are waiting patiently.

:-P

[Ruben]

Since I will come by bicycle my list is very short:
-check tyre pressure
-bring enough kcal's
-make JW take my bicycle to the ring
:lol:

Can I +T a bicycle? Maybe I should do that...

[JW240]

Since I will come by bicycle my list is very short:
-check tyre pressure
-bring enough kcal's
-make JW take my bicycle to the ring
:lol:

01 – 02 August 2009: Bike & Run the Ring
http://www.nuerburgring.de/Bike-Run-the-Ring.356.0.html
someone i know is doing that, maybe you could join :lol:

btw, make sure the sidepipe isn't too loud :-P

[Ruben]

Since when does my bicycle have a sidepipe? Maybe if I attach 3" piping to my a**hole, don't think I will reach 95db on natural gas:lol::lol::lol:

We'll see how loud it is.

[Turbosteen]

my RingBrick checklist...


- Mount wiring loom in car
- New oil (5W-50)
- Fit the 17' steelies with new tyres
- Put the front right strut and wheel on it:-P
- Close some speedholes
- Get the paperwork changed...

Most essential part (brakes) are in perfect order:oogle:

[Homer]

Plane ticket prices are down to 800$. Someone set up a donation fund!

[Turbosteen]

Plane ticket prices are down to 800$. Someone set up a donation fund!

That's like €10,-:rofl:

[Mr.Borrie]

dont wanna think off all the crap i NEED to do.. i'll come anyway :P

[Mr.Borrie]

so could we go ahead and set the date.. i wanna plan this thing already

[Turbosteen]

Read:-P

26th is the date a few of us agreed on so far..

[Mr.Borrie]

yeah but is this the date we plan around or will it change, i say we put it down in the first post as a fact

[frpe82]

yeah but is this the date we plan around or will it change, i say we put it down in the first post as a fact
Done.

[JW240]

yeah but is this the date we plan around or will it change, i say we put it down in the first post as a fact

sorry, i cant resist:

http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/images/2007/12/15/internettruth.jpg

It is already a fact!

[Mr.Borrie]

why does the "yes" on "did you put the statement on the internet yet" back to "Is the statement on the internet" and not directly to "it's the truth" ?

[Eyssej]

J.W. can i come and bring some pie ?...

[frpe82]

why does the "yes" on "did you put the statement on the internet yet" back to "Is the statement on the internet" and not directly to "it's the truth" ?
Don't argue. The next thing you know the men in white coats will come get you in a darked out van without any plates, and have you rectally probed. :ninja:

[Mr.Borrie]

Don't argue. The next thing you know the men in white coats will come get you in a darked out van without any plates, and have you rectally probed. :ninja:

not the intertube people again

[JW240]

not the intertube people again

people on the internet are not real, don't forget that!

[Mr.Borrie]

people on the internet are not real, don't forget that!

yes i know

be silent... there here.....

[Eyssej]

JW !!! GRRRRRRRRRRR..........:mods:

[Sander]

I might show up in my Volvo 480ES as my 740 is in bits all over the house around the time of the meeting

[Homer]

people on the internet are not real, don't forget that!

I thought that when you guys were coming to pick me up in dusseldorf:rofl:

[Turbosteen]

Ok, what's the news? Any updates? Only 7 weeks people!:-D

[frpe82]

Ok, what's the news? Any updates? Only 7 weeks people!:-D
As I already told JW, this is what will happen for me:

I work until Friday afternoon (24th).

I will drive down to you guys on the morning of the 25th.

I will arrive around 20.00-21.00 at night. Maybe earlier if I can get to bed early on Friday.

[Turbosteen]

As I already told JW, this is what will happen for me:

I work until Friday afternoon (24th).

I will drive down to you guys on the morning of the 25th.

I will arrive around 20.00-21.00 at night. Maybe earlier if I can get to bed early on Friday.

Yeah, JW told me that.

What about UK/US people?

[liquidvice]

Yeah, JW told me that.

What about UK/US people?

I dont think any of us are coming for the ring trip. Me, my gf, Rob P. and Mike T. are going to Vallakra and doing a northern trip.

-Greg

[Turbosteen]

Ok

we're gonna end up with the same people like last year:lol:
We do have a few more dutch people this time I guess (not on the list/tb)
Fred can start updating the list in the first post

[frpe82]

Ok

we're gonna end up with the same people like last year:lol:
We do have a few more dutch people this time I guess (not on the list/tb)
Fred can start updating the list in the first post
What should I update it with?

Are there some people I have missed?

[Mr.Borrie]

seems a few are not coming anymore

[frpe82]

seems a few are not coming anymore
Who?

[Ruben]

Yes who? White Rice?

[Mr.Borrie]

Yes who? White Rice?

I though the UK guys... White-Rice will be there !

[Janspeed]

i will be there, solid commitment. i need my Ring-fix, badly!

[Turbosteen]

This thread is about the Nordschleife, the Vallokra (?) thing has its own thread. So people who are going to Vallokra should not be on the list for the Nordschleife....
Is it that hard?

[towerymt]

Rob Prince (volvorules): Whatever rental he can get
Michael Towery (towerymt): Whatever rental Rob can get
Ian Bill (mrbill): Whatever rob's trunk is like
Jacob (Homer): JW's 240, cause well, it won't roll over like the 760 :rofl:
Greg Dolgner (liquidvice): Rental that I'll be in with Rob, Mike and others.......
None of those listed will be there. I don't think Homer is going to Europe and I know Ian flaked out with the lack of nurburgring in the plan for the rest of us from the states. Rob, Greg, and I are headed to Sweden/Denmark instead of Deutschland.

[frpe82]

Edited the first post.

[Homer]

None of those listed will be there. I don't think Homer is going to Europe

This might change if I get this job. Then I will be able to go.

[Turbosteen]

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:omg:

[Mr.Borrie]

wow lol that dude was checking his car there?

[Mr.Borrie]

So how about a week later or earlier .. dont think i can make it

[Turbosteen]

So how about a week later or earlier .. dont think i can make it

Montag, 27.07.09 17:15 bis 19:30 Uhr Touristenfahrten
Dienstag, 28.07.09 17:15 bis 19:30 Uhr Touristenfahrten
Mittwoch, 29.07.09 17:15 bis 19:30 Uhr Touristenfahrten
18:00 bis 20:00 Uhr Touristenfahrten, (Grand-Prix-Strecke)
Donnerstag, 30.07.09 17:15 bis 19:30 Uhr Touristenfahrten
Freitag, 31.07.09 17:15 bis 19:30 Uhr Touristenfahrten
Samstag, 01.08.09 08:00 bis 18:00 Uhr Rad & Run am Ring
Sonntag, 02.08.09 08:00 bis 18:00 Uhr Rad & Run am Ring
Mittwoch, 05.08.09 17:15 bis 19:30 Uhr Touristenfahrten
Donnerstag, 06.08.09 17:15 bis 19:30 Uhr Touristenfahrten
Freitag, 07.08.09 08:00 bis 18:00 Uhr AvD-Oldtimer-Grand-Prix (Grand-Prix-Strecke)
Samstag, 08.08.09 08:00 bis 18:00 Uhr AvD-Oldtimer-Grand-Prix (Grand-Prix-Strecke)
11:00 bis 19:30 Uhr Touristenfahrten

So, after Sunday 26th of july, the 8th of august is the first proper possibility to drivew on the ring (open all day instead of in the evening)

And before the 26th isn't possible either, because Fredrik arrives Saturday evening..

I'm afraid it will stay with the 26th (no other options really...)

[Mr.Borrie]

Dam looks like i wont make it then

[frpe82]

Dam looks like i wont make it then
Why? What has come between?

[Mr.Borrie]

Why? What has come between?

Like last year i totally forgot my sis birthday shame on me.. but i talked to my parents and they are sure she'll understand i wont be there for the kinda big party she's trowing.

I have been bragging about the ring for like forever so that might help in my advantage

[Ruben]

To your sister to the Ring as well. Problem solved....

[Mr.Borrie]

Cancelled my sis party, im there

[JW240]

Cancelled my sis party, im there

:cool:

good to be back.

[Mr.Borrie]

More and more friends are backing out of the holiday we where planning to a party island so i'm considering to take it upon myself to roadtrip a bit trough germany maybe another country after the meet instead of spending my cash on a sun holiday

[J2_]

If my car doesn't blow up on the dyno.. I will be there with the 740.

or else I think I'll bring some other piece of **** I have standing around. :lol:

[CHESH740R]

Thought about doing a real long day to be there for this, but to be honest the thought of driving the 940 round the track doesnt appeal enough for me to do the 1000mile round trip.

Instead i'll put the money saved towards finish the 750 off in august.

[volvorsport]

its a shame it couldnt be organised fro a bit later , i could have made it .

BUT , the missus drops tomorrow , so its out of my hands for 6 weeks or so .

[Chad242ti]

I'm also up to meeting other t-brickers if they want to make the trip later this summer or fall.

Let me know

Chad

[Mr.Borrie]

Found out that the one of my friends that was going to drive 2 other friends of mine backed out today
So i'll take them with me on the 25th and ill drive straight too the ring and get a place to sleep there like a gasthoff or zimmerfrei.

[Leon_pp]

So guys, D-6

Some news about organisation of the day?
BBQ somewhere? Which hour in the morning?
If someone arrive by Luxembourg/france, it is on my way.
I probably take the trailor and 142 on it, and take the road sunday early morning.

[volvo78244]

I guess day planning will be about the same as last year, meet up at the ring at about 10 in the morning, say hello to everyone and check out their rides, take the first set of laps, get something to eat, watch other rides (quite something to see, lets hope no-one gets allergic to GT3's :lol:), get another sets of laps, talk about how we got around and by then the day will be almost over.

My 242 is almost ready, shocks will be in tomorrow, reassemble and take it for a spin, which will be the first decent one in almost 6 months.

[frpe82]

My brake discs and pads won't arrive for another month or so (stupid Brembo factory and the financial crisis). So i will have to take it easy on the ring this time.

It will be fun anyway though.

[Mr.Borrie]

brakes are for pussy's you only need speed! :lol:

[Mr.Borrie]

My ignorance on breaks cost me today, when changing the studs i came to realise that my breakpads are down to minimun so i'm swaping new ones in right now :lol:

[Chad242ti]

Here's a link with some helpful info about the Nurburgring Nordscheife. http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/


Those who have not been before should read it.

Those who have been before should probably read it too...

[volvorsport]

most disturbing about the ring is lack of 3rd party cover , EU law makes the insurance company pay out , but if in the terms and conditions theres some exclusions the insurance company can come directly for you .

so if you just happen to collect a GT3 , put him in the armco , and in hospital , and its your fault , thats a 100k your probably looking at !!

[Leon_pp]

Think that nordscheife is not a track, is a paying highway.
So your are on a road. There are 2 section where the speed is limited, and where the police love to put a radar.

You can NOT use slick tires because there are not street legal.

[Mr.Borrie]

Here's a link with some helpful info about the Nurburgring Nordscheife. http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/


Those who have not been before should read it.

Those who have been before should probably read it too...

You happen to have an idea if there are any good pubs/clubs you can go to at night? im coming with a bunch of friends who like to party too .. i guess its not a option but worth a try to ask

[Dirk242]

I think there are just a few local pubs. Check this site (Click (http://www.ring-world.nl/)). This dude knows everything about the ring. There's a lot of information on his site.

I wanna join too btw. My holiday is cancelled. Do you come together in Holland too or does everybody meet at the ring? I didn't read the whole thread.

[Eyssej]

You happen to have an idea if there are any good pubs/clubs you can go to at night? im coming with a bunch of friends who like to party too .. i guess its not a option but worth a try to ask


Drink and Drive
you really want to die?

[Mr.Borrie]

I think there are just a few local pubs. Check this site (Click (http://www.ring-world.nl/)). This dude knows everything about the ring. There's a lot of information on his site.

I wanna join too btw. My holiday is cancelled. Do you come together in Holland too or does everybody meet at the ring? I didn't read the whole thread.

I'm leaving the 25th for Germany just take it slow and get a hotel/hostel whatever is cheap near the ring, next day is the meet at the ring some peep join up at JW's place early in the morning (around 6!) the rest will be there around 10 when the track opens.

You'r welcome to join the White-Rice crew on th 25th if you promise not the spin in front of me like last time :lol:

Drink and Drive
you really want to die?

I'd never! but the at night its okay when i dont drive

[Eyssej]

I'm leaving the 25th for Germany just take it slow and get a hotel/hostel whatever is cheap near the ring, next day is the meet at the ring some peep join up at JW's place early in the morning (around 6!) the rest will be there around 10 when the track opens.

You'r welcome to join the White-Rice crew on th 25th if you promise not the spin in front of me like last time :lol:



I'd never! but the at night its okay when i dont drive
hahah lol,
well just don't die, i need you wen you come back ;-)

[Dirk242]

You'r welcome to join the White-Rice crew on th 25th if you promise not the spin in front of me like last time :lol:
Haha, I won't. You have to drive on the edge when you wanna be the first :-P.

I will join the the club @ JW's place. See you in Germany.

[Ruben]

I will join the the club @ JW's place. See you in Germany.

Those gathering a JW's place and those who don't but will take the same motorway should meet at a petrol station so we can drive together to the Ring.
Maybe first petrol station on the A/E... at xx:xx AM?

[Ruben]

hahah lol,
well just don't die, i need you wen you come back ;-)

You should come, he might need a guardian angel watching his back!

[Janspeed]

0600am is a bit early, it's only 2.5hr driving from JW's place and that's driving normal speeds. No need to get there 0800am when the track opens at 1000am

btw they introduced a new ticket system, it's based on a chipcard you can reuse/reload. It must also be used in the restaurant if you want to buy a drink. cash is no longer used. if you are not planning on revisiting the ring in the ame year, use all value on the card cause it is not tranferable to next year.

[Eyssej]

You should come, he might need a guardian angel watching his back!

Lol, next year this year i am not aloud...

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[Mr.Borrie]

Been there!

[Eyssej]

Been there!

I spinned the agila one's :oops: a little:oops:

[frpe82]

JW: Should I come to Geijsteren tomorrow, or the other place?

[Mr.Borrie]

fred! you got a old gatbilar for me? :cool:

[Eyssej]

JW: Should I come to Geijsteren tomorrow, or the other place?

can you pick me up on you way :roll:

[Homer]

Goddamnit, I'm at work. I wish I could be there.

[Turbosteen]

JW: Should I come to Geijsteren tomorrow, or the other place?

Yes, Geijsteren it is

[Ruben]

Those gathering a JW's place and those who don't but will take the same motorway should meet at a petrol station so we can drive together to the Ring.
Maybe first petrol station on the A/E... at xx:xx AM?

?!

[Eyssej]

hello someone pick me up :wave:

[Mr.Borrie]

The place to navigate to is:

Otto-Flimm-Straße
D - 53520 Nürburg


correct?

[Eyssej]

The place to navigate to is:

Otto-Flimm-Straße
D - 53520 Nürburg


correct?

akendamstraat
haarlem

[Benzine]

I couldn't get my MK Indy ready in time so I bought a 940 instead :-P

[frpe82]

Yes, Geijsteren it is
Yeah. I mean coming to your house. Not to the other villa where we slept last summer.

[Ruben]

Ok I'm probably the only Southern guy who will join the party. No gathering/meeting at a petrol station needed.

Can we get everything a bit more definite?!

Should we say that we all meet at the track between 10.00-11.00AM!!!

[frpe82]

I will finish packing the rest of my clothes, and then go to sleep. I will get up at around 6:30 tomorrow and get going around 7:00-7:30.

It will take between 11 and 14 hours depending on many times I have to stop.

I will call you tomorrow when I have been on the road for some time.

[Mr.Borrie]

The place to navigate to is:

Otto-Flimm-Straße
D - 53520 Nürburg


correct?
bump this is correct