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Volvo Thief
01-20-2009, 02:14 PM
Need help understanding spacers.

Im interested in these Ronal wheels in 17 inch for my 90 744ti. They are available in 5x112, 5x114.3, 5x115, 5x120.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9903/r28et13al5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/r28et13al5.jpg/1/w300.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img141/r28et13al5.jpg/1/)


What size would I have to get and what spacers or adapters would I need?

Mueller
01-20-2009, 02:25 PM
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=101

not enough information....you need to know the offset of the wheel and the width

Volvo Thief
01-20-2009, 02:35 PM
Ok I just looked again, ABOVE are 17x18.5, ET 0-13mm. These may be too wide anyway?

But I just found some 16x7.5 but they are not the "deep dish" same style though ET 0-42mm. Will these fit better?

Chris_R
01-20-2009, 02:35 PM
Check out my thread on spaced wheels here:
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=156487

Offset is the tricky part really. Where are they listed? What offsets are you looking at?

Redwood Chair
01-20-2009, 02:39 PM
Ok I just looked again, ABOVE are 17x18.5, ET 0-13mm. These may be too wide anyway?

But I just found some 16x7.5 but they are not the "deep dish" same style though ET 0-42mm. Will these fit better?

Your offset on a 700 is 25 mm.
To change bolt patterns the spacers must be at least 20 mm thick.
This puts the desired offset at 25+20 or 45 minimum if you want to keep the track the same.

Volvo Thief
01-20-2009, 02:39 PM
http://www.ronal.com.mx/estilo%20de%20ruedas_archivos/rin%20r28_archivos/r28.htm

I don't even know if they are still available. I really want some Galaxy wheels but seem very hard to come by and probably more expensive.

Volvo Thief
01-20-2009, 02:44 PM
Check out my thread on spaced wheels here:
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=156487

Offset is the tricky part really. Where are they listed? What offsets are you looking at?

Helpful yes. Thanks

Chris_R
01-20-2009, 03:03 PM
Too bad about those Ronals - they look awesome. If they made them in 5x108 and you got them at the 13mm offset you'd have 13mm less inner clearance and 37mm more outer. The outer would be doable, but the inner probably wouldn't clear.

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
Hydras are 6.5" wide with a 25mm offset.

elmer fudd
01-20-2009, 08:56 PM
what if you used these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__Set-of-4-5x100-OR-5x108-to-5x4-5-Wheel-Adapters_W0QQitemZ260286462282QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ 20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZVie wItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?_trks id=p4506.m20.l1116 and some 5X113.4mm (aka 4.50inch) wheels add 31.75 mm to the given offset.

so 5X114.3 x 8 by 37ish offset would keep the inside the same as the stock wheel and push out the rest of the extra wheel. with the adapters. giveing you 1.5 out tourd your fender.

what is the proper 8 inch wide offset with 5x408? with out any spacers or adapters. that would make this way easyer for me.


BTW. http://www.bigcustomwheels.com/info_specs.jsp ;-)

elmer fudd
01-20-2009, 09:11 PM
ok found it . on IPD

"
17x7.5 inch wheel
5x108 bolt pattern with 20mm offset"
they added 8mm tourd the drive line, and shocks and struts and components. so I will use that as the safe mark.

so 17x8 would be a offset of 14mm.

so then if you wanted to use those adapters to use 114.3 wheels(way more available then 5x408) your total offset would be 14+31.75 44.75 or roughly 45mm.

so a 114.3 wheel with a 8 inch width and a 45 et with adapters. would give you 30.1 mm of poke and would fit perfectly other wise. or in layman terms your wheel would stick out 1.18503937 inches or 30.1 mm. and other then maybe a slight fender roll they would be fine.


so these- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-...4506.m20.l1116

plus these - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/17-ROTA-BOOST-RIM-WHEELS-5X114-3-RSX-ACCORD-MAZDA-3-5-6_W0QQitemZ350155213743QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_C ar_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item350155213743&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

work. but are not hubcentric.

Mueller
01-20-2009, 09:16 PM
what if you used these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__Set-of-4-5x100-OR-5x108-to-5x4-5-Wheel-Adapters_W0QQitemZ260286462282QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ 20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZVie wItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?_trks id=p4506.m20.l1116 and some 5X113.4mm (aka 4.50inch) wheels add 31.75 mm to the given offset.

so 5X114.3 x 8 by 37ish offset would keep the inside the same as the stock wheel and push out the rest of the extra wheel. with the adapters. giveing you 1.5 out tourd your fender.

what is the proper 8 inch wide offset with 5x408? with out any spacers or adapters. that would make this way easyer for me.


BTW. http://www.bigcustomwheels.com/info_specs.jsp ;-)

neat, never seen an offset calculator.....

see link below, that rim supposed to be a direct fit with a 20mm offset

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/searchWheelsByVehicleAndSize.do?bp=&rcz=94531&yr=1991&wd=17&rw=&vid=002240&rc=CEBINT

my 17*8's have a 5mm offset

Greg Wong
01-20-2009, 09:17 PM
Do you have a source for these wheels? Ronal no longer makes wheels for the aftermarket.

Mueller
01-20-2009, 09:22 PM
ok found it . on IPD

"
17x7.5 inch wheel
5x108 bolt pattern with 20mm offset"
they added 8mm tourd the drive line, and shocks and struts and components. so I will use that as the safe mark.

so 17x8 would be a offset of 14mm.

so then if you wanted to use those adapters to use 114.3 wheels(way more available then 5x408) your total offset would be 14=31.75 44.75 or roughly 45mm.

so a 114.3 wheel with a 8 inch width and a 45 et with adapters. would give you 30.1 mm of poke . or in layman terms your wheel would stick out 1.18503937 inches or 30.1 mm.

sorry, you have it wrong,,,,,a 45mm offset 8" wide rim would fit too far inboard, in fact I doubt it would clear the strut housing

elmer fudd
01-20-2009, 09:24 PM
sorry, you have it wrong,,,,,a 45mm offset 8" wide rim would fit too far inboard, in fact I doubt it would clear the strut housing

im useing a 31.75 mm adapter to go from 5x408 to 5x114.3. so remove 31.75 mm from the given offset. ;-)

edit: that brings the offset down to 13.25

elmer fudd
01-20-2009, 09:30 PM
see link below, that rim supposed to be a direct fit with a 20mm offset

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/searchWheelsByVehicleAndSize.do?bp=&rcz=94531&yr=1991&wd=17&rw=&vid=002240&rc=CEBINT



there info has this next to them.... "17X8 5-108 20SML"

I would say thats (17 x 8)5x108(20mm) I bet they are mighty close to the struts, I bet you couldn't run a lot of camber with them.




my 17*8's have a 5mm offset

so your wheels just poke a bit more. then the 14mm offset ones would thats all.

Volvo Thief
01-21-2009, 01:28 AM
Do you have a source for these wheels? Ronal no longer makes wheels for the aftermarket.

I dont have a source for Ronals. I just came across them while googling. This is turning into all crazy talk for me! I think I will just start my life long quest for some used direct fit Volvo oem Galaxy wheels!

MikeHardy
01-21-2009, 04:06 AM
there info has this next to them.... "17X8 5-108 20SML"
I would say thats (17 x 8)5x108(20mm) I bet they are mighty close to the struts, I bet you couldn't run a lot of negative camber with them.

edit and
that wouldn't really matter. the strut moves with the wheel when adjusting camber, but no it would likely rub on the sturt, little 5mm spacer would help

Redwood Chair
01-21-2009, 01:43 PM
You can buy some nice Multi X wheels in the for sale forum here for considerably less than spacers.
http://forums.turbobricks.com/search.php?searchid=2918251

elmer fudd
01-22-2009, 09:27 PM
edit and
that wouldn't really matter. the strut moves with the wheel when adjusting camber, but no it would likely rub on the sturt, little 5mm spacer would help

ya your right :oops: sorry still thinking like a vw guy. on the 99 back cars our camber was adjusted at the knuckle and the more camber you have the les tire space in board.

MikeHardy
01-23-2009, 07:57 AM
You mean ether less camber or more negative camber. People need to be more specific before some newbe reads this goes for an alignment and says he wants more camber and they give him +2 degrees