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77volvo245
02-16-2009, 05:18 PM
Ive been collecting Veggie oil through the winter to make Biodiesel. At the moment its very hard to make if it only 40 degrees in my shop all the time.
Here are some of my barrels that are full of WVO. The three navy blue barrels are 60 galons. The other two green barrels are 55 gallons . The two big totes have about 300 gallons of oil and weigh in about 2100 lbs.
This oil I have its not just for me Im planning on selling to other diesel Volvo owners and other diesel passenger vehicles around in Portland at a affordable price.



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golgothan
02-16-2009, 05:21 PM
I just got the overwhelming urge to get some chicken strips from the local bar.

pooprah
02-16-2009, 05:21 PM
so how much does it cost to make 900 gallons? your time is most likely the most expensive part

Jerd
02-16-2009, 05:21 PM
cool! Does this stuff run cooler than diesel?

77volvo245
02-16-2009, 05:39 PM
so how much does it cost to make 900 gallons? your time is most likely the most expensive part

It cost about little more than a 1.00 a gallon.

ElPiloto
02-16-2009, 05:46 PM
Biodiesel sure doesn't stink like petroleum diesel.:)

77volvo245
02-16-2009, 05:59 PM
cool! Does this stuff run cooler than diesel?

In my opinion Biodiesel dose burn hotter just becuse it takes more energy to burn it than petro diesel. Bio is far more a better lubricator, and better for the envrioment compare to regular diesel is.

77volvo245
02-16-2009, 06:03 PM
Biodiesel sure doesn't stink like petroleum diesel.:)

Some people think biodiesel stinks when its bening burned, I think it has its own unique smell to it. (but it does not smell like french fries);-)

RoadRacer4Life
02-16-2009, 06:35 PM
In my opinion Biodiesel Bio is far more a better lubricator.

"far more better" is the southern way to say it.
or much mo better.

Mueller
02-16-2009, 06:50 PM
your garage has got to stink...yuck !!!!

I've got a couple gallons WVO saved up, but it is for my garage heater/metal casting furnace

swedishK
02-16-2009, 07:20 PM
nice superdrum. when i was still new at my old job, another guy poked a hole in one of those with a forklift. it was filled with glycol. funny stuff.

Eli
02-17-2009, 12:59 AM
Wow. You Sir, have been busy. I am jealous.

One of these days I'll have my veggie burner going.

Vee_Que
02-17-2009, 01:02 AM
Some people think biodiesel stinks when its bening burned, I think it has its own unique smell to it. (but it does not smell like french fries);-)

Yeah that's what I think too.

So how much methonal do you have to go with that and caustic soda? Are there co-ops over there for this stuff?

Karl Buchka
02-17-2009, 01:03 AM
nice superdrum. when i was still new at my old job, another guy poked a hole in one of those with a forklift. it was filled with glycol. funny stuff.

Did you patch it with mighty putty?

77volvo245
02-17-2009, 01:11 AM
Wow. You Sir, have been busy. I am jealous.

One of these days I'll have my veggie burner going.



Here in Portland you can't find restaurants that are willing to give you thier oil beause they have contracts with big corps that pick the oil up. I've been looking on CL almost everyday to see if anyone is giving any cooking oil for free. Most the time you have to pay for it. Right know I think the best time beause of fuel prices what there at right now everyone is gettting rid of all the oil. Right now gas prices are rising back up so I need to stock up for the spring.

77volvo245
02-17-2009, 01:14 AM
nice superdrum. when i was still new at my old job, another guy poked a hole in one of those with a forklift. it was filled with glycol. funny stuff.

I've spilt 5 gallons of oil that even makes a big mess.

77volvo245
02-17-2009, 01:42 AM
Yeah that's what I think too.

So how much methonal do you have to go with that and caustic soda? Are there co-ops over there for this stuff?


Here is my processor, all you need is 4 gallons of methonal for a 20 gallon batch and 8 gallons for a 40 gallon batch. My processor can only do a 40 gallons at one time. For catalyst I use NAOH. (sodium hydroxide). With out going to full detal your methonal is going to stay the same and not change. Your catalyst is going to vary depends how good your oil is. To see how much NAOH you need to add you have to do a tritaion test. the point of the NAOH is to break down fatty acids is in the oil naturally and what has been cooked in the oil.
I like to heat the oil to 140 degrees it very inportant your oil does not have water in it or you going to have failed bio.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/Biodiesel/VolvoDiesel074.jpg
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Washing stage.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/Biodiesel/VolvoDiesel053.jpg

badvlvo
02-17-2009, 02:00 AM
That equipment is from Biodiesel Solutions? They were right across the street from me when I worked in Sparks.

Nice equipment, should make it worth the effort.

swedishK
02-17-2009, 02:04 AM
Did you patch it with mighty putty?

actually. yes. and we mopped up all the glycol with zorbies. **** sham-wow. billy mays has my heart.

77volvo245
02-17-2009, 02:40 AM
That equipment is from Biodiesel Solutions? They were right across the street from me when I worked in Sparks.

Nice equipment, should make it worth the effort.

Yea, I did not buy the machine new. The person I bought it from paid 3k for it, I only paid 900 dollars:)

77volvo245
02-19-2009, 01:27 AM
Finish product and ready to run into a Diesel engine

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/Biodiesel/VolvoDiesel067.jpg

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/Biodiesel/VolvoDiesel065.jpg

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dl242gt
02-19-2009, 02:22 AM
Great job!

aplitz
02-19-2009, 02:26 AM
A local eccentric millionaire genius (he invented the pressurized bearing, and sold some of his other ideas to GE) has been making biodiesel for years, and has a full staff of chemists that are constantly working on all sorts of fuel solutions. He recently opened up a fuel station with B10, B20, B99, and ethanol at the pump. Its really slick to be able to pull up and run bio in my Sprinter.

boostdemon
02-19-2009, 02:30 AM
whats your rate of return on all this investment? are you planning on selling it at normal price or more? or is it all for "personal" use and the idea is $1 gas after you're made up the difference

looks like a sweet setup, if i had a diesel i'd be all about the veggie power.

77volvo245
02-19-2009, 04:41 AM
whats your rate of return on all this investment? are you planning on selling it at normal price or more? or is it all for "personal" use and the idea is $1 gas after you're made up the difference

looks like a sweet setup, if i had a diesel i'd be all about the veggie power.


I know a few OVT/TB members that own diesel powered Volvos and they were paying 5.00 to 6.00 dollars a gallon for B100 at some places durring the summer. Right now you can only get B50 because for some reason people think its going to gel up. The turth is your eliminating that problem when you process veggie oil. I saw a station selling B50 for 2.99 a gallon the other day. Now just in Portland at all fuel station have B5 for 2.50 a gallon. last summer I was making bio and selling it for 3.00 a gallon to one person and myself. Now since I have a lot more veggie oil I can sell bio to a number of people. I only want to sell bio to older diesels that are not sensitive to the fuel they run.

What is exspesive is methonal its about 4.72 a gallon and you buy it by the barrel. If your were making a 40 batch its 8 gallons of methonal you have to use.

Vee_Que
02-19-2009, 06:01 AM
Here is my processor, all you need is 4 gallons of methonal for a 20 gallon batch and 8 gallons for a 40 gallon batch. My processor can only do a 40 gallons at one time. For catalyst I use NAOH. (sodium hydroxide). With out going to full detal your methonal is going to stay the same and not change. Your catalyst is going to vary depends how good your oil is. To see how much NAOH you need to add you have to do a tritaion test. the point of the NAOH is to break down fatty acids is in the oil naturally and what has been cooked in the oil.
I like to heat the oil to 140 degrees it very inportant your oil does not have water in it or you going to have failed bio.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/Biodiesel/VolvoDiesel074.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/Biodiesel/VolvoDiesel073.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/Biodiesel/VolvoDiesel078.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/Biodiesel/VolvoDiesel049.jpg
Washing stage.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/Biodiesel/VolvoDiesel053.jpg
Images do work now, but that's a slightly different process to what my dad used to do, even when he bought vege oil, he made it in a 44 gallon drum with a dishwasher heater in the bottom of it and his drill with a mixer on the end of it. Came out alright till his last batch.


I know a few OVT/TB members that own diesel powered Volvos and they were paying 5.00 to 6.00 dollars a gallon for B100 at some places durring the summer. Right now you can only get B50 because for some reason people think its going to gel up. The turth is your eliminating that problem when you process veggie oil. I saw a station selling B50 for 2.99 a gallon the other day. Now just in Portland at all fuel station have B5 for 2.50 a gallon. last summer I was making bio and selling it for 3.00 a gallon to one person and myself. Now since I have a lot more veggie oil I can sell bio to a number of people. I only want to sell bio to older diesels that are not sensitive to the fuel they run.

What is exspesive is methonal its about 4.72 a gallon and you buy it by the barrel. If your were making a 40 batch its 8 gallons of methonal you have to use.
I did notice that the pump stuff I was putting into our TDi mk3 golf was making the car harder to start on cold mornings, it does happen as Diesel gels up too.

77volvo245
02-19-2009, 02:15 PM
Images do work now, but that's a slightly different process to what my dad used to do, even when he bought vege oil, he made it in a 44 gallon drum with a dishwasher heater in the bottom of it and his drill with a mixer on the end of it. Came out alright till his last batch.



I did notice that the pump stuff I was putting into our TDi mk3 golf was making the car harder to start on cold mornings, it does happen as Diesel gels up too.

Yea, diesel is oil and it would have a little more viscosity to it but not much. I have some peanut that is soild right now and its only 50 to 60 degrees in my shop. My other oil in my drums in the picture above not at the piont of being soild at all and its been very cold the last few months. I notice peanut oil will become soild very easy and olive as well.

Texas240
02-19-2009, 02:22 PM
I can smell that oil from here.. YUmmy

GabAlmighty
02-19-2009, 03:23 PM
Looks sweet, I like it
Who wants to go swimming?

77volvo245
03-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Here are a few more things my dad and I have been working on.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/1985%20Diesel/biodieseloil054.jpg

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What this is a 110 gallon "oil heater". It will heat veggie oil at about 160 degrees using two hot water heater elements. The reason why we build this is bacause its a lot cheaper than the way I'm heater oil right now. How I'm heating the oil now is with a turkey cooker that uses propane and I can only heat oil 10 gallons at one time. Right now Propane is 3.00 a gallon and only last me a week on a five gallon tank. Now I can heat my veggie oil 160 degrees a much safer and efficient way than before.

What is left to do is check for leaks and need to power the two elements with at least 30 feet of wire. Also have not found out how I'm going to transfer the oil to the tank than to my processor.


The by-product of making Bio diesel is glycerin. Instead of throwing glycerin away you can make soap. I made a gallon of glyerin soap all it takes is water and lye (catalyst)

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z229/77volvo245/1985%20Diesel/biodieseloil058.jpg

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olov
03-06-2009, 10:33 PM
i can't believe i missed this thread when it started.

cool factor of 1,000 fo sho

PRVersion
03-08-2009, 02:45 PM
i like how the directions say to use denatured alcohol or methanol, and you're using isopropyl.

i'm don't know about the nature of your reaction, but i know if i'd have made a mistake like that in college i'd have failed the lab...

that said, if you pour some peppermint oil into the next batch of soap i'll buy it by the milk crate :-D

77volvo245
03-08-2009, 04:41 PM
i like how the directions say to use denatured alcohol or methanol, and you're using isopropyl.

i'm don't know about the nature of your reaction, but i know if i'd have made a mistake like that in college i'd have failed the lab...

that said, if you pour some peppermint oil into the next batch of soap i'll buy it by the milk crate :-D

Ill try it next time when making a next batch of soap and see how it turns out

boostdemon
03-08-2009, 04:44 PM
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