Electromotive XDI2

[yama]

I'm thinking of getting the electromotive xdi2. Electromotive recommends using their 60-2 crank wheel and sensor. Does anyone know if its possible to use the stock Volvo 60-2 wheel? Main benifit is to go DIS, get a stronger spark and have full ignition tunability. My main concern is that its only spark and will leave me dependent on LH2.4 for fuel for the time being. I don't know if latter I'll be sorry I didn't just get TEC. Any comments welcome.

http://www.distributorless.com/products/xdi2.php

[Karl Buchka]

I think your main concern should be why you're looking to spend over $1000 on a box that is not only limited to spark, but wasted spark at that.

If you have your heart set on a commercial system, a Haltech E6X will do full sequential fuel and spark for about $1300.

A Megasquirt will give you sequential spark and batch fire fuel for less than $200.

[Stereophile33]

the answer is yes it will work on stock LH 2.4 wheel....the biggest question is why stop there...get the whole system.

I have starting maps for electromotive kit

[yama]

I think your main concern should be why you're looking to spend over $1000 on a box that is not only limited to spark, but wasted spark at that.

If you have your heart set on a commercial system, a Haltech E6X will do full sequential fuel and spark for about $1300.

A Megasquirt will give you sequential spark and batch fire fuel for less than $200.

Good point and definetely not sure about spending 1000 on just spark. I'm ok with the wasted spark as I don't want to spin a distributor for the home signal. If you subtract 150 for the coils its around 800-850 for the spark box.

[yama]

the answer is yes it will work on stock LH 2.4 wheel....the biggest question is why stop there...get the whole system.

I have starting maps for electromotive kit

The fact that the stock wheel works makes it all the more tempting. How has the TEC been working out for you? Not sure I could justify spending that much on the whole system. Thanks for the heads up on the maps.

[Captain Bondo]

The stock 60-2 works with like... almost everything. In the grand scheme of things, while it is a point worth noting, there are a lot of other features in an EMS you may or may not need and may or may not want to pay for, depending on your actual goals.

I think you should evaluate your goals and needs more closely, along with some different engine management systems and work towards making a more informed decision. You are on a path that will definitely lead you to spending a ****load of money, but may or may not be leading you towards a management solution that meets your needs at an effective pricepoint.

[burstcurse]

a buddy of mine had on on a vw 16valve it was fast but the coils kept burning out. he recently switched to megasquirt and added a turbo. ms is a much better system.

[Captain Bondo]

a buddy of mine had on on a vw 16valve it was fast but the coils kept burning out. he recently switched to megasquirt and added a turbo. ms is a much better system.

Megasquirt is not an ignition. :e-shrug:

[burstcurse]

your right its better since it does fuel also

[Captain Bondo]

Megasquirt is not an ignition.

[Matt Cramer]

Megasquirt is not an ignition.

I've seen it used as one before. Well, along with suitable coils and sensors.

[Captain Bondo]

I've seen it used as one before. Well, along with suitable coils and sensors.

Megasquirt (and most EMS's) is really meant to provide a logic level signal that is typically supplied to an ignition system.

It's kind of an ignition if you install onboard coil drivers, and it has dwell control, but it's not any more an ignition than an Autronic or any other EMS is - which means it isn't really. The intent is that you use them to drive an ignition.

It's ultimately dependent on the drivers and coils used which are seperate from megasquirt- megasquirt is just supplying the signal to the ignition.

So saying megasquirt is better than an XDI makes no sense. Megasquirt cna be configured to work with dozens of ignition schemes.


And XDI is actually a crank triggered ignition system and a completely different animal.

[Karl Buchka]

The distinction is pretty academic. Deep breaths Kenny. :-P

[yama]

I've seen it used as one before. Well, along with suitable coils and sensors.

Matt,

If I deceided to go MS is MS2 V3.0 the way to go or is there something better coming along soon?

Do you think it work as a way to go wasted spark DIS by decoding the stock 58-2 crank signal and using ths stock computer to control timing? I know that it would be under utiliziing the box intially but all I need for now would be a box that could control dwell and decode what bank of coils to fire. Later on I might start using it for timing and fuel.

[Karl Buchka]

MS2 on a V3 PCB is pretty solid. MS3 is probably coming out some time next year, but it will just replace your MS2 chip, so you're not trapping yourself if you buy now.

That definitely won't work. Either you keep the stock ignition system or you replace it entirely with MS. And it's called a 60-2. ;-)

[burstcurse]

yea ditch the 2.4. it wont matter if you use megasquirt to electromotive you cant share the vr signal it can only go to the lh2.4 or megasquirt or electromotive. that electromotive xdi2 is for running carbs anyway.