December 5th Fontana CA 1/4th track day

[fast242]

We will try this again and maybe more people will actually show up and participate. The incentive this time is I plan to bring a BBQ and a Canopy plus a cooler. So, if you show up, you will get free food, and if you are super cool, you can bring stuff to char or consume with your fellow TB members.

So, December 5th, Fontana. Think where the 15fwy and the 10fwy meet. $20 to run, $10 to watch.
http://www.autoclubspeedway.com/Tickets-Events/Events/2009/Auto-Club-Dragway/Street-Legal-Drags.aspx

Most volvo's will pass inspection. If you drip some oil, that is ok. Battery tie down strongly suggested and BE SURE to bring your insurance card for the car, Registration, and your License.

I currently plan to get there much earlier than we did last time. I might even leave my house at 5:30 am.

Hope to see you all there, and no more excuses. Even if the car is missfiring, or not creating the best boost, come out at least to support your fellow volvo.

[volvorod85]

Ill have to see how things pan out....but i may join you down there this time....i havent run the 2.5l...not that its anywhere near its potential....but it could be fun. And I am..super cool, heh

Mark

[ThickasaBrick]

I'll be there.
Here's a motivational speaker for the rest of you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDsG8IsBPoM
Regards, Eric

[thelostartof]

Ya'll should just come out to AZ on that weekend for racing, you should get more runs in as we also have tracks open on sat also

[760brick90]

[QUOTEor not creating the best boost[/QUOTE]

LawL

[760brick90]

or not creating the best boost

LawL

[L8 APEKS]

I will be there! :)

Thinking about bringing a cooler with some grub, some camp chairs...should we try to park together in the paddock area? I see ppl do that a lot.

[fast242]

I will be there! :)

Thinking about bringing a cooler with some grub, some camp chairs...should we try to park together in the paddock area? I see ppl do that a lot.

Thats exactly what is planned. Paddock area reserved in a way for volvo's only, or at least our group. We should not have too much problem with having at least 6 or seven spaces taken up for the volvo cars and a pop up shade a few chairs and a BBQ and cooler.

The trick it seems, is to have one vehicle come really early that is not dragging to camp out a spot in the paddock. If done early enough, we could get a decent spot that wont crowd anyone else out. The parking lot is HUGE and should be easy to create a volvo only spot. Expect to see many of these camps made.

Mike, An arizona trip would be dope as all get out, but the SoCal TB members seem to be unusually broke, not able to take two days off and averse to long drives. Maybe a January trip to AZ? I cannot swing a trip out till after Christmas. Personally, I don't mind a good drive, it's the cost to do so and time.

PJ

[L8 APEKS]

I wouldn't mind going out to AZ. Just have to schedule it.

As for the drags...I can get there as early as need be. I don't have an EZ-Up, but I have 4 folding camp chairs I can bring. I will also have both of my cars there I think; my buddy will probably be driving my Corrado. So we can try to gank as much room as possible. I also have a cooler and a small hibachi (briquette) grill. Maybe someone has a propane camp stove? That might be better. I'll have my toolbox with me as well (basic stuff). Spread all that crap out and I should be able to claim 4-5 spots I'd imagine.

Should make it a "euro" spot...there may be a few VW guys coming. ;)

I might be able to procure some traffic cones...just cone the spots off and move them for ppl in our group.

[ThickasaBrick]

Sounds good.
Please don't forget the Benz guys who are coming too.
I'll be bringing ramps, a 700 watt power inverter, a power cutting tool, and some hands tools as well.
Regards, Eric

[fast242]

Sounds good.
Please don't forget the Benz guys who are coming too.
I'll be bringing ramps, a 700 watt power inverter, a power cutting tool, and some hands tools as well.
Regards, Eric

The Benz guy's are more than welcome. It was not our intention to not include them last time, if they felt that way.

PJ

[ThickasaBrick]

No, I know you guys were cool, I just think Justin was kinda distracted cause his woman wasn't feeling good (I think she just didn't want to be there). BTW, she's not coming to this next one.

I just wanted to get it out there that they are coming again and to please save spots for them and me too (I'm a 1/3 Benz, 1/3 Volvo, 1/3 AMC guy). Also found out Justin's BMW buddy is coming too. He has a 88 3 series. Can he hang too? That would make it a true total Euro section.
Regards, Eric

[L8 APEKS]

Unless they are rich douche-nozzles in E55 AMG's. Then they can blow me.

The rest of them are welcome.

:lol:

[fast242]

Unless they are rich douche-nozzles in E55 AMG's. Then they can blow me.

The rest of them are welcome.

:lol:

When the E63 came out, the E55 lost a lot of it's douche-ness. How can you say you are rich with a 4 year old car. Just sayin.

PJ

[ThickasaBrick]

I feel the same way as L8.
The newest car amongst us are two 93s.
Regards, Eric

[wagonfetish]

I need to get my wagon back on the road...:grrr:

[d34thd34l3r]

I will show up If funds are there and the car is running I wont care if it runs like crap just money + driving = drag racing bizitch!

[ThickasaBrick]

I feel the same way as L8.
The newest car amongst us are two 93s.
Regards, Eric

Oops, need to edit the above as I just bought a 95 E420 tonight for $575 running/driving. I didn't want it, didn't need it, It needs work of course, and I don't have the room for it but I couldn't pass it up at that price.

I have 2 good 300Es that I now must cull from the herd. I'll trade them both for one really nice 93-94 turbo 940 wagon or sedan or I'll sell them outright. http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=184867 I'm bringing one of them on the 5th.
Regards, Eric

[fast242]

Oops, need to edit the above as I just bought a 95 E420 tonight for $575 running/driving. I didn't want it, didn't need it, It needs work of course, and I don't have the room for it but I couldn't pass it up at that price.

I have 2 good 300Es that I now must cull from the herd. I'll trade them both for one really nice 93-94 turbo 940 wagon or sedan or I'll sell them outright. http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=184867 I'm bringing one of them on the 5th.
Regards, Eric

More like a stampede of cars. Few of us have the space for so many vehicles.

PJ

[L8 APEKS]

More like a stampede of cars. Few of us have the space for so many vehicles.

PJ

Speaking of which...does someone have room for me to park my Corrado at their place for a while?!?!

[ThickasaBrick]

If you'll take a 300E off of my hands, I'll be able to put your VW in the 300E's spot.

So who is coming on the 5th? So far I see only three firm commitments. L8, P.J., myself, my two Benz buddies, and that 88 3 series BMW.
Regards, Eric

[Texas240]

i just realized when this is and im in, I'll call this my "end of term before finals study session":-D

[fast242]

Looks like I am bringing Carne Asada as the beef of choice, corn tortilla's, fresh guacamole, fresh salsa, cheese, limes, and salt. I do not believe they allow alcohol in the paddock, but if you decide to attempt such things, it will be up to you to take care of that issue. I plan to bring Some soda and a cooler. Extra coolers may help, as well as a chair.

BUT, it would help to know how many are coming for sure, even just to watch due to mechanical difficulties. I would rather not spend a ton on food and only have 4 people show up. I would like to keep the overage to a minimum.

PJ

[Texas240]

Looks like I am bringing Carne Asada as the beef of choice, corn tortilla's, fresh guacamole, fresh salsa, cheese, limes, and salt. I do not believe they allow alcohol in the paddock, but if you decide to attempt such things, it will be up to you to take care of that issue. I plan to bring Some soda and a cooler. Extra coolers may help, as well as a chair.

BUT, it would help to know how many are coming for sure, even just to watch due to mechanical difficulties. I would rather not spend a ton on food and only have 4 people show up. I would like to keep the overage to a minimum.

PJ

You can count me in, I'll pitch some money in to help if you help get that G80 Locker in:oogle::oogle:

[d34thd34l3r]

Looks like I am bringing Carne Asada as the beef of choice, corn tortilla's, fresh guacamole, fresh salsa, cheese, limes, and salt. I do not believe they allow alcohol in the paddock, but if you decide to attempt such things, it will be up to you to take care of that issue. I plan to bring Some soda and a cooler. Extra coolers may help, as well as a chair.

BUT, it would help to know how many are coming for sure, even just to watch due to mechanical difficulties. I would rather not spend a ton on food and only have 4 people show up. I would like to keep the overage to a minimum.

PJ

wow you really are going all. out. you can count me in on this one even if i have to roll up in a honda (or a 3000gt :oogle: ) =p



PS dont get your panties in a bunch the 3kgt is NA and is HEAVY ... the 940 easily outruns it... untill that tt conversion comes along

[Texas240]

wow you really are going all. out. you can count me in on this one even if i have to roll up in a honda (or a 3000gt :oogle: ) =p



PS dont get your panties in a bunch the 3kgt is NA and is HEAVY ... the 940 easily outruns it... untill that tt conversion comes along

HA:lol:

[760brick90]

I still dont know if I'm going to be able to make it out to this one. Bills and other stuff are needing to be taken care of.

[d34thd34l3r]

how much does it cost you to put food inside you every day? 5 bucks? easy dont eat for a week. =)

[ThickasaBrick]

Looks like I am bringing Carne Asada as the beef of choice, corn tortilla's, fresh guacamole, fresh salsa, cheese, limes, and salt. I do not believe they allow alcohol in the paddock, but if you decide to attempt such things, it will be up to you to take care of that issue. I plan to bring Some soda and a cooler. Extra coolers may help, as well as a chair.

BUT, it would help to know how many are coming for sure, even just to watch due to mechanical difficulties. I would rather not spend a ton on food and only have 4 people show up. I would like to keep the overage to a minimum.

PJ

I might can make a spare cooler happen. Does it need to come with or with-out ice?

[fast242]

I might can make a spare cooler happen. Does it need to come with or with-out ice?

with some Ice might help. If others are bringing a few soda's or other things that they want cooled or kept cold.

PJ

[Texas240]

with some Ice might help. If others are bringing a few soda's or other things that they want cooled or kept cold.

PJ

How about a few organs or something to sell to fund the, make it home fund:rofl:

[L8 APEKS]

I'll bring some sodas, maybe waters.

Did we get an EZ-Up yet?

Can someone bring snacks?

[fast242]

I'll bring some sodas, maybe waters.

Did we get an EZ-Up yet?

Can someone bring snacks?

I have one EZ up, Dave Barton is planning to bring one as well. I have 8 plastic chairs, and even two plastic tables. Not sure if the tables are needed. I want to see if my Dad can bring his truck, which can tow anything we bring if need be.

PJ

[ThickasaBrick]

with some Ice might help. If others are bringing a few soda's or other things that they want cooled or kept cold.

PJ

I'll make it happen.
Regards, Eric

[ThickasaBrick]

Hey, hasn't the word got out about how good PJ's cooking is?
Regards, Eric

[L8 APEKS]

Did I hear PJ just volunteered for BBQ detail? SWEET!!! :)

[Texas240]

I have one EZ up, Dave Barton is planning to bring one as well. I have 8 plastic chairs, and even two plastic tables. Not sure if the tables are needed. I want to see if my Dad can bring his truck, which can tow anything we bring if need be.

PJ

Beware, that EZ-UP takes out antennas :oogle::oogle::rofl::rofl:

[fast242]

Beware, that EZ-UP takes out antennas :oogle::oogle::rofl::rofl:

especially my EZ up. It really likes ones from texas.

PJ

[L8 APEKS]

Man, I can't wait...looks like West coast is gonna take the EvW crown again! This is our last chance for entries! :)

[ZVOLV]

I'm gonna have to look into AAA...

[fast242]

I'm gonna have to look into AAA...

AAA is cheap for 100 mile tow service. Unless you abuse it, it is great assurance.

PJ

[ZVOLV]

I just paid $100 to get my car towed home 10 miles due to a blown out crank sensor. If I am gonna drive from SD to LA I need to have towing coverage!

[L8 APEKS]

As long as you're with someone else who has it, they can use their tow on your car. I ALWAYS carry the Plus service, but I think I'm out of tows. I still get tow service for pretty cheap though, just being a member, even though I'm over my allotted "free" 100-mile tows.

[ZVOLV]

I will look into AAA. I really want to get up to LA and try out the track up there.

I need slicks/driveshaft loop and hopefully I'm not hitting fuel cut now with the cheeps.

[Texas240]

As long as you're with someone else who has it, they can use their tow on your car. I ALWAYS carry the Plus service, but I think I'm out of tows. I still get tow service for pretty cheap though, just being a member, even though I'm over my allotted "free" 100-mile tows.

bull****, last night my cousin used his AAA for me to have my car towed 12 miles and it cost me $55 when I could called my free 50 miles with Amica and waited forever to get to me... So f_ck tripple AAA:grrr:

And Damn you EZ-UPS and taking out my radio life line:grrr::rofl::-P

[yamahapro]

I'll go

[L8 APEKS]

Wewt!

Y'all better look out. I just spent $118 bucks...on spark plugs. :grrr:

BCPR7EIX for the Volvo and W5DP0 for the VW. Doing everything I can to ward off the ping fairy. lol. :lol:

[fast242]

Wewt!

Y'all better look out. I just spent $118 bucks...on spark plugs. :grrr:

BCPR7EIX for the Volvo and W5DP0 for the VW. Doing everything I can to ward off the ping fairy. lol. :lol:

So you did go one range cooler on the 850 plugs. I was surprised you put champions in it that night we all were there.

AAA plus is the coverage to get. The basic only covers the first 7 miles, or some low number like that. You can get Premium and then the top level is AAA black, which if it has not changed, has a 500 mile tow, or something crazy.

PJ

[L8 APEKS]

the top level is AAA black, which if it has not changed, has a 500 mile tow, or something crazy.

PJ

Once you go black... :lol:

[ThickasaBrick]

Once you go black... :lol:
......Your parents get a heart attack.

[Texas240]

Once you go black... :lol:

I like my coffee like I like my woman...;-)

Just got my Wires in from IPD yesterday, no more mismatch duralast and boige cards:lol:

[760brick90]

Once you go black... :lol:

......Your parents get a heart attack.

WoW this is funny

[fast242]

AHh, more shens. I get to swap in a better getrag and hope it was not abused, or ran with no fluids like mine did. No one repairs the buggers, and the few who do, charge arms and legs, plus left nuts, right eye, and a butt cheek. Parts hard to get, expensive, and need special tools to remove. I may have to load up on a few getrags and not put one in my 242.

Got my 50 trim turbo from an ebay buy. Used China T3/T4 54 trim. Actually decent quality, but the interesting parts is the compressor wheel looks a lot like a real Garrett wheel except it looks and feels heavier. You have to see them side by side to tell the difference. I have not decided how I will handle this turbo. I have another turbo I can rebuild as well.

PJ

[d34thd34l3r]

give me the t3/t4 for my t3/t4 and two 15 g's and help me install it =)

[Texas240]

AHh, more shens. I get to swap in a better getrag and hope it was not abused, or ran with no fluids like mine did. No one repairs the buggers, and the few who do, charge arms and legs, plus left nuts, right eye, and a butt cheek. Parts hard to get, expensive, and need special tools to remove. I may have to load up on a few getrags and not put one in my 242.

Got my 50 trim turbo from an ebay buy. Used China T3/T4 54 trim. Actually decent quality, but the interesting parts is the compressor wheel looks a lot like a real Garrett wheel except it looks and feels heavier. You have to see them side by side to tell the difference. I have not decided how I will handle this turbo. I have another turbo I can rebuild as well.

PJ

Are you making junkyard runs:oogle:

[ThickasaBrick]

WoW this is funny

Thanks. I just made that up. It rhymes.
Regards, Eric

[d34thd34l3r]

Let's do this!

Plans for this drag race! ported 90+ ported flag/angled 15g exhaust housing. properly clocked coldsie. Properly bracketed wastegate. Resealed 15g(no more oil)


probable outcome.... nothing...

[L8 APEKS]

Word up!

I'll have my exhaust done next week. :)

[Texas240]

i'll have my new ipd pluds on, 5 bar oil sender in block and wired up, and hopefully new clutch in but I might not one if new clutch is in. I want to break it properly unlike the last 2 were not.

[fast242]

i'll have my new ipd pluds on, 5 bar oil sender in block and wired up, and hopefully new clutch in but I might not one if new clutch is in. I want to break it properly unlike the last 2 were not.

Just drive around town a lot. only need about 400 miles on the clutch to break it in.

PJ

[Texas240]

Just drive around town a lot. only need about 400 miles on the clutch to break it in.

PJ

You buying gas...You want to ride dirty:oogle:

[volvorod85]

woah...too much info dude

Mark

[Texas240]

woah...too much info dude

Mark

Jealous much:rofl:

[volvorod85]

maaaabye

Mark

[ThickasaBrick]

Say, that reminds me: are we supposed to bring our wives and kids to this event or are we supposed to leave them at home?
Regards, Eric

[fast242]

Say, that reminds me: are we supposed to bring our wives and kids to this event or are we supposed to leave them at home?
Regards, Eric

I was not too inclined to take my kids and my wife does not like car events. She would rather cut her wrist than sit around while I talk to other guys about cars. My kids have some interest, but it may be too many hours for them and trying to BBQ, race, and watch kids is probably not a good thing.

If you want to bring the fam, I will do what I can to help, but it may not be the best help due to other distractions.

PJ

[ThickasaBrick]

I appreciate it but that's OK. I won't bring them if no other families are coming. I just didn't want to not bring them if there were going to be other families there. Then all the wives could sit around and ridicule and talk trash about their husbands to each other because of all the time and money that we waste on these "old worthless cars" That's big fun for them! (All my wife cares about is the car having working air conditioning!) It's also good because then the wives learn that their own husbands are not unique in their illness.
Regards, Eric

[Texas240]

Awwww, the joy of having families.. Im not there yet unless by some freak accident my gf is pregnant

[L8 APEKS]

Say, that reminds me: are we supposed to bring our wives and kids to this event or are we supposed to leave them at home?
Regards, Eric

Bring if they feel like sitting at the drag strip! I invited my GF, with a warning that it's going to be a VERY early morning and a long day doing basically nothing (from her point of view).

So yeah...she's not coming either. :-D

[Texas240]

Bring if they feel like sitting at the drag strip! I invited my GF, with a warning that it's going to be a VERY early morning and a long day doing basically nothing (from her point of view).

So yeah...she's not coming either. :-D

Fantastic, just men reminiscing about there massive turbos...Ohh god, does that make me sound gay??:-P

[ThickasaBrick]

It's not the size of the turbo, it's how you use it!
Regards, Eric

[Texas240]

It's not the size of the turbo, it's how you use it!
Regards, Eric

Well, since you put it that way... let me see your turbo:oogle::oogle:

[fast242]

Well, since you put it that way... let me see your turbo:oogle::oogle:

Uh Oh, turbo envy.

PJ

[ThickasaBrick]

My turbo isn't one that anybody would envy.:oops:
Regards, Eric:

[fast242]

So, it is about that time we get a head count so I know how much food to bring. So far, it looks fairly light. About 7 people it seems.

PJ

[dbarton]

So, it is about that time we get a head count so I know how much food to bring. So far, it looks fairly light. About 7 people it seems. PJ

Me

[Texas240]

me

[ThickasaBrick]

Me, my 2 Benz buddies, and the BMW guy.
PJ, did anybody ever figure out who the young, skinny, redheaded kid in this Brick is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33fbm_ba8fk&feature=related
Regards, Eric

[fast242]

Me, my 2 Benz buddies, and the BMW guy.
PJ, did anybody ever figure out who the young, skinny, redheaded kid in this Brick is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33fbm_ba8fk&feature=related
Regards, Eric

watched that vid and I have no clue who it is. No one that has posted here recently or I have seen at the other tracks.

So we have
Me (PJ)
Dave Barton
Aaron
Eric
L8 Apeks
2 benz guys
1 beemer guy


d34thd34l3r ( Gonzalo) has not said he is coming the last time I talked to him.
Yamahapro will be added if he posts in here that he is coming. We tend to get a lot of people saying yes, then never showing up, I was hoping to get confirmations.

A small group usually is a little easier to deal with.

PJ

[L8 APEKS]

...and me. Duh. ;)

[ThickasaBrick]

wow you really are going all. out. you can count me in on this one even if i have to roll up in a honda (or a 3000gt :oogle: ) =p



PS dont get your panties in a bunch the 3kgt is NA and is HEAVY ... the 940 easily outruns it... untill that tt conversion comes along

Don't forget this guy.

[ThickasaBrick]

I will be there! :)

Thinking about bringing a cooler with some grub, some camp chairs...should we try to park together in the paddock area? I see ppl do that a lot.

And this guy.

Edit: Oh, I see he has already reminded you.

[ThickasaBrick]

I'll go

And then there's this guy.

[fast242]

I updated my earlier post (#79)

PJ

[L8 APEKS]

PS...I don't suppose anyone has a pair of 15" 4x100 wheels sitting around, do they?! :omg: I need fronts for the VW!

[Texas240]

And then there's this guy.

:rofl: I was waiting for some one to say that. . .

[L8 APEKS]

I managed to procure some tires. If only my wheels would show up before Friday...arrrgh!

[L8 APEKS]

Hey Gonzo...I think I have 2 cars that are gonna beat you! Mua ha ha ha ha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztA8amZMXqM

:-P

PS...I found out there's a dyno day on Sunday in Van Nuys. I know it's a bit of a schlep from Fontana (65 miles or so), but I was thinking of staying at a Motel 6 near Van Nuys on Saturday night after the drags and then heading to the dyno day on Sunday morning, then coming home. It would be a long weekend, but it would be nice to get baseline ET's and baseline dynos on the same weekend.

If there's room for a few more cars, would anyone else be interested? It's $65 for 3 pulls with A/F plots.

[ZVOLV]

I'm not going to be there. My car ran ass times at the strip last time due to the clutch and lack of boost. But its still stripped down and probably getting tow coverage tommorow so...

How many runs do you get? Do they sell race gas?

[ThickasaBrick]

It totally depends on too many factors. I've gotten as few as 3 runs and as many as 11 runs (on a day I didn't get there till 12:30PM!).

I don't know about the availability of race gas.... I'm allergic to the stuff.
Regards, Eric

[Texas240]

theres a station in Pomona that sells 100 or something

[760brick90]

So it looks like i'll be running!

[fast242]

I'm not going to be there. My car ran ass times at the strip last time due to the clutch and lack of boost. But its still stripped down and probably getting tow coverage tommorow so...

How many runs do you get? Do they sell race gas?

Where are you coming from? Their are gas stations that have 100 octane that are fairlu close, but depending on your route, could be a significant detour. I plan to run only 91 this time.

PJ

[Texas240]

Where are you coming from? Their are gas stations that have 100 octane that are fairlu close, but depending on your route, could be a significant detour. I plan to run only 91 this time.

PJ

If I can find some E85 and my chips are made to run to this I might do it, but Im not sure.. The E85 is a whole new ballpark for me

[L8 APEKS]

If I can find some E85 and my chips are made to run to this I might do it, but Im not sure.. The E85 is a whole new ballpark for me

What do you need E85 for?

[volvorod85]

Im not gonna make it guys. The 242 has a missfire at 5,000, as fast242 can tell you while he slowly pulled away from me a few weeks back...lame.

And Im not gonna have it fixed then, let alone have even looked at it, and Ive got a job paying me a few hundred needed dollareedoos. And I dont feel like driving down there....but thats the main reason, heh. Have fun...burn some meat for me!

Mark

[DanielRogers]

Hey Gonzo...I think I have 2 cars that are gonna beat you! Mua ha ha ha ha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztA8amZMXqM

:-P

PS...I found out there's a dyno day on Sunday in Van Nuys. I know it's a bit of a schlep from Fontana (65 miles or so), but I was thinking of staying at a Motel 6 near Van Nuys on Saturday night after the drags and then heading to the dyno day on Sunday morning, then coming home. It would be a long weekend, but it would be nice to get baseline ET's and baseline dynos on the same weekend.

If there's room for a few more cars, would anyone else be interested? It's $65 for 3 pulls with A/F plots.


I'm down for this. I won't be able to make it to drag day on Saturday, but since I live in Hollywood it's an easy drive to get to Van Nuys for me.

[Texas240]

What do you need E85 for?

Higher Octane amount in it and its cheaper then that 100 octane

[Coupe' de Grace]

no time slip for me this year.

[L8 APEKS]

Even if you guys aren't running you should come chill with us!

Aaron, I'd be careful with the E85...stoich is something like 9.7:1. Make sure you use an A/F gauge! I think I found a station in Santa Monica that sells it...the next one going south is in south San Diego.

[ZVOLV]

Even if you guys aren't running you should come chill with us!

Aaron, I'd be careful with the E85...stoich is something like 9.7:1. Make sure you use an A/F gauge! I think I found a station in Santa Monica that sells it...the next one going south is in south San Diego.

There is one in SD off El Cajon Blvd and the 15. I am doing my research on what its going to take to go E85. A couple of weeks ago it was cheaper than gas at $2.75/gal. Im paying about $3.00/gal right now on 91 octane.

I am not going to make it guys. I am spending this weekend working on the house and getting parts shipped out. I still didnt buy tow coverage and my clutch wasnt holding at the 1/8th mile track what makes me think its going to start holding a couple weeks later.

[L8 APEKS]

No worries!

All you really need for E85 is an AFR gauge, and possibly an adjustable FPR and/or larger injectors. I'm gonna run E85 in my Corrado I decided. Just need to save a few paychecks for the parts.

Hey, who was gonna be getting there early with me? And who was bringing the EZ Up? PM me so we can coordinate! I think gates open at 6...I was gonna leave my house in HB @ 5 to 5:15 at the latest.

[fast242]

I am planning carne asada for 10 people. When you get there, and meet up with me, it would be neat if the people eating the meat, pitch in a little. A few dollars to offset the cost of food. Ballpark is $3 per person. Much cheaper and better food than the stands, and only little more than burgers or hot dogs on the grill :)

BTW, If all goes well, and based on current Dyno numbers and Butt Dyno as well, I am looking for 13's

PJ

[L8 APEKS]

PJ, what time are you planning on getting there? Oh, and do you have a multimeter you could bring? I need to finish installing my gauges before we run!

[Texas240]

Even if you guys aren't running you should come chill with us!

Aaron, I'd be careful with the E85...stoich is something like 9.7:1. Make sure you use an A/F gauge! I think I found a station in Santa Monica that sells it...the next one going south is in south San Diego.

im running higher injectors and 3" maf so the engine should be fine, but I dont want to mix so much petrol w/ e85:-D

[L8 APEKS]

Why not? I poked around and guys seem to use all sorts of petrol/E85 mixes! I think I'll run staright E85 in the Corrado though.

[sdturbo]

E85 is already mixed with 15% gasoline. I think you guys are going to be in a world of trouble if you think you are going to just dump some e85 in your car and race. Until you have a way to tune you are going to hinder performance running anything but pump gasoline.

[ZVOLV]

E85 Thread:

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=73061

[sdturbo]

Yeah I have read it. Do back to back runs on 91 and e85, let me know how it goes.

[L8 APEKS]

E85 is already mixed with 15% gasoline. I think you guys are going to be in a world of trouble if you think you are going to just dump some e85 in your car and race. Until you have a way to tune you are going to hinder performance running anything but pump gasoline.

I've found a number of guys that have had good results with nothing more than juggling wideband logs, injectors, and adjustable FPR's. That should be good enough to start. :)

[volvorod85]

You guys have big hairy balls, id wanna be able to drive my car home....heh thats just me

Mark

[sdturbo]

You guys have big hairy balls, id wanna be able to drive my car home....heh thats just me

Mark

Big hairy balls and a AAA card get me through a lot of racing.

[L8 APEKS]

Big hairy balls and a AAA card get me through a lot of racing.

:lol:

[Texas240]

Big hairy balls and a AAA card get me through a lot of racing.

I'm not to worried since I have 50 miles free from amica which should put me close to my place or seans bed;-)

[L8 APEKS]

I'm not to worried since I have 50 miles free from amica which should put me close to my place or seans bed;-)

Ok, but if you expect to sleep in my bed, you're wearing a blonde wig and lace stockings. :oogle:

[ThickasaBrick]

Big hairy balls and a AAA card get me through a lot of racing.

That's a little too much info.

Are you going to be in Fontana tomorrow?

[fast242]

Josh is not planning to be there. He be a busy guy. And it does not help that I keep interrupting his work with my own crap.

It's late, I have stuff I want to do to my car, and I don't have time.

PJ

[L8 APEKS]

'Twas a good day!!! :)

[thelostartof]

and times were?

[dbarton]

and times were?

...and times were good?



ok, ok...
My 242t, 15.8 @ 88.
I'll post the rest of the data shortly.

[760brick90]

My best of the day

R/T .200
60' 7.326
330' 6.308
1/8 9.636 AT 72.86
1000 12.530
1/4 14.967 AT 93.18

My best time and mph to date

[sdturbo]

My best of the day

R/T .200
60' 7.326
330' 6.308
1/8 9.636 AT 72.86
1000 12.530
1/4 14.967 AT 93.18

My best time and mph to date


Nice, that would be well in the single digits with a better short time...;-)

[L8 APEKS]

My slips...

http://i49.tinypic.com/spi2rd.jpg

[fast242]

Best for the day

R/T .336
60ft 2.368
330 6.561
1/8th 9.910 @ 75.07 mph
1000 12.680
1/4th 15.016 @ 95.94

Second gear was really pissy. I could not shift to second quickly and if done to fast, it just about locked me out. I think my "newer" getrag may have a second gear synchro issue.
And 4K rpm clutch dumps are unnatural to me right now. Anything less and the car bogs bad. Just more data and more things to give attention to. Gonna slow down on the racing stuff till funds get more in line with such Shens.

PJ

[dbarton]

Here we go...

RT .442
60' 2.630
330' 6.830
1/8 10.309
MPH 70.98
1000' 13.316
1/4 15.875
MPH 88.02

Dave B

[ThickasaBrick]

My best of the day

R/T .200
60' 7.326
330' 6.308
1/8 9.636 AT 72.86
1000 12.530
1/4 14.967 AT 93.18

My best time and mph to date

Dave, you've given me a renewed hope for my Brick! Also worth noting folks is that today a 7xx spanked all the 2xxs! :-P:-P:nod:

P.J.'s Carne Asada was like butter! Melts in the mouth!

I've been wondering for five years now what my 89 300E runs. Now I wish I didn't know. 16.969 @ 82.49. with the trunk full of all that stuff that you guys saw me remove. For some strange reason the car got slower once all the stuff was removed. (No I wasn't having any traction issues.) My 88's ECU didn't really do much for me, about a half a mile per hour gain which may have been more due to the cooler air than anything. I came prepared to cut my exhaust off if necessary to spank the same era 325 BMW that was coming but since he didn't show, I didn't cut.

I'm glad we got a good turn out today and thanks to being able to visit with you guys in person, I feel like I have a game plan for my brick now. I'm gonna start a thread and Mike please weigh in cause it's looking like your chips will be a part of the mix.

Somebody put a bunch of nice wrenches together with my stuff but before I could find out who they belong to they were gone again. Did they make it back to their proper home?

I still ended up with a bungee cord that doesn't belong to me. It's one of those black ones.

Aaron, I wasn't B.S.ing you. I really do have Jewish blood from my mother's side and Texas blood from father's side. It made for some interesting family dynamics. While my father is a man of the world, his parents were not. So that is the mental picture I had. Please don't misinterpret what I said. I meant no harm or offense.

It was cool finally meeting the rest of you as up until now Westminster Dave and Josh were the only ones I had meet before.

Josh, polished junkyard parts were fastest today!:-P:-P:nod: (I know that's only because you weren't there though, right?)
Regards, Eric

[sdturbo]

Best for the day

R/T .336
60ft 2.368
330 6.561
1/8th 9.910 @ 75.07 mph
1000 12.680
1/4th 15.016 @ 95.94

Second gear was really pissy. I could not shift to second quickly and if done to fast, it just about locked me out. I think my "newer" getrag may have a second gear synchro issue.
And 4K rpm clutch dumps are unnatural to me right now. Anything less and the car bogs bad. Just more data and more things to give attention to. Gonna slow down on the racing stuff till funds get more in line with such Shens.

PJ

I do not see how those times a possible with the way the car was running Friday morning. I think you need to get some practice racing the setup. Sounds like you guys still did more waiting than racing.

[gross polluter]

I do not see how those times a possible with the way the car was running Friday morning. I think you need to get some practice racing the setup. Sounds like you guys still did more waiting than racing.

Word. With 3 of us in the car it was good for a 103-105 trap. Probably has to do with not being able to get in second.

[sdturbo]

Josh, polished junkyard parts were fastest today!:-P:-P:nod: (I know that's only because you weren't there though, right?)
Regards, Eric

Fastest is a stretch, least slow would be a more appropriate way to put it ;-)

[ThickasaBrick]

Josh, my buddies 500E got well into the 13s today (13.8). I fear his head is gonna get so big it's gonna explode. You have to come to the next track day and put some perspective back into his world, OK?
Regards, Eric

[gross polluter]

Since when is a high 13 considered well into the 13's?

[760brick90]

Fastest is a stretch, least slow would be a more appropriate way to put it ;-)

LawL that would be correct BUT we like to inflate our egos

[760brick90]

Does anyone know know who was taking photos at the starting tree? Who ever he was he got a good pic of my burnout on my 2nd race

[speedn_j]

i was there but it was late

[ThickasaBrick]

Since when is a high 13 considered well into the 13's?

When it's not a 13.99 :-P.
Regards, Eric .

[ThickasaBrick]

Does anyone know know who was taking photos at the starting tree? Who ever he was he got a good pic of my burnout on my 2nd race


I only know of this guy but I think he has given up on the place as he hasn't been there since August. http://poolemanphotography.smugmug.com/Drag-Racing-Cars-and-Bikes

He took these of me the day I ran my mid-14s. http://poolemanphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/8390635_oqG3G#550689607_HH2Jz

There was also this guy there taking videos all the time but he seems to have stopped as well. He took this of me running a 14.551 just before I ran my 14.476. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOpeNXP0sMw&feature=channel

I know there are other guys there doing vids and pictures, I just don't know who they are.
Regards, Eric

[fast242]

Word. With 3 of us in the car it was good for a 103-105 trap. Probably has to do with not being able to get in second.

I think it was a combination of things. It was not feeling anywhere near as fast as that night. Current guesses until confirmation is poor shifting ability, not as much boost, hot air intake temps. Today I ran the car in 5th and 14psi was the best I got out of it. And thats with the air box removed and no air filter. And my blow off valve sounds funny now. It sounds like the BOV is not opening. Just ideas, and just more stuff to look into. So Nick, it's not you, it's the car and other parts. If I can get a 14.9 with a getrag and a 15G, I have a problem with my current set up. Just need to find out who is messin up my game. As Tiger Woods would say "I did not have my "A" game today":)

PJ

[L8 APEKS]

...you were also only running 91. ;) But I know you'll find the power. We'll be back out there soon enough!

FWIW, my 850 put down 239whp/263wtq this morning. So 14.4 @ 98.2 is right on par. Can't wait til next time!

[sdturbo]

IMHO the biggest hangup with people getting good times in socal is the fact that its a challenge to get 3 passes a month out here. Im not even going to mess with 1/4 mile stuff until I get some good 1/8 mile passes.

Paul, everything you are describing sounds like you have a boost leak somewhere.

[ThickasaBrick]

I think it was a combination of things. It was not feeling anywhere near as fast as that night. Current guesses until confirmation is poor shifting ability, not as much boost, hot air intake temps. Today I ran the car in 5th and 14psi was the best I got out of it. And thats with the air box removed and no air filter. And my blow off valve sounds funny now. It sounds like the BOV is not opening. Just ideas, and just more stuff to look into. So Nick, it's not you, it's the car and other parts. If I can get a 14.9 with a getrag and a 15G, I have a problem with my current set up. Just need to find out who is messin up my game. As Tiger Woods would say "I did not have my "A" game today":)

PJ

Tiger hasn't even had his "D" game lately. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Question: Could the fact that S.D. county is about a thousand feet lower in altitude also be a contributing factor in the car running better down there than it does up here? I know it's a reach but maybe worth considering? I know boosted cars are less susceptible to altitude but maybe it would help to tune the car at the altitude it lives at? I know I'm reaching here.
Regards, Eric

[fast242]

IMHO the biggest hangup with people getting good times in socal is the fact that its a challenge to get 3 passes a month out here. Im not even going to mess with 1/4 mile stuff until I get some good 1/8 mile passes.

Paul, everything you are describing sounds like you have a boost leak somewhere.

boost leak is very possible and most likely. On the one pass I did with MS on the laptop, I was not able to get a datalog due to getting up to race faster than I thought I would. I should have turned the datalog on well into the lining up area. What I did notice was at the staging and sitting at the light, MS was reading 119 degrees air intake temps with an outside air temp of about 60 degree's. The temps went down to 82 degrees at the end of the track. I did not watch my boost much while going down the track. I was watching more of the RPM's. I kinda wish I had datalogs since that would help in some of the diagnosis. Oh well, some other time. Time to whip out the test equipment. Last night I did 6k rpm in 4th gear and it pulled to there pretty well. Fun stuff. Speed is a journey.

PJ

[sdturbo]

Fun stuff. Speed is a journey.

PJ

Yeah, it takes some actual track time to get a good setup dialed. I thikg we should hit up the 1/8 mile action and get it to do some nice clean track pulls in an environment where you can actually trouble shoot.

The altitude has never made a drastic difference in any of my cars, there is something that changed.

[yamahapro]

When's another one of these drag races?

[ThickasaBrick]

The goofball track still hasn't posted the 2010 street legal drags schedule yet. This will work to our advantage though because the shorter the lead time, the lower the turnout. The lower the turnout, the more runs we get!

There are several people who were there racing who still haven't posted their E/Ts..... :grrr:
Regards, Eric

[d34thd34l3r]

My slips...

http://i49.tinypic.com/spi2rd.jpg

Good job smoking the SI civic.... they're like flies always tiny annoying things....

[Texas240]

http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp30/arsiegal86/FontanaMay5.jpg

heres mine, clutch was slipping quite a bit... now its really slipping, different clutch and flywheel going in hopefully next week and then break this one in properly.

[ThickasaBrick]

Dave, these are a couple of shots of you at ACD in June: http://poolemanphotography.smugmug.com/Drag-Racing-Cars-and-Bikes/California-Speedway-6-27-09/Volvo-6-27/8714738_wLHxM#575876191_YXRyW

Here's that mystery Brick again swatting a fly. (It never get's old). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33fbm_ba8fk&feature=related
Regards, Eric

[L8 APEKS]

heres mine, clutch was slipping quite a bit... now its really slipping, different clutch and flywheel going in hopefully next week and then break this one in properly.

Aaron,

Once you get that clutch and lighter flywheel in, you should be solidly into the 15's. I'm not sure what boost pressure you're running, but it seems to me your setup should be trapping high 80's.

Your results are gonna be much different on our next trip. :nod:

If I keep the Corrado, I have some plans for it that might make it a contender in the "decent ET" department...thinking about ditching the blower for a turbo, and swapping the 02A 5-spd for an 02M 6-spd w/ LSD.

[Texas240]

Aaron,

Once you get that clutch and lighter flywheel in, you should be solidly into the 15's. I'm not sure what boost pressure you're running, but it seems to me your setup should be trapping high 80's.

Your results are gonna be much different on our next trip. :nod:

If I keep the Corrado, I have some plans for it that might make it a contender in the "decent ET" department...thinking about ditching the blower for a turbo, and swapping the 02A 5-spd for an 02M 6-spd w/ LSD.

Sean,

Bad news, Rimco said it would take over 4 hours to lighten down to even 23 or 24 pounds. So I told them not to bother cause it was going to be to costly so im running it as is. Its beens surfaced and balanced. When i get more money and I want to hit low 15's I'll get RSI's version. For now, it should be fine as long as I wear it in properly and not go on boost.

Your Corrado is pretty damn fast as it is. Wouldnt mind seeing what it can do with a turbo on it. Let me whats happening with it, i'll come by and hand you tools:lol:

[ZVOLV]

Wish I coulda been there. You guys need to come to racelegal in sd. I did 44 passes in one night last month.

I'm with Josh, I'm not racing 1/4 till my car is dialed in on the 1/8th. There is also Barona which I hear is faster. It's a drag strip and not a parking lot.

[Texas240]

Wish I coulda been there. You guys need to come to racelegal in sd. I did 44 passes in one night last month.

I'm with Josh, I'm not racing 1/4 till my car is dialed in on the 1/8th. There is also Barona which I hear is faster. It's a drag strip and not a parking lot.

you speak of the holy grail:-P

[ZVOLV]

You just need pants, helmet, $30, and to pass tech. You can race with passengers if you go slower than 8.5.

Track limit is 6.0 or 115mph tho guys so don't turn the boost on your .50 trim too high.

[fast242]

You just need pants, helmet, $30, and to pass tech. You can race with passengers if you go slower than 8.5.

Track limit is 6.0 or 115mph tho guys so don't turn the boost on your .50 trim too high.

ANother 1/8th track. And more $$ to run than Irwindale, but not much. At least you have two choices in San Diego, and Qualcomm, can easily do 15 runs in one night. I have a boost leak, or something worse. It now takes some serious rpms to get to 10 psi. I upped my boost controller, and got one pull to 19 psi, and then it stopped boosting basically. Real slow to boost. Fun.

PJ

[sdturbo]

That's a good way to take the turbo out, please check for leaks.

[d34thd34l3r]

So when's the next get together?

[ZVOLV]

Barona is this weekend:

http://www.baronadrags.com/

Website says there is free camping and race fuel is available at the track. And its only $20. Tempting.....

[fast242]

That's a good way to take the turbo out, please check for leaks.

Eww, don't need that. I have some time today to take a look.

PJ

[ThickasaBrick]

Wish I coulda been there. You guys need to come to racelegal in sd. I did 44 passes in one night last month.

I'm with Josh, I'm not racing 1/4 till my car is dialed in on the 1/8th. There is also Barona which I hear is faster. It's a drag strip and not a parking lot.
It is true that Barona's also only an 1/8 mile right? I've already addressed 1/8 mile tracks. :grrr:

I always look at the time spent between runs not as "waiting" but as time to let the car get nice and cool so I can get a faster E/T! :cool::-D
Regards, Eric

[ZVOLV]

I always look at the time spent between runs not as "waiting" but as time to let the car get nice and cool so I can get a faster E/T! :cool::-D
Regards, Eric

Some of my best runs have been when doing hotlaps. IE. finish the race and then start another race immediately after.

[760brick90]

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Check out times 3:43 and 3:51
and for the WoW WTF factor 2:22-35

[ThickasaBrick]

Some of my best runs have been when doing hotlaps. IE. finish the race and then start another race immediately after.

Sometimes there is something to that. The ECU seems to go into a "Let's Party" mode, but that only works if the weather's not too warm, the cooler the better. I haven't seen a car yet (especially a boosted one) that gets faster when it's engine is on the warm side.
Regards, Eric

[ThickasaBrick]

I only know of this guy but I think he has given up on the place as he hasn't been there since August. http://poolemanphotography.smugmug.com/Drag-Racing-Cars-and-Bikes

He took these of me the day I ran my mid-14s. http://poolemanphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/8390635_oqG3G#550689607_HH2Jz

There was also this guy there taking videos all the time but he seems to have stopped as well. He took this of me running a 14.551 just before I ran my 14.476. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOpeNXP0sMw&feature=channel

I know there are other guys there doing vids and pictures, I just don't know who they are.
Regards, Eric

Well it turns out the YouTube video taker was there after all. It just took him extra long to post the videos this time. I didn't see anything of any interest to us though. http://www.youtube.com./profile?user=zeuceone#g/u (This is a different dude than the one that made the video that Dave posted above.)
Regards, Eric

[ThickasaBrick]

Edited the above post. See above.
Regards, Eric