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ryan242v
04-06-2011, 10:27 PM
.....P1800 ES. I'm stoked about acquiring this old two door wagon. My boss was given this car a couple weeks ago and he really didn't want it and gave it to me. Originally we were supposed to restore the car then the customer backed out and gave the car to my boss.

It's really a weird story how we ended up with the car. When I get some free time I will start a build thread for the beater and tell the story of the cars arrival. It will be awhile before it's nice anyway.

The car, it is a P1800 ES with the B20F engine and the M41 five speed ( electric overdrive) and a 4.30 rear gear that I assume is stock.

The car needs a lot of work to be nice, but, I am just going to get it driving and cruise it for now. The engine would not turn over when I got the car. I pulled the oil pan and started pulling main and rod caps till the engine turned. Most of the bearing were rusted as the car was sitting in water at one point during a flood in South East Texas, where the car came from. The cylinders look good from the bottom and the top end of the engine looks good. I am going to pull the engine and clean the crank and get new bearings.

I only have a few cell phone pics. I will post better pictures when I bring a camera to work.

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This will be my third Volvo that I own at the moment. It will join my 242 and 244 if I can find space for it. Mind everyone that I have four cars now and live with my parents ( Spruill the younger it can happen).

I am stoked and hopefully can get this thing going in the next few weeks between grad. school classes.

If anyone has any experience with these jewels let me know of any critical pieces that should be replaced on this car, that has sat for ten years and in a couple feet of water for some time, I would appreciate it.

crazy240
04-06-2011, 10:34 PM
Awesome and good luck. I just got me a 122 in similar condition. Needs a timing gear.

Redwood Chair
04-06-2011, 11:35 PM
Nice start.
Pull the seats and carpets and check the floor pan.

sim
04-06-2011, 11:52 PM
I like the 1800ES so much better than the coupe.

OHC redblock transplant?

16v maybe?

Good on you for saving it.

245gti
04-06-2011, 11:56 PM
There is no "p" in the model designation. It's an 1800ES. The "p" was dropped in 1963...;-)

Nice car...

pwschuh
04-07-2011, 09:15 AM
Nice start.
Pull the seats and carpets and check the floor pan.

+ eleventy brazilion. That's a cool car and a great driver/project if the body is sound.

blu92in99
04-07-2011, 10:31 AM
Nice 1800ES.

There is no "p" in the model designation. It's an 1800ES. The "p" was dropped in 1963...;-)+1

1970_Volvo_142S
04-07-2011, 12:05 PM
Very cool, and those are stock rear gears, that's a great combination with the M41, just be sure to run 93 octane in it. Hope to hear more about it.

spruill244
04-07-2011, 01:19 PM
Cool man, looks like a fun project.
And no it cant happen.

spruill244
04-07-2011, 01:19 PM
Cool man, looks like a fun project.
And no it cant happen.

ryan242v
04-07-2011, 08:31 PM
Nice start.
Pull the seats and carpets and check the floor pan.

The floors and underside sheet metal are not that bad. The last owner was a Volvo Penta mechanic and sprayed the underside with some thick rubbery marine paint, I think. There is however rust holes in the rockers and rear under the rear hatch. And so far I haven't had an issue with any bolts, all have been replaced with stainless or are coated with antiseize.

ryan242v
04-07-2011, 08:34 PM
Cool man, looks like a fun project.
And no it cant happen.

Ah ha ha, just bustin your chops bro. I am struggling to keep the three cars that I have. Adding this fourth car is going to be quite the task.

ryan242v
04-07-2011, 08:36 PM
Very cool, and those are stock rear gears, that's a great combination with the M41, just be sure to run 93 octane in it. Hope to hear more about it.

This is the B20F with like 8.5:1 or 9:1, you sure it needs 93 octane. I could see the B20E with the 10.5:1

Redwood Chair
04-07-2011, 08:40 PM
Should have 410's with the M 41.
391's with the BW 35.
You could try regular,but I bet it pings when you floor it.

ryan242v
04-07-2011, 08:47 PM
Well work was slow, actually non-existent. So, I pulled the "1800 ES" engine.
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I struggled for awhile to get the trans seperated from the engine. The pilot bearing and input shaft for the trans were rusted, along with the flywheel and pressure plate. It took some tinkering.

Once out and trans seperated, I figured why not yank the think apart.

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The ports were pretty good on the intake side. They don't even need gasket matching.
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It had one broken valve spring. The guy who gave us the car also got me valve springs. He works for Volvo Penta and because the springs cross-referenced over to a marine engine he got them for $1.20 each.

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Internals
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The nice flywheel. Not really that bad, just needs a resurface.
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The M41 next to the head
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ryan242v
04-07-2011, 08:51 PM
I like the 1800ES so much better than the coupe.

OHC redblock transplant?

16v maybe?

Good on you for saving it.

Ahh na na na. I can't swap the engine. Gotta keep it nastalgic.

Actually as part of the deal with my boss giving me this car he won't let me hack it up. The only thing I would be able to get away with would be upping the compression, big cam and webers. He's a Porsche guy and loves webers and compression.

I really would like to put a Five cylinder in it, if I had the choice.

Redwood Chair
04-07-2011, 09:46 PM
Slap it back together with a new timing gear set,and see if the D-jet still works.
Compression on the B 20 F is 8.7-1.

Hootbot
04-08-2011, 12:38 AM
You're really getting **** done, can't wait for updates.

745 TurboGreasel
04-08-2011, 02:33 AM
I really would like to put a Five cylinder in it, if I had the choice.
Cut down a B30:)

Redwood Chair
04-08-2011, 09:42 AM
Cut down a B30:)

:lol:

+1
# 5 runs hot anyway.
Lop it off and JB it back together.;-)

1970_Volvo_142S
04-08-2011, 11:23 AM
This is the B20F with like 8.5:1 or 9:1, you sure it needs 93 octane. I could see the B20E with the 10.5:1

Like Redwood Chair said, you could try lower octane, but it will ping when you floor it. My 142 also has the B20F, but it runs best on 93 octane, which I buy at Costco for $3.58 a gallon (at least that's what it was a week ago, who knows now). Hope to see this on the road this summer.

Sir Psycho
04-08-2011, 06:24 PM
Rust really likes to hide inside the inner front fenders. There's a panel that you can remove in the rear of the front wheel wells to check inside

ryan242v
10-24-2011, 08:34 PM
Yeah. It's been almost six months since I got this car and still have accomplished nothing! I did get the crank cleaned up, still standard:)

It's temporary home
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The beater in the background is getting first priority, although it does deserve it and has waited longer. My car can wait a bit.

harribert
10-25-2011, 05:50 PM
Gorgeous 356.

ryan242v
10-25-2011, 10:00 PM
Gorgeous 356.

Not just any 356 though. This one happens to be a Carrera 2.

Jeh
10-25-2011, 10:47 PM
Not just any 356 though. This one happens to be a Carrera 2.

Nice. :nod:

harribert
10-25-2011, 11:45 PM
Indeed!