Portland Area Dyno Day/PIR Night Drags

[NChoy]

The Pacific Northwest VCOA Chapter and Oregon Volvo Tuners Club is organizing a full day of Volvo-related fun.

When: Saturday, September 25
Where: Torque Freaks Dyno, 12903 NE Airport Way in N. Portland (Zip is 97230 if you want to MapQuest it)
Time: 9 a.m.

You get 3 dyno runs for a total of $29.99, which is a steal of a deal (Summertime only special pricing). For more info/pics, visit their site at www.torquefreaks.com. This is open to all on a first-come, first-serve basis, but OVT club members and Volvo drivers will be given preference. I'd like to give TF the courtesy of a final car count, so I need your R.S.V.P.'s... see below.


But wait... there's more.

After a day of playing on the dyno, we're heading to Portland International Raceway for Late-Night Drag Racing. Gates open at 7 p.m. If not too many cars show up for the dyno, we may have some free time until PIR is open. I'm sure we can find something to do for a few hours. Come out and represent West Coast and pump up those 1/4 mile numbers!


Optional post-PIR cruise:

If the mood strikes us and it's not too late, a cruise through downtown Portland on our way home, or stop off somewhere for coffee/ice cream might be in order. We can discuss the options at PIR that night.

I need your R.S.V.P.'s for the dyno... please PM me or send me an e-mail. I'm going to start a list, because we may have to cut it off at 12-15 cars. If you can't make it to the dyno, but would like to come out for PIR and the cruise, please do so. Or if you can't make it to PIR, and don't want to run your car on the dyno, you're more than welcome to come out and watch either/or. Either way, let me know if you're coming, and what part of the event you intend to participate in.

[byte1032]

im in just need some help with my car if tony or you could help i think you both would be able to figure it out for some reason.

[Inc3pt]

Im in for all of it, should I still PM you?

[The Aspirator]

I am HIGHLY interested, although that date is still pretty far away so I can't quite make plans yet. I'd like to get my Getrag in before I really start beating on the car.

Keep us posted.

John

[NChoy]

Here's who I have so far. I'll add to this list as more people confirm. Remember, we're cutting it off at 12, with 13-on going to the waiting list. Be advised, those of you who are not OVT members may be 'bumped' by those who are members but have not yet confirmed. I'm going to close this list (and the overflow list) on Sept. 11. After we confirm all the dyno attendees, I'll make a list for PIR as well. To anyone who wants to dyno on the 25th but cannot, we can always schedule another dyno day in early October if there are enough people who are seriously interested.

Confirmed for the dyno (order we will run the cars):
wiggin (Nathan)
Sean (Sean) (Will have two cars)
NChoy (Nick)
klr142 (friend is bringing a 240SX)
budweiser_man (Matt)
coldfusion21 (Jared)
inc3pt (Tye)
byte1032 (Ross)
reeferman (Tony)
Slobodan
volvorelix (Cameron)
Rob(Matt's friend from IPD)
OZ (Matt's friend from IPD)

Edit (9/15/04): Eric's out... he blew up his tranny.
Edit (9/17/04): We now have 12 cars. Three more and I'll close the list.
Edit (9/22/04): I've moved Nathan and Sean up to the top since they have committments they need to attend to. This will be the order we run the cars. We still have room for a few more cars, but we'll go forward with this list as is. If we have last minute shows, they'll be at the back of the pack.
Edit (9/23/04): We now have 15 cars. The list is officially closed. All others will go onto the backup list and can run if Torque Freaks has time, or if anyone drops out. See you all Saturday!

[jackbombay]

I'll come out to watch the drags for sure, but am brickless for a while.

A note about drag racing at PIR, there is a one time fee of $10 to get signed up and then $20 every night you want to race, $8 to spectate.


-Jack

[byte1032]

i tried but no one really looked at it, weird issues with teh fuel system that i cant barely describe and something a miss with my tranny either a busted pressure plate and a busted clutch fork retaining bolt. or just the bolt issue. dont know but think i have to drop teh tranny to find out. wouldnt mind getting a better plate while i have it off though. gonna need it for rally

[NChoy]

i tried but no one really looked at it, weird issues with teh fuel system that i cant barely describe and something a miss with my tranny either a busted pressure plate and a busted clutch fork retaining bolt. or just the bolt issue. dont know but think i have to drop teh tranny to find out. wouldnt mind getting a better plate while i have it off though. gonna need it for rally

Well, I can't do any tranny work at my place (not enough room, and the damn association rules don't allow that sort of mechanical work). Might want to ask Tony.

Is the car getting fuel? Is it starving at WOT? Do you have a pressure gauge that you can check the system with? Hard to diagnose this via a forum...

[grebnut]

i would really love to make it down for this day... i am working furiously to get my car all back together, but its iffy if i will get it back by then... and i have a feeling the clutch will give out as soon as i get it tuned, but it would be fun to come down... so can i be tenative? i cant say for sure, though... later,

ben

[byte1032]

association rules??

[wiggin]

do we know if they will allow us to do any tuning during our 3 passes or is it a "quick on and off" thing?

[NChoy]

do we know if they will allow us to do any tuning during our 3 passes or is it a "quick on and off" thing?

No, only the $29.99 only allows for baseline runs. Tuning is per-hour and we're not set up to do that on the 25th.

Byte... do you mean club rules? If so I have to think about that. I'm sure we need some sort of rule book. I'll get back to you.

[volvogeek]

Is that three successive runs, with a short rest between? That might be why they're not allowing tuning between runs... If I can get my car(s) up to stage0 by that time, I might consider showing up. Or I might show up any way to join the peanut gallery. :)

[byte1032]

Nick--> "Well, I can't do any tranny work at my place (not enough room, and the damn association rules don't allow that sort of mechanical work). Might want to ask Tony."

what association rules?

[NChoy]

Nick--> "Well, I can't do any tranny work at my place (not enough room, and the damn association rules don't allow that sort of mechanical work). Might want to ask Tony."

what association rules?

I live in a townhouse. The association, (aka Homeowner's Association, aka Neighborhood Nazis) don't take kindly to all my car modding and mechanical work. They're a bunch of old farts that want to turn our entire condo complex into an old-folks retirement community. When I had my 242Ti, and was doing the front brake job, they left me a nasty-gram with a warning that if I did it again they'd assess a $100 fine. The following week I did the rear brakes, but they didn't fine me.

That's why I can't wait to move into a house. Jill is tired of living in a townhouse too, so hopefully we'll start looking around for something in the near future.

[NChoy]

Is that three successive runs, with a short rest between? That might be why they're not allowing tuning between runs... If I can get my car(s) up to stage0 by that time, I might consider showing up. Or I might show up any way to join the peanut gallery. :)

That's right... three runs, no rest in between. Matrix did the same thing, but since we had rented their dyno for the day, we were doing tuning. Can't do the same thing at TorqueFreaks unless we rent the dyno.

[byte1032]

ahh ok. location isnt an issue for me i can get anywhere and am able to work at home i just dont know whats the issues. maybe you tony and i want to get a beer some day and take a look well more of a listen, but let me know. sure we have plenty that needs sorting through with OVT too.

[volvoS70]

I MIGHT be down too, wanna see some washinton peoeple go

[Inc3pt]

Edit: Ignore this whole post, it looks like they posted as well saying its completely unrelated to the summer dyno special price. Im an idiot :-P

Nick, You really should call and make sure that we can still do it for that price on the 25th.

Because another car-oriented board I post on, TorqueFreaks has made a post saying September 18th is the "Pacific NW End of Summer Dyno Event"...They're having 1000whp cars and people dyno while theres free food for everyone and if someone maxes out their dyno, everyone runs free :-P ....Point is, something tells me this is the deadline for their deal, and that obviously means we cant do it on the 18th, due to their party.

So should we call and see about it? Because I just think this sounds alot like the deal is going to be over after that. Which also rules out a cheap second dyno day for those that dont fit into our first plans. And if it *does* turn out that the 18th is the last day, we need to seriously think about moving it back to the 11th, and quickly.

Get back to us with any info you can Nick, unless you'd like me to call them.

[NChoy]

According to Mike at TF, (He's a Volvo guy too by the way), the 18th is an "all-comers" event. They'll be serving free food, and giving away prizes to the highest horsepower cars in the 4, 6, 8 and "other" cylinder category.

He said that our event (on the 25th) is still on, and we have the $29.99 price locked in (unless you elect to have air/fuel metering, then you pay $10 extra).

Here's the catch to this pricing: If we have less than 8 cars, we'll pay for the air/fuel metering as $10 extra, but if we have 8 or more cars, the air/fuel metering will be free. So let's get this list going and try to get 10-14 cars!

So we're good to go. Inc3pt, good observation, but you can calm down now.

[Inc3pt]

Here's the catch to this pricing: If we have less than 8 cars, we'll pay for the air/fuel metering as $10 extra, but if we have 8 or more cars, the air/fuel metering will be free. So let's get this list going and try to get 10-14 cars!

So we're good to go. Inc3pt, good observation, but you can calm down now.

Thats not a catch, thats freaking awesome. Woohoo for air/fuel metering! Im pretty sure we can easily break 8 cars :-D

[klr142]

Unless i get the '75 engine from Sean and can get it installed, i won't be able to dyno my car. READ THIS F**KING S**T! (http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?p=222730&posted=1#post222730)

So, can someone help me install this engine and my dual SUs which arrived on monday? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! I'd need these things:

-A location to do the engine swap
-A person with a truck/trailer to tow my car and the engine to swap
-Someplace to keep my current engine after it's taken out of my car
-Some person(s) to help me with the install and a way to get the engine up and out of the car.

Crap.

[NChoy]

All,

This is partly to bump this thread, but also to update you.

We hit 10 people for the dyno this morning, but we're now back down to a possible 9 because klr142 broke his car. If anyone can help him out please do so. I don't have a truck, nor do I have a place to help him do the motor swap.

(BTW, if you're in a pinch and need a two, call Handy Andy's Towing in Portland. Not only are they hella nice, but they're friggin cheap! Costed me $50 to tow my 242DL from No.Portland to John Sargent's house in Vancouver, WA).

Okay, now back to the thread. Since we now have 9 confirmed people for the dyno, the cost of air/fuel metering will be included in the $29.99 price. I'm still going to hold this list open till we hit 14 cars (but I think we're going to hit that number a lot faster than I originally thought, so if you're serious about going, hit me up NOW to get your reservation!) Remember, preference is given to OVT members, but all comers are welcome. There will be a standby list as well, and if anyone on the main list drops off, the standby list will take effect.

[wiggin]

nick,

im not sure if you had me down for more than one car but my friends bailed on me so just put me down for one car for sure...

[NChoy]

And this is important.

To all of you who are dynoing your cars on the 25th: Make sure your car is in good running condition. Not only is it embarrassing for your car to be running like crap and not be able to make 3rd gear without dying, but it will waste an incredible amount of time to put your car on the dyno to only have to pull it off because it's running like ass to begin with.

So, spend some time tuning it up and get it running right. The dyno is NOT the place for trouble-shooting problems that exist on your motors... Take care of those issues NOW!

[Sean]

And this is important.

To all of you who are dynoing your cars on the 25th: Make sure your car is in good running condition. Not only is it embarrassing for your car to be running like crap and not be able to make 3rd gear without dying, but it will waste an incredible amount of time to put your car on the dyno to only have to pull it off because it's running like ass to begin with.

So, spend some time tuning it up and get it running right. The dyno is NOT the place for trouble-shooting problems that exist on your motors... Take care of those issues NOW!


Hey nick I was like an hour late in installing my engine last friday to run it so put me and my buddy down on the list one ae86 and one NA p1800.
Sean

[Sean McElderry]

We're looking forward to seeing you guys on the 25th! If there are any questions I can answer, just let me know.

[mdlandon]

All,

This is partly to bump this thread, but also to update you.

We hit 10 people for the dyno this morning, but we're now back down to a possible 9 because klr142 broke his car. If anyone can help him out please do so. I don't have a truck, nor do I have a place to help him do the motor swap.

(BTW, if you're in a pinch and need a two, call Handy Andy's Towing in Portland. Not only are they hella nice, but they're friggin cheap! Costed me $50 to tow my 242DL from No.Portland to John Sargent's house in Vancouver, WA).

Okay, now back to the thread. Since we now have 9 confirmed people for the dyno, the cost of air/fuel metering will be included in the $29.99 price. I'm still going to hold this list open till we hit 14 cars (but I think we're going to hit that number a lot faster than I originally thought, so if you're serious about going, hit me up NOW to get your reservation!) Remember, preference is given to OVT members, but all comers are welcome. There will be a standby list as well, and if anyone on the main list drops off, the standby list will take effect.


Well The new fuel system will be in by then so I can bring "Orange Krytonite" down there
I am sure a lot of people would like to see what I have done thus far to formerly tuffs volvo
so if there is still room I am totally down
Mark

[NChoy]

Well The new fuel system will be in by then so I can bring "Orange Krytonite" down there
I am sure a lot of people would like to see what I have done thus far to formerly tuffs volvo
so if there is still room I am totally down
Mark

If you are totally serious, and will show up, I'll put you on the list. There is one, possibly two more spots open.

[klr142]

:cool: If you are totally serious, and will show up, I'll put you on the list. There is one, possibly two more spots open.

I hope that possibly two is referring to me being able to make it or not. The motor i got from sean isn't going to work out, but we're getting a 90 day warrented motor from B and R wrecking and it's got 175 psi compression all accross the board... How bad can that be? $270, for a complete motor, everything on it, ready to drop in. (except i'll be taking whatever is on it for intake off and installing my freshly rebuilt and modified SUs on it.... :cool: ) Hopefully we can get the motor tomorrow, and start installing it and see how it goes. You can follow it here (http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=24479) ... :cool:

[andrewlcraft]

So how picky will the track be about age cracks in tires? I was noticing some on my rear tires yesterday. Hopefully won't be an issue.....

[byte1032]

far as i know the only age the track cares about for racing is being over 18 or having your parents sign the waiver form is you are under. but you might want to call and check with PIR.

[Inc3pt]

So how picky will the track be about age cracks in tires? I was noticing some on my rear tires yesterday. Hopefully won't be an issue.....

My tires are pretty bald, I passed tech easily...

[andrewlcraft]

My tires are pretty bald, I passed tech easily...
Good to know :) Wasn't sure how picky they got. The rears actually have a good amount of tread left, just some cracks from sitting unused for a year, while the front are working toward "racing slick" status.

[klr142]

Um, I guess you can count me in... the motor still has lots of work to do, getting cleaned out and such. And possibly getting a freshened FI head on it, a new timing gear, and an IPD STREET PERFORMANCE CAM. Only if it needs it though... But this engine is DIRTY. But it runs FAST, and i can't even get more than 3/4 throttle yet, and it isn't ready to be flogged yet, so who know's how fast it really is... But let me tell you, it's a MUCH different feeling compared to the Weber, just in how less throttle moves you more, and there's no hesitation CRAP and stuff. The clutch and flywheel I don't like though, it engages slowly, possibly it's slipping? But it's a different type of clutch, and a much heavier flywheel too... :-( :grrr: We'll see what we can do...

[reeferman]

ill be there

[djecko]

Hey tony wanna help me do a compression test on my car? or atleast help me or show me how? Not sure if i can make it, cause i might be getting a job. Jiffy Lube! Free full synth motor oil for me!!!

[reeferman]

no problem
if i can get away from work ill make the 25th
oregon hasone of the highest unemploment rates in the us.
no one in the valley wants to work.
any of you guys want to drop out of school and make 10.00 hr.

just kidding

tony

[djecko]

how long do you think it would take? maybe i can just meet you guys up where ever and we can run a test, i just wanna know why my car runs like crap.

tony what is your plan for the day on saturday?

[reeferman]

ill get there when it starts

[klr142]

If tony lets us, we can go over to his place anytime this friday or later(unless i'm working) and use his compression tester. I can show you how, it's real simple, all you need is the compression tester. If Tony lets us get into his garage, we can do it in less than 15 minutes or so... Well, it depends on how hard it is to take out the spark plugs on a 240... I don't know. :-P

And guys, I'll be there, ready to run, unless something happens in the next week and a half until we get to have the "party". I've currently got 488 miles on the new engine, gonna do some tune up crap on it and swap some manifolds around and hook up my CAI and I'll be good to go. That's not including the two oil changes that i'll be performing beforehand.(one'll be done tomorrow...) :cool:

Nick, how's the list looking? I have a friend with a 91 240SX who wants to dyno his car, we'll probably dyno it tomorrow afternoon if we can... Gotta give them a call in the morning. :-D

[NChoy]

All,

Check the list on the first page of this thread... I'm updating it when I can.

Anyone wants to jump on the list, we still have room. Either PM me, call me, e-mail me, send carrier pidgeon...

[Sean]

Cameron is in?? damnit I was hoping to have the highest powered B20 but I am pretty sure his SC puts me out of the running for that.. dangit.../ oh well I still need to find a cluitch that will hold..
Sean

[klr142]

My friend wants to dyno his car with us. He came to Jared's house for a while, so that makes him kinda part of the club... :-P Yeah, so, he'd like to join us with his car. And I just changed my oil today, it was as dirty as, if not dirtier than his oil, which had 3k miles on it compared to my 582 miles... I'll get another 500 plus on it and then drop in another filter and some M1 and call it good. I just got the carbs setup to give me full throttle and it doesn't seem to be much faster than when i had partial throttle... :-( I'm kinda dissappointed with the lack of top end pull that i was kind of looking forward to with the SUs, that may have something to do with a worn out cam(or just the fact that it's a C cam and not a D cam or something hotter...) and/or the smaller intake valves of this non-FI head... Should i get a new cam before we go to the Dyno??? I'll take some votes... Yes? No?

Ps. And I really want an electric engine fan... This direct one is CRAP, I can feel it slowing down the engine when i take off the throttle up there... I might just take it off when i'm on the dyno, i mean, why not... They have big fans right? But i want it off when i get to the dragstrip too, but it'll overheat in the amount of time it'll be idling... Does anyone have an electric fan sitting around that I can jury rig???

[budweiser_man]

I will most defently be there, the NEW turbo is in! So where are we meeting on saturday, at torque freaks?

[Inc3pt]

My name is Tye Trask in case you were wondering for that 1st page list... ;-)

[klr142]

Yeah, he knows our names...(member list) I dunno why he only has some of them listed...(why's that nick?)

[Inc3pt]

Yeah, he knows our names...(member list) I dunno why he only has some of them listed...(why's that nick?)

:-P

[NChoy]

Yeah, he knows our names...(member list) I dunno why he only has some of them listed...(why's that nick?)

Because sometimes I can be a real idiot. Mostly due to sleep deprivation.

As for your car, I would whole-heartedly recommend an electric fan. Not sure where you can get one, but I think there's lots of them at the U-Pull. Look for mid-80s GM cars with FWD engines. Chevy Cavaliers and Oldsmobile Omegas come to mind. I think the shroud is even the same size as the Volvo radiator if I'm not mistaken.

Also, if you're going to upgrade your cam, do it now so you'll have time to break it in. It'll definitely help with your top end.

[klr142]

Because sometimes I can be a real idiot. Mostly due to sleep deprivation.

As for your car, I would whole-heartedly recommend an electric fan. Not sure where you can get one, but I think there's lots of them at the U-Pull. Look for mid-80s GM cars with FWD engines. Chevy Cavaliers and Oldsmobile Omegas come to mind. I think the shroud is even the same size as the Volvo radiator if I'm not mistaken.

Also, if you're going to upgrade your cam, do it now so you'll have time to break it in. It'll definitely help with your top end.

Well, i guess you better get yo self som mo sleep. Yeah, my friend and I were going to go check out a jy yesterday, but it started raining... As for the cam, yeah... I'll call Shayne about it and see what he says.

[Slobodan]

This Sunday Morning as I was driving my GT out to my parents place where I was to meet up with a friend to help him with his exhuast, I noticed my rear end making a terrible whiring sound that got worse and worse, and when I'd go down to speeds up 20mph because of a school zone, my car would Buck, alot, and make an awful clacking sounds. All sounds are clearly comming from the rear end. :'(

So I got off my lazy ass, fixed my friends car, and got my 740 Turbo up and going, have the heater working, the windshield wipers working, the engine doesn't over heat now... but the idle speed motor is buggered up and the turbo will glow red hot after driving like normal for a while.

What does a glowing red turbo mean?? too lean or too rich? or could it be from a plugged up catalitic converter?

[byte1032]

hey i still need to drop my tranny to check it all out. im gonna go to DIP and get a new clutch cable tormow, and then yeah call me.

[Inc3pt]

This Sunday Morning as I was driving my GT out to my parents place where I was to meet up with a friend to help him with his exhuast, I noticed my rear end making a terrible whiring sound that got worse and worse, and when I'd go down to speeds up 20mph because of a school zone, my car would Buck, alot, and make an awful clacking sounds. All sounds are clearly comming from the rear end. :'(

So I got off my lazy ass, fixed my friends car, and got my 740 Turbo up and going, have the heater working, the windshield wipers working, the engine doesn't over heat now... but the idle speed motor is buggered up and the turbo will glow red hot after driving like normal for a while.

What does a glowing red turbo mean?? too lean or too rich? or could it be from a plugged up catalitic converter?

Glowing turbo if its been driven normally could mean its lean, check it with a multimeter while driving around?

[Slobodan]

It could be alot of things. but my bro did a quick fix the cold start idling problem it was having. he unplugged the idle control vavle and I believe that might have caused it. but then again, the cat can be plugged up, the timming coule be off yet. Seeing as how I just slapped the engine together after repairing the blown head. Drove it to work today, and It made the 50 miles journey just fine. drove it to lunch just now, and it seems like its getting more power. I definately don't need to press the throttle very far to get the car to move. :)
but It still needs more work. I have some mystery sounds comming from the front left, and brake work. so to Tony for the drags I might be passing on that. I will however might still dyno. I'll still show up. I just don't want to wreck this car at the track. my GT is going in for its year long transformation now. will be repaiting it fixing body damage, new windsheild, new motor/tranny/driveline/rear end for sure! seeing as how the rear end broke yesterday.

[Vovo poser]

Aha the return of vovo poser, i might come to the drags that night, im fixing my car right now, all thats left is a some seals for the turbo oil return and some new studs for my fan and i should be ready to go

[Sean]

So are there any objections to me and my buddy running kinda early and bailing? kinda have a problem in that the contractor friend that is helping me on my house (installing some windows and doing some drywall) is only available this weekend and he will probably turn up his nose in the future if he thought I was bailing on his help to make a dyno run.. so if I could run early and come back it would be best... Thanks!
Sean

[stylngle2003]

poser, your car looks hot!!!!! so much better with the black and red now

good luck at the drags guys, but i have a feelin the east coast will reign supreme at the end of the year

[Inc3pt]

poser, your car looks hot!!!!! so much better with the black and red now

good luck at the drags guys, but i have a feelin the east coast will reign supreme at the end of the year

We'll see about that :-D

[The Aspirator]

good luck at the drags guys, but i have a feelin the east coast will reign supreme at the end of the year
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[NChoy]

I'm bumping this for freshness, but also because I edited the list. The order of appearance is now the order that we'll run the cars. The first three cars being because the drivers have to leave early. The rest of the list is in the same order of those who e-mailed/PM'd me for the event.

[Vovo poser]

my car does look hot, thats because im driving it,
it will look hotter after i unleash, oh wait, i won't reveal my plans yet...
Ah Hahahaha HA Ha... Haha?

WEST SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Felixredwoody]

Hey I might make an apperance just to watch the dyno runs and see some cool volvos fundage is tight right now or I'd say I wanna do a dyno run too. Sounds like a fun day for any fellow volvo nut. Tim

[Sean]

Someone on here (INCpT?) wanted to buy a old style turbo manifold (modified for any T3 turbo) I have and a stock DP w/out a cat. If you wanted me to bring it; Saturday would be the day I am going to be leaving early but I can bring it easily enough. PM me or e-mail me at volvo_p1800@hotmail.com
Sean

[Slobodan]

OK guys looks like I won't be able to dyno the GT, it is officially put down for the winter.
I will dyno the 740. but I won't drag the 740.
thanks

[klr142]

Does anyone have any coronas handy with tires on them that i can use for the day? Or any 14" wheels for that matter with tires on them that are decent enough to use for the day? Just to borrow them, i don't want to keep them. I can give you a dollar for letting me use them... :-P I just need two. My back tires are already balding, and they're 15" steelies. I want something that is a little easier to spin(not burnout with, just accelerate faster, and instead of breaking my driveline, they'll spin first...) and some other tires that are smaller in diameter. I don't care what condition the tires are in as long as they're driveable and will hold air. Anyone? Or i wouldn't mind borrowing some 15" alloys either with tires that are good. I just know that Coronas would be the best for the day... I used to have some... Anyone have any? Any takers? :???: Lemme know guys, thanks!

Maybe you could just bring them along with you to the dyno and i can swap them there, and then after the drags swap real quick again and hand them back over to you or something... :please: Please?

[budweiser_man]

There might be one guy from here at ipd that might go. he has a 82 242ti modded. some of you might know him from here at ipd his name is Rob Arnald (lucky.)

[NChoy]

Here is the final list for tomorrow: This is also the order in which we will run the cars. The list is closed at 15 cars. All others who want to run their cars will go on the backup list, and can run if anyone below cancels, or if Torque Freaks has time. The first few people should be there around 9am. I plan to be there just before 10am.

Address: 12905 NE Airport Way, Portland 97230.
Website: http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/

wiggin (Nathan)
Sean (Sean) (Will have two cars)
NChoy (Nick)
klr142 (friend is bringing a 240SX)
budweiser_man (Matt)
coldfusion21 (Jared)
inc3pt (Tye)
byte1032 (Ross)
reeferman (Tony)
Slobodan
volvorelix (Cameron)
Rob(Matt's friend from IPD)
OZ (Matt's friend from IPD)

[Sean]

I'll be there with my p1800 on...
I'm gonna think about tuning it since it's running crappy but I think I'm just going to run it cause I'm lazy as hell.
Sean

[NChoy]

I'll be there with my p1800 on...
I'm gonna think about tuning it since it's running crappy but I think I'm just going to run it cause I'm lazy as hell.
Sean

You can tune, but you'll have to pay the hourly fee instead of the flat $29.99. Up to you. But there's also a time issue. If you're going to take a long time to tune, you might have to be bumped to the back of the pack.

[Inc3pt]

You can tune, but you'll have to pay the hourly fee instead of the flat $29.99. Up to you. But there's also a time issue. If you're going to take a long time to tune, you might have to be bumped to the back of the pack.

Id just like to triple check, we get wideband free because we're over 8 cars correct Nick? :-D

[Sean]

You can tune, but you'll have to pay the hourly fee instead of the flat $29.99. Up to you. But there's also a time issue. If you're going to take a long time to tune, you might have to be bumped to the back of the pack.

Nah dude I maen tonight.. or tomorrow cause the carbs aren't synched up perfect.. LOL tune carbs on the dyno?!?! LMFAO... I don't think that would be very time efficient...
Sean

[klr142]

Yeah..... I'm kinda having the same problem as Sean... We swapped over to the aluminum intake manifold yesterday and now the car isn't running as well... There's an exhaust leak that makes my car sound like half of a POS, and then my valves have been getting increasingly loud in the past few days, making it sound like the other half of a POS. Now it sounds like a POS and it runs about as well. I need to get into it tonight... And i may find that my cam is wearing out... Compression was retested yesterday, 165 180 180 180... Loud valve(s)... And some other crap. I hope i can sort most(all) of it out tonight. Not much time though. PEace

[andrewlcraft]

Wow, looks like we're all in the same boat. I was hoping to get some time to tune and prepare a bit for the drags, but time is not on my side. Oh well, I'm sure we'll all have a great time no matter what. See everyone tomorrow, I'll be there to check out the dyno action somewhere around 10.
Later

[klr142]

Wow, looks like we're all in the same boat. I was hoping to get some time to tune and prepare a bit for the drags, but time is not on my side. Oh well, I'm sure we'll all have a great time no matter what. See everyone tomorrow, I'll be there to check out the dyno action somewhere around 10.
Later

Holy sh** i'm gonna cry. I've done soo f**king much in the past two weeks, and now i'm just throwing it away. Some stupid electrical short is causing the motor to shut off, so i'm not going. Well, I'm not taking my car anyway. Wow. And i didn't figure out the other stuff either, so it's not just the little short that i could probably find in not too many minutes. I've had a hell of a two weeks, i need some time off. Going to go CHILL with some friends for now.

Andrew, give me a call, i want a ride...

[andrewlcraft]

Just talked to Kyle, nobody worry, he's got a ride :) Be leaving Albany around 8:30, so see y'all around 10:00ish.

Maybe my last post jinxed him :eek: So is anybody prepared for this weekend???? I'm just trying to get the damn car cleaned out, let alone "tuned". Oh well, later....

[NChoy]

I may not be dyno-ing the wagon. I took it out of the garage this afternoon to clean it up, get it all pretty for you guys, and when I went to put it back in the garage, it died, and will not start. I spent the last 2 hours going over everything with a fine toothed comb... twice, and I still see nothing wrong. It's as if the gremlins disconnected something, or worse yet, something failed and it's not showing.

This is so ****ing frustrating!

It has fuel, I checked TDC, pulled the timing belt cover to check the belt, and will check for spark as soon as my GF arrives at my house in about 20 minutes. Tony has offered to come over to my house early tomorrow, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the wagon ain't going anywhere tomorrow. So I may end up coming much later and just sit on the sidelines and watch.

:(

Okay, my rant is over. I'm going to crack open a cold one.

[Felixredwoody]

Hey I just got offical approval to come down from the G/F 'cuz she has to work AND I have a legit excuse to test my now fixed odd coolant loss. I'll be just a spectator but I want to support any T-BRICKERS that show(and yes I'll have a trunk full of coolant and tools) Tim

[Unregistered]

This is so fuking unreal!!! I just drove into town to see Nicole, my wife, and I had this vibration that I had noticed a little this morning driving to work. It seems kinda RPM related, kinda load related and kinda speed related, not real consistant. So I get home, take a look under the car, and I'm missing a bolt at the front driveshaft flange, and one on the rear flange, and the other 3 on the rear are loose!!! WTF!!! So it's up EARLY tomorrow morning, head down to work, throw it on a lift and stick in some new hardware. Lock nuts and loctite mutha****a, taking no chances!

[andrewlcraft]

This is so fuking unreal!!! I just drove into town to see Nicole, my wife, and I had this vibration that I had noticed a little this morning driving to work. It seems kinda RPM related, kinda load related and kinda speed related, not real consistant. So I get home, take a look under the car, and I'm missing a bolt at the front driveshaft flange, and one on the rear flange, and the other 3 on the rear are loose!!! WTF!!! So it's up EARLY tomorrow morning, head down to work, throw it on a lift and stick in some new hardware. Lock nuts and loctite mutha****a, taking no chances!

That was me!

[reeferman]

after all the problems with the t-brickers i went out to the drive way to start my 242 and it would not start
it would not even turn over.
talk about pissed.
after a hour of turning the key i quit.
no dyno for me.

tony

hey i park the 242 in the garage and the 142 is in the driveway with no motor.
ok 8 Henry Weinhards are to many.
242 will be there
see you guys saterday

[Inc3pt]

Holy crap, so many people bailing...Jared was almost out, his ignition timing (He swapped in the A cam) doesnt line up with the freaking correct mark on the gear so we had to play guess and check and finally got it running.

We'll both be there for sure...I hope to see as many of you as we can :-( :-(

[Vovo poser]

sad to say i may not be able to make it out to thedrags
on my way to work my water pump pulley cracked in half
thus = car not running and making me 30 miutes late to work,
i'll try to get another one at the yards tommorow so i can make i out there, wish me luck guys

[klr142]

This is insane... I'm going to be up early too... I think i might check into my problem and say f*** it and drive the car up there anyway. I really want to dyno and drag it... If i don't, i save about $100, and I don't risk breaking the car... But if i don't, most of my hard work and time spent will be wasted, i'll have a running car, but i wanted to get some numbers to look at... If i can figure out the shorting, i might take it up and run it. Just plan on me trying to overtighten some nuts to quiet the exhaust leak, and adjusting the valves when i get there, or i might get it done in the morning... Gawd, and i thought i was going to get more than the 4-5 hours of sleep i've been getting almost every night for the past couple weeks... Work has been sucking it up, and when i'm not there, a little bit of car work... Some food and friends and sleep stuck in there somewhere, not enough of any of them though...

[/RANT ] :-P

Andrew gimme a call if you see this before you go to your shop, maybe i can join you? or no... Policy probably won't allow it...

[byte1032]

holy crap looks like we are all in the same boat, id did some work on my tranny trying to get it all good and now im not getting all the power i should be. i went out and did some test runs tonight and got my ass handed to me all 3 times, so no drags for me but long as the car starts in the mornign im dynoing full power or not because i said i would. the theory of 3 has passed and infected all our volvos wtf still going to go to pir and represent but most liekyl no runs less we can get my issue fixed whateveer it is

[klr142]

Uh, i guess my alarm didn't wake me up. Unless i can figure it out in 5 seconds my car isn't comin up... Shower time! Cya all soon!

[klr142]

I retarded the timing too much. I bet i coulda pulled 90 hp if i advanced it a bit and they had some decent fans. I got a battery and made it home fine, but just as i pulled into my apartment's parking lot, it died... WTF! Glad it happened there, and i was able to start it up right there and get to my spot... but seriously... Dyno sheet will be up later tonight, best run was 84 hp and 103 lb.ft :-( Each run got better because my engine got cooler with each successive run...

[Felixredwoody]

It was a great time to see all the fun cars and the dyno runs. And for the opportunity to see a working megasquirted +T car (the bertone coupe). Makes me want even more to go that route. Ahh the joys of a big garage and decent amouts of time. Tim P.S. i snapped of a few pictures nothing great but the amazon pics...that car was the shiznit!

[klr142]

see a working megasquirted +T car (the bertone coupe).

So he WAS there! I guess he was early? How'd it do???

[Inc3pt]

So he WAS there! I guess he was early? How'd it do???

Yeah, he was way early and left early.

His best run was 185hp and 220 ft-lb of torque, roughly. Pretty sweet :-D

[klr142]

Yeah, he was way early and left early.

His best run was 185hp and 220 ft-lb of torque, roughly. Pretty sweet :-D

Awesome. His torque seems a bit down compared to some other F+t cars... What's he running that's different? Either way, SWEET! :cool:

POST YOUR DYNO SHEETS AND PICTURES AND DRAG CRAP HERE! :-P (http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?p=237386#post237386)

[Slobodan]

well I got the 740 Turbo to work correclty just now about 5 hours after we all left TF.... Oh well I don't exactly have the cash flow to have dyno'd Next year!!!!

[klr142]

well I got the 740 Turbo to work correclty just now about 5 hours after we all left TF.... Oh well I don't exactly have the cash flow to have dyno'd Next year!!!!

So what was the problem? did you clean the throttle body yet?

[lilswizzel]

nate isnt a +t, he has a rebuilt b230ft in bert, and "only" 220ftlb is probably saving the life of that poor m46. Glad to see everyone had fun, I had to goto work and Ben was going car shopping with the older brother. Did Sean or Nick get any runs in?

[Slobodan]

Oh yeah well the problems were just a few things I haven't done yet.
cleaning the IC out.
cleaning the throttle Body and adjusting the trottle linkage so that the throttle position switch in proper adjustment.
Then I descouvered that the powerwire for Turbo+ was disconnected. I still feel that its timming advance isn't working proporly. but hey atleast it will idle right, and have some low end power.

[Sean]

nate isnt a +t, he has a rebuilt b230ft in bert, and "only" 220ftlb is probably saving the life of that poor m46. Glad to see everyone had fun, I had to goto work and Ben was going car shopping with the older brother. Did Sean or Nick get any runs in?
ok so my p1800...
yeah.. Tuned up the webers last night had it running really nice... so this morning I got up early washed it (jinxed it) since I hadn't washed it in like 3 months... left my house with my buddy john.. got about a mile away and exhaust leak was bad..wasn't there last night.. ****...
so I had to get gas ASAP so first stop was gas station.. popped the hood while it was filling and 1 bolt was missing from my header to me exhaust, and 1 had lost the nut... double ****.. so I went to the closest place along the way that I could think of taht would be open on Saturday with a lift/pit jiffy lube and asked the guys if they could throw on a bolt for me.. I thought I had one taht would fit and maybe another but no.. john ran and got some bolts we got it all tightened up and started it up no leak running great...
So i go to leave the Jiffy lube accelerate rather briskly and bam before I even got across the center lane blew my diff up... ****ing 3rd or 4th dana 27 I have blown.. nucking futs.... anyway what a ****ing ****ty thing to happen on the way up I wish I coulda had it happen on the way down cause I was thinking that jusging from Cam's run I would be pretty close on HP it woulda been fun.. but oh well I gotta get some time and weld up some mounts to mount up rear discs to it now and put in a trutrac with a dana 30 from a 142... but that means I gotta get new front hubs so that the bolt pattern matches... oh well a winder project...
sh it happens... fu cking p1800 has blown 3-4 rear ends 3 trannis and who know how many tires have died because of it but NEVER an engine problem I really wanted to run it see what I had.. oh well maybe later into the year if I get all the other stuff done.
Sean

[Unregistered]

So where were you Kyle? Didn't see ya at the drags, thought you were coming??? Anyway, all two of us that showed ran, Tony and I. Pretty weak turnout, I was hoping for a little more participation. Tony ran a 15.3 to my 19.7. Fun stuff, no matter how slow. Maybe the next event we can get a little more organization going so it seems like a CLUB event, not everyone doing there own thing.

[andrewlcraft]

damnit, that was me again ^

[wiggin]

glad to see everyone enjoyed the seeing my bertone out there today, i know i had a blast getting her up on the dyno, now i cant wait to get some more mods done and put it on there with closer to 15lb of boost and see how much more she can do, and thanks for the correction on my motor situation adam... its definatley not a +T car and i was pretty darn happy with the torque and HP numbers... cant wait till we get to do it again and maybe next time it wownt be on my girlfriends birthday so i can go out to PIR too and stomp some ricer high school kids.

[byte1032]

i was at the drags and talked breafly to tony after his first run which i didnt get on tape but i have at least teh one of the 142 and tony going at it, and some otehr ruins from teh night from my friends blown up car. those will be up as soon as i find someone to host them for me and dump them from the camera. i also have all the cars dynoing from when i got to TF.

[Inc3pt]

Ill have my stuff up in a bit, dyno graph, pictures, stuff like that.

Hate to say this, but Tony only ran a 15.3?...That kinda hurts :-(

[Sean]

Ill have my stuff up in a bit, dyno graph, pictures, stuff like that.

Hate to say this, but Tony only ran a 15.3?...That kinda hurts :-(


What did tony dyno? Andrew?
Sean

[Inc3pt]

What did tony dyno? Andrew?
Sean

Tony dyno'd at 185 / 218 .....I just know that I ran a 15.9 when my car was near stock at 10 lbs...And I couldve done better too...Just a little odd thats all...

[reeferman]

Tony dyno'd at 185 / 218 .....I just know that I ran a 15.9 when my car was near stock at 10 lbs...And I couldve done better too...Just a little odd thats all...
could not get the power down.
my 60' times sucked
posi posi posi posi
thats what i was yelling tell third gear.
need help finding a rear end.
ill build it and then put it in.
ill be back up i know i can get low to mid 14s

tony

[Inc3pt]

could not get the power down.
my 60' times sucked
posi posi posi posi
thats what i was yelling tell third gear.
need help finding a rear end.
ill build it and then put it in.
ill be back up i know i can get low to mid 14s

tony

That makes more sense, I was wondering why it was a little high :-D

[andrewlcraft]

Hmmm..sorry if my last post was a little grumpy, I was just left feeling there could have been more organization/participation in the whole day. And with saying that, maybe next time I should step up and help make it happen.

Sure, Tony only ran a 15.3. This should be about fun not about being bummed out about what we all run. I ran a freaking 19.7 and still had a blast. It's not about making excuses and all that crap. We still had a great time. As for my time, there's probably about half a second left in my car in driving skill alone. After that, it's time for some real mods! But at least I've got some experience now, and have a baseline to improve upon. Same with Tony, he hadn't ran that car before and said he had traction problems on the first run, and his clutch slipped on the second.

Anyway, I've got some good pics from the dyno, they probably won't get posted until late tonight or tomorrow.

Don't get me wrong, I had an awesome time, I just think that we can do better if we're going to have this club and be serious about it.

[andrewlcraft]

http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250175?full=1
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250176?full=1
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250177?full=1
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250178?full=1
This Honda makes me wonder why we screw around with Volvo's
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250180?full=1
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250182?full=1
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250183?full=1
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250186?full=1
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250188?full=1
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/album01/P9250189?full=1
I've got a few more to get on the computer, had some extra time, so posted these real quick. Later

[klr142]

Hmmm..sorry if my last post was a little grumpy, I was just left feeling there could have been more organization/participation in the whole day. And with saying that, maybe next time I should step up and help make it happen.

Don't get me wrong, I had an awesome time, I just think that we can do better if we're going to have this club and be serious about it.

Well, yeah, we coulda done better, but then again, so could Torque Freaks. Did you go in and talk to the guys? Tony and I almost weren't allowed to run. And then they also made some of us pay for the A/F readings I think. I got away with not paying for it... But I think Tony paid for it? Did you? I mean, we thought that we basically had the dyno for the day... As far as what we had planned and that was the impression we were getting from people talking to them and what they were posting on the board. But when we got there, i guess they were only planning on going until 11, and their boss said to charge for the A/F readings (said the guy taking the money). We, Tony and I, even said that we'd do one run, just so we could get on the dyno, and they were still hesitating, but then i guess when we got on the dyno, they had no problems letting us make another two runs. And boy am i glad, because my car got better and better. I wish they had better fans and i didn't retard the timing a WHOLE 10 DEGREES!(or maybe it was even more...).

As for organization and participation, well, it might have been better if a lot of us didn't have other things that we needed to do, and if lots of us didn't have cars that bailed on us at the last second, and if we all had some more money...

Sorry I didn't come to the drags... I guess I shoulda, but after the dyno, and then needing a battery, and just the stresses of it all, i just didn't really want to as much as i had before. And mainly, i wanted to get back to corvallis to spend some more quality time with my other friends before school started, because i've been working a lot, and then working on my car, and so i wanted to actually hang out a bit before i don't really get too much again... :-(

I think I heard that some people(nick and tony and a couple other people possibly) are planning on going in a couple weeks or so to get some more times, and nick's going to dyno his car at a later date as well. I might go to it, if i'm not already working. Sorry i didn't come and support you guys, but i kinda asked if i should when we were all leavin, and you guys said i didn't have to... SORRY! :-(

[Felixredwoody]

Ha Ha on that honda comment. Yes that honda WAS cool but you know he has an engine controll computer that retails for like almost $3K and I'll bet way more into it than we want to know. As to the organization/participation I agree to a point but then again I drove from Kelso WA to come down and still had a blast. It was great to meet a few fellow t-brickers and see what has been done by them. If something similar is planned you can count me in as long as I get enough notice. Oh and by the way I was the one that didn't dyno...really wanted too but just couldn't afford to do it. But I did look at the prices and I'll head down there to get mine done just to see what it can do. Seeing another N/A b21 motor almost do 100HP I would like to baseline mine before I start the megasquirt and +T conversion.

[klr142]

Ha Ha on that honda comment. Yes that honda WAS cool but you know he has an engine controll computer that retails for like almost $3K and I'll bet way more into it than we want to know. As to the organization/participation I agree to a point but then again I drove from Kelso WA to come down and still had a blast. It was great to meet a few fellow t-brickers and see what has been done by them. If something similar is planned you can count me in as long as I get enough notice. Oh and by the way I was the one that didn't dyno...really wanted too but just couldn't afford to do it. But I did look at the prices and I'll head down there to get mine done just to see what it can do. Seeing another N/A b21 motor almost do 100HP I would like to baseline mine before I start the megasquirt and +T conversion.


Nah, you weren't the only one who didn't dyno, there were a few that didn't. There were the guys who couldn't dyno, and then there was Matt(i think that's his name, Slobodan) who didn't dyno his car because he had to work out a bunch of stuff that he finally took care of later that day. I dunno who else, but yeah, don't feel like you were the only one. :-D Welcome to the party! Were you the guy who kept supplying me with tools and the multimeter? If so, I thank you!

[Felixredwoody]

Yep that was me that tried to help you figure out the battery issue. I always carry tools and don't break down too often BUT if you have tools almost anything is fixable. If there is another group that is planning to do dyno pulls I would definately like to join in to do mine! Tim

[klr142]

Sean, Andrew didn't dyno, i did and ran 80hp, then 82 hp, then 84 hp, 99.something lb/ft, then 100.something, then 103.something. With each successive run my car's direct engine fan was making it get cooler, and go faster. This was with ignition timing set at like 0 degrees... Tooo low, i wanted to set it down a bit to reduce the detonation that i was experiencing when the engine was warm. On my first two runs it would have detonated pretty badly if i didn't change it, but on my third run, my car was cool enough to have not detonated. I think there may be carbon built up in the engine, causing it to not be able to run more timing. I'll have to do some water injection... I was going to before the dyno day, but i forgot about it amongst my car's other issues... :-( How much of a difference in power do you think 10deg would make? :???: Probably a decent amount i guess compared to my overall ratings... Do you think it could've bumped me up to around 90 hp? I like to think that it would, but who knows.

[NChoy]

Okay, my turn.

First of all, thank you to all who made it to TF for the dyno day. I talked to Tony today and he said only two people went to PIR. That's kind of a bummer.

Having said that, my car is still dead. I've been working on it now since 12 Noon. John Sargent came by and helped out. I had a dead main fuel pump and we swapped it out for one that works, but the car still won't fire. I have spark, all timing marks set to TDC, I have fuel (lots of it now) up at the fuel rail, injectors check okay. No fault codes on the OBD. I even disconnected the piggy back system and went back to the stock injectors... still nothing. I don't think I've ever been this frustrated in my life. The only thing I can think of at this point is AMM and/or ECU failure.

Regarding the whole Torque Freaks thing, I will call them tomorrow and find out what happened. I was told that if we had 8 or more cars, the wideband O2 would be free. I asked Mike at TF before I left how many cars they ran through... He said 13. Evidently some of you had to pay an extra $10, some didn't. Why they would charge some and not others is beyond me. I need to know who paid for wideband O2 because I'm going to ask for a credit, so please respond to this post and I'll make a list. And don't raise your hand if you paid for it but got reimbursed, like Tony did after he raised a stink. The whole thing about them not running all the cars because they wanted to close early in order to make it to the car show is BS. I'm also going to bring that up. That decision (after we had scheduled 15 cars to go through... and I was assured that they'd be able to process 15 cars with "no problem"), was in poor taste on the part of Torque Freaks, and in my opinion, a bad business decision... and I will make sure that they know it. Saturday was as much of an event for our club as it was a way for people to check out Torque Freaks... like MVP and IPD, and our club's members. And if TF wants to keep the business that this large group of people are prepared to bring to them, they have some explaining to do.

For all of you who felt this event wasn't organized as good as it should have been... you're right. But that's how life is. We think we're going to hit a home run and we get thrown a few curve balls. Mine involved my car crapping out on me at 7pm the night before the event. The reason I didn't make it to the dyno event was because I tried (in vain I might add) to get my car running so that I might make it up to run it at the back of the pack. Some things are not meant to be I suppose.

Going forward, since a lot of you expressed an issue with cost, I'd like to plan events that don't cost so much money. I didn't think $30 was too much money, but added to current gas prices, a long drive for some, the cost of $20 to get into PIR, and the cost of lunch and dinner, things add up. I'm willing to take suggestions from the group to see what else we can do that doesn't cost too much money, but just short of sitting on my couch with me and Jill and watching DVDs, I can't really think of anything that is nearly free (even the DVD rental cost money you know...)

IF I ever get my car running, I'd like to dyno it. I'm curious to see how much improvement I've gotten after installing the piggy back, large injectors, and upping the boost to 18psi. I'm going to see if Peter is busy this week sometime and have him drop by to check it out. Wish me luck. If it doesn't start after Peter takes a crack at it, I'll start parting it out.

Yeah, right...

[Felixredwoody]

Hey I didn't mean to offend or in anyway imply there was any problem from your end. I simply wanted to see the dyno fun and wished I could run but yes life throws curveballs sometimes(mine was G/F didn't get paid this month out almost $800.00). I just want to say once again I had a great time just couldn't afford to do what I had hoped to do and if you make another event happen you can most probably count me in. And I felt kinda odd not knowing anyone but then again I talked to many and really learned a lot and hopefully made some friends. In my opinion it went off well and the PIR drags I would have loved to stay and at least watch BUT damn I only had gas $$ to make it down because of my curveball. I know I live kinda far away but not really and would hope that everyone formed somewhat the same opinion.......Lots of fun!!!!!! Tim

[Inc3pt]

Having said that, my car is still dead. I've been working on it now since 12 Noon. John Sargent came by and helped out. I had a dead main fuel pump and we swapped it out for one that works, but the car still won't fire. I have spark, all timing marks set to TDC, I have fuel (lots of it now) up at the fuel rail, injectors check okay. No fault codes on the OBD. I even disconnected the piggy back system and went back to the stock injectors... still nothing. I don't think I've ever been this frustrated in my life. The only thing I can think of at this point is AMM and/or ECU failure.

Regarding the whole Torque Freaks thing, I will call them tomorrow and find out what happened. I was told that if we had 8 or more cars, the wideband O2 would be free. I asked Mike at TF before I left how many cars they ran through... He said 13. Evidently some of you had to pay an extra $10, some didn't. Why they would charge some and not others is beyond me. I need to know who paid for wideband O2 because I'm going to ask for a credit, so please respond to this post and I'll make a list. And don't raise your hand if you paid for it but got reimbursed, like Tony did after he raised a stink. The whole thing about them not running all the cars because they wanted to close early in order to make it to the car show is BS. I'm also going to bring that up. That decision (after we had scheduled 15 cars to go through... and I was assured that they'd be able to process 15 cars with "no problem"), was in poor taste on the part of Torque Freaks, and in my opinion, a bad business decision... and I will make sure that they know it. Saturday was as much of an event for our club as it was a way for people to check out Torque Freaks... like MVP and IPD, and our club's members. And if TF wants to keep the business that this large group of people are prepared to bring to them, they have some explaining to do.

For all of you who felt this event wasn't organized as good as it should have been... you're right. But that's how life is. We think we're going to hit a home run and we get thrown a few curve balls. Mine involved my car crapping out on me at 7pm the night before the event. The reason I didn't make it to the dyno event was because I tried (in vain I might add) to get my car running so that I might make it up to run it at the back of the pack. Some things are not meant to be I suppose.

Responses to paragraphs, in order:

Its too bad youre having the problems Nick, Jared and I were talking and I know that we're not exactly master Volvo mechanics, but to figure out Jareds car after he re-timed it 4 times, an extra set of eyes to watch and try to figure it out helped for sure. It wasnt his fault initially (P/O set up a Dizzy without aligning it) ....But the point being we'd both like to help out any way we can, because you certainly have put alot into OVT so far, and we know you'd do the same for us :-D.

First things first, Jared and I paid for wideband, Im just confirming that for us. I could give a list of who I think did, but that wouldnt be very accurate. As for TF: Yes, they were sort of unprofessional, in the idea that if they had a problem with us being there and they needed to get the PAAX expo, they should've let us know that when we originally scheduled it. But also, I think it would've been nicer on our part to have all shown up by 9:00 or 10:00, I think us trickling in kind of confused them, and possibly upset them. (With exceptions, Nick, Tony, the reason is completely understandable, and there may be other exceptions but I dont know about them)...Anyway, I just think we could've organized things a tad bit better on our side so they could organize things better too. Also some people were making some bad comments and remarks about TF that I think were unnecessary. First about the cooling fans, yes, it was a little strange that they didnt bring out all of there fans (I know they have two of the big black ones, Ive seem them in person)....And how they didnt use that tiny second fan for everyone as well. I dont quite understand why, but I guess we could've just asked as well, it never hurts. I told them my car runs hotter than normal and they put both the fans in front. Anyway, I think its just bad communication, and/or no experience with Volvos I suppose...I could go on about this forever...but anyway...

Yeah, some things arent meant to be, and as I mentioned, see my first paragraph. Jared and I are totally willing to help with whatever we can. Hopefully the next meet can go better.

In reguard to it being too expensive: Jared and I mentioned we may not go to PIR, simply because we're sort of broke right now and with MS coming up and other things, we're extremely tight on money. It was just sort of a thing...Oh well. I honestly dont think that $30 is too expensive, and possibly not $60-ish for an entire day of Volvo fun, I think it was just bad timing.

Whew, that was quite a bit. Hope all of it is coherent.

[andrewlcraft]

Here's a link to all the pics I've got. Take note, don't let your wife take pics at night without prior training!
http://www.super-crush.com/gallery/view_album.php?page=1

[Felixredwoody]

hey andrew...nice pics and I couldnt resist commenting on 2!! Tim

[budweiser_man]

did anyone get any pics of my car shooting flames? I need a picture for my background on my computer at work.

thanks

lets see some numbers!!

(will post when I get the sheet out of my car)

[klr142]

did anyone get any pics of my car shooting flames? I need a picture for my background on my computer at work.

thanks

lets see some numbers!!

(will post when I get the sheet out of my car)

Put your pictures and numbers in the showroom in the post i created. I didn't get to see your car run, but i heard it... Automatic? How does that work on the dyno? I dun have ne pics... But yeah, post pics and numbers and movies on this thread:
POST'M HERE! (http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=25642)

[Sean McElderry]

First of all, I want to thank you guys for coming down to dyno your cars. It sounds like *some* fun was had :) Regarding the $29.99 vs. $39.99 dyno pricing, I would like to give all those who paid $39.99 a $10 refund. It is not fair for some people to pay $29.99 and others to pay $39.99. If you paid $39.99, please come down to our shop to collect your $10 refund. I sincerely apologize about this.

Regarding the professionalism of my employees, it would be beneficial to me as a business owner to speak with those who felt that one or more of my employees were acting inappropriately. We continually receive very positive feedback on our professionalism but if there is a problem, I would like to address is immediately. The very basis of our shop lies on customer service and professionalism so I take this issue quite seriously. If you are one who felt as if the employees at TorqueFreaks provided you with poor customer service, I would appreciate and email describing what you observed so that I can improve our commitment to the customer. Thank you very much.

In the future, we would like to host events for you just like we do for many other car clubs in the NW. Any feedback you can give me to help make things proceed more smoothly moving forward would be welcome. Take care, guys!

[NChoy]

I'll reiterate what Sean said, rather than repeat it.

Thanks to all of you for being patient and understanding. I had a conversation with Mike at TF this afternoon, and there was some misunderstandings on both the part of TF and our club (and of course me) regarding the number of cars that were scheduled to be dynoed. Apologies are in order if anyone was miffed due to misinformation, I will definitely try harder next time to make sure that you all enjoy and have a chance to participate in the event.

As Sean mentioned, those of you who overpaid will be issued a refund. Torque Freaks has the receipts and knows who overpaid.

Going forward, I would like to work with Torque Freaks in the near future to do an organized club event (WAY more organized this time!). And I sure hope that next time my car doesn't break the night before the event! I'll keep you posted on a possible date and time. For those of you who are interested in doing on-dyno tuning, this may be an opportunity to do so.

Again, thanks for the attendance. As always, you guys always come through.

[Inc3pt]

First of all, I want to thank you guys for coming down to dyno your cars. It sounds like *some* fun was had :) Regarding the $29.99 vs. $39.99 dyno pricing, I would like to give all those who paid $39.99 a $10 refund. It is not fair for some people to pay $29.99 and others to pay $39.99. If you paid $39.99, please come down to our shop to collect your $10 refund. I sincerely apologize about this.

Regarding the professionalism of my employees, it would be beneficial to me as a business owner to speak with those who felt that one or more of my employees were acting inappropriately. We continually receive very positive feedback on our professionalism but if there is a problem, I would like to address is immediately. The very basis of our shop lies on customer service and professionalism so I take this issue quite seriously. If you are one who felt as if the employees at TorqueFreaks provided you with poor customer service, I would appreciate and email describing what you observed so that I can improve our commitment to the customer. Thank you very much.

In the future, we would like to host events for you just like we do for many other car clubs in the NW. Any feedback you can give me to help make things proceed more smoothly moving forward would be welcome. Take care, guys!

You guys were great to deal with, and it shows alot that you're refunding the
$10 even though it may have just been miscommunication. As for unprofessional employees, I think it was more of a miscommunication between all of us and that can be worked on next time.

I will say that everything that happened that day cant be placed on one of the parties in particular, and I certainly dont have soured feelings towards you guys at Torque Freaks, and am more than happy to bring my business back :-D

[Felixredwoody]

I know that I didn't do a dyno run but I watched almost all of the others who did and I was impressed by the knowledge of the employees of Touque Freaks. I also understand that in any high performance shop it's not always easy to please everyone everytime. I commend TF for being an obviously well respected group of proffesionals who I felt were very attentive to everyones questions and were definately offering good advice for all that ran. It's nice to know that they are taking care of everything.
As to if there would be another event there I would definately come down so I can dyno my NA car to get a baseline before I go MS and +T. And for that matter I would come down for any volvo related fun as long as there is enough notice so I can plan better for the next time. Tim

[reeferman]

ill be back had a good time

tony

[klr142]

A couple clips are up now, one of my pull with Tony and Andrew's runs after it. Check the Showroom thread! :cool:

Oh, and next time we go, (to TF) hopefully we can get all the fans out in front of the cars... And in the next couple weeks when some of us go drag racing, i think i'll have to come too... Just need to figure out a way to secure my battery and mess with my intake setup and timing and possible carbon buildup... :-P

[andrewlcraft]

A couple clips are up now, one of my pull with Tony and Andrew's runs after it. Check the Showroom thread! :cool:

Oh, and next time we go, (to TF) hopefully we can get all the fans out in front of the cars... And in the next couple weeks when some of us go drag racing, i think i'll have to come too... Just need to figure out a way to secure my battery and mess with my intake setup and timing and possible carbon buildup... :-P

yeah, they said I need a metal battery holddown before I run again, I've got a rubber one now, so I just need the metal piece and reuse the rods on my old one...think I'll use the Nissan one that we *should* stock at work. AND a neutral saftey switch. Did you have to do this? Our cars never had one, so I'll have to rig something up, if I remember right, Volvo never had one on the manual trans cars. Even checked an 850 with a stick, and it started right up w/o the clutch in, so it's gonna be custom! Oh, and a throttle return spring. He was happy with how mine acted, said I just need an external one for the visual.

[reeferman]

they didnt even look at my car.
just the battery.
the m-46 has one.
check you tranny
if not you should be able to hook one up to the clutch pedle.
it wont start unless the pedle in
if you need help let me know

tony

[andrewlcraft]

they didnt even look at my car.
just the battery.
the m-46 has one.
check you tranny
if not you should be able to hook one up to the clutch pedle.
it wont start unless the pedle in
if you need help let me know

tony

my 410 doesn't have one
i'm thinking a peddle setup
i'll let you know

(Hehehe. I love your post style)

[klr142]

yeah, they said I need a metal battery holddown before I run again, I've got a rubber one now, so I just need the metal piece and reuse the rods on my old one...think I'll use the Nissan one that we *should* stock at work. AND a neutral saftey switch. Did you have to do this? Our cars never had one, so I'll have to rig something up, if I remember right, Volvo never had one on the manual trans cars. Even checked an 850 with a stick, and it started right up w/o the clutch in, so it's gonna be custom! Oh, and a throttle return spring. He was happy with how mine acted, said I just need an external one for the visual.

WTF?!?! :???: :roll: Neutral safety switch? That's the biggest load of BS i've ever heard. What the hell would you need one of those for? I wouldn't worry about that. How the hell did they find out about that or ask about it. That's bull sheet. Hmm, when i went, they complained about my battery, but said if i'm just going to run it once a year i can probably get by... :badboy: Last year i ran with a "rope" tied around the battery and under the wood panel that i made that is "secured" by one bolt. Now i don't have the string anymore... The other thing they brought up was the FUEL FILTER and hoses. They didn't like my PLASTIC filter, and my rubber hoses... It isn't a drag car you know... And then they also didn't like how i had it up top, near the carb. Now it's relocated to the side of the engine, but it's all still plastic and rubber. nnn yeah. Gnight!

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