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coldfusion21
11-04-2004, 11:10 AM
does anyone have any pictures of a car without ac but with power steering. i started looking at towerys bracket for PS with no AC, but i couldnt figure out how the pump would mount.

Matt Dupuis
11-04-2004, 11:50 AM
:rofl: I just can't get over the fact that some areas it's hard to find a non-AC 240...

I can take pix tonight if nobody posts anything before that. I posted a pic of my engine compartment from the top end in the "turbo surge sound" thread in P&S, but you can't really see it very well.

Felixredwoody
11-04-2004, 12:13 PM
I have quite a few already taken. Both on my car and a few in J/Y as found stock. pics are big!
Stock non-ac P/S mount complete removed from car. (B21F)

<img src=http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr?i=wNjMzODI1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D>

Same bracket installled on my car(alignment of belt has been corrected via new bushings)

<img src=http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr?i=wNjMzODI2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D>

As found at junkyard bracket.

<img src=http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr?i=wNjMzODI3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D>

Hope that helps, I can always take more and post them Tim

MikeHardy
11-04-2004, 12:39 PM
you should try findingone with AC here in the uk, i've never seen one

1stRaven
11-04-2004, 03:03 PM
ac before the mid 90's? over the rolls royce maybe.

Greg Wong
11-04-2004, 11:02 PM
On that 3rd picture, is that crank pulley a single piece pulley, or a 2 piece pulley with no shims between the parts? I'm only talking about the pulley that drives the power steering, not the separate part of the pulley that drives the dual belts.

The more I look at that pic, the more that I am convinced that it is a different crank pulley. If you look at the outermost edge, it is sharper than the edge of the 2 part pulley that most of us in the US are used to. The edge on the 2 part pulley seems more rounded.

And that pulley seems to have a pretty large diameter, and the center of the groove seems further from the engine than the 2 part pulley. If it were in fact farther away, then this would fix my belt alignment issue.

Greg

Felixredwoody
11-05-2004, 12:04 AM
I honestly don't know about the 2nd pics crank pulley, I just snapped the pic before I got the bracket off for reference. Might just be the angle of the pic, might be a different pulley bolted to the front. I'm heading to a few wrecking yards tomorow and if I see another one that is factory non A/C I'll grab the front pulley along with brackets. I sold the last spare one I had and need a new bracket for my B21F+T build sitting on the engine stand now waiting for goodies to show up. Tim (if I find one I'll PM you Greg)

smith_t240
08-22-2007, 01:39 AM
Bump - this sucks, search continues. I need pics!

amargill19?
08-22-2007, 02:55 AM
I'll take pics tomm.

I removed my AC compressor and used a bracket from a non a/c car... it was pretty simple.

It'll require a different belt as well.

Chrisco
08-22-2007, 03:40 AM
I'll take pics once the sun comes up if nobody beat me to it. I've had the a/c removed.

Yeedogga
08-22-2007, 07:51 AM
i too will take pics, but what i did was...

mount PS pump where it is stock on a 240 (high, block mount dizzy side)

Spaced the pump out about 1" to run on forward-most position on the crank pulley. use appropriate length belt (i think its a 11A0950??? i can check)

then i run 2 belts for the alt (low exhaust side, near oil filter) on the rearmost 2 pulleys.

smith_t240
08-22-2007, 10:57 AM
From this thread: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?p=1369897#post1369897

This is what I'm trying to do:

I am not running AC on my new squirter block that is going into my '83 244Ti but do want PS. I am trying to adapt the older style PS pump with a non-AC PS bracket.

The bracket that I have bolts to the block with three bolts and then has some brackets/bolts that I am trying to figure out how they go on.

stray
08-22-2007, 01:41 PM
I'm pretty sure you need the early style bracket to go with the early pump. I ran into the same problem.

Chrisco
08-22-2007, 10:38 PM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/Chrisco242/pspump2.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/Chrisco242/pspump.jpg

amargill19?
08-22-2007, 11:04 PM
that's the older style pump with the built in resevoir. Sorry, I'm not going to be at home or near my camera for the next couple days - otherwise i'd snap a pic of mine for ya.

smith_t240
08-27-2007, 12:12 AM
Bump for more pictures and the new style. Maybe a picture from the bottom too?

JW240
08-27-2007, 05:13 AM
i'll post the pics when i get home!