PDA

View Full Version : Post your AutoX pics!


V8BRICK
11-23-2004, 10:44 AM
I have a few, nothing too spectacular, too bad the camera can't capture how slow I was going in the 142, and how out of control I was in the wagon, haha. I need stiffer springs on the front of both cars.

<img src="http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ebailey/images/autox_142.jpg">

<img src="http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ebailey/images/autox_v8_01.jpg">

<img src="http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ebailey/images/autox_v8_02.jpg">

<img src="http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ebailey/images/autox_v8_03.jpg">

Three Fat Tigers
11-23-2004, 11:15 AM
Looks great!

Ok so it's not a brick:
http://www.threefattigers.com/Protocore/Miata/RyokoAutoX_2033m.jpg
http://www.threefattigers.com/Protocore/Miata/RyokoAutoX_1999m.jpg
http://www.threefattigers.com/Protocore/Miata/RyokoAutoX_2002m.jpg

MikeHardy
11-23-2004, 11:39 AM
TFT you so need a black helmet. looks like your on a moon landing with that white one and the flag

Super1800GTR
11-23-2004, 11:46 AM
A few of the 242:
http://www.pbase.com/brick/autox_1

Wish I had some of the 1800 from a few years ago. I was up on 3 wheels the whole time :). Hopefully it'll be up and runing next summer w/ better suspension & just a BIT more power.

Rob

Three Fat Tigers
11-23-2004, 12:21 PM
TFT you so need a black helmet. looks like your on a moon landing with that white one and the flagHeh yeah it wasn't flattering, it was a loner from the event, that took place at VIR and I had loaned my own helmet to another driver who was out on the main track. It's a Shoei race replica, looks very similar to this one: http://www.ridegear.com/store/graphics/shoeirf900nobby.jpg

mikep
11-23-2004, 01:34 PM
http://www.pbase.com/mperry/autocross

towerymt
11-23-2004, 02:54 PM
Wow, the hang tag parking permit would be distracting to me. I have a much shorter one, and I don't leave it up because of that.

Helmets work better when they're buckled up. ;-)

http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/volvo/240/12.jpg

http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/volvo/240/13.jpg

http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/volvo/240/16.jpg

http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/volvo/240/711_42STS.jpg

http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/volvo/240/42STS.jpg

http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/volvo/240/14STS.jpg

http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/grip-slide.jpg

V8BRICK
11-23-2004, 04:08 PM
Wow, the hang tag parking permit would be distracting to me. I have a much shorter one, and I don't leave it up because of that.

Helmets work better when they're buckled up. ;-)


Yeah the parking pass isn't too much of a distraction, the Aqua Teen Shake air freshener hangs pretty low though. I have one in all the cars, Meatwad is in the daily.

Have you tried out those 475lb springs yet? I'm interested in your opinion of them, I'm going to switch to coilovers here soon and I'm contemplating spring rates for the wagon. I have a bit more weight up fron than you I'm sure, I've seen you engine bay at the drift event.

I was going to be ballsy and try 500lb springs because of my extra weight.

towerymt
11-23-2004, 07:08 PM
Have you tried out those 475lb springs yet? I'm interested in your opinion of them, I'm going to switch to coilovers here soon and I'm contemplating spring rates for the wagon. I have a bit more weight up fron than you I'm sure, I've seen you engine bay at the drift event.

I was going to be ballsy and try 500lb springs because of my extra weight.

Rob is putting 500's in his Bertone, with koni double adjustables that can easily handle more spring rate (just so he can have stiffer springs than me). Proper damping is the key. I wrote some brief comments about the 475's in my coilover pic post in showroom, but basically, it's awesome. The car is so tight over bumps that it just stops bouncing as soon as the bump has passed. The sharper the incline on the bump, the more harsh it is, but I'm hitting bumps now on my daily drive that were far worse with the previous setup. High speed damping is very firm, low speed is not much different feeling than before (of course that's shock speed, not car speed, like a pot hole vs. a wavy dip). There is no hard jarring, but it's firm, no doubt about it. It feels so cool though, like a suspension that is really working. The lack of body roll is impressive, too. I picked up about 10mph on one exit ramp I tried to take fast, from ~60 to ~70mph. On another bumpy ramp, the front end stayed connected better. Less tendancy to chatter or skip a little going over bumps while cornering.

It's still slightly underdamped, but as mike p. said to me, that's what I want. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't be afraid to go even stiffer all around if I had struts and shocks that could handle it. But for street driving and some autoX, this is good enough.

I haven't tried drifting or inducing rear slide to put it another way, to check the balance of the car at or beyond the limit of traction. But I can feel that the outside front tire doesn't seem to be loaded so heavily, so maybe my off the corner traction will improve.

When I put stiffer springs on the back, I could instantly feel the difference in balance. With 200's I could easily bring the rear around in steady state cornering, or under braking while turning (that's wild the first time it happens). But the 475's on the front didn't seem to mess with balance like I thought they would. The car turns very well, but doesn't seem to push at all. I'm really looking forward to autocrossing it like this, then I'll decide if I need to play with the sway bar sizes, or add more rear spring. Currently have 250's in the rear, but I told Bilstein I'd be using 350's with plans to upgrade later.

towerymt
11-23-2004, 07:18 PM
Forgot to comment on ride height. I think I have the 7" sleeves, with the other choices being 5" or 8" from Coleman. With 205/50/15 on 15x6 ET20, I don't think I can lower the perch all the way to the bottom of the sleeve because it would hit the tire (or come very close, allowing the tire to rub when it flexes). With the perch at it's lowest point relative to the tire with no rubbing, the car is slammed, and I probably have 1" more on the sleeve that I could use if I had wheel spacers. I brought it up about 1-1.5" from that level, and it's just a tad lower than before with the Jamex springs (currently about 2.25-2.5 down from stock, I estimate). When I spin the perch up to the point where the spring is seated on both ends, I'm about an inch or two higher than stock, maybe. At that point, the control arms were pointed slightly up from the chassis to the ball joint, so I'd have to lower slightly to make them level. Hard to tell with short tires, but it was quite lifted. Beyond that, I probably had another inch or more that I could crank the perch up, while compressing the spring.

So to recap, 7" sleeve, 8" x 475lb springs, goes from stupid low to 4x4 without hitting a 205/50 tire, and without approaching the limit of the sleeve. If you were to use 5" sleeves, I'd suggest mounting them at least an inch from the top of the tube, so that you can have a good range of adjustment. My front corner weights were roughly 825 and 750 with me in the car, in the same spec as current. I'll get some pictures wed. maybe.

klr142
11-24-2004, 12:06 AM
Towery, on the 10 spoke wheels are 205/50s what you are using? And if they're the wheels you're talking about, they're actually ET25... But yeah, looks sweet, and I NEED TO GO AUTOXING! My friend and I will be hitting up at least a couple next year, in my car if it's insured, but definitely in his Nissan 240sx with Ground Control coil-overs, our pick of 375 front springs and 275lb rear springs, kyb agx struts... And a gaggle of braces and some brakes from a 91 300ZXtt. It's FUN stuff to drive. Can't wait to actually get it on a track and flog it 100%. :-D

Dan
11-24-2004, 12:32 AM
http://www.pbase.com/kalazdar/image/7772573/medium.jpg
Me awhile back, 80GT, few suspension mods
same car with small body mod and period correct 14" wheelshttp://www.pbase.com/kalazdar/image/7772577/medium.jpg

towerymt
11-24-2004, 03:34 AM
Towery, on the 10 spoke wheels are 205/50s what you are using? And if they're the wheels you're talking about, they're actually ET25...
I'm riding on Virgos up front, until tomorrow. Yeah, red wheels are ET25...205/50 Azenis today, 225/50 BFG KD tomorrow. Since nobody came up with so much as an offer on the red wheels, I'll just keep them and put my new (heavily used) tires on them and run some autocrosses in STS. For the big events, or events on a nice surface next year, I'll be using race rubber. But if I don't feel like changing wheels, or it rains the day of, I'll have suitable tires on the car to autoX.