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adrianpike
12-05-2004, 09:33 AM
My fellow TurboBricks bretheren;

I have a secret.

Those of you who have followed my previous threads regarding my maintenance problems:
Here, (http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=27628) here, (http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=28766) here, (http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=29298) and Here, (http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=28574) may have found my subtle and not-so-subtle hints about my secret.
The time has come to reveal it in all it's glory:
I hereby dub thee; the Isaacsquirt!
Executed in mere hours by a handful of intrepid souls as the rain fell around them, it has now been completed, weeks later, in mere minutes, by two of those intrepid souls, as the snow fell around them. It runs. It drives. It is a thing of beauty, and a display of ingenuity and ghetto-fabulousness impressive, even by TurboBricks standards.
Also, this is my 1000th post. w00t for cool 1000th posts!

The 350K+ Hunk:
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0099.jpg
Another of the hulk:
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0101.jpg
My laptop & MS, worth more than the car it tunes :-D:
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0094.jpg
An example of the ghetto-ingenuity (the parts stores were closed) :
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0058.jpg
Some of my Alarm, stereo, and MS wiring:
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0105.jpg
The MS wiring, un-cleaned up yet:
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0104.jpg
The elements we fought (yes, snow :-D):
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0107.jpg
IT'S ALIVE!!!
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0109.jpg
John and the Beast, the first time it had ever been out of the parking lot in months.
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0110.jpg
The MS, wiring slightly cleaner:
http://www.adriantech.com/albums/ms/DSCF0112.jpg

The backstory:
My Volvo decided to shat itself a while ago, and I troubleshooted it to be K-jet being a biznatch. Right around that time, WeezilUSA parted his wagon out, and a MegaSquirt box, pigtail & harness was one of the items he was parting. Suffice to say, I scrapped together the cash, and bought it. I had been rumbling about MegaSquirt for some time then, and I had been having PM conversations about various details that I didn't quite understand. Suddenly, these conversations had meaning. In a matter of weeks, I gathered all the parts I needed, and in one afternoon/night/2 AM, in the dorm parking lot, amidst the freezing rain, The Aspirator, myself, and later, 945ti, MegaSquirted my beast.
Of course, it didn't run. Flat battery, which wouldn't even respond with jumpering it from John's ride. No matter, I had class/quizzes the next day, and I needed sleep. I called it a night, and went home to do my homework, and study what could be wrong.
I went home for my birthday, which was what I was hoping to have the car operational by, and charged up the battery. Still didn't do the trick. After some sanding and re-wiring, it still didn't run, although I had spark.
Tonight, I had an epiphany. We forgot to ground pin 25. D'oh! I PM'ed John, and he called me late Saturday night. I was hesitant at first, as it was raining, but he quickly talked me into making the beast drive. Minutes later, it rumbled to life, and died quickly. After twiddling with the afterstart enrichment numbers, it now starts with a flick of the key, and drives. It's pretty choppy due to a noisy tach signal (according to MS, I wound it up to 90,000RPM+ tonight :-D ), but as soon as that's taken care of, it's going to be awesome. It already feels much more powerful than under K-jet, and that's barely getting over 25% throttle. I can't wait to get it dialed in.
Madddd props to:
The Aspirator, 945ti, WeezilUSA, jcrump84, 245gti, kyle242gt, Matt Dupuis, and many others whom I'm forgetting (it's 5AM, cut me some slack)

w00t for MegaSquirt! To hell with K-jet!

PS: John's jealous of my idling/starting, i'm jealous of his boost, perhaps a swap is in order?

Neil Peart
12-05-2004, 09:53 AM
VERY NICE MAN..i would love to MS my car. im tired of K-jet..blah!

245gti
12-05-2004, 12:03 PM
It's pretty choppy due to a noisy tach signal (according to MS, I wound it up to 90,000RPM+ tonight :-D ), but as soon as that's taken care of, it's going to be awesome.

Are you using shielded wire for the tach signal? I used some shielded wire and my tach signal was as solid as a rock. Ground the shield at the MS end only and leave as little core exposed at the coil end as possible....

Enjoy! Now the +T is the easy part.....

linuxman51
12-05-2004, 12:26 PM
you must still be using kjet ignition. ditch that **** and run ms&s and get throttle response you never dreamd possible in an na volvo..

isaac
12-05-2004, 12:42 PM
It's good to see my spirit somehow lives on in far more advanced circuitry. Personally when I saw the word "Isaacsquirt" I thought I was about to see four switches on the dash which you'd operate manually to fire the injectors, with a chart of how fast to flick them in varying boost and rpm situations hanging from the rearview mirror.

Nice work. It's aliiiiiiive!

Hank Scorpio
12-05-2004, 12:52 PM
you must still be using kjet ignition. ditch that **** and run ms&s and get throttle response you never dreamd possible in an na volvo..

Except just use an MSD box not some cobbled together Volvo ignition circuit! A msd + wideband and you'll have exact what kenny is talking about :cool:

Super1800GTR
12-05-2004, 01:30 PM
Nice job. I need to get my ass in gear & finnish my MS install.

Rob

blkaplan
12-05-2004, 01:38 PM
damn im getting so excited to get my wagon megasquirted

760T man
12-05-2004, 01:44 PM
blue injectors!?

you ****ing ricer!!!


























:-P

vurbo
12-05-2004, 04:32 PM
so car has moved from that one spot in front of fairhaven collage finally? LOL, it was there for a long time. the best part is you K-ket was just sitting in the back of the car!

nice work man.

jackbombay
12-05-2004, 04:48 PM
when I saw the word "Isaacsquirt" I thought I was about to see four switches on the dash which you'd operate manually to fire the injectors, with a chart of how fast to flick them in varying boost and rpm situations hanging from the rearview mirror.



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

zacattack
12-05-2004, 07:08 PM
nice work, I'm midway through mine and I haven't had any time to get out to the car...

I'm glad to see that someone's figured out how to run it with a Mac, any tips?

samyboy
12-05-2004, 07:26 PM
very complicated but im shure it works all the same

and loving the virgo's :-D

adrianpike
12-05-2004, 08:13 PM
nice work, I'm midway through mine and I haven't had any time to get out to the car...

I'm glad to see that someone's figured out how to run it with a Mac, any tips?

Well, I'm having to run Virtual PC at the moment, because I'm using MSNS-extra. If you're not using MSnS-extra, megatunix will run on OS X with some minor dependency tweaks. I can go into detail about this when I'm not so tired sometime...
Megatunix will be working on MSnS-extra ASAP, if I have anything to say about it.

Update:
Now, with 945ti's assistance, a clean tach signal has been discovered. Runs great, no more tach spikes. It's fast too. :-D The bottom end's pretty good, but the top end has some interesting sound effects when the mixture gets wonky. Many pedestrians have run. I need a heated O2 sensor. Or WB. Donations are welcome.

740Weapon
12-05-2004, 09:48 PM
so megasquirt is really easy enough to throw in in a college parkinlot? thats nutz.

adrianpike
12-05-2004, 11:48 PM
so megasquirt is really easy enough to throw in in a college parkinlot? thats nutz.

With good friends to help out, yes.

Kjets On a Plane
12-06-2004, 12:18 AM
With good friends to help out, yes.
Eh, in a sorta ghetto fabulous sorta way...
It does work, but don't expect to iron out all the kinks in the freezing cold parking lot right away. I say:
... a day with a fellow MS&S person, ala John (The Aspirator) to get everything in the car, intake and all the MS stuff and rip out K-jet....
..another A day to sort out any potential wiring bugs and get it to start.
...another day to get all the inputs reading right, and take it for a spin while perfecting everything some.

It still isn't perfect, but Adrian's car has some pretty unique issues that weren't the fault of MS or the MS installation.
These things that slowed down progress were:
1. Flat battery
2. Dirty tach signal at the coil, and gunky fuse box on the first night that ate a fuse.
3. A 160 head with the really old skool temp sensor for the temp gauge that no one seems to have calibrated for MS, and that doesn't seem to want to run MS and the temp gauge at the same time.
It might have gone way faster if it weren't so damn cold, John has lots of patience even in the cold. I had more patience once I put on ski pants, but it isn't like sitting in 80 degree sunshine lazily pouring over the potential issues and just getting it to work. EDIT: so, Isaac, you live in Fl, what is holding you up? /EDIT
With a clean tach signal it revs quite fast with the flat flywheel. I learned a lot about crazy K-jet (I skipped straight from D-jet to LH), and once you have someone like John who has done it a few times to patiently help you out, you realize that it is fairly straight forward to get running if you get the car in decent shape first.
The narrow band non heated 02 is a little annoying, because the readings seem to slowly fade in and work. However, one warm, we got a solid data log before Adrian's laptop battery ran out.

Hank Scorpio
12-06-2004, 01:14 AM
With good friends to help out, yes.


hahah consider me "not a good friend" cause theres no way in hell I would have frozen my ass off to do that in the middle of winter! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: You guys are truely insane!

The Aspirator
12-06-2004, 04:27 AM
hahah consider me "not a good friend" cause theres no way in hell I would have frozen my ass off to do that in the middle of winter! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: You guys are truely insane!That's just how we kick it up here :-P .

adrianpike
12-06-2004, 04:31 AM
very complicated but im shure it works all the same

and loving the virgo's

Not all that complicated once you understand it. At least for my mind, it's simpler than K-jet. Ugh, K-jet. *shudder* Virgo's rule. Gunmetal w/polished lip soon.

so megasquirt is really easy enough to throw in in a college parkinlot? thats nutz.
Hell yeah, a college parking lot is where I get the vast majority of my work done... Heater cores, steering racks, brake calipers, the like. All you guys with shops are just spoiled. :-D
But yeah, it was pretty easy. I took the mechanicals, John took the wiring, and we got it done pretty painless. The rain got annoying, but after I was soaked completely through, I didn't notice it anymore.
Of course, when 945ti showed up, the rain had stopped, but by then the temps had dropped nicely, and I couldn't feel my little bits.

hahah consider me "not a good friend" cause theres no way in hell I would have frozen my ass off to do that in the middle of winter! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: You guys are truely insane!

STFU SoCal boy. :-P
In truth, as long as you wear long underwear, it's not all that bad. The first time I only wore a pair of jeans and a bunch of sweatshirts, and that didn't work too well. The second time, more sweatshirts and multiple pant layers, and bada-bing, I was in like flin. It wasn't that insane. Well, perhaps just a little.

UPDATE:
Battery's dead. D'oh! :-P

Kirby
12-06-2004, 06:35 AM
it's official. the 242's getting it's k-jet ditched STAT.

swedefiend
12-06-2004, 06:48 AM
That's just how we kick it up here :-P .

That's how we do it in Bama too. Get her done - period.

Even if it means in the rain, on the ground, with mosquitos and crackheads swarming.

It's all about the boost!

BTW all of this MS banter is making me jittery. I've had mine built for a month at least but haven't installed yet because of a prevailing lack of funds.

Matt Dupuis
12-06-2004, 10:16 AM
It's good to see my spirit somehow lives on in far more advanced circuitry. Personally when I saw the word "Isaacsquirt" I thought I was about to see four switches on the dash which you'd operate manually to fire the injectors, with a chart of how fast to flick them in varying boost and rpm situations hanging from the rearview mirror.

Nice work. It's aliiiiiiive!
R O the MFn F while LOL

I'm lovin' that image!

The Aspirator
12-06-2004, 04:01 PM
It's good to see my spirit somehow lives on in far more advanced circuitry. Personally when I saw the word "Isaacsquirt" I thought I was about to see four switches on the dash which you'd operate manually to fire the injectors, with a chart of how fast to flick them in varying boost and rpm situations hanging from the rearview mirror.

Nice work. It's aliiiiiiive!New sig time, that's just awesome.

luke242ti
12-06-2004, 05:32 PM
Awesome! Glad to hear one more car successfully MS equipped!

Always nice to have friends like that! Well done guys!
That is how our group is around here too. Its quite nice!

take care