Dyno time available in Portland

[Yea, Right]

I have openings for dyno time on May14th starting around 12:00. Cost will be $75/hr and you will need to do any tuning yourself. I am looking for 4 cars to participate. I will be using the first half of the day to break in and tune the engine in my 740. Contact me at peter@petesvshop.com for more details.

[coldfusion21]

where at?


Depends on if i get a couple checks from the state i am expecting. if so, then yea, i'd be down for an hour.

[Boosted2003]

I have openings for dyno time on May14th starting around 12:00. Cost will be $75/hr and you will need to do any tuning yourself. I am looking for 4 cars to participate. I will be using the first half of the day to break in and tune the engine in my 740. Contact me at peter@petesvshop.com for more details.


I think you move your shop to florida man. Warm year around.

[towerymt]

Moved to events...

...and I like your post titles, they're always funny because of your username. ;-)

[Yea, Right]

I think you move your shop to florida man. Warm year around.

You do not know how to vote in florida, not a chance I will leave my liberal bastion. :)

The dyno time is at Matrix

[klr142]

Moved to events...

...and I like your post titles, they're always funny because of your username. ;-)
Hahah.


Eric, Nick and I have been conversing a little bit about renting out the dyno for a bit around the same time... Nick was thinking he wouldn't be able to make it though, so that'd limit it to Eric, my friend and I. We were thinking of going to Torquefreaks... Matrix aye? Hmm, well, we went to torquefreaks last time so it'd be on the same dyno... What kind of dyno do they use at Matrix? Does the $75 include A/F readings?

[Yea, Right]

Matrix has a Mustang 4 wheel dyno. Yes, they will monitor mixture.

[klr142]

Matrix has a Mustang 4 wheel dyno. Yes, they will monitor mixture.
Yeah, so that will show something different than a 2 wheel dynojet 248 or whatever they are... I really need something that'll compare exactly the same to measure the minute differences that I've made. So I don't know if I'll be up for this. I'll keep you updated.

[Poik]

I heard there is also a shop called WOT Performance with a pretty new mustang dyno, and the owner knows a lot about tuning apparently. Seems to know his stuff about the dyno and how to manipulate everything.

[Yea, Right]

If calibrated properly and the runs done the same way the numbers should be fairly close. Being a 4-wheel capable dyno does not make a difference. In General you can only accurately compare runs done back to back on the same day done the same way. There are too many varables involved.

[NChoy]

Put me down. The 745 should be ready by May 1.

[Yea, Right]

You are in Nick, three spaces left.

[turbobrick211]

So Peter, if I only need 1/2 hour, do I only pay $32.50?

Yeah, I have been meaning to get to the dyno, it would be worth it to run at Matrix, if anything because they will let us tune between runs. At Torque Freaks, they wouldn't let us tune, just gave us 3 runs for $30. Not much of a point there, except to get a baseline. Now that the tranny is done, rear end is done (sans posi), and the car is running pretty smooth. I will get back to you soon Peter, as I would say that I might be in. We'll see how much tq the ol' K-jet is putting down!

Eric

[klr142]

You are in Nick, three spaces left.
Eric, me(maybe) and my friend. My friend and I will only need an hour between the two of us. He only will need to do two/three runs, which should only take 25min or so. So that would work for the other half of Eric's hour, if that's all he wants to do(don't you want to tune a little bit?).

I'll keep y'all updated. Not sure if I want to waste the money dynoing my 3.6cyl motor or not.

[klr142]

Alright, I'm not going to run, not worth my money with a worn out motor I guess. At least I have some sort of baseline for a stockish motor. We'll see what the next one pumps out... :twisted:

So just count my friend in. That makes 3 more people after you... Get the Opel dynoed? Maybe someone contact Marc and see if he wants to dyno his 142? I don't think he's had it on a dyno since a long time ago... And I don't think he put out as much as I was planning on making if my motor had four good pistons worth of rings...

[towerymt]

So Peter, if I only need 1/2 hour, do I only pay $32.50?

Yeah, I have been meaning to get to the dyno, it would be worth it to run at Matrix, if anything because they will let us tune between runs. At Torque Freaks, they wouldn't let us tune, just gave us 3 runs for $30. Not much of a point there, except to get a baseline.
I would guess that you need more than 1/2hr to do any tuning, assuming that 1/2hr includes strapping down the car and getting things setup, then taking the car off the dyno. Plus they might not like your math, so that could be another problem. :-P

[Yea, Right]

You can,t do anything on a dyno in 1/2 hour. The cost is $75 per car and I am leaving time for 4 cars. Marc will go if his engine is up and running and I will be doing that work now so it seems. The Opel is a "if time" as it is up and running but may be in the paint shop. So That makes Nick, Marc, maybe Eric, and Kyles friend (what is his name and what will he be bringing?). Looks booked up. If anyone backs out after May 1 They will be castrated (if not already, and if so I will come up with another equally painfull and degrading punishment). Payment will be made at the time of release for the dyno.

[klr142]

You can,t do anything on a dyno in 1/2 hour. The cost is $75 per car and I am leaving time for 4 cars. Marc will go if his engine is up and running and I will be doing that work now so it seems. The Opel is a "if time" as it is up and running but may be in the paint shop. So That makes Nick, Marc, maybe Eric, and Kyles friend (what is his name and what will he be bringing?). Looks booked up. If anyone backs out after May 1 They will be castrated (if not already, and if so I will come up with another equally painfull and degrading punishment). Payment will be made at the time of release for the dyno.
At Torquefreaks they could have a car on the dyno, make three pulls, and off the dyno in a half an hour. Are you saying that Matrix can't do that? Or are you just saying not to expect to do ANY tuning in a half an hour?

Zak Huerta, (my friend), in his 1991 Nissan 240SX, will not be doing any tuning, just doing a follow up run to his dissappointing original run at Torquefreaks. That's one of the main reasons why we're worried about doing it on a 4whl mustang dyno, because they do read differently than a two wheel Dynojet. How different? Hopefully not much. Last time he made a max of 121hp on his first run, with the power going down as the heat went up for the successive two runs. He's done some much needed maintenence since then, and added a 2.5" Magnaflow cat and an 80mm exhaust and it's gained a decent bit of power. If back on the other dyno, I'd say somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-20hp if everything was running perfect. On the Mustang, I have no idea what it'll pull.

And the sad thing is, that recently, it's developed a dead spot... It feels like it's coming "on cam" at 4500rpm or so, and it should NOT feel like that. It used to be smooth and powerful the whole way through. Now it feels a bit sluggish underneath 4500, but not so much at lower rpm. We'll see what the dyno chart says. Thanks for arranging Peter!

[Yea, Right]

Hi Kyle. If torque freaks can do that in 1/2 an hour that is truly impressive. I have done hundreds of dyno pulls at Matrix and am confident in thier abilities. As I have stated before I would never compare dyno runs done on different days and definately not on different dyno's. Any well calibrated dyno will give you reletively accurate output numbers. The real purpose is not to get a number that you can brag about (or not) it is to test the tune of your engine. Even if you have no means of adjustment you will be able to tell if you need tuning.

[NChoy]

I think this bad boy alone is going to add 50HP:

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=38120&highlight=NChoy

[klr142]

it is to test the tune of your engine.
Sounds good, but ^that^ is what we did last time. And now we want to see what the improvements in tune have done for our cars. But now my car's too toasted to even bother with, and his car has some wierd situation. So we'll just see what happens. Count his car in! Thanks! :-D

[reeferman]

any spots left ......???????
add me for a three pull run if so.

[NChoy]

any spots left ......???????
add me for a three pull run if so.

Tony,

If there's no room left, you can take my spot. I'm still iffy on even making it to this thing. There's a single 3" silicone coupler I'm waiting on from Turbonetics. They don't even get it from their supplier till May 2, so I should see it by May 6. We do the exhaust that weekend... giving me one week to do shake-down tests before the dyno day.

[reeferman]

Tony,

If there's no room left, you can take my spot. I'm still iffy on even making it to this thing. There's a single 3" silicone coupler I'm waiting on from Turbonetics. They don't even get it from their supplier till May 2, so I should see it by May 6. We do the exhaust that weekend... giving me one week to do shake-down tests before the dyno day.

im picking up silicone hose today you can use it tell you get your stuff.

the dyno spot is for a camaro .. my buddy just got a chip and wants to see what it will do

[Yea, Right]

Hello participants. I will be out of town until the 7th or 8th. I'll check in when I get back. On the 14th be at Matrix by 11:00. We will do runs on the cars that do not need tuning first and go from there. Nick and Tony can decide what they want to do.

[Teb74]

Hey I'll be dynoing my car on that date at matrix. I have the '91 Nissan 240sx and just basically doing a followup for recent maintance and what not on my car. Just needed to make sure that this was the correct address: 4000 Southwest Macadam Avenue, Portland, OR 97239

If that isn't could someone please post the correct one? Anyways hope to see you all there!
And it's still $75 for a car? I dont need to do tuning or anything just 3 quick runs. No way i'm gonna use an hour...

[klr142]

Peter, you mentioned $75 per car... That's a lot of money for kids with no money. Just three runs in a group deal. $75 per hour would make sense, but I can't imagine it taking a full hour to drive into position, strap down, accelerate from 30-110mph three times with a minute/2 in between each time, unstrap, back off the dyno... Are they really going to charge us $75 per car? We aren't doing any tuning, and we don't even need to do three runs, two would be fine if we can save money. We're VERY tight on money.

Sorry for just noticing you mentioning $75 per car, $75 per hour makes more sense as was originally posted.

I don't want to be an ass, but seriously...

[Tuff240]

Peter, you mentioned $75 per car... That's a lot of money for kids with no money. Just three runs in a group deal. $75 per hour would make sense, but I can't imagine it taking a full hour to drive into position, strap down, accelerate from 30-110mph three times with a minute/2 in between each time, unstrap, back off the dyno... Are they really going to charge us $75 per car? We aren't doing any tuning, and we don't even need to do three runs, two would be fine if we can save money. We're VERY tight on money.

Sorry for just noticing you mentioning $75 per car, $75 per hour makes more sense as was originally posted.

I don't want to be an ass, but seriously...

Answer:
The cost is $75 per car

Or $70 and a large pizza. :-P

If you don't like the price, you don't HAVE to dyno your car. Plain and simple.

[frostburner]

Hi Kyle. If torque freaks can do that in 1/2 an hour that is truly impressive. I have done hundreds of dyno pulls at Matrix and am confident in thier abilities. As I have stated before I would never compare dyno runs done on different days and definately not on different dyno's. Any well calibrated dyno will give you reletively accurate output numbers. The real purpose is not to get a number that you can brag about (or not) it is to test the tune of your engine. Even if you have no means of adjustment you will be able to tell if you need tuning.

weve done dyno at the place i work in 1 5 min.. strap in, pull 3times and strap off.. of course 1 guy was doing rear straps.. 1 was doing front and one was in car while the 4th was working the computer.. but no less 15 a car

[linuxman51]

$75 is cheap, most dynos start at $100....

[Yea, Right]

Edited for small children

[linuxman51]

you guys won't survive when the reality of life kicks in.


hahahahahahahahah

[NChoy]

Answer:


Or $70 and a large pizza. :-P

If you don't like the price, you don't HAVE to dyno your car. Plain and simple.

HAHAHA...

Actually Pat, it should be $70, a large pizza and a six pack of beer. You forgot to factor in inflation and the rise in the cost of living since last weekend.

Kyle, seriously no offense, but if you guys want to play with the big boys, you gotta pay the big boy prices. IMHO, $75 is a frik'n steal for 1 hour of dyno time. I can probably have my car tuned in half an hour, but it's sure nice to have some buffer in case things don't go the way we planned...

By the way folks, the dual exhaust sounds SOOOOO SWEEEEET and looks even sweeter.

[reeferman]

it sucks ive got nothing to dyno...
i should do the s70 to see if the euc from IPD gave me the power they say...
anyway ill be there.

[klr142]

We don't need an hour.

We'll go to Torquefreaks, like I was originally trying to setup, but was waiting on Nick and Eric for their rides to be together so we could do it. Then this popped up, and $75/hr would have been fine for two different cars at TF, which is what I was thinking of when I agreed to do this. Playing with the big boys? Riiight... I'll play with the big boys when I need to, but when I can get away with less than $75 for three dyno pulls, and I'm not some person with a real job that is 25-35 years of age, I'll f'n do it. I'm not rich, my friend's not rich. I'll take torquefreaks, thanks for the offer though.

We're not going to be dynoing anything this saturday, not at those prices. We'll pay for the time we spend on a dyno, because we can arrange it so it'll be cheaper for us.

Don't give me 'ish about dropping out, because I agreed to $75/hour, with the idea that someone else would take up the other half an hour on the dyno like we were having setup at Torquefreaks. Nick and Tony's friend don't have to fight for a spot anymore, Zak is not going to use 600 miles of gas money on a dyno run that won't even compare with the original one. Sorry, not this time boys.

[Hank Scorpio]

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[NChoy]

Before we let this thread die, I have to say one more thing about this whole TorqueFreaks vs. Matrix thing.

If you're just getting a baseline, TF is the way to go. Sure I'm all about saving money, but I'm willing to pay for something if it is top-quality and I get my money's worth.

I'm not sure about the fourth person, (Tony... either you or Israel), but Peter, Eric and myself are TUNING on Saturday, and since TF doesn't allow tuning, Matrix is the answer. I've never done a dyno run at TF, so I can't say how they are, but I have done dyno pulls at Matrix, and they're top notch and very professional. (You're welcome Jeremy).

So Kyle, don't get all pissy about this thread. It's not personal. Bottom line is that Matrix is charging by the hour, and if you don't use the whole hour, you still have to cough up $75. There's nothing you or anyone else can do to change that. Ever worked with an attorney or a psychologist? If you talk to them for 40 minutes, you get billed for an hour, plain and simple.

Kudos to Peter for setting this up. See you all bright and early Saturday. Tony, stop by my house around 10am and we'll convoy up there together. Maybe we'll stop at the local Dutch Bros. kiosk on the way...

[klr142]

I edited that last post for a more calm response...

And Nick, Torquefreaks is where IPD goes to test their upgrades FWIW. They do do tuning, and as a matter of fact, they have people who fly out and tune accross the country. Their website has more information. We can get two cars to split an hour on the dyno, so we'll take the discounted price that we can get.

[reeferman]

if izz dosent dyno i will .plus i want to video the bigboys (some day ill be a bigboy)

klr142 ive got a Gtech you can use if your that broke (just kidding you cant use it you mooching mothherffuuckker)

i loved my time at TF ill use them again.

tony

[klr142]

klr142 ive got a Gtech you can use if your that broke (just kidding you cant use it you mooching mothherffuuckker)
I dun wan it. And I'll let you mooch any time you want. :-P Or just let me pay you somehow or work on something for you so you don't give me any of that name callin. :-P And yuuuup, TF was good, that's why I'm going back :-D .

[andrewlcraft]

Goddamnit, I have yet to hit this thread before all the editing has taken place. :-P

[klr142]

Goddamnit, I have yet to hit this thread before all the editing has taken place. :-P
Lol, well, you can look at Kenny's(Linuxman) sig for what Peter said, and then you can probably ask any of the other guys to send you their emailed version of my post a couple up if they still have it...

[NChoy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by reeferman
klr142 ive got a Gtech you can use if your that broke (just kidding you cant use it you mooching mothherffuuckker)

I dun wan it. And I'll let you mooch any time you want. :-P Or just let me pay you somehow or work on something for you so you don't give me any of that name callin. :-P And yuuuup, TF was good, that's why I'm going back :-D .


Why don't you two just have sex and get it over with.

[klr142]

Why don't you two just have sex and get it over with.
Tonya would get mad at him.

[reeferman]

Quote:
Originally Posted by reeferman
klr142 ive got a Gtech you can use if your that broke (just kidding you cant use it you mooching mothherffuuckker)




Why don't you two just have sex and get it over with.

im saving my manhood for jail (tax evasion sp)

do you know how many smokes a tight ass will bring.

[Yea, Right]

Either this thread has been jacked or we will be butt humping on the dyno at Matrix for smokes on Sat. Kyle, can you afford a pack of smokes?

[andrewlcraft]

Either this thread has been jacked or we will be butt humping on the dyno at Matrix for smokes on Sat. Kyle, can you afford a pack of smokes?
Make him buck up for the KY, too. :rofl:

[310]

This is stupid, in my newness to Volvo, this what I think of, nickel and diming everything to death. This is the kind of attitude that when we were MVP allowed us to no longer produce quality aftermarket equipment, alot of talk and no action.

[klr142]

Nah, I can't, and I wouldn't buy icky smokes for anyone even if I had the money. :-P I'm not going to be coming up to Portland this weekend because we won't be dynoing, so I'll be saving myself the $20ish in gas... Have fun guys, don't break anything, and put down some big numbers 'cause you guys are "big boys". Nick if you don't break 250 at the wheels I'mma kick yo azz. Just kidding, you'll do it. Hopefully... If not, well, you've still got the bling. Most of it anyway, still working on the rest aye?

[NChoy]

This is stupid, in my newness to Volvo, this what I think of, nickel and diming everything to death. This is the kind of attitude that when we were MVP allowed us to no longer produce quality aftermarket equipment, alot of talk and no action.

You must really be upset about the references to butt humping, smokes and KY.

This thread sure got jacked...

[coldfusion21]

wow, all that sucks, but im still definatly down for watching on saturday. should be really nice.

Torque Freaks is really chill, i did tuning there, they are very cooll and have had multiple different friends have tuning and work done there and had nothing but good things to say (albeit empty pockets)

[Yea, Right]

Dyno time is over. We will have vids and pics soon. I do not remember all the other output numbers but my ITE 740T did 401hp, 351ft/lb @ 1.5 bar :).

[klr142]

Dyno time is over. We will have vids and pics soon. I do not remember all the other output numbers but my ITE 740T did 401hp, 386ft/lb @ 1.5 bar :).
w000! GO PETER! Good to hear. What was your baseline? Before tuning on the dyno? Just for sh!ts and giggles of course. Kick arse man, now go lay down that smack on them other bums in ITE. Sweetness.

[the poi]

sweet jesus.

[Tuff240]

Dyno time is over.... my ITE 740T did 401RWhp, 386ft/lb @ 1.5 bar :).

:volvo:

[Yea, Right]

Yes, that was at the wheels.

Kyle,with my old tuning we started at around 365hp. I had to enrichen my maps by 40% to even make a pull. My 50lb injectors hit 104%at the very top. Looks like I will need to go with bigger injectors when I replace my STOCK intake and exhaust manifolds with hand made units.

[turbobrick211]

Yeah, the numbers are all Rear Wheel hp, so figure about 18-22% drivetrain loss, and do the math. My 240T pulled 206RWHP and 246Ft/lbs torque. This was at 15psi boost, so not too bad I think. Next month MSnS will be going on, and we will do another couple of pulls to see how much of a difference we can make. So that should be fun for all.

Eric

[turbobrick211]

Hey Peter, my car is actually slower than it was when I showed up! I put the shim back in, and it is DEFINITELY quicker, especially from 4500 and up. I have a feeling that the first time we pulled, it was still a little cold, and running a little bit rich. If we would have run it again, I think it would have done better. Who knows/cares anyway, MSnS will take care of all that soon....

Thanks for you help though, it is somewhat overwhelming looking at all the information, and trying to figure out what to change/tune. I am REALLY looking forward to seeing the car run at Thunderhill next month!

-Eric

[reeferman]

i got some video if someone will host it.
dont forget nicks 246 hp
if not youl have to wait a day or two

[reeferman]

i got some video if someone will host it.
dont forget nicks 246 hp
if not youl have to wait a day or two


video http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=40052



http://img109.echo.cx/img109/3648/mov0004200200018xd.jpg

[Tuff240]

Yeah, the numbers are all Rear Wheel hp, so figure about 18-22% drivetrain loss

@ 18% drivetrain loss, that would be 473 crank hp
@ 22% drivetrain loss, that would be 489 crank hp

And that is tuned for track driveability not peak numbers to impress people. Not to mention it is now ready for some other upgrades/changes to extract more potential out of the built longblock. If he keeps upping the hp, he is going to NEED traction control! :lol:

Mark dynoed his 142 ITB race car (limited to basically stock by class rules) and put down an impressive 117-119rwhp with his b20.

We also dynoed my old beater bone stock 200K mile 86 245DL (with m46) to get a rough idea what a stock b230f drivetrain would do. She put down a hilarious 71.2rwhp/92.3ft.lbs. and we all cheered as it slowly crested the 70rwhp mark. :rofl:

[NChoy]

My car's numbers were all over the place today. But it is tuned perfectly now (after about 8 runs... thanks to Peter and his laptop).

High score: 263 RWHP (second run). I got the 246 RWHP reading on the third run I think. There was lots of pinging during our tuning runs... hope my pistons will forgive me...

Last run with pretty-near perfect tuning: 237.8 RWHP and 267 ft/lbs. torque

I should be in the 300hp club based on this technicality.

[Tuff240]

High score: 263 RWHP (second run).
I thought I saw 268 when it was pinging? Either way, there isn't a red Focus in Portland that can touch it. ;-) :lol:

[PWRPUFF]

@ 18% drivetrain loss, that would be 473 crank hp
@ 22% drivetrain loss, that would be 489 crank hp
Drivetrain loss percentages isn't based on the wheel hp, but the engine hp ... therefore:

18% loss = 401/.82 = 489 hp.
22% loss = 401/.78 = 514 hp. :yikes:

Usually, I see a 15% loss calculated for manual trannies, 20% for automatics. Anywhich way, the results are awesome!

-- Kane

[Tuff240]

Drivetrain loss percentages isn't based on the wheel hp, but the engine hp
Thanks for pointing that out to me, I did not know that. :oops:

[PWRPUFF]

Thanks for pointing that out to me, I did not know that. :oops:
Well it wouldn't be a loss otherwise, so.

Such said, your beater is about 1.2hp short of being called a sports car ... :rofl:

-- Kane ... but yeah, you might want to check what's wrong with it. Any A/F readings with it?

[klr142]

Yikes! GREAT numbers guys! Except you Pat, that REALLY sucks. Yeah, what Kane said, that thing's missing some power, my mom's 244 with an automatic is almost(if not AS fast) as my beater, but her's is a 91.

Marc's numbers sound GREAT, a huge improvement over what he had done last time... Now if only I could tell him personally... Maybe an email...

Nick, w00! So, pinging aye? And you hit 268whp pinging? Oooh, I do hope your pistons don't hate you either. So the final run, did that have the most torque/area under the curve? Or was it basically the best setting that wouldn't ping on 92 octane gas?

Eric, I thought you had already gone to MSnS! Sweet numbers without it! That's Kjet work then?? Sweet, that thing's going to be hip-hopping. What turbo do you have on it now?

PETER! STOCK MANIFOLDS?! That's just awesome... :badboy: Yup, definitely sounds like some bigger injectors will be needed with the upgrade to some custom ones... And I'll say, DAMN to the numbers produced with the stock ones... Sweet. So, how did it do before you got the head done?(that was the main thing that you changed since last time you did a run correct?) How much of an improvement was it with the tuning(100whp?)?

Good stuff I say. See some of you later today!

[klr142]

Oh yeah, do you guys have dyno graphs/sheets that you could get posted somehow?

[towerymt]

Very nice numbers (except Pat...way to steal away my lowest-dyno-number-on-the-board, you sure killed my 85.6rwhp).

Peter, were any runs made at less boost? Any other pulls besides those for tuning? Just curious what kind of changes to power/torque are made based on boost. I'm sure we'd all like to see the plot when you have a chance to post it. I guess that cyl. head is working out pretty nicely. ;-)

18-22% might be on the high side (where's JB?).

Pretty nice result if "stock" means a ported '90+ manifold.

[NChoy]

Drivetrain loss percentages isn't based on the wheel hp, but the engine hp ... therefore:

18% loss = 401/.82 = 489 hp.
22% loss = 401/.78 = 514 hp. :yikes:

Usually, I see a 15% loss calculated for manual trannies, 20% for automatics. Anywhich way, the results are awesome!

-- Kane


I don't get it.

I thought it was a constant number based on type of drivetrain. Autos = more loss than sticks.

So... if my peak RWHP that day was 268, tuned RWHP was 238... what is my crank HP based on those two numbers and an M90 trans?

[NChoy]

I thought I saw 268 when it was pinging? Either way, there isn't a red Focus in Portland that can touch it. ;-) :lol:

Are you referring to any "particular" red Focus?

[PWRPUFF]

I don't get it. I thought it was a constant number based on type of drivetrain. Autos = more loss than sticks.
In general practice, it is. That was just moreso illustrating the calculations of what was thrown above, though. Such said, Peter's 401 RWHP, with a 15% loss, would be just under 472 hp at the crank.
So... if my peak RWHP that day was 268, tuned RWHP was 238... what is my crank HP based on those two numbers and an M90 trans?
268/.85 = 315.29 at the crank.
238/.85 = 280 at the crank.

-- Kane

[916volvosport]

then again different trannies could suffer a different ratio loss.. but yeah, it's only an estimate

nice numbers guys.. did dickman make up for his clutch burnout yet? lol

[Yea, Right]

I tried to make pulls with the boost controller off (.6bar) and at .8 and 1.2 bar. It seems that the 36mm tial wastegate that was rock solid before cannot handle the current flow. Basically the boost creeped to 1.5 bar no matter what we did. After I make or buy an exhaust manifold I will integrate a bigger wastegate and run a seperate exhaust for that.

We will be able to scan the printouts for the best run on monday.

[Tuff240]

(except Pat...way to steal away my lowest-dyno-number-on-the-board, you sure killed my 85.6rwhp).

BIG TIME POWER!! :-P

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[NChoy]

In general practice, it is. That was just moreso illustrating the calculations of what was thrown above, though. Such said, Peter's 401 RWHP, with a 15% loss, would be just under 472 hp at the crank.

268/.85 = 315.29 at the crank.
238/.85 = 280 at the crank.

-- Kane

I guess that qualifies me for membership in the 300HP club...

[klr142]

BIG TIME POWER!! :-P
W0000! What gear was that pull in? I had you beat with 84.6hp and 103.x lb-ft, with bad tune and retarded timing. Hehe, pushrod POWA.

And welcome to the club Nick. Haha, I mean, congratulations on your entry to the club that I'm not in.