Megasquirt any good?

[Jerry]

So i've been reading through the turbobricks forums lately, because im getting me a adjustable EMS. I've read about the megasquirt changing it's values on it's own. Is this a common problem?

I have thought of commercial products also, but they are way more expensive than the mega. But then again, if the mega doesn't work, than i have no option but to spend alot of money.

So how trustworthy is the megasquirt? should i get one?

[yozsi]

changing values on its own??? hmm, never had any problems with that.

[medfurd]

It's really trustworthy. In personal experience, I haven't heard of any of those freak things. Many many people here are using it, with good results. My kit was $137 shipped from eBay seller DIYautotune. Can't go wrong with a price like that! :)

[the poi]

heh, i've never heard of it changing values. that would be quite a feat really...

[The Aspirator]

It happened to me, one cell spiked sky high. If you keep a close ear on your engine and are ready to bust out the laptop any time something goes weird, it's really no big deal at all. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I've been running MSnS for well over a year and have had VERY few problems. For the price you just CAN'T BEAT IT. :lol:

[benflynn]

not yet...and the code is always being developed and expanded

[Jerry]

Does this problem only show itself with certain code-versions?

I'd just like to tune the EMS and be done with it, not to fiddle with it all the time.

I think i'm getting the megasquirt and just use it for fuel. I mean, i'm not building a huge horsepower-monster here. Just looking for better fuel economy for my brick with a b21et.

I dynoed it a while back and it had almost 230 engine-hp, that with k-jet. they say, that the measurement plate is a big restriction on k-jet, and just by changing to mega i might get 10-15 hp more. We'll see.

[benflynn]

it is only as good as the tuner

[swedefiend]

But then again, if the mega doesn't work, than i have no option but to spend alot of money.

:rofl:

Over 7000 registered members (www.msefi.com) and at least half of them probably run MS every day.

It is on my daily driver ;-) (for over six months now)

[245gti]

I'd just like to tune the EMS and be done with it, not to fiddle with it all the time.



I'm not sure there are too many aftermarket fuel mamangement systems that won't require fiddling. If you live in a climate where it's realitively consistent, you may have fewer issues. In climates where there are large temperature differences from summer to winter, some fiddling is required.... Here in Calgary we can go from -40 to +10 (*C) in 24 hours. That wreaks havoc on cold start settings....Having 3 or 4 different sets of settings stored in the laptop isn't just a good idea, it's almost a necessity...

Running it as a piggyback on the ultra-reliable Kjet as a boost enrichment is probably the least "fiddly" route...

[linuxman51]

you can pick up some economy by doing fuel only, but by advancing the timing at cruise, etc you'll pick up throtte response everywhere and fuel economy like mad cruising. Once you get it all setup you dont have to mess with it (altho a lot of us do just because we can--i'm certainly guilty of that), I know of several members who got it setup and then went for months without messing with it, driving the car every single day.

[The Aspirator]

Over 7000 registered members (http://www.msefi.com/) and at least half of them probably run MS every day.No way, there's probaly no more than 100 T-brickers running MS. That doesn't mean it's bad though! It just means most people on here don't mod their cars this much :) .

I've put probably 20,000+ miles on my MS, daily driven almost every single day. No effin way I'm going back to LH2.2, even though it is very simple and reliable, it just doesn't handle power and mods well at all.

Megasquirting my car and being able to control nearly every aspect of it is one of the coolest things I've ever done, certainly the coolest automotive thing to date. I love it, it rawks. But it might not be for you if you're just looking for a bit more economy from a mod that you just install and leave alone, MS doesn't quite work like that. It requires you to at least look at the laptop a few times a year. I went for a solid 6 months without looking at the laptop though, worked fine every single day aside from some cold idle issues.

John

[benflynn]

No way, there's probaly no more than 100 T-brickers running MS. That doesn't mean it's bad though! It just means most people on here don't mod their cars this much :) .

I think he was trying to say that there are many mamy cars running on MS, not just volvos neccessarily.

[The Aspirator]

Now that's true, I know there are thousands of cars running MS.

[BDKR]

That doesn't mean it's bad though! It just means most people on here don't mod their cars this much :) .


Exactly. It's a matter of plans, being comfortable in ones skills, head space, and/or even how long the person can afford to have their car down while it's being done. I'm not planning it until my next monster, err....., project. :twisted:

But for the cost and rate of development, it's the best out there.

[medfurd]

John, swedefiend meant MSefi.com, that's what the link was for. ;-)

[The Aspirator]

AAAAHHHHHH! Duh me. You're totally right, I thought he meant t-bricks. Links aren't supposed to be red! :-P

[the poi]

AAAAHHHHHH! Duh me. You're totally right, I thought he meant t-bricks. Links aren't supposed to be red! :-P
that caught me off guard too :-D

[ovlov760]

Never had it change values on it's own. Sometimes a flash doesn't take the first time and maybe the person could be confused into thinking it changed the value by itself?

[swedefiend]

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where {=[

I did that on purpose to emphasize the link. A lot of times people don't catch the links in my posts because the color blue used for hyperlinks is very close to black.

Anyway, I had no idea I would mess people up even worse like this :twisted:

Sorry for the confusion everyone.

[linuxman51]

My DD has been ms'd since december, and prior to that (different car) it was ms&s'ed before ms&s was even really well known for 5 months before i de-commed the car for other reasons.

if you run into electrical issues you're not likely to make it home with lh either, so the reliability issue is a non issue. my ms spends most hot alabama days sitting right in the sunlight on the other side of the glass and has never failed me (save for when *I've* left things floating around unprotected).

[ovlov760]

My DD has been ms'd since december, and prior to that (different car) it was ms&s'ed before ms&s was even really well known for 5 months before i de-commed the car for other reasons.

if you run into electrical issues you're not likely to make it home with lh either, so the reliability issue is a non issue. my ms spends most hot alabama days sitting right in the sunlight on the other side of the glass and has never failed me (save for when *I've* left things floating around unprotected).
If you're out in the boonies and any of the LH crap fails you're fvcked. MS on the the hand uses common GM sensors that every autoparts store would stock. Another plus. My car runs better and gets better gas mileage with MS.

[n xntrx volvo]

i hate ms right now.

[Wagner]

Just by replacing the k-jet i managed to drop the fuel consumption from 13 litres/100km to somewhere around 8,5-9 litres/100km.

[Matt Dupuis]

Never had it change values on it's own. Sometimes a flash doesn't take the first time and maybe the person could be confused into thinking it changed the value by itself?

Nope. As I said to John in his thread about his brother's car pinging, I had been driving on that flash for weeks and weeks, and in fact I'd been driving on it the day before. Then I started the car one day and ping-city.

No idea why, and it's never happened since.

I've been running MS daily for the past 2 1/2 years. -40 to 35 degrees celcius, in torrential wet and in blizzard snow, and it's never let me down. By it's nature, it's going to need to be fiddled with if you want to keep it in peak tune, but you can probably drive it for a complete year without changing anything if you really wanted to. Most of the fiddly-ness comes from weather, which is a tuneable feature to some degree, but it's a bit more advanced. I've gone for months without hooking my laptop to it, and to be fair if I would just leave my damn car alone I'd probably be able to get the tune down such that I woudn't need to fiddle with it at all.

[DeathWagon]

No way, there's probaly no more than 100 T-brickers running MS. That doesn't mean it's bad though! It just means most people on here don't mod their cars this much :) .

I've put probably 20,000+ miles on my MS, daily driven almost every single day. No effin way I'm going back to LH2.2, even though it is very simple and reliable, it just doesn't handle power and mods well at all.

Megasquirting my car and being able to control nearly every aspect of it is one of the coolest things I've ever done, certainly the coolest automotive thing to date. I love it, it rawks. But it might not be for you if you're just looking for a bit more economy from a mod that you just install and leave alone, MS doesn't quite work like that. It requires you to at least look at the laptop a few times a year. I went for a solid 6 months without looking at the laptop though, worked fine every single day aside from some cold idle issues.

John
I think its pretty easy to say that there are more tbrickers on MS than anyother engine managemnt other than LH but who wants LH?

[The Aspirator]

Sam you're totally right, probably several times more t-brickers on MS than any other system combined. I just thought Greg was saying there were 7000 people on this board running MS, but he was talking about MSEFI.

[kyle242gt]

What I want to know is how many MSers are Tbrickers; I recognize quite a few names over at MSefi.com.

Is it because our engines lend themselves so readily to levels of abuse that can only be attained with EMS?