New Member w/264 GLE

[Vee_Que]

G'day thought I'd introduce myself on here, I'm Alex and I recently purchased a 264 GLE, it's my first car and I have about 9 months till I can even drive it on my P's, but it was $285 and off Ebayso I ain't complaining, I am aware of the problems the V6's have, and I've yet to do a thourogh inspection of under the bonnet yet, I'm concentrating on getting the easy stuf back together (a few interior panels were removed by previous owner to replace original stereo, the front speakers aren't hooked up however) and I need to double check what I need to do the check if the engine is "camming" I am hoping it isn't and it probably isn't either, but for the price it could, I don't know. There's a few globes here and there not working either and the dash lights don't work, but I've yet to have a look in the book about it.

I'm from Melbourne and I will be joining the Victorian Volvo Club once my funds recover.

Without further ado here are a few pics of the car!

http://v8shakes.racerplanet.com/vq/264gle/DCP_1785s.jpg
http://v8shakes.racerplanet.com/vq/264gle/DCP_1786s.jpg
http://v8shakes.racerplanet.com/vq/264gle/DCP_1787s.jpg
http://v8shakes.racerplanet.com/vq/264gle/000_1382s.jpg
http://v8shakes.racerplanet.com/vq/264gle/000_1385s.jpg

[MikeHardy]

very nice, it's been so long since i had stock wheels on a 244 if that i forgot how far in the wheels sit.

nice collection of 'rare' gauges there,

[samyboy]

:omg: WOW very clean on the outside anyway :-D i like it Nice Find! hope it all runs fine :-D

[oldschoolvolvo]

nice! don't know if i've ever seen a 264, cool tho

[Vee_Que]

I only know that the Virgo's are rare in Australia, but not the gauges?
Yes, the rear track is way to narrow for me as well, it's like 20mm less then the front, just ain't right, once I get the car sorted (needs a few things fixed up and replaced) I will get onto cosmetics and either spacers or a diff from another car with a wider track will be going on (either a commodore diff or a cut to size nine inch diff).

The cars aren't to rare here, but they definetly aren't as common as the 4 cylinder GL's and DL's, though I've seen a few around.

[MikeHardy]

could be the year, i'm pretty sure they went to a wider rear tracka t some point, mine isn't far from the same track as the front

looks like you've got postive camber on the front wheels too.


oh and nice hovercraft in the garage

[Zeeall]

isnt the 264 quite rare

[Vee_Que]

Yes the front end needs an alignment and it is a a hovercraft there, Dad got it about three years ago now, it's a Turbo Hovercraft 265 (such a coincidence in the name...) with a Rotax 2 stroke 532cc motor which was for the snowmobile rather then ultralight version.

[Forg]

isnt the 264 quite rare
Mostly because the B27's & B28's have all warped & died. When I was first looking for 242GT's, there were almost as many 264's for sale as there were 240's of all ages ... all probably with the last engine-disaster quickly repaired & up-for-sale until the next engine-disaster came along. :)

I bought a car almost exactly like Vee-Que's as a parts car for Big Red Car, for a few hundred dollars (at the time just the dash was going to cost more from a wrecker). It had receipts for about $8k in mechanical work in the last 3 years; and the engine was dead when I got it. Previous owner must've been way p1ssed! :)

[MikeHardy]

often if you see a 26x for sale here it's had the V6 pulled and a redblock put in it's place (even saw a 262C like taht)

[@5sn6s]

its good to see another young Volvo bloke on board! dont listen to the haters of teh V6s - the Pug boys twin turbo em and put em into 505s and fcuk up guys in clubsports!! :badboy: :badboy:

we tend to be fairly active - keep an eye out in teh events section we have a dyno day comming up in the next few weeks at Eppingmate - what sida town you on???

[MikeHardy]

if the V6 goes bad a swap for they 24V from the later 605 (not sure if you got them). the PRV in those is the pre 97 stuff

[Vee_Que]

Yes, it's the cam that I have to look for, from not changing the oil basically, it's unrego'd atm and I don't plan for registering it for another 8 months or so. I'm on the south eastern side of Melbourne, if the engine goes and my Mother (who paid for it, I owe her a few hundred for the car) lets me (mainly because she's just overprotective and if I still live at home) I'll be sticking a V8 in it, I can get a Leyland P76 V8 if I need to for free, but making it legal would be a hassle, so a Holden V8 seems like a good option.

I've been in a 262C with a 355 Holden Stroker motor in it, it's gold and he races it, the car makes around 350kw's or so (my mates Dad is freinds with the guy and did the head and mnaifold on it).

The same engine was also in the Deloreon, nuff' said (I also eventually want to import a Deloren and stick a V8 in it), but for the moment getting the car running nice and RWC'd is my priority. and btw, call me Alex.

[manbeard]

so 26x's are just 24x's with the V6, right?

[Vee_Que]

As far as I can tell, if you have a 24x GLE and a 26X GLE the major difference would be the V6 is quicker unless the 24X is a turbo.

[MikeHardy]

so 26x's are just 24x's with the V6, right?

pretty much,

[ashvolvo]

...
I've been in a 262C with a 355 Holden Stroker motor in it, it's gold and he races it, the car makes around 350kw's or so (my mates Dad is freinds with the guy and did the head and manifold on it).


Is your Dad friends with Ross Gilmore?

[ashvolvo]

could be the year, i'm pretty sure they went to a wider rear tracka t some point, mine isn't far from the same track as the front

looks like you've got postive camber on the front wheels too.


oh and nice hovercraft in the garage

diff widths are the same for the duration of the 240/260 production life.
This cars rear end looks tucked in largely due to the standard ride height and virgos, the two together seem to give that appearance.

I've had 2 '79 245s, my girlfriend has an '85 240GLE, I currently have a '90 240, and my dad has a '93 240 wagon. Track is the same (if you dont count spacers) for all these cars.
Wheels and ride height give the illusion of any difference.

[Forg]

I've been in a 262C with a 355 Holden Stroker motor in it, it's gold and he races it, the car makes around 350kw's or so (my mates Dad is freinds with the guy and did the head and mnaifold on it).
Oooh! That would be the one that was on the inside back cover of the 2nd or 3rd RACE magazine, I assume?

The same engine was also in the Deloreon, nuff' said
Erm ... ahemm ... *shuffles feet* ... we don't mention DeLoreans in polite company.
*grin*
Oh, unless it's a movie trivia night or something. :)

As far as I can tell, if you have a 24x GLE and a 26X GLE the major difference would be the V6 is quicker unless the 24X is a turbo.
Actually, there's little difference in performance, although the V6 is nowhere near as rough. The 264DLe definitely had more luxo equipment as standard in any given year; there are lots & lots of little things, to give an example my 244GLE is a 1982 and has manual-crank rear windows (whereas yours had all four power windows as standard), I don't have central locking (that was standard in the 264GLE), etc etc. You've got slightly more 'bling' too; I'm not usually a fan of 'bling' (eg. 244's never got actual trim at the base of the windows, only paint), but it's actually quite subdued on the 264 & makes it look better (& newer) without making it look too chintzy.

Oh, and the dash lights not working; everything electrical always turns out to be something simple in a 200-series. Most likely the dimmer-control is a dud; second most likely is a ground has come loose; a more distant third is that the previous owner accidentally pulled the power wire either at the fusebox or somewhere around the stereo. :)

[MikeHardy]

244's never got actual trim at the base of the windows, only paint), but it's actually quite subdued on the 264 & makes it look better (& newer) without making it look too chintzy.

what does that mean

[Forg]

It means "Forg's opinion is fact".
:)

Or do you mean the word "chintzy"? I don't know what the origin of the word is, or how it's spelled; it means much the same as "gaudy". An excess of chrome, for example.

[Vee_Que]

Yes my freinds Dad is Mate's with Ross Gilmore, the cars so quick, I was in the back seat which has had the seat belts removed and I just held onto the harness strap and I was just damn impressed.

I like all the trim work, though one or two of the trims over the wheel arch coming loose and one is missing, I hooked back up the central locking but it's not working still so I'm gonna have to fiddle with that and I'm gonna take apart the dash this week I think, the dimmer switch is missing and the light switch is slipping too.

[Aussie Volvo]

Hi All

Originally Posted by Vee_Que
As far as I can tell, if you have a 24x GLE and a 26X GLE the major difference would be the V6 is quicker unless the 24X is a turbo.

As the owner of a 240 with a B23e and a V6 760 with a B28F and a 740Ti with a B230ft

The B23e is as quick as a V6
The B28f V6 is more of a Hiway car not Quick from 0 to 60 but they are a good cruise car
The B230ft in a 740Ti quick car standard form very quick car when modified

If I where you I wouldn't put a V8 in your car. People I have talked to who have done this says it make the car unblanced and upsets the handling. Find a damaged 740Ti and put a B230ft in you 264 A B230ft can be made to go as good as most V8. There is a Australian member on this board who has done a B230ft in to 200 conversion. And there is around 10+ B230Ft conversion done in Australia

Originally Posted by Vee_Que
I only know that the Virgo's are rare in Australia

virgo aren't a rare wheel in Australia there are rarer volvo wheels out there

Originally Posted by Vee_Que
Yes, the rear track is way to narrow for me as well, it's like 20mm less then the front, just ain't right, once I get the car sorted (needs a few things fixed up and replaced) I will get onto cosmetics and either spacers or a diff from another car with a wider track will be going on (either a commodore diff or a cut to size nine inch diff).

The 200 series handle very well. But if you still require to widen the rear track Volvo Rsport make rear spacer kits that will widen the rear track.

There is no need to do a diff conversion. Volvo diff are very strong. Stronger than A commodore diff

[Vee_Que]

The P76 V8 weighs the same as the PRV V6 without the gearbox, both 150kg. But that is if the motor dies, and as I said, the P76 V8 I can get for free, how much would a 740 turbo wreck or a b230FT motor and wiring cost?

It depends on what Commodore diff you are refering to, the Vl Turbo/ Vn Group A diff is a very strong unit and can and does handle in excess of 500nm of torque on lots of car and they are more common, cheaper to get parts for etc as well.

The V6 stuff and the Virgo rims thing is what I have read or been told, so as you proved, is wrong, but I'm new at the Volvo stuff and of course I'm going to get a few things wrong. I think more of the 240 Auto vs 260 auto is what I'm thinking of, from what I've been told, the V6 is more suitable for the 3 speed box as opposed to the 4.

Edit: according to what I'm reading the rear track is 136mm while the front is 143mm.

[Forg]

I looked at getting an LSD Commodore diff cut-down, but by the time you chop it up, change the stud-pattern to match the front wheels (or change the front to match the Commodore pattern), fit the suspension mount-points, change the brake valving to match the Commodore rear calipers, change the tailshaft etc ... it's cheaper just to buy an LSD conversion for the standard Volvo diff. :)

IMHO, Virgo wheels that are perfectly round are rare in Australia ...