Mein Kampf: 1988 245 DL

[blkaplan]

Decided I should write some of this stuff down....

Our family is the original owners of my 1988 245 dl.
My Mom bought it in 1988 as a car to take her from Altamonte Springs to Disney 2x a day for work.
In 1995, she purchased a 960 and handed the 245 down to my sister. My sister proceeded to drive the crap out of it and crash it 4 times.
The car has new front end sheet metal, new paint in some places....
I cant remember her "kill list" but I know there was one parked Honda civic which was totaled :ROFL::ROFL:
One totaled motorcycle which ran into her front fender.
the others i cant recall...

I received the "beige headed step child" when I turned 16 with my drivers license.

My first mod was a crappy set of Coronas :ROFL::ROFL:, at the time I was dumb. I think I paid 150 for the set? It's hard to say but at the time I knew they were better then the steelies and hub caps...

I then proceeded to buy a stereo system after a year or so of owning it. I bought a Pioneer DEHP-4000, which is a folding face CD player, i still own it to this day...
This powered 2 4" alpine co-axials and 2 6"x9" alpine coaxials that were located in the rear doors.

I wasn't happy with the mediocre sound I was getting from powering my 6x9's from the head unit so after about 6 months I bought a used alpine 50x2 RMS amp to power them.

It sounded great. Nice and clear music and some form of vibration that could almost be called bass.....

The original tint we installed when the car was new went to crap so I proceeded to get the car tinted with 14% all around, the film was Quantex

Then (when I turned 18) I purchased some sub woofers and an amp...
2 audiobahns ALUM-12 (aluminum models) and a power acoustik apache 1400 a 2x700 watt RMS amp. I also added a set of 4" floating components from Audiobahn to give my car 4 4", 2 6"x9", and 2 12" speakers.

At this point I had fulfilled my need to cruise, bump, and be a hooligan.

My car was pimpin fo real!

I began to take an interest in autocrossing after a friend who started autocrossing in a 244 convinced me to take my stock wagon out and start learning how to driver her. I started at a small club in central Florida called the http://www.martinsportscarclub.com/

So to get ready I purchased some Virgos for 300 bucks from a Volvo only junkyard and some Yokohama 304's. The 304's were supposed to be there "ultra high performance rated tire" They were H rated and the biggest pieces of junk I have ever used. After 1 autocross I totally chunked away the sidewalls and the tires were basically trashed.

I went back to Discount Tire and complained that these weren't high performance tires. I was able to trade them in for some Kumho 712 205 50/15 tires. At the time these were new tires and were considered pretty good cheap sport tires. They managed to survive the stock wagons body roll and tendency to plow at the sight of a corner.

At this point autocrossing was in my blood and I couldn't get it out.

I started with some ipd 25/25 mm bars for the wagon,
I also scored some cheap GT upper braces on ebay

They made a decent improvement and helped to control the car some but it was still very sloppy on the "track"

After 4 or 5 months of autocrossing with that setup I purchased an R sport suspension package from SAM. It included the R sport Rally (green label) struts and shocks and Lesoforthes sport springs. I remember getting them dirt cheap too, It was 300 shipped for everything. (Exchange rate was 10sek=1 USD, before Bush ruined the economy)

This was really what did it for the car, the car handled amazingly and was very very fun to drive.

I rocked this suspension for a few years




more updates and pics to come soon....

[blkaplan]

Virgos and IPD bars.

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[BRUNOP39]

Where did you put the amp and the subwoofer on this wagon?
Thanks
Bruno

[blkaplan]

Some pictures of the stereo install..... Way back in the day. Most likely my first mod eva?

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[TerribleOne]

updates.. we want more updates!

[towerymt]

updates.. we want more updates!
-won't pass emissions
-giant rust hole in the floor (repaired)
-dents and scrapes a'plenty
-interior still brown
-ticking time bomb of a power plant

[Lord_Athlon]

-won't pass emissions
-giant rust hole in the floor (repaired)
-dents and scrapes a'plenty
-interior still brown
-ticking time bomb of a power plant

Thats what we like to hear on turbobricks.

[TerribleOne]

-won't pass emissions
-giant rust hole in the floor (repaired)
-dents and scrapes a'plenty
-interior still brown
-ticking time bomb of a power plant


That's all well and good but it's worthless without pics.

[blkaplan]

Some autoX pics from after I got the springs and struts on
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This pic i am rocking R comps

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[blkaplan]

Once I got the 242, I decide to take a different route with the wagon, I wanted more utility. So the first thing I did was swap some suspension around. Towery came down to NC for a weekend to help me out...

We put ipd overloads on the back, cut 242 springs that came on my 242 in the front, and swaped sways so it got the 23/21's and my 242 got its 25/25's.
pics soon to come

Here are some pics of the suspension swap,

Overloads versus the B+G springs, Utility!!!
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The new stance, rack is back baby!
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[blkaplan]

Some parts I collected from the junkyard,

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After pimping the car for a long while, I decided I would drive it to SE 3.0 and then go to florida for Orlando 3.0, at Orlando 3.0 we plus-Teed my car. It was probably the most hellatious plus T install ever. Next time someone tries to convince you to plus T your car 800 miles from home and then leave 1 day into the project, track them down and skin their asses.

Some specs from the initial Plus T install

Oil feed : taken from pressure sensor port: used a m14x1.5 to 1/8 npt T to retain pressure sensor and feed. The 1/8" NPT on the feed side had a hose barb which led to some fuel injection rubber hose, on the other end was a cut factory line.
Oil Return: Drilled block at b230f oil boss. Used a modified t3 oil return with a silicon hose spliced in to make the connection meet.
Turbo: T-25 taken from a 91 940 SE
Intercooler: stock 740 turbo intercooler
Computer: 541 ECU
Injectors: Greentops with ballast pack
Exhaust: 740 Downpipe mated to 240 turbo exhaust

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What i look like after working straight for 4 days after slicing my arm open on a radiator bracket when i was drilling my block
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The car had several oil leaks all at the feed, remember to use a thread sealant on NPT tapered threads! I knew I was supposed to but was braindead after working straight for so long.

When I was extending the AMM harness for the AMM relocation, I accidentaly crossed the wires. This left my car driving like complete ass! I nursed my ghetto ass +T home from florida to north carolina that way.

[blkaplan]

When I got back to north carolina, i was able to clean up my +T install, I rewired the AMM harness suspecting that it was the culpret of the ****ty running and sure enough the car ran awesome!

I guess as awesome as it could with +T on stock 2.2 ignition, after driving it around having some bad pinging i retard the car to around 8-9 degrees of initial advance, back from the stock 12. This helped relieve the pinging at 6 psi.

Here are some pics from after the clean up in raleigh before I headed to DC for the spring semester.

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oil feed
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oil return
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Tiny t25
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DP adapter
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The big mess
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[blkaplan]

Up until this point the body was perfectly straight and it had clean paint. The car just looked good. Well I am a tbricks member so all that had to be changed :roll:

On a snowy day the DC tbricks crew headed out to Mikep's to extract the transmission that was on its last legs, on the way there we had to pull over on the highway about 4-5 times due to the tranny slipping to much.

We finally got there! The transmission (a m-46) was purchased from M. Towery for 300 dollars, not a bad deal considering it had about ~16k original miles. It originally came out of Paul Schuhs turbo wagon.

The pedal box was donated from lawrences totalled 245 turbo wagon, as was the flywheel, clutch, and driveshaft.

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DIE AUTO TRANNY COOLER LINE!!!
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Much Better,
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Looking clean, shifting smooth
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****ed up, after lawrence drove it into a curve
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Now, any other time I would of left it at mikep's and came back and fixed the suspension but being the roads were deserted due to snow and the alignment in the snow wasn't too crucial, we dumbly forged ahead. Right into the chesapeake bay bring

The left side came out pretty clean, minus some trim.
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The right side has a nice guard rail marks all the way down the side
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Fender and turn signal are at a loss
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[oldschoolvolvo]

lookin good

[Addicted242Boost]

So you are only able to run 6psi w/ the resistor pack and retarding to 8? On 91 octane? How many miles on the engine prior to +t and on now?

[blkaplan]

So you are only able to run 6psi w/ the resistor pack and retarding to 8? On 91 octane? How many miles on the engine prior to +t and on now?'

Yes, thats about correct, the engine had roughly 160k on it pre +T its got an additional 15k since.

[Addicted242Boost]

'

Yes, thats about correct, the engine had roughly 160k on it pre +T its got an additional 15k since.

Thinkin bout +ting my 87 and just relocating the MAF like you...but i got 319k. Have any words of wisdom whether I should do it or not?

[blkaplan]

dont do it unless you plan on doing something for the ignition side

[Addicted242Boost]

dont do it unless you plan on doing something for the ignition side

Whatd you do for ignition, nothing?

[blkaplan]

Whatd you do for ignition, nothing?

Looks like its time to add the MSnS install, I installed this in the garage of my college dorm, lawrence and I hammered through the install.



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[blkaplan]

Here are some newer pics of the 245 that has been further developed,

Redid the oil feed with an aluminum earl's fitting at the turbo and a -4 AN stainless line

Oil return was done with a custom aluminum block that had pipe threading on the turbo side with a 45 degree aeroquip -10 AN fitting with a -10 AN stainless braded line. A steel -10 AN fitting was used at the block. on the threading side i turned the threads down so the fitting fit snugly in the block and then put some jbweld around the fitting. No problems, no leaks...

Added wiring loom to protect the wires, welded in BOV and installed block off plate.

3" stainless DP with wideband bung installed on top.

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[socalsean]

Cool beans. How does that BOV sound? I have the same one but never installed it and am thinking about selling it.

[blkaplan]

Its pretty good, it doesn't have a high pitched sound to it like some blow off valves its more of a whooshing sound.

[towerymt]

"projects & restorations"

OK, so when does the restoration start?

[mikep]

I think it needs black zebra stripes.

[blkaplan]

photo shop please

[isaac]

Damnit Ben gimme my car back!





















oh wait

[blkaplan]

Damnit Ben gimme my car back!





















oh wait

You wish you had a 2 tone dash

[blkaplan]

Rob needed a 240 to drift in a few local events and his 242 at the time was far from complete so I offered up the Beige Beast for him to beat the crap out of....

To prep for the drift competition we installed the following
Kaplhenke Adjustable Control Arms

Robs 17" Whitans and 17" Titans
Robs Camber plates
Robs Koni Double Adjustable coilovers
Robs welded diff 3.73 Rear Axle

Also a 3" sideexit exhaust which without modification to the wastegate made the boost go from 8psi to 16psi.... The car was fast and sounded great

Here are some pics of Rob doing his thing in my baby.

-5.3 degrees of demon camber
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[blkaplan]

After the competition the wagon got reverted to street duty again

Rob took his parts back
Converted back to open diff


At this point only good addition was
Kaplhenke camber plates...

[blkaplan]

I finally figured out the revised rear control arm mount I had been working on for a while so I decided to test it out on the wagon...

This mount eliminated the last bushing in the front suspension.... 0 compliance is the shizzle
It also gives an extra 5 degrees of steering angle, a double shear rear mount, and a 30% reduction in unsprung weight....

The prototypes I left unpainted and unpowder coated so I could check for extra signs of stress.


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So at this point the car has camber plates, control arms, B+G front springs and IPD overloads in the rear....

The setup is very very very loose.... The car has significant forward lean and the high rear height gives the car a lot of weight transfer so its very very ready to slide...


I also rocked the sirius with 205 50 15 kumho mx for a while....

[blkaplan]

After making some coilovers for others I decided I should try some of my own medicine on the wagon....

I got tired of how loose the car was at autox....


Painted Red/Green in honor of Lawrences 145 that was totalled a week before these were installed....

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The setup is 300# front springs / 275 # rear springs with Koni yellow fronts and R sport stiff rears...

This new setup really helped make a difference getting the car to stick on the race track.. Having the rear at a more reasonable lower height helped a ton to tighten up the rear of the car...

Looks a little too low

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[Vee_Que]

Looks hot though!

[blkaplan]

Dyno Tuned @ SE 5.0

These runs were at 8psi and it crept to 12 as the rpms went above 4k

Not to bad for a totally sealed engine (m cam and t 25)... It does have a 3" exhaust

The car felt a bit sluggish that weekend due to all the heat and that room defn did not give the intercooler the air it needed, at the top of my runs my AIT was reading 150 degrees F.... :omg:

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[stylngle2003]

we needa get that npr in there quick

[blkaplan]

we needa get that npr in there quick

true but in a non enclosed room ie any road in america it was enough to keep an srt4 at bay :-P

[stylngle2003]

true, until the hp/weight ratio in the srt-4 caught up with your crappy 2-3 gear spacing

[blkaplan]

less then one car length aint bad for da beige...

[TerribleOne]

That neon launched hard with LSD... But with MY last setup, I think I could've thrown out a chain and dragged him. Son, it's time to find you a bigger turbo. I'm guessing the neon was making about 190whp. You could be at 190 with a modded 15G hint hint

[towerymt]

That neon launched hard with LSD... But with MY last setup, I think I could've thrown out a chain and dragged him. Son, it's time to find you a bigger turbo. I'm guessing the neon was making about 190whp. You could be at 190 with a modded 15G hint hint
Snap those breadstick rods like Joe Theisman's leg!

[TerribleOne]

I keep forgetting it's a B230 not an FT.. Son, you're runnin on borrowed time!

[impulse922]

Not to bad for a totally sealed engine (m cam and t 25)... It does have a 3" exhaust

ouch, i wouldnt admit to that. You did all that work for a +T and didnt even put a diff cam in :???:

[blkaplan]

ouch, i wouldnt admit to that. You did all that work for a +T and didnt even put a diff cam in :???:

+T is not hard. I have a V cam sitting here, but its in a 531.... Why bother messing with the 530 head when i have a 531....

[impulse922]

+T is not hard. I have a V cam sitting here, but its in a 531.... Why bother messing with the 530 head when i have a 531....

get a 13mm motor to put that 531 on then :badboy:

I'm just messin with ya i know you got tons of other things to do

[blkaplan]

The 242 gets all the money and attention before this thing does, i just need it to run reliably until the 242 is running. Then i can go crazy with this

[77240dl]

if you sell it i got first dibs....

[impulse922]

if you sell it i got first dibs....

hes had that 531 since 04 IIRC, some newb gave it to him :grrr:

[77240dl]

well thats a hell of a freebie, but i got dibs on teh whole car though..

[towerymt]

well thats a hell of a freebie, but i got dibs on teh whole car though..
you want bne's 245dl? you must be new here.....haha.

[blkaplan]

if you sell it i got first dibs....

fat chance, we owned this car since it was born and will own it to the grave....

Only way this car is getting passed on is when it gets totalled or totally rusts apart... The rust seems to be at bay for the moment so... I will just keep an eye open for semi's

[stylngle2003]

dont forget, we gotta figure out why its leaking oil from around the turbloh

[blkaplan]

dont forget, we gotta figure out why its leaking oil from around the turbloh

true, i whiped it clean before the trip back to DC, so hopefully the last 100 miles will give some insight into where its leaking from...

[77240dl]

you want bne's 245dl? you must be new here.....haha.

Nah, im not new, I just have always loved the beige bad ass,

[blkaplan]

A Repost but it was lost originally so no one can prove it!!!!

I have been working on this design on and off for the last 10 months. I am very happy to say the prototypes are on my car and they are freaking incredible!

I started with the stock arm

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Then I decided to use some measurements, such as factory mounting position of sway bar and pickup points for normal axle bushings.

I then threw everything else away.

I have forever hated the horrible setup of a 240 shock on the rear of a 240. Cantilevered single shear bolt... YUCK! It also just happens to stick into your wheel well and if you run big expensive R compounds it can get sliced up..... Ask me how I know :-(

After a couple dozen design iterations, I came up with this

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A lot of laser cutting, some lathe work, and about 6 hours of TIG welding
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Time to get these suckers installed!

I decided to use a poly bushing for the axle connection as I didn't see much advantage to that over a spherical bearing and it simplified the installation as to not have to modify anything on the car and to remain "bolt on" I have purchased some delrin stock and perhaps I will make some axle bushings but so far the poly is doing superb.

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I am using a koni mono tube coil over shock for the rear. It is single adjustable.

Performance review:

My previous setup was Koni Sports front w/ 300 # Spring and R sport Stiff's Rear w/ 275 springs.

23mm front and 21 mm rear sway bars.

Overall the car felt very "good" It had amazing turn in was very responsive and loved to have "fun" There was over steer a plenty to play with and I generally had a grin on my face when driving the car.

The problem was is that it kept over steering all the time and I couldn't get rear traction worth a Darn when actually trying to be competitive in timed events.

I admit an LSD would help a lot but that is further down the road for the wagon.

The new setup retains the same front setup but the rear I go down to a 250# spring with NO sway bar.

It doesn't feel as confident with the turn in but the Darn thing is so much faster around a race track. It has tons more grip with the new rear spring / dampening setup as well as the 0 compliance rear.

The car has a bit of body roll to the rear but it is very good. If you go in to hot and do something stupid it will under steer. If you do something unsmooth it will over steer. It is not all over steer all the time. IMO it is a good thing.

I am going to keep playing with the ride rates and perhaps run a 17mm rear bar just to have a little something but man I am loving this.


The trailing arms add so much more control for the on / off power slide. You can immediately feel when the tires catch and break loss and it is quite amazing, it also allows the driver to exercise traction control (right foot) much easier and more quickly.

My launches are also remarkable improved. Before If i launched at 2500 I would get wheel spin. I can now launch at 4k and it hooks up and goes!


v2 coming soon :-D

[blkaplan]

forgot to post this

Hello everybody!

I originally built my 3" system for my 242... The fit was ok and i never had much issues with rubbing.... On my 245 the system just didn't hang as nicely... and i have coilovers.

The exhaust is all manderal bends (anything larger then 15 degrees) and is 3" stainless steel....

So I decided to do some revisions the system which included cutting, welding, replacing and relocation of the flex pipe which had rubbed through....

We tried to tuck the rear section as much as possible, with the axle at full droop the axle just barely touches the exhaust...

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I also used part of my old exhaust as a sideexit.... Very simple light, and loud I call it the kone kicker...
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[stylngle2003]

must show more pics of the bnespec tip!

[Crazychopstick]

That side pipe is awesome.

The wagon looks sexy as usual.

[blkaplan]

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:-D
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[JW240]

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:-D
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:drool:

[blkaplan]

Adding some night shots


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Prototype Strut Brace

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[DurableSwedish]

^ what are those last pictures of?

[blkaplan]

^ what are those last pictures of?

Swaybar brackets

[DurableSwedish]

got it. the tubular thing...

[blkaplan]

Just reposting this stuff in the project thread

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/78514750.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/78514751.jpg

Creating clearance for the weak link in my suspension..... tire width.

I still need to decide on a LSD but big tires can't hurt :cool:

I was very nervous to start cutting up my wagon but once the first cut was made it was x10.5" or bust.

Lawrence and I busted ass on this last week to get it done intime for Carlisle. Lawrences friend Adam also showed up to give a hand working the duraglass and let us use his DA. This was done on a pretty tight schedule, working 8am- 3am From sunday-thursday. Friday I ran out of time at 4am and had to drive back to DC to get parts for Travis so I had to hit the road with one side still drying. I will go back and redo the finishing on that side, but even now it still looks good.


http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160283.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160286.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160289.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160292.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160295.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160301.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160306.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160310.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160313.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160316.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160318.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160322.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160322.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160330.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160333.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160335.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160340.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160344.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160347.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160350.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79160352.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79164978.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79164983.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79164987.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79164991.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79164996.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79165004.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79165012.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79165018.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79165026.jpg

[blkaplan]

http://www.pbase.com/image/79165910.jpg

controversial stretch photos

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79751336.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79751658.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/79751671.jpg

the new setup is a bit prone to understeer so I will be making some changes to the suspension settings to get it back to neutral. Adding 4" to the rear trackwidth finally made it under steer. :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/80720780.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/80720781.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/80720773.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/80720775.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/80720776.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/80720777/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/80720778.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/80720779.jpg

[blkaplan]

Here is an update on beigpwr and some comparison shots

588 on the left 411 on the right
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81172847.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81172844.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81172846.jpg

teh old
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81172849.jpg

checkin da shim height yo!
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81172850.jpg

000000
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81172851.jpg

open wide!!!!
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81172852.jpg

The same day I changed to 350 / 300 springs from 300 / 250 and added a 19 mm rear bar from a 16mm rear bar.

[blkaplan]

This weekends prosolo was awesome!
The only good aspect of drag racing (the launch) and autox combined.

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171044.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171049.jpg

this weekends new rubber!
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171050.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171051.jpg

wing!
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171052.jpg

me and the amazing dadio
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171053.jpg

The competition,,, 1840 lbs :omg:
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171054.jpg

advantage varnson!
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171046.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171055.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171056.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/81171045.jpg

[blkaplan]

http://forums.turbobricks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3331&stc=1&d=1184123983

Time for more front spring

[blkaplan]

Another race this last weekend, the car is getting much quicker. I went from 18th to 8th place against the normal competition and there is still plenty of time left in the car.

this time,

32mm front bar
350 front spring
koni - sport
350 rear
koni - racing
19mm rear bar

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/82438641.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/82438642.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/82438643.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/82438644.jpg

I have 500 front springs on order and will be installing some double adjustable konis to get better compression dampening.

That should keep the rear from lifting as much under braking. The car is becoming very fast!

[TerribleOne]

Good lord could you put more pics so I have to wait 3 hours?! Looks good.. from the two pics I see.. I'll come back in a few hours to see the rest..

[77240dl]

nice progress... but dumb question time... what the hell is that thing on the fender?? at forst glance i thought it was a beer tap...

[stylngle2003]

camera mount

[norcal505]

lol
how do you have a scca/tirerack windshield banner in blue?
i have it in white (w. no back)
mmm....scca....

[blkaplan]

lol
how do you have a scca/tirerack windshield banner in blue?
i have it in white (w. no back)
mmm....scca....

I used 3m blue painters tape and applied the vinyl directly to the tape.

Hence the blue background.

You could also use a strip of sticky vinyl cut to shape to achieve the same more permanent effect.

[norcal505]

I used 3m blue painters tape and applied the vinyl directly to the tape.

Hence the blue background.

You could also use a strip of sticky vinyl cut to shape to achieve the same more permanent effect.

craftsy!!
i only have another sticky roll of the banner.
haha
thanks for "teh" idea!!
i'm gonna redo mine 2marrow:-P

[norcal505]

hmmm....

btw...

i never noticed that u had a hitch in teh back!!!??!!!

haha
im not alone!!

YES!!

[klr142]

:) How's that upper strut brace treating you? It seems somewhat like it uses a lot of material... Are you going to be making it out of alluminum?

[blkaplan]

Passed Emissions test yesterday on the first try :)

Ran midgrade the week before hand, I usually run premium but the car gets a better idle quality on the midgrade and I was doing a ton of highway miles, it runs fine but pings over 4 psi so I have been cruising around...

HC count .7871 GPM out of 1.4 GPM allowed
CO count 10.7656 GPM out of 30.0 GPM allowed
NOx count 1.6643 GPM out of 2.5 GPM allowed

[MrBill]

Passed Emissions test yesterday on the first try :)

Ran midgrade the week before hand, I usually run premium but the car gets a better idle quality on the midgrade and I was doing a ton of highway miles, it runs fine but pings over 4 psi so I have been cruising around...

HC count .7871 GPM out of 1.4 GPM allowed
CO count 10.7656 GPM out of 30.0 GPM allowed
NOx count 1.6643 GPM out of 2.5 GPM allowed

on ms?
is it benkaplan tuned or heeb tuned or what?
edit: if on m/s, rock on. Since you're a marylander, it might be time to consider historic plates :nod: Although seeing its already tagged and you have a jawsome personalized plate, maybe not.

[blkaplan]

its ben kaplan tuned.

yes on MSnS 27c with the b230F + T
M cam
CFI injectors w/ 3 bar

last year when it finally passed it did ALOT BETTER.

i had to wait about 20 minutes in line this time in the cold and i think the cat cooled down too much.

[MrBill]

its ben kaplan tuned.

yes on MSnS 27c with the b230F + T
M cam
CFI injectors w/ 3 bar

last year when it finally passed it did ALOT BETTER.

i had to wait about 20 minutes in line this time in the cold and i think the cat cooled down too much.

congrats

[amargill19?]

when will the kaplefunky wagon get that shag interior with the waterbed in the back?

[blkaplan]

when will the kaplefunky wagon get that shag interior with the waterbed in the back?

do they make carbon fiber shag?

[amargill19?]

do they make carbon fiber shag?

Imagine sitting on CF shag....


It'd be like accupuncture or somethin'

[RvolvoR]

Imagine sitting on CF shag....


It'd be like accupuncture or somethin'

i would be scratching my ass for days after that

[242teeI]

Awesome wagon man!:volvo:

[blkaplan]

just found my time slips from the last SE

The cars best run was 15.642 @ 85.44 w/ a 2.2 60'

[klr142]

Bump! Anything new that hasn't been mentioned in here yet?

If not... Get one of the IPD turbo cams for dirt cheap in the current group buy. It'll wake up your car, and probably make it a little less prone to detonating too... :-P

And, what is the effective offset you're running up front with the LMs?

[gear whine]

do you do all your own tig welding?? nice flat beads...


...slam that bitch lower

[blkaplan]

do you do all your own tig welding?? nice flat beads...


...slam that bitch lower


I can't take the credit personally for the Tig, Carl Behnke of Kaplhenke takes that biscuit

[norcal505]

ben, are you ever planning on warstripping this?
cus it will look teh sick.

[blkaplan]

ben, are you ever planning on warstripping this?
cus it will look teh sick.

there was talk of a variation of the stripes. it will happen down the road most likely

I have really been going back and forth and I think this will lean towards a track car build over a street car build.

so much easier to build a track car

[crazy0000]

First time I've gone through this thread. Sick wagon, that thing is a monster.

We better see some Getaway in Stockholm style footage with that camera mount you got there!

[seelighc]

Is that camera mount permanent? I spied you bouncin' up 95 this morning with an empty fender mount:e-shrug:

[blkaplan]

Is that camera mount permanent? I spied you bouncin' up 95 this morning with an empty fender mount:e-shrug:

yep its been on for a good 2 years now. hehe, i should have some fresh footage from this weekends upcoming race :-D

[klr142]

You're kidding... LMAO! You probably have a circle faded into your paint by now. That's awesome.

[MrBill]

yep its been on for a good 2 years now. hehe, i should have some fresh footage from this weekends upcoming race :-D

racing up to ikea?

[blkaplan]

racing up to ikea?

No, I have an autox this sunday or i would definitely be @ the meet.

[gear whine]

you and your beigpwr will be there in spirit among others...

[blkaplan]

the autox was cold and wet and the car was a bit too stiff for the 0 grip conditions. The tyres were rock hard until the 4th run when they just started to wake up. So this autox was a wash... (pun intended). Hopefully next event won't be 40 and raining.

[klr142]

So, does that mean everyone else had rain tires on and kicked your ass? Or were they all just as ill prepared, you just didn't drive as well? :-P

[blkaplan]

So, does that mean everyone else had rain tires on and kicked your ass? Or were they all just as ill prepared, you just didn't drive as well? :-P

it was a very low turnout event, the fastest in Street mod which did very well was 52.095. Man that car was sick I think my best time was a 58.2

being off 6 seconds in that conditions isn't that bad.

The best guy had full tread RA-1's which were the prime tire for the day. The 285 v710s don't normally get very warm and when its cold out they don't get any heat.

[PetesDustyVolvo]

285 v710s.... you're a cock sucker.... thats a lot of tire.

(before someone calls me a noob, i meant that in the best possible way)

[blkaplan]

285 v710s.... you're a cock sucker.... thats a lot of tire.

(before someone calls me a noob, i meant that in the best possible way)

i know, they stick like a eh eh eh loli pop

There should be another major transformation to this car this season. stay tuned for updates.

[project volvo]

vtak?

[blkaplan]

vtak?

^2

[Mark]

^2

sequential Vtak?

[blkaplan]

sequential Vtak?

VTAK squared!!!

[PetesDustyVolvo]

vtak does not frighten 285 V710s

[norcal505]

there was talk of a variation of the stripes. it will happen down the road most likely

I have really been going back and forth and I think this will lean towards a track car build over a street car build.

so much easier to build a track car
dammit no.
keeep it "street legal":-P

[blkaplan]

dammit no.
keeep it "street legal":-P

It will never not have tags on it. In md we don't have any safety inspections after the initial purchase inspection so i am free to do what ever i want to the car.

BEIGPWR FO LYFE!

[Jerd]

So when are you going to start selling that strut brace??? :D

[blkaplan]

Well, towerys long run of domination is over. This is the third consecutive autox that I have out driven him as a co-driver in my 245. Last season he seemed to edge me out everytime but now I am taking it back!

First win for the BNE was a autox incorporated event, the lot was damp in the beginning and the conditions were drying with each run. IE, every run the car would be much faster. Towery didn't take his 4th run very seriously, i think because on the third run he had a good gap on my best time but I pulled out a winning score.

4 102 102 Ben Kaplan 1988 Volvo 245 Dl Beige 65.520
6 2 2 Michael Towery 1988 Volvo 240 Dl Beigepower 67.086

Here are some pics from that event

http://www.pbase.com/image/98138974.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98138975.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98138976.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98138977.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98138978.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98138979.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98138980.jpg

The 2nd event was carlisle. He over cooked the brakes, i didn't know if they were going to come back so i was able to take a small brake to let them cool. I got the best time on my last lap and drove the entire lap not knowing if the brakes were going to be there when i needed them. I drove much more conservatively and it seemed to help!


The third event just happened at fedex. Rob and Towery both codrove the BEIGE. Rob was in E mod and he took 1st place, Towery and I ran in our normal SM class. I beat both Rob and Towery in this event. Rob took 2nd place and Towery came in last... Rob did great for having very little experiencing autoxing and driving on the Rcomps.

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</td></tr><tr style="color: rgb(74, 60, 140); background-color: rgb(231, 231, 255);"><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"> 5 </td><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;" align="center"> 2 </td><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"> Towery, Michael </td><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"> 1988 Volvo 240 Dl Beigepower </td><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"> 61.066 </td><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"> 68.736+3 </td><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"> 61.198 </td><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"> 60.705 </td><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"> 60.705 </td><td style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"> 0.982</td></tr></tbody></table>
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One great thing is i decreased my gap to the leader of SM by .5 seconds. It is a nice improvement especially since i did it on corded hoosiers and he had brand new hoosiers for the event. Since the last scca event I removed my trailer hitch, installed GT lower braces, and installed a 2nd sparco evo in the passenger seat. So some chassis stiffening and probably about 40 lbs of weight savings. I also took 3rd overall which is good for a trophy position... Its my first time trophying with the car in street mod.

Here are some vids from the last event

towerys lap
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robs lap
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my lap
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[blkaplan]

Finally installed the NPR in to BEIGPWR !!! I have only had this thing for like 2 years. I still have to pull the components and paint em but did a 80 mile test drive last night and all is well with the setup.

I noticed I lost some throttle response compared to the factory intercooler. This is definitely due to the larger internal volume of the NPR. It feels like it pulls a little better uptop with this unit. It was cool last night and all highway so its not a great test of how this intercooler works but it should pay dividens when its hotter out with less air movement running through it.

We relocated the mounts on the NPR and had to shorten the cold side tubing, The hotside tubing is a combo of factory tubes.



http://www.pbase.com/image/98918309.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98918311.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98918314.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98918316.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98918318.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98918321.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98918324.jpg

stock grille + NPR = eggcrate?

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/98918326.jpg

[blkaplan]

So when are you going to start selling that strut brace??? :D

pretty soon, getting setup at my new shop and its the plans to make a run of those shortly

[Jerd]

Looking great!!!

Thanks for the videos, and awesome pictures.

Thats awesome i love the brace i will keep an eye out on the website for them. :)

[Jerd]

You need more power! :P

[Volvorules]

You need more power! :P

Wait for the next update!! :oogle:

[klr142]

You need roll correction up front!
(I guess I mean we...)

[pooprah]

give me update!?! :lol: i seem to rember someone hinting about a new mod

[Tom Wiley]

give me update!?! :lol: I seem to rember someone hinting about a new mod

+1

[Colli]

Needs moar power! Needs moar of everything!

[blkaplan]

closed for reconstruction, :lol:

[pooprah]

:grrr:

[Jerd]

arg.

[2fast242gt]

closed for reconstruction, :lol:

ghey.:-(

[blkaplan]

Here's an update,

I got a 19T for the car, decided to make some improvements on the turbine housing. I am using the straight TDO4-HL housing which is much better then the conical housing.

I did some measuring and a 3" vband fits the outlet perfectly. This lets me use my existing downpipes and not have any downpipe hardware to mess with, minus the v band which is pretty easy and trouble free.

v band welded but minimal porting
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110097975.jpg

waste gate flow path partially blocked
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110097980.jpg


pretty
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110097984.jpg

I weighed it pre and post port to figure out how much metal I took off and to enjoy my awesome weightsavings

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110097972.jpg

I am happy with how the housing sits now, I think its about as good as it can get for the size of the turbine and compressor wheel. The only way it could really be much better is if it was external gate to help smooth the flow.

Turbine Inlet
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110097958.jpg

Nice smooth flow path with minimal reduction in area before it gets to 3" downpipe.
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110097961.jpg

Wastegate path, pretty much unobstructed.
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110097965.jpg

Final Weight

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110097967.jpg

7.5 ounces...

[DaButcher]

19+t?
How much can you boost the +t? still on stock comp?

[Colli]

Nice Ben, I will order a custom 19t from you when I got the cash. :P

[towerymt]

Turbine Inlet
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110097958.jpg
Now smooth it out.

[blkaplan]

Now smooth it out.

Yea, I am ordering some sanding rolls today. It feels better then it looks but the sanding rolls should really help even it out.

[towerymt]

It looks lumpy. You should be able to make it less lumpy with the burrs before sanding smooth.

[4banged]

wish i had those welding skills

[blkaplan]

It looks lumpy. You should be able to make it less lumpy with the burrs before sanding smooth.

Its not as lumpy as it looks, its just tough to get the finish you want with the carbide burrs that i had, they are pretty aggresive. Sanding rolls should be able to make it all good.

[olov]

ohs noes teh lagzors, what shall you do?

[740ATL]

I didn't know you could weld to cast iron like that. Nice.

[blkaplan]

I didn't know you could weld to cast iron like that. Nice.

It was a toss up to see how it would do, worst case scenario i would need another flat housing which are pretty easy to get. It welded without much trouble. I think the fact that the Steel was getting welded to the cast iron made it easier then trying to weld cast iron to cast iron.

[blkaplan]

Ok, I will try to start updating again.

Specs on the new engine,

b230FT bottom end, measured out nicely... Will see when she cranks over.

531 Head, rebuilt and refreshed. Minor porting, going to be running the V cam to start with and go from there.

Running a rebuilt 19T turbo with clipped turbine and modified 3" V band outlet straight housing.

Trans: TKO 600 with Clutch net 6 puck sprung ceramic clutch and Red pressure plate.

Flywheel: Lightened the stock flat flywheel. Went from 19lbs to 15lbs with a 48% reduction in Inertia.


Used the empty engine bay as an opportunity to clean up. Man it was gross, a nice combination of hard o-rings, leaky powersteering, and a blow off valve left a nice covering over almost everything...

http://upload.pbase.com/update_image/110820319.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/110820320.jpg

photofun

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110820321.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110820323.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110820324.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110820325.jpg

[Tom Wiley]

Why did you go with the 19t?

[blkaplan]

Why did you go with the 19t?

Wanted a responsive turbo, something that would bolt upto a ported 90+ manifold, and a target of 290 wheel. I don't know if the 19T will quite get me there but it should get me close.

The 19T is HUGE compared to my T25 but I still think it will give me all the characteristics that I like about my t25 but not run out of steam at 3300 rpm :lol:

[blkaplan]

I sent out a bunch of brackets to get nickel plated and blasted all the aluminum engine brackets and then clear coated them. I think they came out awesome.

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110820546.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/110820533.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110820543.jpg

Made a m14x1.5 to m10x1.0 bushing for my 5 bar oilpressure sender.

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110820549.jpg

[WeezilUSA]

Don't know if this already got called out... But there was an E36 in the last issue of Grassroots... Big Triangles Unlimited Banner. Congrats, gettin that name out there. Car is going to be sweet with the new motor!

[str8krewzn]

Valve cover comin ur was tamarow bro

[MrBill]

aww someone gave you one star :-(

[blkaplan]

Mostly assembled
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110820538.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110820541.jpg

[olov]

yay it's not blue

[blkaplan]

Some pics of the TKO 600 trans with adapter plate and modified bellhousing.

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110837620.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110837619.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110837617.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110837616.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110837618.jpg

[blkaplan]

The turbo is ready to go on, brand new 19T compressor wheel, new seals, new bearings, clipped turbine wheel, and rebalanced.

http://www.pbase.com/image/110838182.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110838184.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110838186.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110838187.jpg

[towerymt]

You're not going to fix the porting effort on the turbine inlet?

[blkaplan]

You're not going to fix the porting effort on the turbine inlet?

Its not as bad as it looks in the photo, the lighting makes it look pretty wavy.

I am fairly happy with how it is right now.

[str8krewzn]

I just saw these in person, looks great man, ill stop by in like HR drop et off bratha

[Captain Bondo]

Sweet- where does the shifter location end up for a 240?

[blkaplan]

Sweet- where does the shifter location end up for a 240?

Shifter position looks perfect, need to either mod the trans or clearance tunel though to get it as tight up as i want.

I will take photos

[SteveMD]

Nice. Maybe I will have you V-band my 15G hotside. Will go peruse the atp turbo website.

[blkaplan]

I should have some extra v bands here to save you some shipping, if you have a conical now, I would wait and find a straight outlet hotside. Its much better then the conical.

[SteveMD]

I should have some extra v bands here to save you some shipping, if you have a conical now, I would wait and find a straight outlet hotside. Its much better then the conical.

I have a brand new straight (or flat as some call it) hotside that came with the 15G. I may stop by with it Thursday after work.

[blkaplan]

I have a brand new straight (or flat as some call it) hotside that came with the 15G. I may stop by with it Thursday after work.


ok

[DNAsEqUeNcE]

please fix the turbine housing porting.

[blkaplan]

please fix the turbine housing porting.

Please give me your expert opinion on how it should be "fixed"

[DNAsEqUeNcE]

Please give me your expert opinion on how it should be "fixed"

Me? Expert? :lol:


IMO, make it much smoother. The transitions from inner housing to flange look rough, and the "Circle" (no idea of the term for it) is out of round. (seems like that would create some turbulence from the lack of shape alone)

I mean, if it works, run it. I just would like to see it "moar professional". I have seen some of your work in VA and I know you can do better. :-D

2c.

[JW240]

Looks good, the new motor and the new turbo. cool stuff. I like the turbine housing modification, i would copy you if i had a Mitsu.

[2fast242gt]

so whats that tranny from? looks awsomely beefy

[2fast242gt]

please fix the turbine housing porting.

have you ever built a car or anything? you criticize peoples work, but i havent seen you build anything?

[DNAsEqUeNcE]

have you ever built a car or anything? you criticize peoples work, but i havent seen you build anything?

Yes I have, and I don't post any of my work here.

That aside, does it not make logical sense to do that? Even Towery said it.

[blkaplan]

Even Towery said it.

Towery says lots of things, doesn't mean they are always correct. :-P

[DNAsEqUeNcE]

Towery says lots of things, doesn't mean they are always correct. :-P

:lol:

He's quite the character. :cool:

[Karl Buchka]

Yes I have, and I don't post any of my work here.

Lol. Right.

[olov]

don't listen to the haters, get that biznatch installed

[towerymt]

Towery says lots of things, doesn't mean they are always correct. :-P
Exactly.

To steal your phrase, it's not aesthetically pleasing. Take some lighted shots of the turbine inlet if you don't mind. I'm not done heckling ;-) uh, I mean constructively criticizing.

[MrBill]

yeah you know towery is just being his douche self, in the end.. it's constructive, i think.

[gear whine]

great job man on all this sh*t i cant wait to see it run at carlisle.


http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110838184.jpg


and yet i know you already got some heat from this, but y not port it as much as you can and really make it "perfect" now that everthing is apart?

i dunno, i would if i were you, just for the sake of the best flow achievable.

[blkaplan]

great job man on all this sh*t i cant wait to see it run at carlisle.



and yet i know you already got some heat from this, but y not port it as much as you can and really make it "perfect" now that everthing is apart?

i dunno, i would if i were you, just for the sake of the best flow achievable.

What would you suggest i do? Looking at it, if i open it any more on the right side its going to be bad because it would run the air right into the wastegate opening. Now i have it how I believe it would have the air mainly flow past the gate opening instead of running the air into the flat section. Looking at it I dont think there is any to be gained by making it larger. It will match the outlet of the manifold pretty closely.

[gear whine]

im mostly saying round the hole so it is "perfect" to flow air at its optimum velocity.

im not saying you HAVE to do this, you dont HAVE to do nething. i think some other ppl can agree with me and say you could get even more peaked flow if you just take some more time to smooth it out.

all in all it looks sweet though...

wat are the ratios of the trans?

[blkaplan]

im mostly saying round the hole so it is "perfect" to flow air at its optimum velocity.

im not saying you HAVE to do this, you dont HAVE to do nething. i think some other ppl can agree with me and say you could get even more peaked flow if you just take some more time to smooth it out.

all in all it looks sweet though...

wat are the ratios of the trans?

What do you mean by rounding the hole?

[gear whine]

What do you mean by rounding the hole?

ok, so there is the perfectly round circle that butts up with the exhaust manifold to seal it. then look at the hole you've made by porting the turbine housing.

don't you think making that hole perfectly round will help exhaust flow?

[blkaplan]

ok, so there is the perfectly round circle that butts up with the exhaust manifold to seal it. then look at the hole you've made by porting the turbine housing.

don't you think making that hole perfectly round will help exhaust flow?

no. not at all. If the manifold was round and the collector was designed that way yes. But its a 90+ removing that much material on that manifold = failure to manifold

[DNAsEqUeNcE]

manifold = failure to manifold

:rofl:

[gear whine]

no. not at all. If the manifold was round and the collector was designed that way yes. But its a 90+ removing that much material on that manifold = failure to manifold

omg im not talking about the manifold. im talking about the turbine housing.


http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110838184.jpg


look at the ridge that accepts the 90+, its a perfect circle. then look at your porting job, not a perfect circle.

if i was ben kaplan i would port the hole on the TURBINE HOUSING as to make it as round and perfect as i could b4 i put my newly rebuilt motor together. im not talking about the manifold.

but im not ben kaplan.

do whatever you want, end of story :-D

[pooprah]

like dis
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/pooprah/P1010325.jpg

[gear whine]

thank you!

[blkaplan]

like dis
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/pooprah/P1010325.jpg

got a manifold picture to accompany that? Btw, thats a T3 exhaust housing not a TD04 housing. There is a different amount of meat to be taken out

[Lord_Athlon]

the manifold isnt a perfect circle, its a rectangle. So why would you have it like that?

[blkaplan]

the manifold isnt a perfect circle, its a rectangle. So why would you have it like that?


exactly,

[klr142]

:uh::pow: Kids.

Props on being the first regular poster to use a manual transmission that can actually take the heat! But that 19T won't supply the heat to that extent anyway.

But it should be damn great and indestructible. w00!

[sdturbo]

I love people who freakin polish port parts like that. Its not like it makes any difference and after driving a mile they all have the same surface finish anyway. The lumps look like hell but dont make any noticeable difference in performance on a setup like this. You cannot see the sloppy port work when the manifold is bolted tougher.

[blkaplan]

I love people who freakin polish port parts like that. Its not like it makes any difference and after driving a mile they all have the same surface finish anyway. The lumps look like hell but dont make any noticeable difference in performance on a setup like this. You cannot see the sloppy port work when the manifold is bolted tougher.

I think porting is worthwhile but I never had "perfect round" in mind when i started porting this housing, its much easier to get to that full round state on a garrett housing because they start much larger and have much less material to remove. In general, round doesn't flow any better then rectangular. Just because the opening of an outlet doesn't have a shape that resembles something that we learned the name of while watching sesame street doesn't mean it will be better or worse for performance. Looking at how the walls approach the turbine wheel, I think this shape will work better then making it "full round"

PS, it is polished but when you have something glass beaded it dulls the finish.

[mikep]

Square ports of a given area will flow less than round ports of the same area.
Look up wing root drag.

Also, if that square hole is smaller then the manifold, that's obvious bad juju.

And polishing exhaust ports (that photo is hard-rolled, not polished, not even flap-sanded) has been proven to be beneficial in some cases.

[blkaplan]

Square ports of a given area will flow less than round ports of the same area.
Look up wing root drag.

Also, if that square hole is smaller then the manifold, that's obvious bad juju.

And polishing exhaust ports (that photo is hard-rolled, not polished, not even flap-sanded) has been proven to be beneficial in some cases.

I am not willing to open it up as much as the t3 housing this thread so I believe the shape I have used will have more area then if i kept it round but at the size that i am comfortable with.

I finished it with a variety of dia and grit cartridge sanding rolls if that is what hard rolled is? I have a flap wheel I could stick in there if you think it will be beneficial?

Is the raw flow number the only thing to consider? I didn't think it was. Flow path is pretty crucial and you also have material thickness for durability.


Yes, I can definitely agree on a mismatch between the manifold and inlet the turbine being very bad for flow. But thats not the case in this situation.

[SteveMD]

What's the best way for de-carbonizing a used exhaust manifold?

I wonder if a flex hone would be good for smoothing the manifold runners. Seems you could get one in there pretty far.

http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/2480.gif

centurytool.net has some good prices and good selection of sizes
http://www.centurytool.net/Engine_Cylinder_Hones_s/25431.htm

[olov]

better than stock(what so many people are still using i might add as well) :thumbs:

will support your goals :thumbs:

do what you want, it's your car, turbo's are easy enough to pull later and change if you decide it's worth it to modify(i know i have done this, used something i thought was good enough, learned something, then modified previous work using knowledge/skills i didn't have before)

jason

[linuxman51]

the manifold isnt a perfect circle, its a rectangle. So why would you have it like that?

You can match the manifold to that port, there is enough meat in there...


What's the best way for de-carbonizing a used exhaust manifold?

I wonder if a flex hone would be good for smoothing the manifold runners. Seems you could get one in there pretty far.

http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/2480.gif

centurytool.net has some good prices and good selection of sizes
http://www.centurytool.net/Engine_Cylinder_Hones_s/25431.htm

thats cool, might be something neat to add to the collective.

[blkaplan]

I am not opposed to changing it based on peoples suggestions, I just want to make sure they are sound objections and opinions and that I fully understand why someone is making a suggestion.

Kenny, got any pics of a 90+ being that big?

On the other hand, the lot of you could be conspiring with Mr. Bill to help keep my car from getting put back together.

[olov]

http://www.pbase.com/oo4playmrright/image/47121309/medium.jpg

that's what my 90+ looks like(more like two kidney's, more square than round imo) and that's a garrett not a mitsu

i didn't see any pics of your 90+, perhaps people forgot what they looked like :P

[DNAsEqUeNcE]

On the other hand, the lot of you could be conspiring with Mr. Bill to help keep my car from getting put back together.

:lol: Rest assured that even Mr. Bill doesn't need to bother with us to keep your car from being finished, from the looks of it, you could easily do that yourself:-P:lol::-D

[DaButcher]

WHERE ARE THE HELLO KITTYS?!?! :O :O
srously though:
Lookin good! What fuel will you run it on? E85? Premium unleaded?

[blkaplan]

WHERE ARE THE HELLO KITTYS?!?! :O :O
srously though:
Lookin good! What fuel will you run it on? E85? Premium unleaded?


I would rather run premium, If i have to run E85 to hold off knock then I will. You can get it where I live but its not wide spread so I would like to avoid using it if I don't have to.

Moar hello kittys to come

[JW240]

I would rather run premium, If i have to run E85 to hold off knock then I will. You can get it where I live but its not wide spread so I would like to avoid using it if I don't have to.

Moar hello kittys to come

I don't know which version of MS you have, but isn't it easy to have double mapping? E85 in my slightly modified B230F works great, with boost it is even better. Could be worth it.

[blkaplan]

I don't know which version of MS you have, but isn't it easy to have double mapping? E85 in my slightly modified B230F works great, with boost it is even better. Could be worth it.

MS extra 24c iirc. its been a long time since i looked. When I ever i tried to upgrade to any newer releases or high res code I couldn't get the car to start.

I am planning on switching to ms2 before I get the car dynotuned.

[JW240]

nice. I am looking forward to see the results (dyno) of the new engine+turbo etc.

[blkaplan]

nice. I am looking forward to see the results (dyno) of the new engine+turbo etc.

I have some time booked on a brand new Mustang Dyno, it has capability to do constant speed/ constant load, etc... So I should really be able to tune each bin on the map really nicely.

[Karl Buchka]

Do you have EGT?

[blkaplan]

Do you have EGT?

No I don't, Is it useful to have it one just one cylinder or do i need it on all 4 to be worthwhile?

I would prefer not to mess much more with this 90+ because the car will be getting header sooner or later.

[pooprah]

yeah i would think the 90+ would just crack from tapping it 4 times and it has cross flow so just use one

[blkaplan]

Did some work on the flywheel wanted to remove some weight and reduce the inertia.

Initial Weight, 20.5 lbs
http://www.pbase.com/image/110846878.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110846877.jpg

Final Weight, 15.83 lbs with 25.7% reduction in inertia.

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110846876.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110846875.jpg

It was rebalanced with the new pressure plate.

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110899447.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110899449.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110899445.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110899446.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/110899442.jpg

[WeezilUSA]

Cnc lathe?

[towerymt]

Drill press and a Ron Popeil pocket chisel.

[Canuck]

Looking good...I had my machinist go a little further on the outer edge of mine (B20) http://www.calgaryvolvoclub.com/gallery/d/14575-2/DSCF0011_001.JPG

I can't figure out what the dowels are for on the back side of your flywheel?

I didn't get as aggressive on the outer edge - looks like I could have taken a little more off. http://www.calgaryvolvoclub.com/gallery/d/14572-2/DSCF0009_001.JPG

[DNAsEqUeNcE]

I can't figure out what the dowels are for on the back side of your flywheel?



Lining up the pressure plate.

[blkaplan]

I can't figure out what the dowels are for on the back side of your flywheel?

They are for indicating top dead center.

[blkaplan]

Cnc lathe?

Yeah, Although I did most of it with the hand controls. Just had it do the radius section.

[Karl Buchka]

No I don't, Is it useful to have it one just one cylinder or do i need it on all 4 to be worthwhile?

I would prefer not to mess much more with this 90+ because the car will be getting header sooner or later.

Just one would be better than none. It's very useful for tuning your spark map.

[blkaplan]

Just one would be better than none. It's very useful for tuning your spark map.

Whats a typical thread for the EGT sensors, I can tap the EGR bung on the manifold before I install it.

Guess I found one for 1/4 npt, wondering if this would clear the firewall in a 240 if its in the EGR port.

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_indS.asp?Sender=VDO_Pyrometer_Thermo&PN=323-890

[pwschuh]

Whats a typical thread for the EGT sensors, I can tap the EGR bung on the manifold before I install it.

Guess I found one for 1/4 npt, wondering if this would clear the firewall in a 240 if its in the EGR port.

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_indS.asp?Sender=VDO_Pyrometer_Thermo&PN=323-890

It should. Don't know if you remember my original set-up. I tapped the factory port on my stock B21FT and had an EGT sensor in there.

[blkaplan]

Yeah, i looked at the manifold on the car.

Looks like i will tap it and either plug it or get the sensor

Any good info on what I should look for with EGTs and tuning timing? I know excess retardz spike teh EGT.

Will knock have any signs on the temperature? Is there a good target temp for these motors?

[blkaplan]

Was looking at the 90+ some more and there is also a nice boss @ the bottom of the collector that would be very easy to tap and to stick the probe into the collector area. Might be nicer to get an average value preturbo then just taking it off number 4.

Any one know how much of the probe has to be in the airflow to get a reading? The sensor i have here has about 1 inch of probe length. Seems like if only 1/4" were exposed it should still get good readings?

[Tom Wiley]

so, where did you place in the standings last season, and where do you want to be this season?

[blkaplan]

so, where did you place in the standings last season, and where do you want to be this season?

I took 2nd place for the season, which is very impressive. I would love to take first but I dont see me beating brian in the Civic. My gap @ the end of last year was 3.5 seconds on average. I would like to be within 1 second of his time. If I can do that then I am doing something right.

http://www.pbase.com/image/110949203.jpg

[blkaplan]

2008 Seasons standings

# 'Street Modified' Points 4/20 5/4 6/1 7/13 8/17 8/31 9/28
1 Karwan, Brian 48 - 12 12 12 12 12 12
2 Kaplan, Ben 27 - 2 7 4 7 9 4
3 Blair, Scott 26 - 6 9 6 5 5 -
4 Thomas, Andy 20 - - 4 1 3 6 7
5 Pilkerton, Steve 18 - 9 - 9 - 0 -
6 Towery, Michael 18 - 3 5 3 - 7 -
7 Appell, Peter 16 - - - 7 9 - -
8 Kunick, Stephen 12 - - - 2 0 1 9
9 Phipps, Joshua 11 - - 0 5 6 - -
10 Elam, Okas 10 - 4 6 - - - -

[v tech]

more importantly what vehicles did you beat out :D

[4banged]

If i remember correct the third and second runner is the place to tap it (i think because those cylinders normally run a little bit learner then the rest). I was told to tap mine as close to the block as possible. I tapped mine up a little too far and had to bend the probe to get it in.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/masterchimself/volvo/IMG_3116.jpg

It was a bitch to tap...so i would just wait on your new header.

[blkaplan]

I agree with Cody, I am not going to bother adding EGT to the 90+ manifold. I will probably do a setup when I get my tubular manifold. I am going to be able to tune the car on a load cell style Dyno so it should be fairly easy to get the timing to a point with minimal advance and max torque.

I did a bit more porting on the turbine inlet to satisfy the bench racers, Decided to radius the waste gate area and take some more material out to make the flow path a bit straighter. Then I used a template of the tubine inlet and matched it to the 90+ outlet.

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/111423771.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/111423794.jpg

Finalized the battery mount, Using an 11 lb Braille Battery and mounting it down low by the starter :nod:

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/111423801.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/111425072.jpg

It will make servicing the battery kind of a pain but I would rather have the weight down low and farther back in the engine bay without having to run all the wiring required when doing a trunk mount battery.

I am planning on mount an easy to reach jump terminal in case I kill my battery and need to get the car jumped which is a good posibility with the smaller battery.

[blkaplan]

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/111425814.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/111425822.jpg

[DNAsEqUeNcE]

I did a bit more porting on the turbine inlet to satisfy the bench racers

hehehe

[noah244ti]

that battery mount is genius! Me like :)

[4banged]

If you don't mind me asking how much did the battery cost?

[blkaplan]

If you don't mind me asking how much did the battery cost?


They retail @ 143. If you are interested I could get you a deal on them, I am a reseller for Braille, just haven't updated the website yet.

Will probably offer the battery mounts for people too.

[JW240]

I agree with Cody, I am not going to bother adding EGT to the 90+ manifold. I will probably do a setup when I get my tubular manifold. I am going to be able to tune the car on a load cell style Dyno so it should be fairly easy to get the timing to a point with minimal advance and max torque.


Maybe put the EGT probe in the turbine housing? This is how Garrett does it on some T3's:

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/540/p8223130.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p8223130.jpg)
(on my brothers car)

maybe the Mitsu's dont have a thick enough flange for that (with the recessed part).

nice updates btw! :)

[blkaplan]

Maybe put the EGT probe in the turbine housing?

According to Captain Nerd Rage Bondo, its pretty useless to just install one EGT sensor if you have a wideband 02. There is a nice bung on the bottom on the 90+ manifold to tap if one person wanted to have one collector mounted EGT sensor. Since I can tune the ignition with a real time torque readout I think that will give me more info then a single EGT will.

[JW240]

According to Captain Nerd Rage Bondo, its pretty useless to just install one EGT sensor if you have a wideband 02. There is a nice bung on the bottom on the 90+ manifold to tap if one person wanted to have one collector mounted EGT sensor. Since I can tune the ignition with a real time torque readout I think that will give me more info then a single EGT will.

ah yeah, i forgot about the dyno. It would be interesting though to compare wideband, EGT and torque readings ;-)
But the dyno gets the job done, thats the most important.

[blkaplan]

ah yeah, i forgot about the dyno. It would be interesting though to compare wideband, EGT and torque readings ;-)
But the dyno gets the job done, thats the most important.

yes that type of info would be very interesting.

I am sure I will retune the car when I install the header w/ EGT info so no worries.

[JW240]

cool. when my stuff is together i plan to visit a dyno too, should be interesting to see how things those measurements are linked to each other, with different fuels etc. I wonder if there is a (cheap) load cell dyno in my area... Anyway, I am looking forward to see results of your setup and Bondo's stuff, good to see setups with a lot of sensors hehe, my nerd-self (is that a word?) likes that stuff.

[blkaplan]

wastegate bracket is done, new driveshaft is here. new battery cables are here. pics later

[Jerd]

So did you miss the first points race of the season? Or is it on a later date?

p.s. you should try the ratchet-strap bracing.

[2fast242gt]

So did you miss the first points race of the season? Or is it on a later date?

p.s. you should try the ratchet-strap bracing.

no you shouldnt.

[blkaplan]

So did you miss the first points race of the season? Or is it on a later date?

p.s. you should try the ratchet-strap bracing.

Yea, I missed it. Good news is the they only take the best 3 or 4 events for the season totals. So my season isn't shot yet. :lol:

Turns out changing all these things on the car always takes time. Had some issues with the transmission conversion that I am working through but the car is getting closer and closer.

[MrBill]

yes.
a glimmer of hope.

[J2_]

cool. when my stuff is together i plan to visit a dyno too, should be interesting to see how things those measurements are linked to each other, with different fuels etc. I wonder if there is a (cheap) load cell dyno in my area... Anyway, I am looking forward to see results of your setup and Bondo's stuff, good to see setups with a lot of sensors hehe, my nerd-self (is that a word?) likes that stuff.


DP-Engineering has a load cell dyno, great stuff !!

(It is a bit of a trip for you)

[JW240]

DP-Engineering has a load cell dyno, great stuff !!

(It is a bit of a trip for you)

ah cool, when my things are ready (i hopethis century) maybe i'll visit them then, thanks for the headup.

they have nice egt/lambda gauges there too :)

[blkaplan]

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/111880923.jpg
I machined this tdo4 oil return flange. It is 1/2 npt and my 45 degree AN adapter screws into it.

Aluminum driveshaft, weights in @ 12 lbs. Stock weighs 22 lbs so a nice savings of 10 lbs of rotating weight. :)
http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/111881184.jpg

[Captain Bondo]

sweet i love the driveshaft!

one piece yeah?

[blkaplan]

sweet i love the driveshaft!

one piece yeah?

yeah one piece.

I had a target critical speed of 8750 but to get that with an Aluminum driveshaft I would have to go to a 3.5" OD which is pretty big and would require a bit of clearance or hanging the trans pretty low. This 3" OD should get me to 8400 rpm which is enough, if I ever get the car going that fast I can do some R&P/tiresize mods to get the shaft speed down.

The carbon driveshaft would of gotten over 10k rpm critical speed, with a 3.25" od with similar weight to an aluminum driveshaft but around 2x the price.

[str8krewzn]

Back to work
i wanna see that thing run!!!!!!!!!

[stylngle2003]

8400 is still pretty freakin high, not bad not bad

[Jerd]

Sweet! nice looking shaft :oogle:

[caffnated_madness]

cant wait till you twist that shaft right-round. if this thing is gonna produce, aluminum is not the way to go.

[blkaplan]

cant wait till you twist that shaft right-round. if this thing is gonna produce, aluminum is not the way to go.

I will never make enough torque out of a 2.3-2.5 liter turbo 4 cylinder to destroy this DS. The weak point in this driveshaft is the u-joints. A steel driveshaft would have the same strength ujoints. The fact that they make the shaft with a larger OD to increase the vibrational stiffness makes it really strong for transmitting torque.

[2fast242gt]

cant wait till you twist that shaft right-round. if this thing is gonna produce, aluminum is not the way to go.

there are some big ass trucks on the road with factory aluminum Ds. desiel btw so torky bastards

[towerymt]

vroom vroom, pssh, pssh, oh what a relief it is?

[blkaplan]

vroom vroom, pssh, pssh, oh what a relief it is?


245 turbo + it sure is a struggle

[MrBill]

mein kampf :lol: