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Mueller
11-28-2005, 06:21 PM
My new soon to be project...a 1978 Volvo 242

Currently has a 2100cc motor producing an amazing 100hp (rated at that amount, I'm sure it's way less by now)

Plans for it???

Install newer powerplant from an '85 240 Turbo model...picked up the engine a few weeks ago, claimed to have 125K miles on it and from looking at the cylinder walls, I believe it, as of now, I don't plan a full rebuild, just clean it up, replace all the gaskets and freshen it up.

Car has a 4 speed that I'd like to replace with a late 80s, early 90s Ford Mustang 5.0 5 speed

It'll get all the wear items replaced in the suspension, new brakes and a redone interior.

Car to be lowered an inch or so and 17" or 18" wheels will find thier way onto the car.

I'm going to need the complete fuel injection (minus the intake manifold) as well as the exhaust manifold and a turbo, so if you have this stuff laying around collecting dust, lets talk....

Budget is $5500 so I got to be careful with the "options"

Long term goal is to build it to be as nice as Dougs 242 (Snoop Dougy Doug) or Dave Bartons awesome white '84 245 Turbo

a few pics...motor in truck bed, red block, cylinder head of B230FT and the car as it sits right now

http://www.914club.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1133215884.jpg
http://www.914club.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1133215897.jpg
http://www.914club.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1133215919.jpg
http://www.914club.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1133215944.jpg

NoSi1212ah
11-28-2005, 06:29 PM
good thing you have the wax on the back bumper :-P

JohnMc
11-28-2005, 07:01 PM
Who's 911 Targa is next to the 242?

Mueller
11-28-2005, 07:16 PM
Who's 911 Targa is next to the 242?

that is my father-in-laws '70 911T, I found that for him a couple of years ago for only $3,000, ....it had some rust that I had to cut out and replace (the drivers side long.)
runs great.....his is only a 2.2, I have 3.6 in mine :badboy:

3liter914-6
11-28-2005, 07:50 PM
runs great.....his is only a 2.2, I have 3.6 in mine :badboy:

Bah...It's still a taildragger. :-P

Mueller
11-28-2005, 08:06 PM
Bah...It's still a taildragger. :-P

I still have the 914....going to start welding the plumbing for the turbo this week...picked up an intercooler on Friday...

Mueller
01-29-2007, 09:46 PM
wow, I cannot believe it took me over a year to finally bring the car to my house....I just brought home the '78 242 yesterday, once I get my 914 (sold) out of the garage, the 242 will be going in there for some work. My original budget has been cut in half which sucks....for the time being, money/time spent will be to get it running and rebuild the suspension..I'm thinking just going with the IPD swaybars and lowering springs and the Bilstien TC shocks, the car will be a commuter so I don't need anything too wild suspension wise...the Koni Yellows are nice, but too much to justify right now.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-87-1170120723.jpg
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Delfosse
01-29-2007, 09:56 PM
cool

ThePOWERtoRULE
01-30-2007, 07:42 PM
It's a start, like mine. :)

Vol242vo
01-31-2007, 02:17 AM
Looks like a great start! I have Bilstien TCs and iPd springs in my '78 and it drives incredibly well! I just got some 25/25 iPd sways so I'll let you know the difference. Can't wait to see the progress.

Jordan
01-31-2007, 02:19 AM
that 964 in the background... how are you driving volvos when you have THAT over there?!

Mueller
01-31-2007, 07:04 PM
Looks like a great start! I have Bilstien TCs and iPd springs in my '78 and it drives incredibly well! I just got some 25/25 iPd sways so I'll let you know the difference. Can't wait to see the progress.

I love the look of your car, that is what I am after.....please let us all know how you like that combo...what size tires??

Fiend,

the 964 is a fun car, I just sold it to my father-in-law, but he keeps it at my house for now so I still get to drive it when I want to :) .....I also just sold my 914 that is in the garage...went from owning two Porsches to none....but I do have 2 Volvos now :-P

Vol242vo
01-31-2007, 09:14 PM
I love the look of your car, that is what I am after.....please let us all know how you like that combo...what size tires??



I'm running 225/40/17 but soon it'll be 225/45/17.

Mueller
02-12-2007, 02:17 AM
Worked on the car this weekend, removed the non-power steering rack to replace it with a power steering rack from an '81 242 GT that my buddy is selling to the CA smog people since it's a gross polluter.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/IMG_8.jpg


Test fitted my new to me 17x8 Mustang rims shod with 245/40/17's...the diameter is within a 1/4" or so of the 14" tires that came on the car....not sure if I'll buy the adapters or make them myself, I have the proper equipment, I just need to price the material and figure out how long it'll take to make them. I usually only have a few hours on the weekends and a few hours thru the week to play in my garage and workshop so I need to maximize my time spent out there...

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/wheel1.jpg

Mueller
02-12-2007, 02:22 AM
The interior of my car is shot, the last 10 years of it's use was as a newspaper delivery vehicle and then they stored old extra papers in it to take to the recyclers....

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/IMG_1.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/IMG_6.jpg

These two bundles of joy is one reason I don't have much time to work on the car, I am not complaining one bit...this was thier 1st Christmas, they where born New Years day '06 !!!

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/IMG_2912.jpg

Mueller
02-12-2007, 02:24 AM
The "new" to me interior, all black (well sorta :) )

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/IMG_3.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/IMG_4.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/IMG_7.jpg

Tom Wiley
02-12-2007, 02:44 AM
nice man, cant wait to see the progression of your car

Mueller
10-15-2007, 08:11 PM
been a while since I've posted anything...I've actually done some work...all suspension bushings replaced with poly, new rubber brake line, new shocks and springs and new fuel sending unit and new fuel pump....I eliminated the 2 pumps and went with one instead.

'78 242 being converted to Megasquirt (car sat for 10 years, wanted a new pump and rubber lines)

The new in-tank pump will replace the pre-pump and the main pump under the car....sourced from a mid '90s Mustang 5.0, but looking at the part numbers, same pump for 4 bangers and V6s and some T-birds.

Depending on the literature, rated to flow at a min. 88lph with some listing showing 110lph...even at the minimum rating, good enough for 250HP which is fine for my application.

I "have" to have a new sending unit, I just broke a few of the wires and figured a new one wouldn't be a bad thing.

If you compare the new pump to the old pre-pump, you can see where I had to cut the tube to plumb attach the new pump (using proper SAE 30R10), easy job with a dremel.

I also silver-soldered a fitting to the outlet to allow me to use 1/4" fuel injection line (SAE 30R9)...1/4" line is supposed to be good for 300hp which is way, way more than my car will see unless I win the lotto :rofl:


http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/fuel20sending20unit2001.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/fuel20sending20unit2002.jpg

Mueller
10-15-2007, 08:14 PM
Took the front struts to my bandsaw to make 'em a few inches shorter, still not sure why I decided to go this route for a DD...sniffing too much glue as a kid, who knows :wtf:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/cutstruts.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/cutstruts01.jpg

I need to order new 2.5" diameter springs, I bought 14" springs that are too long...duh !!!

Vol242vo
10-16-2007, 01:28 AM
Looks like some good progress, I'm in dire need of some coilovers myself. Get some more exteior shots when you get a chance, thanks for the update! Keep it up. '78 242s FTW!

ThePOWERtoRULE
10-16-2007, 02:15 AM
Are those actual Mustang rims with adapters, or 5x108 Cobra R replicas spaced out? I know they make them in the pattern, just curious.

Mueller
10-16-2007, 02:32 AM
Are those actual Mustang rims with adapters, or 5x108 Cobra R replicas spaced out? I know they make them in the pattern, just curious.

Official Ford Motorsport forged rims....with adapters/spacers to fit.

ThePOWERtoRULE
10-16-2007, 02:59 AM
Official Ford Motorsport forged rims....with adapters/spacers to fit.

:wtf:
Noice.

Mueller
11-05-2007, 05:48 AM
killed a few hours day in the shop...instead of working "on" the car and making real progress, I made a few parts that'll never be seen once installed :wtf:

made 4 of these puppies tonight (only need 2 of course, giving a friend the other 2 for his 244)

still need to clean it up some finish the edges to give in a nicer look...I might try out me anodizing kit that I've had for at least a year collecting dust on a shelf to give the spacers some protection and make them look a little nicer...

stylngle2003
11-05-2007, 12:59 PM
sweet. got stuff for the tie rods too? for short struts, you'll probably want 6 or 8" springs and maybe a tender spring too

Volvorules
11-05-2007, 05:37 PM
killed a few hours day in the shop...instead of working "on" the car and making real progress, I made a few parts that'll never be seen once installed :wtf:

made 4 of these puppies tonight (only need 2 of course, giving a friend the other 2 for his 244)

Yeah, you better have tie rod spacers before you put those on. The bumpsteer with the blocks and no tie rod spacers is VERY dangerous. Ask me how I know.... :)

Mueller
07-17-2008, 05:40 PM
time for an update.....

installed LH2.2 instead of the K-Jet.....put about 50 miles on a motor that has sat dormant for over 10 years before loosing all the water out of the radiator, compression test showed 0,0,0 and 30psi.

Pulled the head and wow, surprised the car ever ran....

http://forums.turbobricks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4950&d=1215897866

http://forums.turbobricks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4951&d=1215897866

http://forums.turbobricks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4952&d=1215897866

http://forums.turbobricks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4953&d=1215897866

http://forums.turbobricks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4954&d=1215897866

I have a few motors to chose from in my garage to use, so time to look at them again and pick the best one....

Mueller
07-17-2008, 05:43 PM
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Mueller
07-17-2008, 05:47 PM
the 242 currently has an M45(?) 4 speed with no overdrive....freeway driving at "normal" speeds is spinning the motor more than I would like...so I might as well install a better transmission while I have the motor out...time to take some dimensions and make an adapter plate.....

<strike>'90 Mustang 5.0 application</strike>

still a world class, however it is from a Ford 2.3 Turbo T-Bird, not the best gear ratios, but for an n/a car, not too bad....if they totally suck, I can upgrade to better ratios down the road...

Mueller
09-18-2008, 02:33 PM
US Mail just showed up delievering goodies....

pistons and rods from JVAB, motor is an N/A so I went with flat tops and a 1mm overbore

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/242%20Volvo/pistonandrodongreenmedium.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Mueller_Family/242%20Volvo/cppistonbox.jpg

Steve and his 244
09-18-2008, 03:39 PM
Niiice!! Cant wait to see some progress!

pooprah
09-18-2008, 03:41 PM
woot

Crazychopstick
09-18-2008, 11:07 PM
Needs moar black wheels.

Does the T-5 need to be rebuilt?

Mueller
09-19-2008, 03:18 AM
Needs moar black wheels.

NEVER !!!!! :)

Does the T-5 need to be rebuilt?

The transmission looks to have been rebuilt before (non-factory sealant), however, I already bought a complete kit before taking it apart and might as well freshen it up again.
Gears are in great shape !!!

Mueller
10-26-2009, 03:01 PM
decided to address my lack of limited slip differential.....as per JohnV's recommendation, I sourced a Toyota truck rear end (open diff) and a Toyota Supra center diff assembly.

The Supras come with a nice clutch pack type LSD, this is a true limited slip and should be a lot better than the G80 route.

For the truck rear end, I picked up the wrong one...this one has the 7.5" ring and pinion, I should have picked up the 8" unit, we'll see how this one holds up 1st, I think it'll be fine for my less than 300hp current goals.

The axle is the same width as a 240, 55" mounting surface to mounting surface, drum brakes to be replaced by discs.

stylngle2003
10-26-2009, 03:49 PM
will the stooprah diff fit in the smaller yota rear?

Mueller
10-26-2009, 03:54 PM
will the stooprah diff fit in the smaller yota rear?

not this Supra one, I'll have to get one from a MKII, '82-'85, they called them Celica Supras, the ones with the plastic fender flare extensions....

blkaplan
11-02-2009, 04:34 PM
you got the 8" axle right? any updates on the weight?

Tom Wiley
11-03-2009, 12:37 AM
What are the power goals for this car? 225 to the ground?