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PRVersion
12-20-2005, 02:57 AM
Past:

subject: a 72 142, nasty yellow, B20f (djet) with M40 and 4.1 rear end.

i bought this car in march this year, after falling love with it while piss drunk on new years eve in my friend's garage. i paid $400, and spent the two days immediately following purchase in said garage, drinking heartily while sanding and primering the small, wimpy surface rust and dings.

i also dabbled a bit with bondo for the first time. i realize this is nothing remotely like a solution. however it looks better than the bare-metal alternative from 15 feet. it only had to tide me over while i drove the car for a couple months.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/rainyfront.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/rainyfl.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/rainylr.jpg

while i drove it for the said couple months, i replaced a lot. starting with the left front calliper, which actually stuck two pistons within 5 miles of travel. by some weird miracle i made it from portland to seattle after replacing the caliper, only to literally get off the freeway before the car began a routine of getting about a mile, shorter in traffic, and sputtering to death. after two fuel pumps and filters, cap/rotor/plugs/wires, a general tune up, and a lot of headache i replaced the tank and sender with one from a 73. (incidently, you can run a djet car on an LH pump.)

the exhaust fell off ( :roll: )and took all but the outer shell of the first muffler, so basically now i'm running a downpipe and a resonator. it's louder than the really ungodly loud choppers/harleys. and it sounds like ****. however you can pretty clearly hear the cam/pushrods in the exhaust, which is kinda neat.

the cherry on top/nail on the coffin. the key breaks off in the ignition: twice in two weeks, in fact. time to park it.

Present:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/fb7691d0.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/07395fe6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/6f7344c8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/a9897709.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/a19afa2a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/damageclose.jpg

PRVersion
12-28-2005, 01:06 PM
sorry it took so long to get the pics up, i wasnt about to do it at my rents' place after i realized they are still on 56k.

here's some pics of the progress:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/brody1.jpg
it lives!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/brody2.jpg
i was being sorta gentle, i didnt want to upset the rents TOO much. :-P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/9c456842.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/djet2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/djet1.jpg
ahhhhh yes, real fuel injection. or at least compared to Kjet. why volvo thought this was inferior and needed to be replaced by non-computerized injection is FAR beyond me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/7e945e6e.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/insideback.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/passfloor.jpg
now i see why you guys were bitching about this tar stuff being a slut to get off. i got lucky behind the driver's seat- the peeling paint made it come off easily. the backseat is gonna be tough.

my youngest sister-an aspiring volvo driver:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/bdf753a1.jpg

oh, incidentally here is the caliper that was on the car:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/caliper.jpg
i replaced it with what i think was the same caliper. except i had to drill out the holes for mounting it to the hub. it used the same hardware, so i'm assuming it was the same brand? and it's a girling, right? (is that the better one? i've heard people say one of the old style calipers provides a much better feel than the other, but i dont have anything to compare it to, except the 74, whose brakes are unknown.)

so i didnt get too far, i had a lot of **** to do while i was in oregon. but at least i didnt find anything nastier than surface rust.

more pics next trip down, which should be in about a month.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/sunlight2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/sunlight1.jpg

gsellstr
12-28-2005, 01:45 PM
Nice. Good thing you're starting pic's at the beginning of the process as I didn't. BTW, yes, that's a Girling caliper. The big 'G' is the DEAD giveaway. The Girlings are a much smoother, less grabby, non-squealing caliper compared with the ATE's.

Look forward to more pic's!

BTW, hopefully I'll get to that parts list for ya tonight.

PRVersion
12-28-2005, 04:25 PM
hah! i didnt even notice that was a G, what a jackass :-P

oh and plans:

body: trade doors for early 242 doors, that way i cant pinch the sheet metal against tht front fender. and i get to ditch the stupid wing windows. flat black in the recessed part of the ass, and around the headlight buckets, with black mesh grille. burnt construction orange and possibly black stripes ala 69 boss mustang. all red/white rear lights, eliminate bumpers.

interior:

full cage, full strip, stitch welded, two race seats, and a hunk of aluminum for a dash just big enough for guages/any switches for lights/whatever. lexan windows except for front and doors. (i do not own a truck and i will not buy one, i will have to drive it to god-knows where for races.)

maybe a radio and like some 5.25" in the front. something easily removable for races if i so desire.

engine: (let the benchracing begin!)

stage 1: gut bay, add MS+S, rewire accordingly. engine #1 will be rebuilt with 1 overbore, hotter (than F) cam, mild headwork. three core nissen radiator should be plenty, oil cooler. T5 tranny with 4.88 posi rear and aluminum driveline. goal: 140-150 at the wheels.

stage 2: b20 with forged aftermarket flat-top ford 4.6GT pistons, aftermarket rods, offset ground crank, looking for the vicinity of 2.2 to 2.4L. major headwork, titanium valves, either 50/40 or 49/41 with 3 (5?) angle job. aftermarket radiator. custom intercooler. HX35 holset, hopefully 20-25psi. double valve springs. teflon crank scraper. VM performance custom cam. carbon-fiber driveline.

goal: 300 to the wheels.

suspension: unknown shocks so far. probably something adjustable, i may try to convert to coilovers in the rear. adjustable rear swaybar, ipd front (that or i know a guy with a 1-1/8" if that's not enough), custom springs. i dont know much about how to set up a proper rallye suspension, so i've got some reading to do on that part.

exhaust:

stage 1: skandix or vm performace (or maybe homebrewed) tri-y header, 2.5" mandrel bent.

stage 2: well, a lot of the holsets i've been looking at have a 4" dump. so custom equal length header and *gasp* 4" madrel bent side dump.

gsellstr
12-28-2005, 05:05 PM
Quite the plan for stage 2!!! BTW, IPD used to sell their BIG Big bore kit with 93mm pistons (B21, 1 OS) for a 2.2L. You seem to have forgotten the lightened flywheel in there as well and the ITB's, ANY exhaust plans, the roller rockers (for stage 2), steel or alum. gearset (yeah yeah, pic's tonight if I can), etc. Run an 86mm crank, 93mm pistons and you'd be closing on that 2.4/2.5L goal. 8.5:1CR 2.5L @ 15psi should be a BLAST!!!

Ok, I gotta get away from the benchracing/dreaming and do work for the firm.

BTW, I've ALWAYS loved that burnt orange Volvo had. My dad's 73 144 was in that color with a black interior. I wanted that car for a while, but it got sold.

PRVersion
12-28-2005, 06:36 PM
well met, but the ipd big bore kit is still a 30+ year old piston design. my setup will have a MUCH smaller, lighter piston, hell the compression height is only ~31mm. so it will be small-end steered.

and yes, you're right. steel/aluminum gearset, roller rockers would be rad. the pistons are 91mm if i use the factory 4.6 diameter. overbores are .030 and .045 iirc. and lightened flywheel is a must, although i'm not entirely convinced i want to go aluminum. yes, it's light, but if i go to a 4 or 6-puck clutch disc i may want a bit more weight to make modulating it a bit easier. especially since i will have to drive it on the street a little.

the big question is where do i get an 86mm crank for the B20? that would be awesome, but i didnt even know one was out there...

and see above, i've added exhaust.

gsellstr
12-28-2005, 06:53 PM
I heard rumors a while back of an 86mm Penta B20 crank but all my research has led to nothing other than the normal 80mm. As for piston diameter, I was simply pointing out that diameter should be very reasonable to attain. I KNOW most of the normal stuff available for these motors is old tech, aside from VP's stuff. I'd probably go light but not alum. on the flywheel as well. 17lbs is nice, dunno what 7 would be like, let alone with a 4 or 6-puck. Might look into the other style (name is escaping me right now) clutches that VP sells. MUGH lighter than stock. Might work with the alum. flywheel. You are now though just making me want to build the B20 I've always wanted as well. Much more info out there as well as in my mind than when mine was done. Now to find the cash...

Lemme know before you drop an order with Skandix. I have 'connections'. :)

/end benchracing in this post

koenvbr
12-30-2005, 01:01 PM
Cool sleeper car the way it looks now and nice plans on your stage 2 engine. A 140 with a turboed B20 isn't a thing you see every day. Ever thought of swapping the front calipers and vented discs of a 164 on it? Good luck with it!

PRVersion
12-30-2005, 04:04 PM
Cool sleeper car the way it looks now and nice plans on your stage 2 engine. A 140 with a turboed B20 isn't a thing you see every day. Ever thought of swapping the front calipers and vented discs of a 164 on it? Good luck with it!

yeah, and i will most likely be there by the time i'm racing on stage 1.

however i'm not entirely confident they will be ample for stage 2. 300+horse is pretty serious, and by then i may have to do what you're doing and go try and retrofit S60R brakes.

Super1800GTR
01-01-2006, 02:14 AM
I like the camo look... Good choice on keeping the b20. If I didn't have a good b23f+t available for my 142 I'd go for the b20. Actually, I'll probably throw the b20 I'm having built for my 1800 in the 140 to break it in. If you're patient John Parker will build one good enough for 250 hp capable (2.0 version) or 300+ hp (2.5 version). I'm going with the 2.0 for now because I don't have the $2k extra to upgrade to the 2.5. You can allways rebuild using b21ft pistons, M rods, and port an F cylinender head.

Good luck
Rob

PRVersion
01-02-2006, 01:58 PM
If you're patient John Parker will build one good enough for 250 hp capable (2.0 version) or 300+ hp (2.5 version).

there's a fair number of engine options available that all pump out some solid, proven power.

however i'm feeling bold; i'm breaking new ground on this motor, and i am certain it WILL kick ass; i know i could use volvo parts and still end up with a nice strong engine. but if i do it my way i lose at least a pound of rotating assembly per hole, and i'm stepping up the design philosophy by 25 years or so.

it'll be good, trust me. :cool:

swedishiron.com
01-02-2006, 11:56 PM
oh and plans:

body: trade doors for early 242 doors, that way i cant pinch the sheet metal against tht front fender. and i get to ditch the stupid wing windows.

I have a set of early 242 doors that were removed from a '76 or '77 242. PM me if you're interested.
JD

PRVersion
01-20-2006, 03:18 AM
so here's where i'm at right now on the manifold; the prototype is for greenteagod, so i get to work the bugs out on his haha. on mine i will probably make the head flanges out of billet, and my intake will be flipped around to face the throttle body forward.

i'm not sure what this one is but if i use a passat TB i think i had the TPS i'll need for megasquirt; if not i think it would be 1000x easier to swap to the right one on this than the factory tb.

ok ok enough, now for the pix:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/flange4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/flange5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/flange7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/flanges.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/intake1.jpg
after removing the logo, it will have a finned block welded to it and have the 71-72 style "volvo fuel injection" logo, per jonny's instruction.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/intake2.jpg

with TB attached. mine will be probably be all custom with the tb pointing forward.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/throttlebody.jpg
yeah, tell me this isnt better than the regular style :roll:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/intake_p1.gif
it will fit up something like this, with the yellow being the valve cover and blue the head.

PRVersion
01-23-2006, 11:22 PM
I like the camo look...

it wasnt meant to look like camo, that's just how much bad paint there was/is :(

PRVersion
02-06-2006, 02:53 AM
picked up this trunk for cheap a while back, and promptly forgot about it.

it was left outside, and suffered a bit for it.

is she still worth saving? she's straight as an arrow otherwise, and this is by far the worst of it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/d72cb50e.jpg

*pics removed for unnecessary carnage*

ok, trunk lid goes bye-bye. maybe i'll try to get one in oregon while i'm there, it'll make things easier than a three hour drive with a trunk lid hanging out of my trunk.

hudson
02-06-2006, 03:31 AM
Do what you will with the trunk. They are however not hard to find and if left on the car generally don't rust at all.

PRVersion
02-25-2006, 01:06 AM
hmmm. so now that the two Johns have talked me out of rallying this car (it's true; i'd never forgive myself if i wrapped it around a tree/rock/whatever).

so now what? i like my stage two engine mod list, or something similar to it. however it would be well outside the regs for most conesquashing i'm aware of.

ideas? :???: suggestions? i kinda want to make it semi-streetable so i can hit the streets with it on nice summer days...

reeferman
02-25-2006, 01:25 AM
for some reson i love your car

http://www.ovtuners.org/gallery/ClubRacecar

Poik
02-25-2006, 01:41 AM
Hey in the first pictures your car looks like a banana that is going bad. Just thought I'd let you know. Cool project ;-)

PRVersion
02-27-2006, 03:40 AM
for some reson i love your car

http://www.ovtuners.org/gallery/ClubRacecar

yup, i've seen that many a time. online that is.

i'm not keeping the yellow tho, it's not loud enough. i'm thinking 69 boss mustang orange.

reeferman
02-27-2006, 01:03 PM
where are you located ive got tons of parts and got a link to a guy that makes racing parts just for 140s. what about chev SS orange with white stripes

JE Jr
02-27-2006, 01:55 PM
Nice car, but I think you shouldn't change from that superb colour!!

I love the fan shroud you have. If you remove it, think of me then!!! I could probably find some nice parts for you in Sweden to make a trade.

Do you have tinted windows?
Which colour? Green or brownish?

Can you take a close-up picture of the front fender emblems?

I have just such a car, look at the yllow one in my signature!

PRVersion
02-27-2006, 03:50 PM
sure thing man, i'll get you a good pic of the emblems. i wont be using them. i also probably wont need the fan shroud when i go to an E-fan, so i'm sure we can work something out :)

honestly i'm not sure about the tint. if there is any i think it's a little greenish.

JE Jr
02-27-2006, 06:17 PM
Yea! Would be great!!

Just start thinking of if there's something you need from Sweden!

RedFridge
02-27-2006, 06:33 PM
Doh...just realized you were going to gut it and cage it.
Nevermind the link to that pristine interior I just sent ya.

Diggin the car!

PRVersion
08-07-2006, 12:42 AM
well i made some progress on 'er lately, but i forgot my camera today. i'll have to add pics tomorrow.

interior is out, so is some of the tar paper. damn i need some dry ice.

she's loud these days. when beat in the field there are some pretty wack noises from the right front; the shocks are toast, as are the bushings.

i also find i can hear things happening in the tranny when shifted agressively on the street. not bad things, just a nice little *snick* when it finds the next gear. amazing what some tar and padding can do, eh? the M40/1 has a nicer feel than the m45/6, oddly enough. the throw is a little longer, but not enough to really notice much.

the weight reduction is already fairly noticable from the driver's seat. she slides cleanly, but wheelspin hasn't increased like i feared it would. god i've missed the b20 sound!

pics tomorrow! :-D

PRVersion
08-07-2006, 07:30 PM
ok so i forgot my camera last night. pics will come tomorrow.

engine plans have changed slightly.

i aquired a nice big bar and plate intercooler (24x12x3" core), an 84/48 t25, F cam, and some other goodies.

the only difference between stage one and two will be the engine management, and size of the turbo.

valve sizes might not be as aggressive as i originally intended.

as it stands now, i'm happy with the level of power for the time being. not enough to get me into trouble (with the law, that is), but enough that i don't hate life behind the wheel.

now to figure out how to make the vw seats fit. stay tuned.

PRVersion
08-11-2006, 09:15 PM
ok i didn't get pics of the inside, but face it, we've all seen in inside of a stripped 240, it looks basically the same.

but i got some pics of the beast in motion...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/d76e5f30.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/c9b9b83b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/e368e1e4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/820c44f2.jpg

field beater ftw.

hopefully i haven't broken anything haha.

here's a sound clip. for those who don't want to read the whole thing, the exhaust fell off at the back of the front muffler, and it took the guts with it. so it's basically just a straight pipe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/th_884e1393.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/?action=view&current=884e1393.flv)

you ohc guys jealous? :-P :badboy:

oh, and the intercooler.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/82a310b2.jpg
mmm nice welds...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/313b236b.jpg

hudson
08-11-2006, 09:34 PM
It's looking like you're having some fun there! Intercooler looks good. I'd like to lay dimes like that.

Take it apart already!

PRVersion
08-11-2006, 09:52 PM
as much as i'd like to take it apart, i have to keep it capable of moving under its own power as much as possible since it's at my parents' place.

i just missed out on a free b20, which i'm severely bummed about. because as soon as i find one the real fun begins...

PRVersion
08-14-2006, 02:49 AM
this just in:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/starseed1066/d80795cd.jpg

rescued only an hour ago from a barn :badboy:

i got a free b20 after all.

unfortunately, this means i have to get off my ass and quit benchracing. :-P

PRVersion
12-10-2006, 05:19 PM
so the engine in the above pic gave up some weird secrets when opened up.

it also had three different kinds of pistons in it :roll:

looks like #1 rod let go and tried to come thru the side, but failed. looks like they jbwelded over the cracking, and ran it that way afterwards. i'll probably just grind it flush and braze it up, then flush it again.

two of the 6 flywheel bolts snapped the head off with almost no force.

ugh.

i also purchased a 71 rolling shell in pretty nice shape, seems like i'd be a fool to keep going on this body. so i'm not sure what i'm going to be doing with it. parts car, i guess.

the 71 gets delivered christmas eve, i'll post new pics then. same plan, only i'll use the old dash body and just repanel it. i'll likely remove the tar paper and sound deadening, but leave the carpet.

v-speed
12-11-2006, 04:29 AM
kool.
142's are the go.
so i take it you are like me and turbocharging the B20.
Nothing like a old skool engine.

PRVersion
12-12-2006, 02:42 AM
turbo is the plan, first up is a 63/48 t25. check your pm's good sir.

Chrisco
12-16-2006, 02:31 AM
sweet project. wish there were more 142s on the board.

v-speed
12-16-2006, 06:57 AM
so do i.
early 142s are my fav volvo.

Fuller
02-15-2008, 11:01 PM
Bump for this guys for sale thread.

PRVersion
02-16-2008, 04:33 AM
thanks! :-D