Rob Prince's 242 Resurrection

[Volvorules]

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Purchased the car in 2000 from my boss at the shop where I worked. At the time it was powered by a 2.2L B21(?) with forged Arias flat top pistons, custom ported cylinder head with larger valves, dual Weber 45DCOEs, and a Stahl header. It came with a set of 17" Volvo Titan wheels. Suspension was decent, cut springs all around with custom revalved bilstein shocks. It also had IPD sway bars, 25mm front and rear. The car was also equipped
with a Dana clutch-type limited slip differential. It handled well, made decent power, and was quick enough to be fun. In 2002 it was dynoed on a Mustang Dyno at 136hp and 148lb-ft with a broken accelerator spring in the front carburetor. Pretty decent, but I was expecting more.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/Carlisle_2004.jpg

I used the car for a few years for autocrossing and driving on the street occasionally. It sat around a lot, as it would not pass state inspection with the carbs, nor could I afford the insurance at the time. Then in the summer of 2003, I heard about a drift event at a local track, Summit Point Raceway in West Virginia. I decided to register for it and see what I could do. I did pretty well at the event, for having close to the least amount of horsepower. The track was too large for the car with its current power level. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/turn_five_inside.jpg
The next drift event was a practice held in a parking lot outside of Richmond, VA. This was November of 2003. I went to this event and did a little better, with the car being more suited to the smaller venue.

In 2004 I participated in a few events with the car, now making a bit less power due to a bottom end swap. The lack of air filters on the air horns caused the cylinder walls to wear, so the rings no longer sealed very well.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/turn_5_smoky.jpg
At an event at Old Dominion Speedway in Manassas, VA, I came off the banking on one turn and lost control into a tire wall. The car fared well, of course, with some left front fender damage and a broken headlight surround.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/whatdent.jpg
So we pulled the fender out and I got back out on course.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/banksmoke.jpg

I drove the car at Summit Point for the second year in a row, and did a little bit better with more experience under my belt. I made it into the final group of 8 cars, and then to 4, where the bottom end gave up. Must have spun a rod bearing, but I didn't ever investigate fully. So that was the end of that engine.

The car was also my daily driver at that point, as my turbo engine swap in my 262 Bertone had taken quite a bit more time than expected. So now I was without a running vehicle to get to and from work. Fortunately I could borrow a 242GT from my roommate (Chris, 242GTMD) and use that for a week. But it was crunch time on the Bertone. I spent quite a bit of time that week working on getting the Megasquirt in the Berturbo operational, and finally, on Saturday, I got to drive it around for the first time. So now that the Berturbo was up and running, the blue car took a rest on my trailer, where it lived for a few months.

In December of 2004, I decided it was time to build the blue car as my drift car, instead of doubling up with the Berturbo as my daily driver/drift machine. This was a good idea, I believe, but also took quite some time to come to fruition. I spoke with a friend about doing a rollcage for it, and he said it would be no problem. I began working on the car, stripping the interior and getting as much crap out of it as I could. I trailered it up to Hagerstown,
MD, where Travis of SVR would be putting the roll cage in. I didn't expect this to take as long as it did, but more on that later.

The first drift practice event of 2005 came on January 15th, at Virginia Motorsports Park, also outside of Richmond, VA. It was at this event that my Berturbo would run for the last time. I had an issue with the Megasquirt, which rendered the car dead. I towed it home, and worked on it for the next week or so, while driving the aforementioned 242GT. It turns out that at some point while driving the car, one of the valve springs had broken. I got the
megasquirt hooked up and ready to go, and was trying to start the car. All of a sudden, it stopped cranking. After a few more attempts, I knew something was up. I decided to pull the cylinder head and see what was up. What I found was ugly: the broken valve spring, broken valve, and a nice hole in the block. This was the end of the Berturbo.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/brokenvalve2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/houstonwehaveaproblem.jpg

Back to the 242. After dropping it off with Travis of SVR, I got to work on ordering parts. I collected quite a bit of stuff, including a Mustang T5 trans, with bellhousing adapter from vperformance. I got a clutch from clutchnet.com to fit the swap. I also picked up a Proturbo manifold from the group buy organized by Dave Barton. My biggest purchase was a Garrett GT2871R turbo from ATP Turbo, dual ball bearing with the upgraded 4" compressor inlet. This thing is a monster, and seemed like the best of the GT series to fit my engine and performance needs. Spool should be decent with the ball bearings and the Proturbo manifold, and peak power should be excellent. While I was busy collecting parts, the roll cage production was moving along very slowly.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/hoop.jpg
It obviously takes a long time to build a roll cage, and this one was no exception. While building the cage, he was also making the downpipe and exhaust, as well as welding up the piping for the Tial 38mm external wastegate.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/turbo_top_view.jpg
A lot of work had to be done.

[Volvorules]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/bluecarhome.jpg

I finally picked the car up from Travis on Dec. 3rd, 2005. I was excited to get it back and start finishing the car up. First on the adgenda was supposed to be body work. But I soon heard of the first drift practice event, which was to be held on Feb. 18th at VIR. The goal was changed from getting body work done first, to working on the mechanicals. The engine and transmission came out, and were parted out. The engine bay was cleaned up and painted, and in went the B230FT.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/enginewturbo.jpg

This engine was a 94 L block, with the desireable piston oil squirters. I changed nothing with the bottom end, except for a custom oil pan built by Mike Perry. The cylinder head was a 530 casting, with port and polish work done by myself, and stock valves, but using comp cams springs for the extended higher-rpm use this engine was to see. I found an IPD turbo cam on ebay, and tossed that in as well. The intake manifold was port matched,
and it had custom intercooler piping built by Travis as well, used to fit the generic ebay intercooler.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/intercooler.jpg
Everything was coming together nicely.

As for suspension, I used the IPD bars that were already on the car, but switched just about everything else. Michael Towery helped me swap the rear axle, to a welded differential that I picked up from Mike Perry. I installed 325-lb rear stock car springs, with adjustable perches from stockcarproducts.com. I used the revalved bilsteins that were on the car already in the rear. For the front, I had picked up a set of ITB-spec struts from Tom Smith. These were shortened tubes, with Koni double-adjustable inserts. I also got a set of GroupA style camber plates, also from Tom. I grabbed the SAM strut tower brace which had been on my Bertone, and after performing the alignment, was ready to roll.

I had planned on running Megasquirt on this engine from the get-go, and then once fuel maps were tuned fairly well, the plan was to switch to MSnS-extra. But that plan changed when, after hooking up my MS box, I got no spark from the coil. Somehow something had been damaged in the MS box, and it was grounding out that circuit. So I switched to MSnS-extra. After a week of attempting to get it started, with help from Ben and Lawrence, we figured out that the MSnS box that I had was damaged too. It was continuously firing injectors as soon as the key was turned on. This obviously created some problems, like a crankcase full of fuel! So after this was figured out, Lawrence let me borrow his MSnS box, and the car started soon after installing that box. A little tuning and I was able to drive it around a bit. Then Chris and I headed out on the highway to do some pulls and more tuning.

The tuning went well, and the car was easily driveable. I drove it to and from work for a few days, to try and help break in the clutch, and do a little bit of tuning at the same time. We were now less than 2 weeks away from the drift practice event. It was definetely fun to drive, and the turbo did spool very quickly. Using the spring that came in the Tial wastegate, I was running just under 10psi of boost. It felt very quick, and full boost was acheived just under 3000 rpms. I was very pleased. After a week of driving like this, I upped the boost to 15 psi, and Chris and I went out for some more tuning runs. Fortunately, I had guesstimated the map on the rich side, so it was safe at that boost level, with no pinging. As we adjusted the maps and watched the air/fuel ratio move from 10:1 towards 12:1, the car got faster and faster. We were both amazed at the difference that 2 points of AFR could make. After settling on a safe tune, I felt the car was ready for the track. I installed the 2 sparco seats, and both harnesses, and cleaned up some of the wiring mess. On the Thursday before the event, I loaded the car on my trailer, and was ready to go!

The event started on a Saturday morning, but I had the day off work on Friday. Chris, Michael and I left around 12:30 from our place, and headed down to VIR. The drive took about 4 and a half hours, and we made it with no issues. Checked into the hotel, and hung out. Saturday we got up early and headed to the track. Got the registration and tech inspection finished, and waited for my turn on course. It was quite cold, and there were snow showers expected at some point during the day. Fortunately, our first session on track was dry. The car did well, as I took my time getting up to speed, to learn both the car and the course layout. I had the boost turned back to 10psi for Saturday. It seemed good, but I couldn't wait to turn it up. The second session of the day was done with snow flurries falling, and a very wet track. So it was basically just an attempt at not spinning. But it was still a lot of fun.

Sunday morning was dry, and I was very excited to see how the day went. I started in the morning with the boost set at 10psi still, and became much more familiar with the track. After lunch, I cranked the boost to 15, and that's when the real fun started. After a switch to a different set of rear tires, and with the boost level raised, the car was a monster. I could hold much more angle, and actually started to see some smoke off the rear tires. It gave me a lot of confidence in the car, and made me anxious to turn the boost even higher. I did have a few issues with loose turbo mounting hardware, which caused some melted paint and a cooked upper timing cover, but other than that, the car ran very well. I was pleased with the results.

Now the car is apart, waiting for a new turbo to manifold gasket. After it gets put back together this week, I will be installing the R brakes on the front, and then my new wheels. As soon as everything gets mounted up, I will be sure to post pics of them. Of course, the car will still not be complete, as I am still working on the body work, and getting ready for paint. That is quite an ordeal, of course. Some day it will be complete though, I promise.

Future plans for the car include a built bottom end, to support 20 to 25psi of boost, and of course more tuning of the MSnS. I have to get on a dyno at some time in the near future, to get the timing map sorted out better. Of course the paint still needs to be done, which should come at some point in March or April. And then I will just work on driving the car and having a good time while drifting, and the occasional trip down the 1/4 mile.

[blkaplan]

This car is far from finished and is gonna have a lot more custom goodies,

[TerribleOne]

Excellent writeup. I feel bad for wanting to junk my 240.

[jpbturbo]

I'm so happy to see this.

[mAydAy]

The car is a BEAST. I rode in it on Saturday at low boost, and its NUUTS. It helps that Rob is a pretty damn good driver.

I've got the old 2.2l B21, and its just ring wear not cylinder wall luckily.


Watch Rob this year, He'll go far drifting. I think that Formula D is quite a possibility for next year.

[Inc3pt]

Love this car...Ill be watching the thread :-D *droool*

[Hank Scorpio]

Its about time!

I love love LOVE it.

now show off those sexy wheels!

[Crazychopstick]

Incredible! I've always been a big fan of that 242.

Can't wait to see the progress.

[Tenacious Todd]

Rob if thats the L block I sold you its from a 93..

[mAydAy]

Oh man wait til yall see the wheels......

[Volvorules]

Ok, wheel shots :) I can't hold back any longer.

They won't go on until I get the R brakes on the front, which should be this week...installed pics later.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/bling.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/wheelside.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/wheelrear.jpg

[towerymt]

It's finally done!!!!!!!!!!! Almost.

[Crazychopstick]

WHOA! What kind of wheels are those?

Oh and are you painting the car white?

[Homer]

Mmmmm awesome job, Rob.
Are those Fikse?

[Volvorules]

Haha, no, no white, no pink. The car will be painted dark blue, hopefully much like what it used to be.

As for the wheels, they are custom made Kodaik Racing Wheels. www.kodiakracingwheels.com , go figure.

Anyway, fronts (not shown) are 17X8", et 3, weigh 18lbs each. Rears are 17X9.5", et 0, weigh 17lbs each. Weight difference due to thick hub flange on the fronts, in order to clear the future R brakes.

[Dmitry S.]

Holy crap those wheels are awesome. How much did they run you?

[oldschoolvolvo]

very cool project! gold wheels...good choice :)

[stylngle2003]

great to finally see pics, rob...the car looked nice on saturday when i was down there

[DavoS40]

Beautiful, can't wait to see it painted with those wheels.

[Zora]

Have you any vids your drifting?
Great award your engine select!

[JW240]

wow, awseome project! :urgod:
very nice

[yorkbrick]

way to go NOVA crew

[blkaplan]

way to go NOVA crew


NOVA For teh lose! MD for teh WIN

[Geoff240Ti]

Finally glad to read the more "complete" story on your car! I am REALLY happy to see that turbo working so good for you :)

[olov]

wow, i totally missed this thread

that car's gonna be the ****. good luck pimping it out before SE so we can all ruin the paint with drool

[shaved240]

whats up with the rear quarter panel?

[djecko]

Rob this car has been an inspiration to me since the begining. Keep up the good work. i want a ride in that beast one day.

[Super1800GTR]

Deep dish gold wheels FTW! What's the specs on tires?

Rob

[Stereophile33]

what all did you have to cut to get 17x9.5's and 17x8's to fit?

Jonathan

[stray]

wow, so this is what you had in mind. :omg:

hot. waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy hot.

[BabyBlue242]

what did those wheels cost you?

[seth]

Yeah who makes those rims? Those are insane. :love:

[Volvorules]

The wheels cost roughly $500 a piece, after anondizing and shipping, etc. I bought six, 2 front and 4 rears. Not cheap, but definetly built solidly, and nice and light.

They're made by Kodiak Racing, as stated earlier in the thread. www.kodiakracingwheels.com

And the LR quarter was full of bondo, so I cut it off at the trim line and welded another one on. I'm not very good at welding, and didn't prime it yet, so it looks like hell. Body work is coming, I promise :)

I had to do a ton of work to fit the 9.5" wheels. The rear quarters took quite a beating. But it looks good, and will look awesome after the paint gets done. The low rear shot is just crazy, because they stick out so far and have nice meats on them.

For tires, I will use 225/45 17 Falken Azenis RT-615s in the front, and will try both 255/40 17 Falken ST-115s and some 235/45 17 Dunlops I have. Not sure if the current power level will allow easy drifting on the 255s. I will have them mounted for the next event, which is coming up on the 11th of March. So stay tuned :)

After that it will get the serious body work done and then off to paint.

Thanks for all the compliments everyone!

[Jordan]

i have that same intercooler! "Mishimoto GY30" right? hahaha!

[klr142]

For tires, I will use 225/45 17 Falken Azenis RT-615s in the front, and will try both 255/40 17 Falken ST-115s and some 235/45 17 Dunlops I have. Not sure if the current power level will allow easy drifting on the 255s. I will have them mounted for the next event, which is coming up on the 11th of March. So stay tuned :)

After that it will get the serious body work done and then off to paint.

Thanks for all the compliments everyone!
Sweeeeet!!! I was just looking at the Kodiak website a couple weeks ago, but left with the conclusion that I didn't think any of their wheels would be a good match for something that's a daily driver... Granted, I don't think your car really counts for a daily driver, but the wheels look good enough to sure as hell be put on one!!! Looks great man! I think I have changed my mind on Kodiak wheels for street/track use now, even on a daily driver...

[towerymt]

Video from the first event this year. VIR Patriot course.

Start:

Middle: can't see from the pits

End:

[77240dl]

do ya drive it back anf forth from the track???

[Super1800GTR]

Very nice. I'm eagerly awaiting pics and info on how you finnished fitting the 255s. I can't figure out the BEST way to pull the front half of the rear fender out & brace the outer skin.

Rob

[Volvorules]

Well, to fit the 255s took quite a bit of work. What I did was drill out all of the spot welds around the fender lip. Then I separated the outer quarter panel from the inner part. I cut the edge off of the inner, where it comes down and bends back in towards the car. I then used a porta-power to push the inner part out, which in turn pushed the quarter panel itself out. Once I had it out far enough, I folded the quarter panel lip up over the inner panel, and welded it up. I will try and get some pictures this week of the work I've done.

Finally got the R brakes on the front on Friday as well, so I will get pics of that too.

[foggyjames]

Now I'm rather confused...I was under the impression that the breathed on B21 NA was making big power, and ran a seriously quick 1/4 time (for an NA redblock in the US)....like a 14 or something. According to what you've written there (and assuming a figure quoted at the crank), it's making less power than mine :omg: If it did run a 14 with that power, I REALLY need to get a shorter diff and a lightened flywheel in mine and go run something that isn't a 17...

Awesome project. That car is lusted over on both sides of the atlantic. Just the other week someone posted a pic of it on V3M. Be sure to keep us posted :)

cheers

James

[Crazychopstick]

Now I'm rather confused...I was under the impression that the breathed on B21 NA was making big power, and ran a seriously quick 1/4 time (for an NA redblock in the US)....like a 14 or something. According to what you've written there (and assuming a figure quoted at the crank), it's making less power than mine :omg: If it did run a 14 with that power, I REALLY need to get a shorter diff and a lightened flywheel in mine and go run something that isn't a 17...

Awesome project. That car is lusted over on both sides of the atlantic. Just the other week someone posted a pic of it on V3M. Be sure to keep us posted :)

cheers

James

I think his original setup included some nitrous. I think.

[foggyjames]

That's what I thought. Presumably that power pull was with the giggle-gas off, and the 1/4 time was with it on.

cheers

James

[242GTMD]

The 136 was wheel horsepower, and the fastest 1/4 was 15.7 @ 85 or so. The car never ran the 1/4 in the 14s or on nitrous.

[mAydAy]

The dyno reading was off also, the carbs were messed up.

The nitrous was never run at the track. And actually, Rob never really used the nitrous himself I don't think.

[towerymt]

Dyno was just days after a major reassembly, so the tuning and preperation was not quite there. A carb issue also led to what occurred during the runs, as seen below...

136/148 was pretty good considering...but I think we had all expected ~180whp.

Yes, it was loud.
http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/blue_car_dyno1.jpg

But it sounded oh so good.
http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/blue_car_dyno4.jpg

Hmm, sparks from the side pipe on decel at 6500rpm?
http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/blue_car_dyno5.jpg

http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/blue_car_dyno6.jpg

[foggyjames]

Nice work! I was going to ask what RPM it made it at. I'm aiming for upwards of 150 crank with minimal extra work (exhaust, efan, maybe stronger ignition).

cheers

James

[Super1800GTR]

Well, to fit the 255s took quite a bit of work. What I did was drill out all of the spot welds around the fender lip. Then I separated the outer quarter panel from the inner part. I cut the edge off of the inner, where it comes down and bends back in towards the car. I then used a porta-power to push the inner part out, which in turn pushed the quarter panel itself out. Once I had it out far enough, I folded the quarter panel lip up over the inner panel, and welded it up. I will try and get some pictures this week of the work I've done.

Finally got the R brakes on the front on Friday as well, so I will get pics of that too.

That's what I was thinking of doing. Mine will need to come out about another 1/4 of an inch because I have 10"ers :). With the panels separated is there any risk of the chassis flexing or getting out of shape? Cant wait for pics..

Rob

[BDKR]

Late to the love fest as usual.

Absolutely awesome ride! I sware 240's rule!

:urgod:

[MikeHardy]

what happened to the carb setup rob :badboy:

[Volvorules]

what happened to the carb setup rob :badboy:

I sold the carbs, kept the manifolds though. I've got a set of ITBs that will bolt right on, dunno if I'll use them in a future turbo setup, or NA.

I do miss those carbs though, the sound and throttle response were just amazing!

[foggyjames]

Mike - I know a man who wants rid of a set of 8v manifolds for DCOE-pattern sidedrafts...

cheers

James

[nickgreen]

Rob, the car is looking super evil... love the wheel offsets and body work you've done! I'd also be interested in seeing a few pics of the work you did inside those rear quarters...

[towerymt]

Rob, the car is looking super evil... love the wheel offsets and body work you've done! I'd also be interested in seeing a few pics of the work you did inside those rear quarters...
I've started dumping my photos of the car to this gallery...

off dana's home server (http://71.126.181.53:5555/gallery2/v/towerymt/blue/)

From the inner panel, remove the fender lip. Push the panels out, fold the lip from the outer panel flat over the inner, weld in place. The rear portion of the quarter (behind the wheel) was pushed out using a 240 scissor/screw jack and blocks of wood. Once the panel is seperated along the bottom at the spare tire well, the jack can be used to push it out. Then weld a support rod in place to hold it, and fill in the gaps.

http://71.246.201.95:5555/gallery2/d/23603-1/PICT0828.jpg

This is looking up at the left rear panel. The left side of the frame shows a silver colored piece of scrap metal used to brace the panel at the desired width. Rob got a little carried away with the cutting tools and removed more than necessary from the inner panel (large hole leading into the trunk). Ideally, you'd continue cutting away the inner panel where it meets the roof of the wheel well, push it out flush with the outer panel, and weld in a piece to close the roof. Thus giving a square opening 12-13" wide for insanely low ride heights (tucking wheel with no rub, if you like).

Credit goes to Tom Smith for first explaining this to me back on the old Turbobricks EZboard forums. It's taken me that long to get wheels/tires large enough to need to do this to my own car. By the summer I'll be sporting bigger wheels/tires than Rob. :D

[nickgreen]

Thanks towery! Very helpful info... I guess 10s are doable then! Damn I wish I wasn't 3000 miles from my 245 right now!

[Zora]

ohh, the link doesn't work :-(

Have you any more vids your drift?

[towerymt]

ohh, the link doesn't work :-(

Have you any more vids your drift?
http://71.246.231.16:5555/gallery2/v/towerymt/blue/

The IP changed...fixed it.

[Crazychopstick]

So, I was wondering about the hood. Is it a Gemini peice or custom?

[Volvorules]

It's a Gemini hood...got damaged in shipping, but I threw it on there anyway. The new one should be coming soon... :)

It's in ugly mode now, took off the wheels so I can do bodywork and paint. The rear quarters look hilarious with 195s in the back!!

[Crazychopstick]

It's a Gemini hood...got damaged in shipping, but I threw it on there anyway. The new one should be coming soon... :)

It's in ugly mode now, took off the wheels so I can do bodywork and paint. The rear quarters look hilarious with 195s in the back!!

I know what you mean. I think my 185s on the back looks pretty funny and my quarters aren't even pushed out.

[shaved240]

did you straight up weld on the rear main panel? If you straight up welded without doing spotwelds it will warp the metal pretty badly

[towerymt]

did you straight up weld on the rear main panel? If you straight up welded without doing spotwelds it will warp the metal pretty badly
What's a "rear main panel"? The quarter panel lower half on the drivers side was tacked on, then welded. I haven't noticed any warping.

[badvlvo]

Lookin pretty good. That's gonna be a sexy car when it's done.

[Bigbegum69]

more pictures pleaaaaaaaaaseeee

[Mblesso]

don't ever paint that car, it is perfect the way it is!
it has a great Rat Rod feel to it.

[blkaplan]

don't ever paint that car, it is perfect the way it is!
it has a great Rat Rod feel to it.

rat rod is for vw dumbasses. this thing is gonna be a straight up G ride yo

[Vee_Que]

Actually rat rod's are for Hot rodders, drifters can also do it if it looks as good as that.

[Volvorules]

Some updates are in this thread: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=67340

Gotta plumb the hydraulic hand brake, and still have a bunch of sanding/filling/sanding/priming to do. But I guess it's coming along...

[Bigbegum69]

yes it is.

[Zora]

Hi Rob!

We maked some T-shirt with your pic!
You will be famous in my country... ;-)
http://www.helppoint.hu/drift/v242.jpg

Zora

[mikep]

Very nice, Zora.

[dl242gt]

Rob you are so hooked up! Now those beautiful Hungarian women are going to be knocking on your door! All because of a T shirt!

Nice!

[Volvorules]

Zora, that is awesome!! I'm very proud to be on a t-shirt :)

Is there any chance you could send me one of them? That would be awesome.

Thanks !!!

[Poik]

Seems like your image site keeps changing IP addresses? Rob I was wondering if your roll cage was completed, and if you have any pictures of it. Specifically, I would like to see where you welded the rear support bars to. Thanks.

[Zora]

Zora, that is awesome!! I'm very proud to be on a t-shirt :)

Is there any chance you could send me one of them? That would be awesome.

Thanks !!!

Yes of course, I think we put it on ebay next week!
Rob would be a worldstar :cool:

[towerymt]

Seems like your image site keeps changing IP addresses? Rob I was wondering if your roll cage was completed, and if you have any pictures of it. Specifically, I would like to see where you welded the rear support bars to. Thanks.
I hosted the pics on dana's server. To get to the gallery, go to home.third-moon.com , select "gallery" from the drop down on the left, then go to my gallery at the bottom.

http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/towerymt.jpg

[242GTMD]

Rob's first official event is on Sunday. New for 2006 are "asthetic requirements" in an effort to weed out the local drift beaters. Since Rob couldn't hit the paint booth in time, he and Greg (he has a nice red 244) blasted the car with some sweet primer this weekend. Hopefully it passes!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/2006_0606DriftCar10003.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/2006_0606DriftCar10005.jpg
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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/2006_0606DriftCar10033.jpg

And a quick movie teaser :badboy:
password - volvo
sub album - DriftCar

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/th_2006_0606DriftCar10046.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/?action=view&current=2006_0606DriftCar10046.flv)

[740ATL]

hot.

[igor]

As far as I'm concerned, it more than passes! But damn, that car's gonna look amazing once it's all tidied up!

[Inc3pt]

Looks REALLY hot.:-D (Although, the chrome window trim kills me, but if you like it... :-P )

Anyway, looking forward to tons of pics from the event. I wish I could paint, period.

[gdogg16]

Looks great Rob!

[Sinbad the Sailor]

:omg: Wow!!!

Are you having any issues with rubbing with the wheels so close to the wheel arches?

Looks amazing.

Spencer

[blkaplan]

rob, once again the hat is off

[MikeHardy]

yeah it looks Great. wow.

[koenvbr]

hahaha, that's what its all about. LOVELY!!

[linuxman51]

haha that sounds badass, can't wait for you to drag it down here :)

[Hank Scorpio]

Bad ass Rob!!

How are the R brakes working out for you?

[BDKR]

That's some dead serious shizzle!

[Lord_Athlon]

That thing is straight up gorgeous. Does every flathood grill lean what way? Mine does and i put a few washers under the mount on that side.

[Tuff240]

I have a new desktop pic... thanks Rob. :)

Car is looking TUFF!! :twisted:

[BDKR]

Never noticed before, but that's a post '86 trunk right?

[SquareD]

Looks mean, sounds even meaner.

[stylngle2003]

looks brutal rob, good luck this weekend....where is the event?

[volvorules at work]

Thanks for the positive remarks guys! It was a nice quick 2 1/2 hour paint job with some masking tape and 6 spray cans...not permanent by any means. But I agree, it looks pretty good. Still have to do all the body filler, etc.

Inc3pt, the chrome window trim will be painted black at some point soon.

Hormone83, the wheels do not rub at all, no clearance issues whatsoever. Towery and I made SURE we had the exact offset and space in the fenders that we needed.

Kenny, I can't wait for SE either. I'll need to strap it on the dyno and get you to make a nice pretty timing map for it.

Doug, the R brakes are awesome! I hadn't really stomped them hard before last night on the way home, and good god, I'm glad I had the 5pt harness on!!! Those things are amazing. The Azenis left 2 stripes in the road, but they weren't quite locked up :) Guess I got them nice and hot.

Athlon, I have been having trouble with the grille. Forgot to add the washers yesterday, but I had them in there previously.

BDKR, I added that trunk lid recently, but yes it is a 86+. Got it specifically for my spoiler, which is obviously not mounted yet.

Billy, the event is in Manassas at Old Dominion Speedway. Practice starts around 10am, the event around 2pm or so. You gonna make it?

Thanks again guys.

Rob

[towerymt]

I just can't believe how even the primer came out, from a spray can. It really looks good as-is, but the best is yet to come.

[gdogg16]

I just can't believe how even the primer came out, from a spray can. It really looks good as-is, but the best is yet to come.
it is impressive. My coworker painted his cherokee with rusttough primer and it came out almost completely even.

[BenW]

I can just hear it now being all foul and disagreeable (in a completely nut-swelling way!)

[Inc3pt]

I wish I could make spraypaint come out that good. So, I have to bring this up as a question. I've heard that spraypainting is bad to do if you plan to do a real paintjob later. Something about the way it doesn't harden makes it bad. Thoughts on this? :-P

[Tuff240]

I wish I could make spraypaint come out that good. So, I have to bring this up as a question. I've heard that spraypainting is bad to do if you plan to do a real paintjob later. Something about the way it doesn't harden makes it bad. Thoughts on this? :-P
You just need to sand it all back off before you use real paint.
That makes it twice the work... putting it on isn't super easy and taking it back off isn't fun either.

[Inc3pt]

You just need to sand it all back off before you use real paint.
That makes it twice the work... putting it on isn't super easy and taking it back off isn't fun either.

Oh. Gotcha. I would so rock that paint job if I could do it right. :-D

[242GTMD]

Yeah, this stuff was marketed as "sandable primer" so hopefully some light sanding before it gets sprayed is all it needs!

[Tuff240]

Yeah, this stuff was marketed as "sandable primer" so hopefully some light sanding before it gets sprayed is all it needs!
If it came in a can and you are wanting to put a nice paintjob on it, you will need to take it all the way off. That stuff is bad juju. Wet sanding seems to work best as it helps keep the sandpaper clean. Spray can paint clogs up sandpaper real easy.

[Addicted242Boost]

If it came in a can and you are wanting to put a nice paintjob on it, you will need to take it all the way off. That stuff is bad juju. Wet sanding seems to work best as it helps keep the sandpaper clean. Spray can paint clogs up sandpaper real easy.


+1 I learned the hardway :/

[Bigbegum69]

damn thats sexy

[quinn_volvo]

Fine job.

what shade of the rainbow it will be? get er dun

[klr142]

Man. I thought you put big, grippy tires on that thing? Doesn't look like it in that video!!! SWEEEEEEEEEEET! I almost can't even tell that the fenders are flared... Front yes, but the rear, not so much. What color's it going to be?

Freaking pimp man! And yeah, sounds AWESOME! What's the exhaust/manifold/turbo setup?

Car is looking TUFF!! :twisted:
Dork... :-p

[BrickBaller]

I don't know how I missed this thread but WOW. Nice work!

[volvorules at work]

Man. I thought you put big, grippy tires on that thing? Doesn't look like it in that video!!! SWEEEEEEEEEEET! I almost can't even tell that the fenders are flared... Front yes, but the rear, not so much. What color's it going to be?

Freaking pimp man! And yeah, sounds AWESOME! What's the exhaust/manifold/turbo setup?


Dork... :-p

Yeah, just 245s in the back on the 9.5" wheels. The tires I had on for the burnout were pretty much toast anyway....

Front fenders are not flared at all, just have the inner edge rolled. Rear fenders have been pulled 1-1.5".

It's going to be painted a dark blue, like it used to be. I'm thinking maybe the new Magic Blue from the newer volvos, I really like that color.

Exhaust/manifold/turbo is all described in the first or second post...Proturbo manifold, Garrett GT2871R, and 3" all the way back with a dynomax bullet muffler, and side exit.

Rob

[klr142]

Yeah, just 245s in the back on the 9.5" wheels. The tires I had on for the burnout were pretty much toast anyway....

Front fenders are not flared at all, just have the inner edge rolled. Rear fenders have been pulled 1-1.5".

It's going to be painted a dark blue, like it used to be. I'm thinking maybe the new Magic Blue from the newer volvos, I really like that color.

Exhaust/manifold/turbo is all described in the first or second post...Proturbo manifold, Garrett GT2871R, and 3" all the way back with a dynomax bullet muffler, and side exit.

Rob
Ahhh, now I feel like an idiot... :roll: Anyway, that's a SWEET setup, sounds absolutely beautiful too. Great to hear someone using a real turbo in America... JEALOUS! :twisted:

[Homer]

Do you have any pics of the front susp setup?

[volvorules at work]

No, haven't gotten any shots of the suspension. It's just a basic coilover, but the strut tubes have been shortened. I still need to make new adapters for bump steer and roll center correction, I think Bne is working on a new method for those things. I've got a set of roll correction spacers, but they're not installed, as I don't have a proper method of attaching my bump steer spacers. Wouldn't be too hard to make, but I just haven't had any time lately.

[blkaplan]

No, haven't gotten any shots of the suspension. It's just a basic coilover, but the strut tubes have been shortened. I still need to make new adapters for bump steer and roll center correction, I think Bne is working on a new method for those things. I've got a set of roll correction spacers, but they're not installed, as I don't have a proper method of attaching my bump steer spacers. Wouldn't be too hard to make, but I just haven't had any time lately.

Yep, I got the CAD model all done, I just need to get it made and test fit, most likely on your car.

[stray]

Jesus, Rob, it's like you fast-forwarded my car about 3 years!

Looks fantastic! Are you running the kaplhenke camber plates along with the control arms, or is all that camber just from plates alone?

And what drift organization is working to keep drift beaters out of its events? :???: thats just dumb.

[towerymt]

Looks fantastic! Are you running the kaplhenke camber plates along with the control arms, or is all that camber just from plates alone?
GrpA plates...probably visible in one of the engine bay shots somewhere.

[MikeJr.]

Rob that car's awesome. I can't wait to see it at SE.

[blkaplan]

Here are the 43mm of fury that I made up for Rob's car.

They are to run the backup Pegs if he has tire or wheel issues with the Kodiaks.

http://www.pbase.com/blkaplan/image/61748676.jpg

[Hank Scorpio]

dats a HUGE bitch!

[boostdemon]

and using long studs too... i wonder if the studs will want to twist being that its gonna be on a drift car and all

[Hank Scorpio]

and using long studs too... i wonder if the studs will want to twist being that its gonna be on a drift car and all

+1.

Im a little surprized you didn't just use a seperate set of studs.

[towerymt]

+1.

Im a little surprized you didn't just use a seperate set of studs.
Can't. Long studs on the front already, to fit the Kodiak wheels that have a thick hub/flange area.

[Hank Scorpio]

Can't. Long studs on the front already, to fit the Kodiak wheels that have a thick hub/flange area.

Ahhh makes sense

[djecko]

What happened at the event?

[oldschoolvolvo]

wow....looks great!

[blkaplan]

and using long studs too... i wonder if the studs will want to twist being that its gonna be on a drift car and all

Even studs that long are still stronger then adapters as long as the stud quality is good, it is they are ARP

[1980 242GT]

So freakin awesome!!!!:)

[towerymt]

What happened at the event?
http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/volvo/gayabandon.jpg

[Tuff240]

He roll it? :omg:

[stylngle2003]

He roll it? :omg:

no thank god

lets just say the transition from the bank of Old Dominion Speedway to the infield (necessary to get tight, technical drifting going) is a bit steep, and if not taken perfectly can result in very heavy loads going to the outside front wheel...:-(

[BDKR]

...and if not taken perfectly can result in very heavy loads going to the outside front wheel...:-(


All kinds of ugly visions are going through my head now.

[Tuff240]

Will someone share the whole story please?

[Inc3pt]

Will someone share the whole story please?

+++++++

[Volvorules]

Ok. Not really anything bad. Bent one of the REAR Kodiak wheels. The outer lip was folded quite a bit. Pics will be posted shortly I'm sure. The inner has a very slight bend which can be hammered out. I already ordered the outer lip from Kodiak, should have it before the next event hopefully.

That was the better of the bad news. The worse one is that the wastegate pipe from the manifold to the gate cracked, creating a loss of boost. (Still makes ~2psi!!!) There is a slip-fit section at the downpipe where the wastegate return goes, but I guess there wasn't enough play. Flex-section is on order, and should be installed soon. Don't wanna have that happen again.

So all in all, the event sucked. I did 3 and 1/2 runs. The 3rd run was the one where I bent my wheel, and the 4th run was when the wastegate pipe cracked. So an early day for me, when I thought I could have done well against some good local competition. Oh well, I'll iron out these issues and have it ready for Hyperfest in July.

[Hank Scorpio]

Rob you want flex joints on the DP and the wastegate (if its plumbed into the exhaust which it sounds like) between the gate and DP.

I sheared mine off at the collector because I wasn't running a flex.

[Tuff240]

Rob you want flex joints on the DP and the wastegate (if its plumbed into the exhaust which it sounds like) between the gate and DP.

I sheared mine off at the collector because I wasn't running a flex.
Isn't that what he just said. :slap:

[Hank Scorpio]

Isn't that what he just said. :slap:

He said section.

Im saying he needs section(S) for both the gate and DP itself.

[towerymt]

yes he rolled it several times

edit: d'oh

[Volvorules]

Doug, the DP already has a flex section before the 90 bend under the car. WG was routed solidly, until it broke off :)

Should take care of that issue. Now I need John van laksfjoaiwel asdlv h to get me some bottom end stuff so I can turn the boost to 30psi or so.

[242GTMD]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/2006_0615ODS20060022.jpg
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People who didn't break:
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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/2006_0611ODS20060042.jpg

[BDKR]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/2006_0615ODS20060030.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/2006_0615ODS20060032.jpg


Wow!!! WTH happened?

Well, that's certainly the beauty of multi-piece wheels. Just replace the borked portion.

Good luck. :)

[klr142]

Wow!!! WTH happened?

Well, that's certainly the beauty of multi-piece wheels. Just replace the borked portion.

Good luck. :)
Seriously, those two pics :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

Well, here's to better things, well, wastegate attachments anyway... :cheers:

[242GTMD]

Rob (along with 90% of the field) spun on the transition from the banked straight into the infield. The back end slid off track and then back on, catching the lip of the pavement and pwning the lip. It's nice to have spares!

[BDKR]

Rob (along with 90% of the field) spun on the transition from the banked straight into the infield.


That's about the time when most sanctioning bodies decide that venue won't be used anymore.

Oh well...

[242GTMD]

That's about the time when most sanctioning bodies decide that venue won't be used anymore.

Oh well...
Yeah, it kinda sucks.

This was the third event in three years at ODS. It was also the third course lay-out in an effort to reduce the problem of the transition. Its just too severe to do at speed. I have Rob's spin on video, but I have no editing software to chop down the file.

[blkaplan]

Yeah, it kinda sucks.

This was the third event in three years at ODS. It was also the third course lay-out in an effort to reduce the problem of the transition. Its just too severe to do at speed. I have Rob's spin on video, but I have no editing software to chop down the file.

gregs audio commentary ftw.

[Hank Scorpio]

Yep, thats EXACTLY where my gate broke off too.

cheers to flex joints!

[quinn_volvo]

At this rate, there should already be a resurrection II thread.

;-)

[towerymt]

Yeah, it kinda sucks.

This was the third event in three years at ODS. It was also the third course lay-out in an effort to reduce the problem of the transition. Its just too severe to do at speed. I have Rob's spin on video, but I have no editing software to chop down the file.
They did two events last year, 6/5 and 9/10 (fife's batmobile lost a wheel at this one).

Your camera won't allow you to edit the vid? Mine will. What format is it?

[shaved240]

Rob, what shocks are you using with the shortened strut tube for you coilovers? How much was your strut tube shortened and did you just weld on the old threaded top section onto the shortened strut tube?

[Volvorules]

They're Koni Double Adjustable shocks. I bought the whole setup without springs from Tom Smith. Didn't do anything on my own but put them on the car :)

And I already ordered a lip for the wheel, should be good to go soon!

[pooprah]

itll buff out

[BrickPilot]

My guess is the wastegate would have broken off regardless. Slip fits usually work fine, its done on turbo collectors all the time and those are much more highly stressed than that joint

[MikeJr.]

That car, and Rob are a couple of bad mother f*ckers! Thanks again Rob for letting me take a ride. I'm still cleaning the sh*t out of my shorts.
-MikeJr.

[242GTMD]

I took advantage of some downtime in Alabama to snap a few pics of the drifter. Enjoy!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/DriftCar/2006_0801SE500121.jpg
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[242GTMD]

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[242GTMD]

Tapped the wall at the track.
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Ready to be fixed!
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[hockey930]

looks just fine, fender, sanding, black can, good to go.
Eamonn

[olov]

crush that pos :P

[Hank Scorpio]

wweeEEEeEEee better pictures finally!

so hawt

btw... exact same way (and type) I ran my air filter on the 242. Was a sweet setup

[foggyjames]

Needs moar euro 5-panel tails. Other than that...erm...needs to be mine :)

cheers

James

[242GTMD]

Needs moar euro 5-panel tails. Other than that...erm...needs to be mine :)

cheers

James
I'm not giving up my eruo 5-panels to be smashed!:-P I keep telling Rob to get the hova 6 panels on there but I think he is reluctant to ruin those as well.

[yorkbrick]

I have an extra 80's front bumper if he needs one.

[Volvorules]

btw... exact same way (and type) I ran my air filter on the 242. Was a sweet setup

Where do you think I got the idea? :)

I have an extra 80's front bumper if he needs one.

And I've already got all the parts to fix it, including bumper, but thanks for the offer :)

[blkaplan]

put some commandos on there sir bump alot!

[oldschoolvolvo]

wow...that car is so sweet

[nohbudi]

Where do you think I got the idea? :)


Where do you think HE got the idea? :-D

[mAydAy]

Yeah I know about that tapping the wall at the track....if only I just tapped *bawls*

[foggyjames]

What the hell happened Andy...I've heard various references to this, but don't know what it's all about. Did you stack the ARRRRR or something?

cheers

James

[stylngle2003]

What the hell happened Andy...I've heard various references to this, but don't know what it's all about. Did you stack the ARRRRR or something?

cheers

James

stacked....yeah. you could say that.

it's totalled

[Brickster151]

On the subject of hitting walls - thanks again Rob for letting me ride along during that run at SE. The craziest ride I've ever been in my whole life. I was surprised the car came out with the amount of damage it did, for some reason it seemed much worse when we hit the wall.

your car is ****ing badass and it has really inspired me to get off of my ass with my 244

[dturbo]

I agree with pat, this car has definately inspired me alot on my 242. hoping to make mine into a drift/daily driver as well. great car man, what turbo are u running by the way?? love the manifold/header set up for sure. good luck with getting it back to where it was man.

brian

[towerymt]

...what turbo are u running by the way??
See the first post. ;-)

[Bishop]

Ouch, drifting be hard on cars, seems almost criminal to treat a 242 like that.

Still, there is something pure sex about a flat black 242 built purely for function...

[sekokupu]

Those older taillights look good in that, real racer -look lights :) I have same lights in my 244, but slightly modified: http://sekokupu.pp.fi/projekti/tuuninki/IMG_5558.JPG

[Sinbad the Sailor]

Are you having any problems with the hood flexing at speed? I removed the center support and my hood tries to rip it's self off the car. But I am also using the stock latch. Will be switching to pins when the flathood comes.

[Volvorules]

No, I haven't had any trouble with the hood flexing. Especially after that time I forgot to pin it down, and it ripped right off!!! Still haven't installed the replacement yet :)

[boostdemon]

new pics... of the new hotness. I'll let Rob give the details which im sure he'll do once he regains the abilty to type after deadlifting a T5 11tybillion times lol

http://www.saliv8.com/beta/IMAGE_026.jpg
http://www.saliv8.com/beta/IMAGE_028.jpg
http://www.saliv8.com/beta/IMAGE_029.jpg
http://www.saliv8.com/beta/IMAGE_030.jpg

and old and busted being parted out:
http://www.saliv8.com/beta/IMAGE_032.jpg
then left to rot in the middle of the floor :-(
http://www.saliv8.com/beta/IMAGE_031.jpg

[maxman142001]

very, very nice work guys! What happend to the old motor? specs on new motor?

[BDKR]

http://www.saliv8.com/beta/IMAGE_026.jpg

Schweet!!!

[Mesoam]

feel free to remove that "old junk" turbo and ship it to me... :lol:

didn't expect silver but i'm dying to see finished pics

[2fast242gt]

shoulda done flat black... keep the blackness going

[impulse922]

shoulda done flat black... keep the blackness going

then you can't see oil leaks and if i didn't have any oil leaks i'd be damn proud

oh, and nice shop

[classiccarsrule85]

This just makes me wish i had a 242 even more hopefully someday.....but i have to say nice car alot better than the normal drifter have you surprized any one yet, has anyone said " that car? drift?" or something like that for that is what i would think would end up happening but i gotta say nice jorb

[Sinbad the Sailor]

What is the clearance between the wheels and the brake calipers? I am wanting to run wheels that look similar but have an offset of 15 front and 19 back and want to guess at how thick of a spacer I'll need to run the R brakes.

[Hank Scorpio]

looks like you painted the engine bay with aluminum foil :lol:

[boostdemon]

Schweet!!!

new sponsor... Renyolds Wrap! :rofl:

[boostdemon]

looks like you painted the engine bay with aluminum foil :lol:

beat me to it... it really does look like aluminum foil, its insanely shiny.. like sanded chrome

[Geoff240Ti]

very, very nice work guys! What happend to the old motor? specs on new motor?

Reallly curious about that one.

[242GTMD]

Old motor = spun bearing at SE, repaired, on last legs

New motor = JVAB, moar booooost

[klr142]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, tasty.............................. Can't wait to see the new dyno sheets and the comparison between the two builds and sheets... Awesome!

[Tabor]

Old motor = spun bearing at SE, repaired, on last legs

Any idea why? Insufficient oil?

[242GTMD]

Any idea why? Insufficient oil?
No real idea. For a stock L block, this motor saw an awful lot of abuse. The drifting events are murder on equipment. The car never gets driven normally, except on/off the trailer. When on the track, or *ahem* in front of Sams shop, the car is full throttle/high rpms the entire time.

[77240dl]

I WANT THIS CAR!!!!!!! along with towery's too... all you MD guys got sick rides.....

[stylngle2003]

very nice!

can't wait to go cone plowing in this beast again :rofl:

[quinn_volvo]

looks good

do I see remains of the NEW hood on those hinges?

[towerymt]

do I see remains of the NEW hood on those hinges?
new hood has NOT been out of the box yet. that's the old hood remains, luckily.

[m3sonic]

ok when i saw you in costal and you guys told me about it i wasnt thinking.......... hahahahahaha there should be a turkey in there not a engine lmao
beat me to it... it really does look like aluminum foil, its insanely shiny.. like sanded chrome

[740ATL]

so fresh and so clean clean...

[Volvorules]

Ok, so the new engine is in, and mostly ready to go. A few things like oil catch can, oil pressure gauge, etc. need to be finished up. Still need to feed the wiring back into the engine bay too.

Still waiting to install the black dash; I just had to get rid of the brown one. Interior and cage need paint too. But I'm working on sanding and body work in preparation for it's paint job! Yay, real paint!!

Here are a few pics:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0405Sanding0007.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0405Sanding0005.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0405Sanding0004.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0405Sanding0002.jpg

I really hate Bondo and sanding bondo. Any type of sanding, really. I have a few weeks to get the body ready so the ever-generous Mikep can shoot some nice dark blue paint on it. I've very excited to have it be one shiny color again!

[2fast242gt]

gona miss the flat black i must say.. but the bark blue looks awsome is it gona be the same dark blue it was when you first got it? that was neat. is there any rust at all on the car?

[242GTMD]

I really hate Bondo and sanding bondo. Any type of sanding, really.
I hear that. I'm still picking black boogers out of my nose from sanding the cage. Guess I should've worn a mask huh? :lol:

[Hank Scorpio]

Cant wait to see it man!! Gonna be epic when its done rob!

[Volvorules]

Got some interior work done today. Been working on cleaning it up to get it painted. Here are some shots while I was priming it. The floors will be semi-flat black, and everything else will be white. More pics tomorrow hopefully.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0414intpaint0030.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0414intpaint0029.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0414intpaint0028.jpg

[Biesey]

thats looking awesome You going to have it ready for Carlisle? can't wait to see the rest of the pictures!

[Tuff240]

You using spray can primer?

[growley]

Very nice, the cage looks like it was from the factory.

[Volvorules]

You using spray can primer?

Of course :) Spray can primer is the best!

[gdogg16]

Looking good Rob!

[amargill19?]

wicked.

After seeing this whole thread I should get back to working on my ish.

[Volvorules]

More spray can beauty!! Interior paint is done. A few spots to touch up, but not really worried about them. Enjoy!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0417intpaint20003.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0417intpaint20002.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0417intpaint20004.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0417intpaint20005.jpg

[Brickster151]

Looks awesome Rob!

Did you spend much time prepping the floors for the paint [removing crap still stuck to it from the sound deadening] or did you just spray it right over? I'm debating just throwing some rhino-liner type stuff on the floors of the 244.

[Volvorules]

I didn't spend a bunch of time on the little details. I scraped all the tar paper off, and in most sections there is still a bit of the adhesive on the floor. I did take WD-40 and clean up the front floor sections and trans. tunnel, but on the floor in the back I didn't do much. It actually doesn't look bad with the semi-flat paint on it. I was thinking of the rhino-liner stuff, but just figured painting it would be easier. I'm just happy it's not that nasty tan color anymore :)

[stylngle2003]

looks sick man, can't wait for another ride in that beast

[Hank Scorpio]

Looks great Rob. The only bad thing about having bare metal floors is they look like ass after the second time you get into the car. Nothing you can't solve with a cheap-o floor mat or a beer and ignoring it. lol

btw by the time you rhino line that entire floor wells, you might as well have just left the sound deadner in.

[YLD244]

what is rhino liner?

[Brickster151]

what is rhino liner?

It's a spray on truck bedlining, it's normally used for truck beds and is grittier than the normal plastic linings used, and it is fairly permanent. Durable but possibly heavy as mentioned.

http://www.adventure4wd.com.au/good_oil/images/rhino_linings_brand.jpg

I figure maybe just a coat or two of paint and the OEM rubber winter mats should do to keep it looking decent if thats a concern.

[Tanglefoot]

This car is one of my favorites to see - I'm really looking forward to seeing it done!

[YLD244]

so how do you apply this rhino liner? is it sprayed with a proof coat / bitumin gun??

[oldschoolvolvo]

so how do you apply this rhino liner? is it sprayed with a proof coat / bitumin gun??

i think it's either w/ a paint gun or a roller of some sort

[Tuff240]

so how do you apply this rhino liner? is it sprayed with a proof coat / bitumin gun??
Schutz gun like undercoating. It is actually very similar to undercoating, just a lot harder/stronger/more permanent.

[Hank Scorpio]

So are you shooting white boogers out of your nose Rob or were you smart enough to wear a mask?

I prefer funny colored boogers.

[Volvorules]

Haha, no white boogers. I did wear a mask. But I didn't wear one today while sanding bondo, so they are still kinda nasty :)

[2fast242gt]

you should truck bed line just your driverside where your feet will be the stuffs like 7 dollars a can for the duplicolor stuff. it wont add any weight if you just do the drivers side it wont wear threw like regular paint, hell maybe do the passenger side? you dont have to lay it down thick to get good results. i use it all the time the stuff rocks

[YLD244]

so are you doing the exterior bodywork yourself?
or are u getting a panel beater to do it?

[crandandall]

I used the Dupli-color spray bedliner on my subwoofer box, worked out pretty well. I'm gonna get a gallon of the roll on stuff to do the rest of my cargo area. My buddy did this on the outside of his jeep and it came out great. Waaay better than the spray on stuff. I bet that even after you roll on the Duplicolor bedliner in the passenger compartment , it would still be lighter than the original tar paper crap.

[Volvorules]

so are you doing the exterior bodywork yourself?
or are u getting a panel beater to do it?

I'm doing the bodywork. We'll see how it comes out...good thing it's not a show car :)

[YLD244]

yeah have a go at it!! i did all the bodywork on my car, i just took my time, and even though it was the first time i picked up a spray gun, i think it came out really good. At first i practiced on the boot lid, then moved on to the ret of the car. I have sprayed many cars since then, and i have learnt so much.
My tip for you, use a really heavy coat of spray putty!!! then apply a light black guide coat over it. once dry for a day, rub it back with a big block till no guide is left. then hit with primer, wet sand with 600, then paint away!!

Good luck man, i cant wait to see how it comes out.

[Volvorules]

Got the new (to me) black dashboard in and most of the wiring done. Just have to install the dipstick tube (which I left in my toolbox at work) and add coolant and oil and fire it up!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0422dash0002.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/Volvokiller/2007_0422dash0003.jpg

[Alex Buchka]

Rob, the car is looking bad ass. Is that a quick release steering hub? Where did you get it?

[shaved240]

yeah have a go at it!! i did all the bodywork on my car, i just took my time, and even though it was the first time i picked up a spray gun, i think it came out really good. At first i practiced on the boot lid, then moved on to the ret of the car. I have sprayed many cars since then, and i have learnt so much.
My tip for you, use a really heavy coat of spray putty!!! then apply a light black guide coat over it. once dry for a day, rub it back with a big block till no guide is left. then hit with primer, wet sand with 600, then paint away!!

Good luck man, i cant wait to see how it comes out.

what is spray putty?

[jungledorifuto]

Man i remember seeing this car aswell as the white sedan like 3 years ago, just some pictures. I'm really liking what this car has been up to.

[2fast242gt]

awsome i like that u kept the carpet! very neat!

[YLD244]

what is spray putty?

Spray putty is a high build spray on bondo. It is awesome for making panels nice and flat. It can fill small imperfections or even larger ones depending on thickness. IMHO i believe you should always use it when preparing panels to be sprayed, as its the quickest and easiest way of prepping to get panels smooth as glass.

I use a primer-filler by Protec, which is a 2 in 1, so you dont need to put primer over the spray putty before you paint. You just put it on thick with a 1.4 or 1.6mm nozzle, apply your guide coat, then let cure for a while before you block off the guide coat. Then paint away!
Iv'e had great success with this product as it has very little sink-backs even after 7 years so far.

[socalsean]

Spray putty is a high build spray on bondo. It is awesome for making panels nice and flat. It can fill small imperfections or even larger ones depending on thickness. IMHO i believe you should always use it when preparing panels to be sprayed, as its the quickest and easiest way of prepping to get panels smooth as glass.

I use a primer-filler by Protec, which is a 2 in 1, so you dont need to put primer over the spray putty before you paint. You just put it on thick with a 1.4 or 1.6mm nozzle, apply your guide coat, then let cure for a while before you block off the guide coat. Then paint away!
Iv'e had great success with this product as it has very little sink-backs even after 7 years so far.

Is this the same as high build primer....just different terminology?

[Captain Bondo]

Is this the same as high build primer....just different terminology?


People interchange the names, but they are technically/chemically different.

"Spray putty" is polyester based and catalyzed with MEKP like bondo or Polyester Fiberglass Resin for that matter. IMO it is not really well suited for automotive use, but people certainly use it. I use Duratec polyester primer all of the time but I use it for composites fabrication (plug/mold surfacing).

It's quite porous after you sand it and is hydroscopic and isn't a sealer. In composites use you polish and wax it.

High Build, or Primer/Surfacer or surfacer/sealer etc is an actual high solids primer and its chemical makeup will be based upon whatever paint system you are using.

Surfacer/Sealer is the thing to use. You can scuff that car and wipe with wax/grease remover and shoot the car and know you have a nice fresh surface to work with that is for sure compatible with your chosen paint system. then bondo, then another coat of sealer, then color.

HTH

[liquidvice]

Got the new (to me) black dashboard in and most of the wiring done. Just have to install the dipstick tube (which I left in my toolbox at work) and add coolant and oil and fire it up!

Another Volvo part lives a second life in Rob's car! :) This time its my '84 240 turbo. How many different cars are we up to now? 4 or 5?

-Greg

[towerymt]

How many different cars are we up to now? 4 or 5?
at least 10 that I can count. the blue car + the bertone, the tan car (I'm assuming), your '84, a junkyard 244T, scott's old 242, headlights/grille from some mystery car, I think one fender from yet another car, the trunk from another junkyard car, and a dash gauge block off plate from my '90. there are probably others, too.

[77240dl]

definetly wanna see it before you prime it.... wanna build a 245 next???

[Volvorules]

definetly wanna see it before you prime it.... wanna build a 245 next???

I don't think you wanna see it, it's very ugly right now :)

And no, I don't build cars, I hate working on mine, and can't wait till it's done so I can just drive it!

[77240dl]

I loved it when it was blue....

[Volvorules]

I loved it when it was blue....

Good, cause it's blue again!!

Yay!

[klr142]

Prove It! :-P

[towerymt]

the picture you've all been waiting for!


http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/new_blue_car1.jpg

[gdogg16]

the picture you've all been waiting for!


http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/new_blue_car1.jpg
I love color matched bumpers and lights!

[Hank Scorpio]

the picture you've all been waiting for!


http://mason.gmu.edu/~mtowery/new_blue_car1.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Crazychopstick]

Fully shaved too!

[towerymt]

I love color matched bumpers and lights!
it doesn't have bumpers or lights, DUH

Fully shaved too!
indeed it is.

[gdogg16]

it doesn't have bumpers or lights, DUH



Your mom doesn't have any lights or bumpers.

[towerymt]

Your mom doesn't have any lights or bumpers.
I know you are, but what am I?

[quinn_volvo]

Michael what are the royalties for letting ipd post your car in every annual catalog? How many digits?

Rob looks great, can't wait to see it all buttoned up!

Kojak?

[Volvorules]

Yeah the car will look good soon. Gotta do a bunch of polishing on the old Kojaks, they are nasty right now. I'm not revealing the car till Carlisle, so you all can wait till then :)

Yes I'm being a douche.