Project Bertone Sleeper

[Bigbegum69]

My first post on turbobricks was a few years ago. It was when I started this project. The car is a 1 owner 1980 Bertone that my parents bought brand new. In 2002 the headgasket blew and the car sat in our garage for a couple of years. Over its entire life it had been well maintained and driven on the weekends. It also recieved a cheap paint job around 1999.

I am taking care of this project in stages. Stage 1, the drivetrain is almost complete. It consists of

Chevrolet Gen II LT-1 engine (fuel injected 350 chevy, iron block w/aluminum heads)
Factory rating about 275hp and 300tq.
I have rebuilt it to stock specs.

4l60 transmission (4 speed overdrive automatic)

I have a massive fuel system because I will be adding forced induction or nitrous in the future.
16 gallon fuel cell
Aeromotive fuel pump, filter, and bypass regulator
-8 feed lines
-6 return lines

I started this buildup in my highschool shop class. All the body work and painting was also done there. I couldnt have done this project without the help of my teacher. He is a hotrodder himself. So when he found out what I wanted to do, he was on board. You will see some of his cars in the backround of my pictures from time to time.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/hotrods.jpg
Can you spot the real hotrod?

So the first thing I did was pull the old motor out I cleaned up the engine bay, shaved the battery tray, and put down some fresh black paint.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/FrontalShotUnpainted.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/batterytray.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/bumper.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/clearance.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/driversmount.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/passengermount.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/driverpainted.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/passpainted.jpg
I think the paint turned out great. I also had a buddy paint the flag under the hood.

[Bigbegum69]

So the progress kept on progressing. I worked on it for a ton of hours. about 12 hours a week for about a year. I used block hugger headers that cleared the steering shaft. PCMs for less did the computer programming. I slapped a new optispark and water pump on it. Used a corvette radiator, as recomended in the JTR book. For a fan I used a dual 12" flexalite slimline fan. I had to chop it up a little, like the entire car but it fits.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/EngineDriver.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/swaybar.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/ypipe.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/Tank.jpg

[Bigbegum69]

Now I am working on parting together all of the suspension parts. So far all I have are the bilstiens. I am about to build some coilovers, urethane bushings, sway bars, build some subframe connectors and detail the undercarage. I also want to get all the kalpenhein racing parts. sorry about the spelling. I also want to put the new style dashboard in it with a new heater core and blower motor.

[Vee_Que]

Sounds good, I've been in a stock (save for rust repairs on the russian steel roof) 82' Australian spec 262C with a 355 holden v8 stroker making 500hp or so and the tubs have been worked to fit 255/55/17 rims I beleive, having a 262C ain't subtle, the roof does that quite well, but they are awsome.

[Dauntless]

Right on. I love 262C Bertones. Not sure I agree with your engine choice, but you've put in a lot of work, and I'm sure it will be a beast! Good luck with it man ;-)

[JohnMc]

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room13/314531/EnginePassenger.jpg
Wow, a surprising amount of room around the headers there.

Looks nice.

[Matt Dupuis]

Looks fantastic. I hope the optispark treats you better than 99% of the people out there. It's a funny looking sway bar you've got, is that a Bertone thing? It's fat like my IPD bar but the droop is so much narrower...

Edit - blah, that's your motor mount.

[RedFridge]

Bumping this because it's so kick-ass.

[Bigbegum69]

thanks mang

[Sp3aK]

So the car is running right? Have you dyno'd it? A stock LT1 with no tune, headers/exhaust and a 6spd will put down around in the 270s for HP.... Depending on where you are I know of a place where you can get the car dyno-tuned and get it tuned right ;D (where i work ;) ).

Anyways beyond the thread jack I'm a fan of the car. It's definately a sleeper. Have you been able to weigh the car with that motor setup? I'm sure its quicker than a camaro with the same motor/setup.

[Bigbegum69]

The computer has a pcm for less program on it. Headers, no cat, 150 degree t-stat, cold air intake, no egr, a few free mods, alternator and crank pully. I havnt dyno'd it yet because I am having to tweak out the throttle cable. I can take it to about 8/10ths throttle right now. it hauls anyways.

[Hackett88]

i saw this on google video a while ago

[SlowHo0ptie]

Looks awesome! My only suggestion would be 25mm spacers at the rear wheels.

[Bigbegum69]

can i see the link? was it for ricekiller.com?

I am gunna slap some 17's on it so I will need spacers.

I am about to update everything. I am having the tranny rebuilt right now with art morrison parts and getting a hughs 2500 stall. should be pretty neeto.

later
Ryan

[Bigbegum69]

Well i got the tranny worked out. New additions are...

87+ dashboard
Autometer guages
Bilstien HDs all around
Ipd v6 25mm front sway.. (i need a rear ipd bar if anyone wants to sell one)
cut v6 springs in the front
ipd wagon overloads
virgos with 205/50/15 falken rt615s

I handles much better but is very stiff to say the least. coilovers are coming soon and a less stiff rear spring.

I made it out to the 1/8th mile track and the falkens didnt do to good. I was expecting that. everyone was looking at me funny when i did huge burnouts from one tire.

for the record i was spinning all the way down the track...

a few times

(best et)
.6639 -- reaction
2.2399- 60 ft
5.9624- 330ft
9.0922- 1/8th
77.83 -- mph

(best mph)
.5560 -- reaction
2.3938- 60 ft
6.1603- 330ft
9.2804- 1/8th
78.58 -- mph


Once i get some drag radials and a locker its going to be a lot different. And once I can put a decent 60 ft. im going to add nitrous.


pics are coming soon..... SORRRY!

[n xntrx volvo]

what battery hold down is that? i've got a rear mount optima too, but its in the nhra spec box (way too big, gotta go).

[Bigbegum69]

aerospace components i believe.

[Bigbegum69]

Ok so here are some pictures that others took from our little mini meet.

I have blacked out the front end
installed a newer dashboard
added autometer guages
graphite virgos with 205/50/15 falkens rt615s
cut another coil off the front v6 springs
added wagon overload springs (cut 2 coils)
bilstien HD's all around
v6 ipd 25mm front bar

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room13/314531/meet%20timeline2.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room13/314531/meet%20time%20line.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room13/314531/meet%20whole%20car.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room13/314531/meet%20rear%20end.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room13/314531/meet%20interior.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room13/314531/meet%20front%20end.jpg


how do you like it. I think it has a nice rake going on. I also have two 15x7 multispoke wheels that I am going to mount 235/60/15 m/t drag radials on. I also just ordered a tru track for it. anyways I want to know what you guys think. Thanks to the TX VS guys for taking the pictures and vids.

Heres a little video. It is kind of distorted.
exhaust video
http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/BtownVolvo/?action=view&current=MOV01068.flv

[Bigbegum69]

Im going to start updating this page.

Here are some pictures for now.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/passenger-1.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/driver.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/quarter.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/goodengineshot.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/swaybar.jpg

[giantrobot]

That looks about as good as a 262C can.:)

[stylngle2003]

need smaller bumpers!

but other than that, it looks good...i can't imagine a 205 has an icecube's chance in hell of hooking LT1 torque to the pavement, but how do you like them?

[Vee_Que]

Looks stunning man.

[chree]

Lets see photos of the Ford 8.8!

(Oh and LT1s RULE! :zeeall: )

[Bigbegum69]

Well, I had some problems with the dana 1031. I guess it didnt like all the torque and smokey burnouts. It took a dump.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/danaspider.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/danapinion.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/danagear.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/danacover.jpg

So I found another rear end and had them swapped in about an hour. I had a truetrac sitting around but sold it because I knew the 1031 wouldnt cut it with some sticky tires if it couldnt handle one 205/50/15.


Sooo... I read the forum for a while, along with some gm and ford forums and decided on a ford explorer 8.8 rear end. The 96+ models come with 31 spline axles, they can be found with factory limited slip diffs and have a nice disk brake setup. Oh and they are very abundant. I got mine for around $200.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/Front.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/back.jpg

[Bigbegum69]

So after taking some measurements and talking to everyone on the board I decided the housing would need to be shortend. Since the pinion is offset a couple of inches I figured I would just shorten the long side, and use two equal length axles. Well, Thats what I did, and the housing is still sitting in my garage! Call me lazy. I am also broke and the volvo needs a new optispark.

here are some size comparisons anyways.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/axlespline.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/axlecomp.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/ringcomparo.jpg


and one more reason to add a stronger rear end.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/n.jpg

[YURPLES]

How much did your parents pay for it when they bought it? Just curious how much those were brand new.

[Crazychopstick]

NAWZ!

Nice carnage man!

[Bigbegum69]

well i got two new sets of wheels. both were good deals that I could not pass up.

First set:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/are.jpg

ARE 16x7.5
25mm offset, they are getting polished lips and gold centers. Should be done within a few weeks.

Second set

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/ronals.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/quarter-1.jpg

Ronal 16x8
10mm offset

I got these for under 100 so I just picked them up. They might fit with the 8.8 which is back on track.

[Bigbegum69]

I also got a vintage air system and a ez 2 wire system, so the interior is abut to go under construction. I am going to rewire the whole car, and throw some a/c in it. I also want to do a little sound insulation and put a nice stereo in it.

[Crazychopstick]

I also got a vintage air system and a ez 2 wire system, so the interior is abut to go under construction. I am going to rewire the whole car, and throw some a/c in it. I also want to do a little sound insulation and put a nice stereo in it.

a/c in Texas? Wuss. :-P I'm planning on taking mine out.

Let's see some moar pics man!

[Bigbegum69]

Here are some pics for you.....

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/clearance-1.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/rear.jpg

my airbox is out too.. i want to be able to drive my car every day.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/tbwiring.jpg


old vid

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/th_redlinevolvo.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/?action=view&current=redlinevolvo.flv)

[262 grand national]

ez 2 wire system, I am going to rewire the whole car

How did that rewire turn out with the ez 2 wire set up? I am looking to do the same.

[DaButcher]

Nice ride :-)

[Bigbegum69]

NOT ENUF POWA!!!!

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/right.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/left.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/out2.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/out1.jpg


muahahahah


a lil nitrous cam and a lil spray.... should be fun.

[Bigbegum69]

made a lil more progress... its going back together. still waiting on a new optispark.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/manifold2.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/manifold1.jpg

[Vee_Que]

I love the ronal's, send them to me for my 260!

[chree]

Good work. What cam & which Optispark are you going with?

[Bigbegum69]

Im going with a lingenfelter cam, gm optispark. It got warrentied so its free.

should have it back together in a couple of days. Then i need to rewire the car and set up the vintage air unit.

[Bigbegum69]

time to update the projects page. I will start with my wheels


ARE 16x7.5 Refinished by Tim's Powdercoating in Dallas, Tx.

I am going to use these on the front of the car.

When I got them they all had bends and nicks

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/wheelsrepaired.jpg

Then they straitened them out and polished the lips

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/wheelspolished.jpg

Then comes the powdercoat

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/are4.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/are2.jpg

I still need to put the screws back in them.



I also have a set of ronals. 16x8 et10 5x4.25 bolt pattern. These are going on the 8.8 in the back. They are getting refinished the same way, polished lip, crazy gold butterscotch center.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/ronals.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/quarter-1.jpg


And now some 17x8 mustang wheels, they fit decent.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/stang.jpg

[Bigbegum69]

Now the 8.8 has the brackets transfered.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/bead3.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/bead2.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/BEAD1.jpg

[Bigbegum69]

I also got a flathood and a dual round setup.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/flathood.jpg

not yet installed.

[jungledorifuto]

what are you doing for the driveshaft?

[Vee_Que]

nooo don't do dual rounds! I've got a flat hood grill that will fit the quad recs nicely that I can get for you!!!

[Bigbegum69]

no, i mean single rounds... I have a brand new aftermarket grill for the quad rec. setup too. I need to try them out and see which i like more. I will go 86+ when i paint it tho.

[Bigbegum69]

I need to get the dana 30 end replaced with a ford explorer end. pretty simple. just take it to a driveshaft shop and tell them what i want.

[262 grand national]

Unless you plan on going really low then I would go 3. Thats what I did with mine and have no complaints. I don't think I will ever break it. :P But there is always a chance. How wide did the 8.8 end up being anyways. I just measured mine last night. 57 3/4.

Chris

[Bigbegum69]

I think its time for an update... I have been posting in the performance and showroom sections, but I can't sleep so here I am.... The 8.8 is in, the stance is whack, and the wheels don't match but the car is hauling ass. It looks like ass too but thats next on the agenda... So is a 383 and ported heads :wtf:.... that means 9 second et's.

Installing the rear end worked out great. I had a local shop shorten it and transfer the volvo brackets over. Sent it to powder coat and then set it up with a ford trac-loc diff. I started with 3.73 gears. The car was a monster on motor but would not hook up on the street with nitrous... I now have 3.27's and a 2-stage nitrous system and the car hooks very well on the street and does 1.5x 60fts at the track. does similar 60fts on the street.... :-D the car is an ego crusher....

here is how the car is sitting now....

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/side-1.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/frontquarter.jpg

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[Bigbegum69]

I have done a pretty big revamp on the motor aswell... I got sick and tired of the old lt1 fuel injection system. I went with a carb setup. I am still using stock heads and bottom end. The new setup consists of a modified victor jr. intake, msd distributor and digital-6, holley 750, modified 3rd gen camaro air cleaner and a 2 stage big shot nitrous plate. nitrous is a 175 shot.

best time slip so far was at the 1/4 mile track in ardmore.

1.59 60ft
4.56 330ft
7.07 1/8 et
95.12 1/8 mph
9.32 1000ft et
109.89 1000ft mph
11.19 1/4 et
120.74 1/4 mph

The tranny wasn't doing well that day. It didn't want to shift into 3rd... but I was super happy with the car that day. i drove the car about 120 miles to the track, ran about 8 passes, and drove it home. It ran perfect. The best part was I didn't make a single change at the track, I showed up ready to race.

Here is a recent picture of the engine bay...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/motor.jpg

Just for reference. This is without much interior...

Total weight 3201.
Corner weights with me in the car:

LF 904 RF 829
LR 757 RR 712

[Bigbegum69]

My daily driver is costing me and arm and a leg to drive so I started driving the volvo a lot more. With no carpet, no insulation, and a bunch of holes in the firewall it was time to work on the interior. I also rewired the entire car using a 5 switch panel with a pushbutton starter and painless wiring 8 circuit fusepanel.

The large holes in the firewall from the old ac lines, factory wiring and heater hoses, plus the fact that i ripped all of the factory insulation out started to get on my nerves. The heat was rushing in and it sounded like a tin can inside. I was fed up. I also have had a vintage air universal a/c and heater box that I bought a while back and knew it would be useless without heat insulation.

I ordered 36 sq ft of second skin "damplifier"... a buytle based "dynamat" product
3 sheets of second skin "heat wave"... a double sided heat insulator

overkill? probably.. whatever I don't use i will install in my diesel

I have also had a NOS dashboard and nice glove box so I pulled them out of the garage, cleaned them up and installed them. everything in these pictures took me about 10 hours... im a loser.

I am very happy with the results so far, it no longer feels like i am sitting in a funnycar and the large holes in the firewall are sealed. I still have the floors to do.

here is the damplifier installed...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/damplifier.jpg
thats a good shot of my gangsta relay panel I spent a few hours on :oops:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/damplifier2.jpg

and the heatwave....

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/heatwave3.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/heatwave2.jpg

the switch panel

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/VOLVO004.jpg

the dash

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/dash2-1.jpg


I have carpet installed now as well but I have not taken any pictures yet. I will update when I install the new stereo.

[Bigbegum69]

here are a bunch of random pictures....

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/staginglane.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/VOLVO009.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/VOLVO008.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/VOLVO007.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/VOLVO006.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/rearend1.jpg


let me know what you think... time for bed.

[262 grand national]

Your 60ft are pretty good wondering if you hit the tens if you keep that up. I am sure you also love the 8.8 too. I know it makes big dif when you can lay down some good times. I know I had a lot of heat transfer on my fire wall also. What is the temp rating on the insulator that you used. I am looking to do the same thing.

[740ATL]

I love this car and I love what you've done with it.

Have you ever considered going back to fuel injection with something like MS to replace the stock GM stuff?

Mike

[linuxman51]

nice. Are the two lines on the top of the fuel cell the return lines or is one some sort of vent?

[stylngle2003]

hot

[Bigbegum69]

Your 60ft are pretty good wondering if you hit the tens if you keep that up. I am sure you also love the 8.8 too. I know it makes big dif when you can lay down some good times. I know I had a lot of heat transfer on my fire wall also. What is the temp rating on the insulator that you used. I am looking to do the same thing.


I don't think i can hit 10's without changing the heads or cam. The motor is taking the most nitrous it will. I pilled it up to a 250 shot and it did not get any faster. the timing is still super safe and I am running rich but I don't want to put the car on too close to the edge.

not sure what the temp rating is on the insulator... i do know after hours of driving the area i used the product is still cool to the touch... here is a link http://www.secondskinaudio.com/thermal-insulation/heat-wave-pro.php

[Bigbegum69]

I love this car and I love what you've done with it.

Have you ever considered going back to fuel injection with something like MS to replace the stock GM stuff?

Mike

If I go turbo it will def. be fuel injected. one day.

[Bigbegum69]

nice. Are the two lines on the top of the fuel cell the return lines or is one some sort of vent?

one is a vent and one is the return.

[262 grand national]

If I go turbo it will def. be fuel injected. one day. You know you could do a blow thru set up. :)

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=afe96ad0ffb339b5e0a3c11c777825 49&board=20.0

This prob one of the best sites for info on DIY and others.

Have you found out what the weight of the car is? I would like to know what kinda hp your putting down. My goal is to get the Bertone down to about 2800 to 2900 like I had my 242. That would be 700# lighter than a GN. :)

[Bigbegum69]

You know you could do a blow thru set up. :)

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=afe96ad0ffb339b5e0a3c11c777825 49&board=20.0

This prob one of the best sites for info on DIY and others.

Have you found out what the weight of the car is? I would like to know what kinda hp your putting down. My goal is to get the Bertone down to about 2800 to 2900 like I had my 242. That would be 700# lighter than a GN. :)


2923 without me, the sound deadening, carpet and stereo.

[262 grand national]

2923 without me, the sound deadening, carpet and stereo.

from the 1/4 calculator looks like your getting about 425 to the ground. I am sure it is off but still very good for what you have. I think if you swap out the bertone seats and hand brake console and few minor things you could see high tens. I would change the weight on the rims and few other things. every 100# is 1/10th , your very close. Also if you pulled your 60ft down just a hair too. I think you can do it. :P with what you have now. I know you don't want to break anything because that is down time and cost $. LOL I am just a poor racer that has to save up for few months just to get a deep sump tranny pan. :)

[Bigbegum69]

thanks man.... the car really should be running 10's. hopefully with enough tinkering I will reach that number. :)

[Bigbegum69]

I bought a bunch of pictures from a guy that covers racing events. they turned out great and just wanted to post them up... notice how the front end lifts.. :-P

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/okc1.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/okc11.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/okc4.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/okc15.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/redline1.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/okc10.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/okc12.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/okc9.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/redline5.jpg

[Bigbegum69]

oh and I had a little run in with an 08 vette with the ls3/6speed auto. heads, cam, headers and stall.. he forgot tires tho...

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[pooprah]

he looks like he hits the breaks you pull so hard

[stylngle2003]

wicked

[Bigbegum69]

got the new 383 in and fired tonight.. took 2 6 hour days to get it built and fired.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/ENGINE.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/INTAKE.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/CARB.jpg

[740ATL]

zoiks! :)

[Bigbegum69]

i am really loving the new motor. it has tons more hp/tq then the old setup. I plan on going to the track sunday... wish me luck

[2turbotoys]

Nice job. I really like the Ronals on that car. Good luck on Sunday!

[Bigbegum69]

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[pooprah]

what happened?

[Bigbegum69]

backfired... could have been for a few reasons... no harm done.

[RvolvoR]

nitrous backfire?

[spruill242]

next time don't make the music so loud...... But very cool non-the-less

[Bigbegum69]

went to the track today.. it ran a 6.68 at 101. 1.49 60ft. old girl picked up the front tires... :oogle:

the transmission is slipping really bad on the 2/3 shift so it is hurting my mph....

i am pretty damn happy right now.

[pooprah]

holy ****. what does that = in 1/4 about?

[Karl Buchka]

That looks to be about a mid 10 second pass.

[dave milliron]

The Bertone is evolving nicely. Can you post some details and pics of the Explorer rear end narrowing. Did you end up using 2 short axles or did you have to do something different?

//dave
--------------------------------------------------------------
'79 Bertone needing inspiration and HP.

[4banged]

bad ass project man! I'll have to make it to a texas meet sometime when mines done!

[Bigbegum69]

bad ass project man! I'll have to make it to a texas meet sometime when mines done!

Cool man.. i know these things seem like black holes but its worth every second of agony once you get it on the street... hope to see you sooner than later!

The Bertone is evolving nicely. Can you post some details and pics of the Explorer rear end narrowing. Did you end up using 2 short axles or did you have to do something different?

//dave
--------------------------------------------------------------
'79 Bertone needing inspiration and HP.

Not a problem...

First here is a comparison of the 8.8 vs. the Dana 30. The larger in each picture is the ford..

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/ringcomparo.jpg

This is the ring gear, diff, and bearings...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/axlecomp.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/axlespline.jpg

Axle Comparison

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/fronttires.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/Front.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/CIMG0723.jpg

Housing Comparison

What I did was buy two Ford explorer rear ends from a truck wreaking yard. I think I payed between $150-200 for each one. The good thing about the late model truck rear ends is they come with 31 spline axles, disc brakes, and larger axle tubes when compared to the passenger car 8.8 rear ends..

Not to mention most of them came with limited slip units from the factory, which is easily identified by a tag on the rear end. It is a metal tag that hangs off a diff cover bolt, L indicates a limited slip. It also says the gears.

First thing was having one rear end shortened on the passenger side so the distance from the center of the diff is equal on both sided.

Then you simply transfer the brackets from the dana 30 to the 8.8 rear end.

Then assemble it using whichever gears you prefer, the limited slip unit, and driver side axles on both sides.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/bead3.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/bead2.jpg

Here is the 8.8 and the robbed dana 31.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/centeraxle.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/VOLVO007.jpg

One last comparison...

If you have any questions feel free...

[bwb3]

Awsome job bro.
Have you done anything to beef up the rear suspension?

[262 grand national]

You should box the lower control arms. John lane was saying somthing about those twisting. I did that on mine did not take to much work. One other thing did you use suburban bils or the hd bils?

[4banged]

are u still running the ford bolt pattern on the rear?

[Bigbegum69]

Awsome job bro.
Have you done anything to beef up the rear suspension?

The only thing I have in the rear is torque arms and a panhard, springs and shocks. For some reason the car just hooks up... thank you mickey thompson

You should box the lower control arms. John lane was saying somthing about those twisting. I did that on mine did not take to much work. One other thing did you use suburban bils or the hd bils?

Yeah it is on the to do list. I am using bils hd's and ipd overload springs

are u still running the ford bolt pattern on the rear?

Yeah, I am still running ford pattern on the rear. That is why I have mismatched wheels. I have already had hubs redrilled for the front so I can run the Ronal r9's all the way around..

its nice to see my thread moving along guys, thanks
Ryan

[norcal505]

wow, this is purely insane.

[Jerd]

haha.. one of my friends from a different forum was like.. DUDE i saw a cool volvo today.. i was like o'rly and he posted this..

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/wyant50/volvo.jpg

[Bigbegum69]

damn thats funny....

[Jerd]

same guy said you lost 100 bucks the other day :P

[Bigbegum69]

yeah i raced a back halved chevy luv truck... full race truck... runs in the 5's... he set me on the back tires and gave me the hit.. he beat me by a fender but he was patting the gas... i was bored and he was the only other car in the staging lanes so i set it up... I had already won 100 that night so i didn't really care... :neener:

[Bigbegum69]

tell your buddy to say whats up next time!

and please don't tell him what I run... this is the only site I post it on!

[RvolvoR]

so youre one of those guys that rolls up w "N/T" on your window?

[Crazychopstick]

You looking for another V8 Bertone?

http://gs70.photobucket.com/groups/i92/AQF5GS6L2C/

He's selling it $4K from College Sation.

[Jerd]

tell your buddy to say whats up next time!

and please don't tell him what I run... this is the only site I post it on!

I will!

I dont, but if hes watching you run doesnt he already know? :-P

[Bigbegum69]

so youre one of those guys that rolls up w "N/T" on your window?

sunday nights at the track they don't even post times... I dont post times unless I am running on motor or ones stage... when I have the car on kill mode it has N/T on the window..

You looking for another V8 Bertone?

http://gs70.photobucket.com/groups/i92/AQF5GS6L2C/

He's selling it $4K from College Sation.

This one gives me enough head aches... :-P

I will!

I dont, but if hes watching you run doesnt he already know? :-P

Cool man... he shouldn't

[Bigbegum69]

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This was a video a guy took from inside is STS-V


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This was a money race at kennedale raceway..

[4banged]

http://www.charliedigital.com/content/binary/comment-friday-damn.jpg

[DecalServiceBrett]

Win

[262 grand national]

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/danacover.jpg

So I found another rear end and had them swapped in about an hour. I had a truetrac sitting around but sold it because I knew the 1031 wouldnt cut it with some sticky tires if it couldnt handle one 205/50/15.


I thinking about redoing my brake lines. I have ford 11" drums, was using the stock set up and I want to go single lines, what did you do for your set up?

[crazy240]

very cool project!!!! i had a 79 262c i blew the engine in and put a 740 turbo engine in there. sold it before i knew i loved the car so much tho. it was silver with black roof and everybody says thats a gangster or mafia car. for your info, 780 wheels look really really good on those cars! the ones with crossing wires like the typical bbs wheel design. hard to find but really do it.

[Bigbegum69]

I thinking about redoing my brake lines. I have ford 11" drums, was using the stock set up and I want to go single lines, what did you do for your set up?

I used the factory brake lines all the way to the valves on the back. I just have stainless lines going from the valves in the back directly to the calipers..

very cool project!!!! i had a 79 262c i blew the engine in and put a 740 turbo engine in there. sold it before i knew i loved the car so much tho. it was silver with black roof and everybody says thats a gangster or mafia car. for your info, 780 wheels look really really good on those cars! the ones with crossing wires like the typical bbs wheel design. hard to find but really do it.

Thats too bad you sold your 262... I had a set of 780 wheels. I really like them but I am changing bolt patterns...

[262 grand national]

so you are not running line lock? You must have a trans brake then?

[volvoman37]

car is beautiful. awesome project and work done on it

[Bigbegum69]

so you are not running line lock? You must have a trans brake then?

No I don't have either... Just hit the nitrous right out of the hole... 150 on the pedal and 275 total on the second stage. 3000stall, 3.27 gears, and 26" mickey drag radials

car is beautiful. awesome project and work done on it

appreciate man... I just keep trying to take it to the next level...

[262 grand national]

No I don't have either... Just hit the nitrous right out of the hole... 150 on the pedal and 275 total on the second stage. 3000stall, 3.27 gears, and 26" mickey drag radials


I will be running 3500 stall , but we have the same gears and tires. What is your speed in the 1/4? Your car comes in at 3200?

[Dug strickler]

Serious stuff... BADA$$!!!

[Bigbegum69]

I will be running 3500 stall , but we have the same gears and tires. What is your speed in the 1/4? Your car comes in at 3200?

my speed in the 1/8 is 108, the quarter mile should be around 135. The nitrous pushes the converter to about 3500, when I footbrake the car it will go to 3000.

Serious stuff... BADA$$!!!

Thanks man... the car is finally sorted out and doing what its supposed to do... but now I am bored. I am going turbo :oogle:

[pooprah]

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[262 grand national]

Thanks man... the car is finally sorted out and doing what its supposed to do... but now I am bored. I am going turbo :oogle: Oh this should be good, Now your going to have some real fun. You should have plenty of room in the front of the motor. Have you figured out your setup at all?

[Bigbegum69]

dart little m block, not sure on the rotating assembly, dart heads, borg warner s480 turbo, th400 trans, blow through carb... I want to make 800 on pump gas, 1000+ on race

[262 grand national]

Your building new? I thought you would use your current block. Its prob better that way anyways for the hp lvl your going for. What kinda time line you thinking of? I posted this link just incase I forgot to tell you about it. Best place I have found for turbo set ups lots go great info and help.

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php

http://bullseye-power.com/images/turbopics/S480RVband.JPG Nice turbo by the way :)

[Bigbegum69]

yea, i think you posted theturboforums link somewhere... I have been reading that website like crazy. I am going to sell my current long block to help finance the new build. I am also having the cage installed and sectioning the rear quarter panels. Then paint..

I hope to have all of the mock up done by April.

[Bigbegum69]

Finally got the coilovers 90% complete and also got my redrilled hubs back.. They look great.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/coilover.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/coilover2.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/hub.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/hub2.jpg

Now I just have to find some wheels I like.

[Crazychopstick]

Got a short vid of your car if you want me to post it.

[Bigbegum69]

fo sho! :)

[4banged]

dart little m block, not sure on the rotating assembly, dart heads, borg warner s480 turbo, th400 trans, blow through carb... I want to make 800 on pump gas, 1000+ on race

boo!

I just updated our overstock list: http://brodix.com/overstock/overstock.html

If you haven't already ordered stuff you might check that out....might find a good deal.

[Bigbegum69]

i havn't ordered anything yet... still working on finishing the suspension... Plus I am not 100% on what motor I want to use, I am also thinking about getting a 6.0/4l80e truck pull out and throwing a turbo on it...

[4banged]

in all honesty i would think a 6.0 would be more streetable. Plus seems like a big block would be way worse on the header issue. Either way it's going to be bad ass!

[262 grand national]

i havn't ordered anything yet... still working on finishing the suspension... Plus I am not 100% on what motor I want to use, I am also thinking about getting a 6.0/4l80e truck pull out and throwing a turbo on it...

Are you thinking the LSX block? You do have the advantage of a light car. Someone was saying that they were going to come out with a 350 lsx style block also. I would think you could find a LSX block in a yard or somthing not to hard to get good numbers with few parts. That blocks crank can handle it too. Threre is some good write up on building one of those blocks too. I will see if I can find it.

[Bigbegum69]

in all honesty i would think a 6.0 would be more streetable. Plus seems like a big block would be way worse on the header issue. Either way it's going to be bad ass!

I agree with a 6.0 being more streetable, I was never planning on going big block though. A little M is just a Dart SBC casting, it is said to be good for 2500hp...

Are you thinking the LSX block? You do have the advantage of a light car. Someone was saying that they were going to come out with a 350 lsx style block also. I would think you could find a LSX block in a yard or somthing not to hard to get good numbers with few parts. That blocks crank can handle it too. Threre is some good write up on building one of those blocks too. I will see if I can find it.

Yea, a 6.0 Iron ls block. I am very familiar with them, I work on them all the time :)

[4banged]

give me a shout whenever you are ready to buy stuff for the motor (if you go sbc/bbc). Maybe we can persuade you to get some brodix stuff :D

[262 grand national]

http://www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/0809sr_building_a_gm_performance_lsx_engine/index.html

I am sure you have read this one, bit on the spendy side but good write up otherwise.

[supraboy]

you cant lose with a turbo LQ9, thats win all-over.:-D

[Bigbegum69]

give me a shout whenever you are ready to buy stuff for the motor (if you go sbc/bbc). Maybe we can persuade you to get some brodix stuff :D

Sweet man, will do... I love brodix parts...

http://www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/0809sr_building_a_gm_performance_lsx_engine/index.html

I am sure you have read this one, bit on the spendy side but good write up otherwise.

Its nice knowing a build like that will be just a drop in once I finish this build...

you cant lose with a turbo LQ9, thats win all-over.:-D

Thats the plan, btw I am going lq4, they have lower compression











here are some pictures of the new rear wheel/tire setup... 17x10.5 295/45/17 tire... its equivalent to a 28x10.5, although its about 27.5" tall

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/03cobra.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/sticket.jpg

The front wheels are at a shop right now getting narrowed to 17x5.5 or 17x6. I am going to run a 205/55/17 which is 26" tall.

[Tom Wiley]

Sweet. What are your goals? In the quarter?

[Bigbegum69]

i want to drive to the track, run a 9 second pass on drag radials and drive home...

[RvolvoR]

blow through....booo....do the truck motor and squirterize it....

[262 grand national]

i want to drive to the track, run a 9 second pass on drag radials and drive home...

I don't think you will have a problem. lol Your only few hundred pounds heavyer than my dads datsun and he does the same thing, 9.92. at sea level that is. :) Drives to the track blows the trailer queens away and drives home 30 min on pump gas.

[4banged]

I agree with a 6.0 being more streetable, I was never planning on going big block though. A little M is just a Dart SBC casting, it is said to be good for 2500hp...



Yea, a 6.0 Iron ls block. I am very familiar with them, I work on them all the time :)

Ohh...i don't know why i thought you were going big block. Another question...how would you fit a turbo manifold on the sbc setup? Would it be any better on a ls setup?

[262 grand national]

he could put some shorty headers on backwards and run the turbo in front. That would be the cheap way out. Thats what we did on the 383.

[4banged]

ahh...nevermind then

[supraboy]

he could do it STS style.

[Bigbegum69]

blow through....booo....do the truck motor and squirterize it....

i am pretty sure I am going with the truck motor. I don't know about ms though. The factory ecu is very capable of doing what I want to do.

I don't think you will have a problem. lol Your only few hundred pounds heavyer than my dads datsun and he does the same thing, 9.92. at sea level that is. :) Drives to the track blows the trailer queens away and drives home 30 min on pump gas.

Thats my favorite thing to do :rofl:

Ohh...i don't know why i thought you were going big block. Another question...how would you fit a turbo manifold on the sbc setup? Would it be any better on a ls setup?

I will probably use stock manifolds flipped around. heres an example

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/ls1frontmount.jpg






And since I am sitting around saving money I figured I would do something with the car... Its not bad, I am using a torch, thinner, putty knifes and wire brushes. Its not a fast process. This took about 2 hours. But it doesn't make a bunch of noise. I wish I could use liquid hydrogen like john lane suggests but it might freak out the neighbors.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/cleanmachin.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/cleanmachin2.jpg

I still have a long way to go...

[262 grand national]

use a gas torch the small ones like for camp stoves or pipe brazing. You warm it up and scrape it off on the really thick stuff. I did that on mine too mine was not as bad though.

[Bigbegum69]

yea, I am using one now... Its not exhausting or anything, just takes a while. At least you get to play with fire.

[Clay]

Can I come and see the Bertone sometime soon? I wanted to see it at the Austin meet, but we had to leave and pick up the broken down 240.

[Bigbegum69]

yea for sure... just send me a pm...

[Clay]

PM'ed.

[Bigbegum69]

got the new block. It is a 6.2 aluminum block out of an 08 escalade (l92). now I just need some 24's :lol:

The inner fender is also clean, I just have to stitch weld it and throw some fresh paint on it. I might use undercoat, but i doubt it.

[Tom Wiley]

got the new block. It is a 6.2 aluminum block out of an 08 escalade (l92). now I just need some 24's :lol:

The inner fender is also clean, I just have to stitch weld it and throw some fresh paint on it. I might use undercoat, but i doubt it.
:) sweet. What turbo?

[Bigbegum69]

borg warner s480, t6 housing... its a big motha

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/s480.jpg

[supraboy]

oh my sweet sweden!!!! 6.2L aluminum turbo ls motor in a 240,
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[4banged]

no joke...thats awesome! Are only the escalade block aluminum or are the truck blocks aluminum also?

[Bigbegum69]

the "l92" 6.2l aluminum motors are out of the escalades and denalis ect, they also have the desirable heads.. most trucks are sold with an iron block. The flex fuel trucks also have an aluminum 5.3 motor.

[262 grand national]

How strong are they compared to the iron blocks? How much weight are you going to add between your current block and the upgrade?

[linuxman51]

i am pretty sure I am going with the truck motor. I don't know about ms though. The factory ecu is very capable of doing what I want to do.



Thats my favorite thing to do :rofl:



I will probably use stock manifolds flipped around. heres an example

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/ls1frontmount.jpg






And since I am sitting around saving money I figured I would do something with the car... Its not bad, I am using a torch, thinner, putty knifes and wire brushes. Its not a fast process. This took about 2 hours. But it doesn't make a bunch of noise. I wish I could use liquid hydrogen like john lane suggests but it might freak out the neighbors.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/cleanmachin.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/cleanmachin2.jpg

I still have a long way to go...



Its fun, isn't it? I did that to the 740 a month or so ago, it took a while and its not perfect, but its a lot better.

I used a can of spray in bed liner for the fender wells, I'm not going to do anything with the rest of it unless it starts to rust, there's paint underneath the undercoating and I left that mostly intact.
If you're not afraid of making a big mess, a wire wheel on a grinder works fairly well, you'll want ear plugs and good eye protection, I also wore long pants and a long sleeved relatively thick shirt. makes a HUGE mess tho, I'll be spending time cleaning the shop as soon as I can roll my pos out.

[Bigbegum69]

How strong are they compared to the iron blocks? How much weight are you going to add between your current block and the upgrade?

According to what I could find, a bare LT1 block weighs 190lbs. My new aluminum block is just under 90lbs. So I figure with a 45lb turbo, and intercooler, ect... I will probably weigh about the same when I am done. Guys are telling me that anything under 1000hp with these aluminum blocks are fine. They have 6 bolt mains and a forged crank.


Its fun, isn't it? I did that to the 740 a month or so ago, it took a while and its not perfect, but its a lot better.

I used a can of spray in bed liner for the fender wells, I'm not going to do anything with the rest of it unless it starts to rust, there's paint underneath the undercoating and I left that mostly intact.
If you're not afraid of making a big mess, a wire wheel on a grinder works fairly well, you'll want ear plugs and good eye protection, I also wore long pants and a long sleeved relatively thick shirt. makes a HUGE mess tho, I'll be spending time cleaning the shop as soon as I can roll my pos out.

Yeah, this sucks... but I want to stitch weld the car, plus I am saving my pennies and not going out so I might as well do it...plus its keeps me excited about the car and doesn't cost much money at all... so for now I am just sitting here scraping gunk and grime off my car... saving money to collect parts.... getting ready to mock everything up....

[262 grand national]

It will be interesting to see how the car holds up, you going to do an 8pt? Oh and how are the upper and lower control arms mount points holding up. :P

[Bigbegum69]

yea, I am doing an 8 pt bar... Just a main hoop. down bars, door bars, and bars to the ds tunnel. Plus sub-frame connectors. Plus stitch welding. It should be pretty stout.

The mount points in the back look good. I will be cleaning all the gunk off soon to get a good look though.

[262 grand national]

If you Go through S$W they keep that on there books for the next person. I know they did a 740 set up, no 240s or bertones for that matter. Sometimes they have pretty good sales though, If it was the right time for me I would have doubled up on getting one from them. Good luck looks good though.

[Bigbegum69]

I am going to have the bars custom bent here in town. There are a couple of places that can do it.

[262 grand national]

At least you can take your car there to have them take the #s and bend the main hoop. You can do the rest pretty easy, I am looking forward to the cage shots. What I wanted to do on mine was the prostreet style, through the speaker trays and tight to the roof and post. I have seen some really tight cages that you could not even see in the car.

[Bigbegum69]

yea, that's the way to do it... plus if you are in a pinch you can still use the back seat...

I snapped some more pictures...
The driver side is clean, i wire wheeled the seams with my angle grinder, I couldn't get all the gunk, I am going to get a wire wheel for a drill and see if I can get the rest... Then I will use my little Hobart Handler 140 to stitch weld the seams.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/driverside2.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/driverside1.jpg

after all that scrapping and cleaning I had to spray some paint.... I bought a can of that hammered finish rustoleam (left side) and some semi-gloss black (right side). I think I am going to do the inner fender in semi-gloss black, then the struts, lower control arms and sway bar in the hammered finish... its a nice finish, It has a lot of metallic in it so I need to be a little more careful when I spray it :)

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/color.jpg

I started cleaning on the passenger side too... it seems like it doesn't have as much undercoat as the other side, maybe I'm crazy.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/passenger-3.jpg

Got the struts and re-drilleed hubs all de-gunked. I still need to figure out a way to make a stop ring for the coil-overs...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/strut.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/hub-1.jpg

And how about so wheel shots... old vs new... 14" stealies with 185/70/14's (laying down). 16x8 Ronal r9's with 255/50/16 Mickey D/R's (honey mustards) and 17x10.5 03 Mustang Cobra wheels with 295/45/17's (polished)

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/wheels1.jpg

And another perspective that is pretty funny

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/wheelcompare.jpg


Let me know what you think!
Ryan

[Captain Bondo]

Sweet man. 8.8+ redriled front hubs is where it's at. Screw wheel adapters!

Are you redrilling the rotors too or are you going to swap to some manner of big ford brakes as well?:oogle:

[Bigbegum69]

Sweet man. 8.8+ redriled front hubs is where it's at. Screw wheel adapters!

Are you redrilling the rotors too or are you going to swap to some manner of big ford brakes as well?:oogle:

AS WELL? sell me some brackets :) sounds like you already have it figured out :nod:

[262 grand national]

I think they have collars that you can tighten over the strut with allen bolt. I would just weld them im place. I think evil genious racing has some stop rings you could buy from him too. You spent way more time on your fender wells than I did. I did paint them gloss black though and they look good enough. :P

[Bigbegum69]

haha... IM BROKE... what else do i have to do... :)

I ordered some trailing arms from kaplehenke :-D, I asked if he could send some stop rings, we will see..

[262 grand national]

haha... IM BROKE... what else do i have to do... :)

I ordered some trailing arms from kaplehenke :-D, I asked if he could send some stop rings, we will see..

I the holy grail of trailing arms. You should hook up really good now, what shocks you going to run. QA1s? :P

[DNAsEqUeNcE]

dude, I want one of those 1000hp capable engines you are talking about...

[Bigbegum69]

the new wheels came in today. I am not sure if I will like them on the car yet. They should look a lot better with Volvo center caps. I want everything to work with standard mustang offset wheels so I am going to use them until later on. Here is the plan for the fronts.

17x9 FR500 Mustang wheels. et26.
They will be narrowed 3 inches to 17x6.
Tires will be 205/55/17.

In stock form I put them on the car using a 1.25" wheel adapter.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/rim1.jpg

They cleared the strut tube with 7/8" clearance
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/rim2.jpg

They also stuck out past the fender about an 1", the suspension was at full droop though..
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/rim3.jpg


So basically when the wheel is narrowed and mounted directly on the hub it should be perfect. They will get sucked in 1.25" and with some negative camber they should suck right inside the wheel well. Plus I will have 2 5/8" clearance between the edge of the wheel and the strut tube. MONEY! :)

[GSWAGON]

Why not run the cobra 5 spoke wheels?

Your car is a beast by the way...my next mod is an 8.8 rearend if this rear breaks again...yours gets out of the hole so quick.

[4banged]

I'm planning on running fr500 wheels eventually. I'm envious at how fast your getting things done

[Captain Bondo]

So basically when the wheel is narrowed and mounted directly on the hub it should be perfect. They will get sucked in 1.25" and with some negative camber they should suck right inside the wheel well. Plus I will have 2 5/8" clearance between the edge of the wheel and the strut tube. MONEY! :)

Sweet man- I pm'ed you. Keep in mind with bigger brakes you might not be able to suck them in as far as you'd like, as you'd need to watch caliper clearance to the spokes with the brembo's.

[Bigbegum69]

Why not run the cobra 5 spoke wheels?

Your car is a beast by the way...my next mod is an 8.8 rearend if this rear breaks again...yours gets out of the hole so quick.

Thanks man... As far as the cobra wheels, I just wanted something that wasn't so recognizable as a mustang wheel. I think with these wheels and Volvo center caps and might throw more people for a loop. Plus I think they look badass...

I'm planning on running fr500 wheels eventually. I'm envious at how fast your getting things done

haha thanks man.. i really like the fr5's... they look like bootleg bbs rk's :lol:

Sweet man- I pm'ed you. Keep in mind with bigger brakes you might not be able to suck them in as far as you'd like, as you'd need to watch caliper clearance to the spokes with the brembo's.

these wheels are designed for caliper clearance, i sent you a pm back... :)



Oh by the way... clean matchin!

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/1full2.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/1full.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/1controlarm.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/1door.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/1hl.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/1strut.jpg



Come to find out I suck at stitch welding... and I like to catch things on fire... all is well though. :rofl:

[RedFridge]

Love your work my friend.

[262 grand national]

so what shocks and springs were you running in the back?

[Bigbegum69]

Love your work my friend.

thank you sir:)

so what shocks and springs were you running in the back?

qa1 coil overs.

[262 grand national]

thank you sir:)



qa1 coil overs.

Before your new set up that is.

[Bigbegum69]

Cut Ipd wagon overloads and bilstein HD's.. and a bunch of spacing mechanisms so the tires wouldn't rub... They are for sale right now...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/REAR-1.jpg

[Bigbegum69]

I got my front wheels back from the wheel shop and they are now narrowed to 17x6 and the 205/55/17 continentals are mounted. It looks sweet. I can't stop smiling. :rofl:

The rotor is a 13" brembo. I am working on the caliper situation right now. :)
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/face.jpg

I have plenty of clearance for the coilover spring
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/clearance-2.jpg

big rotor:oogle:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/caliper.jpg

Big and Littles side by side
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/biglil.jpg


I have my kaplhenke camber plates, 250x12 hypercoil springs, 8" coleman coilover sleaves, bilstien hd's. Waiting on a stop ring to get here from kaplhenke. Its in the same box as my new trailing arms :nod:.

Once they get here I need to weld up the coilovers, paint them, install the new bearings and put them on. Than I will move to the back... Getting closer! I also cleaned and painted the lower control arms and sway bar.. everything will be CLEAN. no more nastyness when i have to crawl under this bitz.

[kyote]

Sweetness!

[supraboy]

dude, your taste is flawless.

[Tom Wiley]

I want more wheelies.

[Bigbegum69]

Sweetness!

werd

dude, your taste is flawless.

thanks man! that's a very very nice thing to say...

I want more wheelies.

working on it... i want 330ft wheelies... :lol:





This system design was posted on ls1tech. It is basically exactly how my setup will be except for the headers. I am going to run stock manifolds that are turned around. But My intercooler will be mounted vertically, my radiator right behind it, then big turbo. pretty cool...

From ls1tech...
I dynoed my 6.0 in a superflow sf-902 engine dyno today.

6.0
9.8cr
E85
S480 1.32/ar turbo

And it made 1170hp/1180ft/lbs at 30-20 psi (dropping on high rpm to loose wastegate springs). And to small intercooler (194 intake temp).
Backpressure is 1:1 compared to boost

But a problem: I couldn´t rev over 6800 rpm, sounds like valvefloat or lifterfloat. I use PRC dual springs kit and LS7 lifters.
What do you think my problem is? I need to rev 7500 rpm.


http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/inter1.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/inter2.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/bigbegum/inter3.jpg



I want to run a large pipe into the inner fender on the drivers side for a gigantic air filter and a 5 inch downpipe, reduced to a 4 inch downpipe should work going down the passenger side of the motor and under the car.

[Crazychopstick]

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[WeezilUSA]

Thats pretty sweet! You're not tube framing the front are you?

[262 grand national]

Sounds pretty good in the vid. There is one buick guy that runs 3 mufflers on his car. When you walk by the car you can not even tell its running and he runs in the low tens with it. Looks like your car not going to be much of a sleeeper anymore. :P

[Da_Folvo]

^Seconded. May I suggest some mufflers and an electronic cutout for it?

Still, that car just oozes badassedness. I think it's cemented my idea to buy a Bertone after reading this thread, even though I might go another route with the enigne.

[Tom Wiley]

Anything new on this one?

[Mark]

Bmup for updates...

M.

[2fast242gt]

hows he a douche? btw what have you done? lets see your car and your mods. bet you couldnt touch 1/2 the cars on the board.

[thebornotaku]

Will you please finish the car so you can embarrass this guy http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=158835 He seems a major douche, especially considering his car only makes 500 horses on a freaking twin turbo setup.
BUMP For updates!

somebody needs to learn to read.

he made, as near as makes no difference, 550hp on the stock LS1 with no turbos.

Also, by what merits do you think he's a douche?

How about you talk **** once your car makes even half that?

[Quattro]

^Tb at its best :-D

[klr142]

Oh Brian(1983turbo242)... :roll::pow::poo::pat: How it pains me to think that I "introduced" you to Volvos sometimes...

[745 TurboGreasel]

I never said anything about what is done to my car or not. I was just saying that he opens the post about his car talking about all the shows and mags it has been in. 99% of guys talk about what is done to their car first.

In the 2008 season alone, the car has been in over 30 car shows<--- Lines like this make you a D bag. Or just severly ego wonked.
Maybe it would...If he hadn't been a member, pretty humble and real about his build and results in the 5 YEARS leading up to that post!

Still, I thought the callout was truly hilarious:)

[FunkyStankyChicken]

Wtf are you doing deuching all over this guys project thread talking about your own unrelated build.

[supraboy]

oh, look, a sparrow.