Chips for redblocks showcase car

[frpe82]

The new chips for redblocks showcase car:

http://hem.bredband.net/fredrik-persson/Turbobricks/The_V90.JPG

CAR:

1998 Volvo V90.

175.000 km (108.000 miles) as of September 2008.

* Leather seats.
* Grey interior with wood panels.
* 3rd row seats (now removed to save weight).
* Volvo SC-805 stereo and 8 speakers.

Weighing in at a tad above 1800 kg (3968 lbs).
Don't say it... I know...

ENGINE MODS:

B6304FS2, 3.0L 24v.

* Motronic 4.4 with special Hi-Tuning (http://www.hi-tuning.com/) chip. Custom map for 100+ octane (for 105 octane E85 / 100 octane V-power).
* 297cc/min -831 (T6) injectors (running E85).
* Slightly modified B6304FS1 cams (the 204HP cams).
* JR cone filter.
* Extractor manifolds (headers), modified from BMW M3 upgrade headers.
* Dual 2.5" downpipes.
* 3" 300-cell metallic cat.
* 2.5" straight-through exhaust system.

Planned upgrades:

* Performance intake manifold.

Expected power when done: 270-300HP

GEARBOX/DRIVELINE:

M90L2 manual gearbox.

* CNC'd ultra-light 240mm TTV Racing (http://www.ttvracing.com/) flywheel.
* 850R stock clutch setup.
* Craving Boost (http://www.cravingboost.com/) short-shifter.
* IRSIII rear, still unknown ratio.
* Some kind of locker, but may contain a LSD.

SUSPENSION / CHASSIS:

Front suspension:

GEM 30% harder shocks.
GEM Lowering springs, 55mm.

Rear suspension:

GEM 30% harder shocks.
Harder composite leaf spring from Volvo (part of sport chassis kit accessory).
Thick (21mm) upgrade anti-roll bar (part of sport chassis kit accessory).

WHEELS/TIRES:

Summer wheels/tires:

Ace Caipirinha black/chrome 8*19".
BF-Goodrich G-Force Profiler 235/35R19 91Y.

Winter wheels/tires:

Volvo Prospero 7*15".
Pirelli Winter Carving 195/65 (now de-studded).

BRAKES:

* Stock brakes.
* Steel-braided brake lines on all 4 brakes.

Planned upgrades:

* Brembo Silverline slotted discs.
* Remsa sport brake pads.

* Even some nice color for the calipers if I want it to be noticed a little bit more.

"STAGE 0" and extensions:

* Just swapped the cam belt, tensioner, all rollers, accessory belt, tensioner and all rollers.

* New hydraulic lifters.

* New seals where ever I have been able to put my hands on the engine.

* LS05 O2-sensors. Modern design / modern technology.

* NGK Iridium (BPR6EIX) spark plugs.

* Soyafilm window tint (80% black) for all the seven rear windows.

* Turbobricks.com and Hi-Tuning.com stickers discretely installed on the rear windows.

The progress of this new car starts around post 153 in this thread.





















The old project car which got fixed and sold:

This car served me well, and it was fast as hell. I really enjoyed taking it around Nürburg ring in the summer of 2008. Even at the mere 0.6 bar of boost I had at that time, it ran extremely good.

When the boost was raised to ~1.4 bar, the car became a monster.

I have no idea how much power it had, but definitely well above 300HP. Too bad I never got to prove that on paper.

The car made over 260km/h (proven by GPS) on the Autobahn and on Nürburg ring when the rev-limiter kicked in, so it definitely had some power.

The engine started acting up as soon as I got home from the EU3.0 meet this summer. The engine started consuming coolant and mixing it with the oil. Not even a new headgasket fixed it, so I guess the head or the block cracked. I can not see anything visually though.

The camshaft ate itself and one lobe got destroyed.

The turbo works really good and it looks brand new since it only has 4500km on it, but it has a lot of play. The play is probably due to the oil/coolant mixing f-ing up the bearings. Otherwise it is fine and it will get sold as well.

Peter (Fivehundred on the forum) was kind enough to give me a new engine. A B200FT which got installed together with a T3 turbo (.48 exhaust and 60-trim compressor). Almost all of the other goodies that has not been sold on Turbobricks already, were sold with the car. The car also got a set of 400cc/min injectors and converted back to gasoline again. The expected power output of the car when I sold it was 230HP+.

The new owner of this car is really happy with it I guess, since it was a dream to drive it, and it stayed that way with the B200FT and the new smaller turbo, albeit the lower power output.

I am crying inside, but it is time to move on...

My car, my project: The "Chips for redblocks" showcase car:

http://hem.bredband.net/fredrik-persson/Turbobricks/My%20car.JPG

CAR:

1998 Volvo 945 Classic.

345.000 km (213.000 miles) as of September 2008.

Leather seats.
Grey interior with wood panels.

ENGINE MODS:

B230FT4.
Running on E85.

Hi-Tuning 984 fuel and ignition chips. Modified ECU.
Garrett T3/T4 hybrid, 60 trim, .65 A/R stage III wheel @ 1.4bar (20psi) of boost.
ATP ultimate wastegate housing and Turbosmart single stage MBC.
Forge 007P diverter valve.
3" downpipe, 3" race-cat, 3" exhaust system.
KG2T camshaft.
Delta-fin design 31" x 12" x 3" eBay IC.
3" AMM (012).
788cc/min (75lb/hr) Siemens injectors.
Walbro GSS342 255LPH in-tank fuel pump.
JR air filter and heat-shield.
Summit digital CDI box.
MSD Blaster high vibration coil.

GEARBOX/DRIVELINE:

M90L2 manual gearbox.
Dog-dish flywheel, lightened.
940 TDi 228mm clutch plate.
Strengthened 228mm pressure plate (Sachs, 763).

1041 rear, 3.73:1.

SUSPENSION:

GEM Lowering springs, 40mm (1.6").
GEM 30% harder shocks.

(I am sorry that I only have pictures from before the car got lowered)

WHEELS/TIRES:

Summer wheels/tires:
Pegasus "R" 7.5*17".
Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD-3 ZR 225/45.

Winter wheels/tires:
Prospero 7*15".
Pirelli Winter Carving 195/65 studded.

Spacers, 20mm (3/4").

BRAKES:

Brembo Silverline slotted discs.
Sport brake pads.
Steel-braided brake lines on all 4 brakes.

"STAGE 0" and extensions:

Except for everything obvious like regulary replacing belts, spark plugs, cap, rotor, wires,
new waterpump, new radiator, fresh gaskets, cleaning the IC etc. etc. that I always do...

New crank sensor (neccesary when running a high HP engine IMO).
New coolant sensor (same statement as above, and 1992+ sensors rock btw...).
New LS02 narrowband O2-sensor (once again the same statement, and this sensor is much
better too).

Snowcap.

And of course, Turbobricks.com stickers discretely installed on the rear windows.

[boosted12a]

nice! whare are the engine pics tho???

[frpe82]

nice! whare are the engine pics tho???
The engine bay really looks nice, but it was dirty now so I didn´t take any pictures.

All the hoses abd pipes are black and the metal parts are nice and shiny. It actually looks almost brand new (except for the dirt now then...).

[impulse922]

Your car been lowered?

[frpe82]

Your car been lowered?
No. It is at standard height right now.
(Not for long...)

[impulse922]

No. It is at standard height right now.
(Not for long...)
i didnt think it was :-P
Looks good, we need engine bay pics!!

[BB-Q]

Very clean looking car, Fred :)

[740ATL]

Hey Fred, that's a nice ride. very clean. Just begging to be lowered tho. :)

[stylngle2003]

looks almost matte black in the picture....i like!

[SwedishBrick242...]

Gorgeous wagon :)

[hockey930]

you have just been stopped by the lowering police... Beautiful car though, I really like it.
Eamonn

[940T_Drifter]

Very nice !!!

[83' Turbo]

def looking good there

[MikeSr.]

Nice ride, Fred- looks like Mikey's wife's car

[acbarnett]

I miss my ecodes

that's a real pretty looking car too...

[frpe82]

Thank you everyone!
I am very pleased with it. But it needs a new (larger) turbo and new brakes to stop the monster while it´s plowing the Swedish highways.

One of the exhaust manifold gaskets are leaking and I get a shudder in the steering wheel while braking.

Nice ride, Fred- looks like Mikey's wife's car
Are you calling my car a girlie car there...

j/k

Thanks!

[acbarnett]

the shudder in the steering happens to my mom's car too

I have 17" pegasus wheels on my 940, and I only get a side-side wobble while braking...

[MikeJr.]

Awesome pics Fred! Your car looks bad ass! I can't wait to fly over and see it in person :-P .

[BiG_BrIcK_240]

Helloooooooo new wallpaper

[Itsya36]

wow,, will you please look at my question, with all those pictures and knowledge,, perhaps you would know? about the no voltage from power stage to ignition coil? I have a 1990 Volvo Turbo Sedan, and it is really beautiful too. izzy
(user Itsya36)

[ikyikthe1st]

New wallpaper for me too. That's pretty much where I want to go with my 745, body-wise, I love the Pegs!

[Aoder1]

old thread resurrection! thats how we do boys!

[frpe82]

old thread resurrection! thats how we do boys!
I don´t mind :-D

[JW240]

we want updates Fred! :-D

[V Tuning S70]

oh very nice.

[frpe82]

we want updates Fred! :-D
It is now lowered 2" with sport springs and 30% harder sport shocks with adjusted working range to match the springs.

M90L2, lightened flywheel and a nice clutch will be installed soon too.

And the wastegate actuator will be replaced. I think the membrane in the actuator went to hell today. The boost has gotten lower and lower over the past few days so I have been forced to adjust the boost controller accordingly. I can not get stable boost either. It overshoots and then lands on a lower setting than the previous run etc. And no, there are no faults with the lines or boost controller, and there are no leaks. The wastegate just quit on me.

A new Mitsubishi 0.8 or 1bar wastegate will be purchased.

[frpe82]

Today the summer wheels was put on the car again. This time with two new tires. I wore the two front tires out this fall because of poor front-end alignment. It only took 2000 miles to wear them down enough not to be driveable anymore.

So... two brand new 225/45/17 tires was mounted, and the rear axle got the new tires since I moved the (evenly worn) rear tires to the front. The tires that are now in the front only has 2000 miles on them so the difference from the brand new tires is not very big.

http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07133/DSC00276.JPG (http://xs.to)

The Goodyear tires are of the best quality and cost me $200/each, and now I had to buy two more... (FTL!).

It was washed very good tonight, and here´s the pics:

Please excuse the poor image quality from my phone. It´s not so good in the dark.

http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07133/DSC00286.JPG (http://xs.to)
http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07133/DSC00287.JPG (http://xs.to)

The light at the gas station made my car look old and very gray/green...
The bumpers are actually pitch black, even though it doesn´t look like it.

http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07133/DSC00288.JPG (http://xs.to)
http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07133/DSC00289.JPG (http://xs.to)

And the engine shot:

http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07133/DSC00290.JPG (http://xs.to)

[suterman]

very nice fred!



Eggcrate grill and bigger I/C next:)

[frpe82]

Eggcrate grill and bigger I/C next:)
Eggcrate grill, yes.

Big IC, not at this moment, no.

Why?

Three reasons: Money, money, and also money...

I am running E85 so I will be relatively fine for now (the E85 cooling properties in mind), but the power will obviously go up with a bigger IC of course.

[Alex Buchka]

Fan vilka små fälgar du har :-P

Den ser grym ut, väldigt smakfull med sänkningen.

[frpe82]

Fan vilka små fälgar du har :-P
En kompromiss mellan väghållning och komfort faktiskt.

Den är stenhård i upphängningen redan nu (Sänkningsfjädrar som är hårda som satan + 30% hårdare sportstötdämpare med modifierat arbetsområde, gjort för att passa fjädrarna).

Den ser grym ut, väldigt smakfull med sänkningen.
Tackar! :)

Mitt 3" avgassystem tar dock i nu...

[BDKR]

How's that 100amp alternator working out for ya? I just picked one up out of a boneyard the other day. I really need the extra juice as the 80amp unit just can't hang when you have the lights on, the stereo going, and the electric fan kicks in.

[Dr Dokeh]

Looking good Fred, seeing that has made me want to go and work on mine! :-D

[frpe82]

How's that 100amp alternator working out for ya? I just picked one up out of a boneyard the other day. I really need the extra juice as the 80amp unit just can't hang when you have the lights on, the stereo going, and the electric fan kicks in.
100amp alternator is standard on all 1998 940 Classic´s. :neener:

[BDKR]

100amp alternator is standard on all 1998 940 Classic´s. :neener:

Well, I have one now. ;-)

[HRPufNStuf]

And standard on 780s from introduction of the model.........


100amp alternator is standard on all 1998 940 Classic´s. :neener:

[Aoder1]

looking great fred!

[Crazychopstick]

WOW! That looks awesome with the drop.

[frpe82]

Awesome weather yesterday, and it continued today with even more heat.

http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07135/DSC00298.JPG (http://xs.to)

[RedFridge]

More outdoor pictures of the homeland !!

Nice looking car my friend.

[BDKR]

Awesome weather yesterday, and it continued today with even more heat.

http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07135/DSC00298.JPG (http://xs.to)

Killer pic! That's now in my Background rotation at work. :)

[v40jlt4]

Damn those wheels look good on a 940! Me wants!

[frpe82]

I have to say again though, that I am sorry for the bad camera pics.

Everything is good about my Sony Ericsson W850i but the camera.

[JW240]

very nice....

[frpe82]

Oh yah... updated the first post in the thread to include the mods.

Now with more 3" AMM and 75lb/hr injector goodness...

Booyah!!! :oogle:

[frpe82]

And if a mod feels like it belongs in the projects section, then please feel free to move it.

[1stRaven]

And if a mod feels like it belongs in the projects section, then please feel free to move it.

I think it is a pretty good idea. Nice car too.

[frpe82]

So...

Let me tell you about my AW71L:

The gearbox is in very good shape, has been flushed and checked regularly etc.

I still think that it is a miracle that it has been able to survive so far...

I always shift the gearbox manually if I am about to do some spirited driving. I do this for two reasons. Because the line pressure will always be at its maximum in "1" and "2", and I also want to control when and how it should shift. I don´t want the gearbox to slip between the gears (as it definitely does with what I think is well over 300HP).

Today I did three spirited runs (short but pretty hard), and let the gearbox shift automatically just to see what it thought about it. I have never done that before (EDIT:// yes, I have always been careful with my gearbox even though I have had a lot of power for quite some time now). Bad, bad, bad...

Now 2nd gear slips out of control at even the slightest throttle input while the gearbox is in "D". Now I definitely have to shift it manually until my M90L2 is installed.

I will try to get it installed within 2 weeks. That is the plan anyway.

And I will also add more pictures to the first post in this thread.

[norcal505]

automatic???
Why??
Why??
WHY!!!???!!!

[frpe82]

Yup. It happened.

My AW71L exploded in a cloud of smoke and oil...

I have no pictures because my cell had a dead battery.

I did not drive it hard (at that time). It started with the fact that I basically turned around in a parking lot. When I visited my friend in the neighbouring town, the car shuddered horribly when I put it in reverse to get out of the parking lot. No throttle input or any violent moves were made.

Then... when I put it in D, the gearbox was shuddering, whining and kinda' "kicking" the car forward in small increments. I had to have over 4000rpm to get it to move as well. Once it was rolling it went forward, so that was ok. It started slipping and sounding more and more horrible on my way home and I had to put it against the rev limiter several times to get it to propel the car.

Then, 90km/h... rev limiter, booooom, bang, biiiiiiig cloud of smoke behind the car, lots of flames out the exhaust (said the guy in the car behind me, and I saw a few flames myself as well). Oil everywhere and the gearbox was siezed for good.

I am trying out a higher rev limit for thelostartof by the way... and the fact that I have enough torque to smoke the rubber at high speeds doesn´t help the AW71L either.

I had to call Falck roadside service from my work cell to get them to lift my car on to their truck and drive it where I wanted it to be dropped off.
They were fast too. It only took 25 minutes for them to arrive.

Then we drove it to where I will be when I am going to swap the gearbox. The shop next door to my job.

It cost me 250€ ($300+ for you US guys).

No damage to the car of course. Just the gearbox. But it is unfortunate that it had to die before I swapped the gearbox for my M90L2. I do have to get to work somehow.

Today I had to use my work truck to drive home. Iveco Daily HPT (aka: expensive to drive).

The gearbox swap was planned to take place on August 3rd-4th. I can´t do it before that because my lightened flywheel doesn´t arrive until the day before the swap.

EDIT:// FFS!!! :grrr:

[frpe82]

Oh yeah... this is what the transmission was like a few days before the "accident":

Please allow Youtube to process the video. It has just been uploaded so it might not show up just yet.

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Slipping like a mofo.

When it grabs the second time I get on the throttle, it accelerates pretty good I think.

[frpe82]

This week is dedicated to swapping in the new transmission.

I will do a little bit each day after work at the shop next door to ours.

The flywheel will be here by Thursday and on Friday/Saturday the actual swap will take place.

I hope that I can get all the nuts and bolts on time.
I need to make a list of it all to bring with me to Volvo...

[frpe82]

The AW71L, flexplate, TC, driveshaft and the oil lines are out of the car now.

The TC was lodged in there pretty good btw.

Messy as hell. And it got late as hell too (00.30am before a long work day on Friday FTL...).

Oh, and did I mention that the TC was pretty much lodged in there. Damn it took a lot of effort to get it out.

I know what caused the gearbox to fail. The TC was totally f-ed up and the 2nd gear clutch-pack was in pieces.

[@5sn6s]

really nice looking ride Fred!! Looks almost as good as your sister! :-P :-P

It confirms what i have long thought - that a nice looking late 9 series wagon is THE best looking Volvo!

[frpe82]

The M90L2 gearbox, lightened flywheel, clutch and strengthened pressure plate is in.

Some problems occurred for some reason, but those will be worked out soon enough.

Thread about it here: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=108878

Peace :)

[frpe82]

I am still waiting for my slotted Brembo discs and high temperature sport brake pads. It seems like they are a little bit slow in Italy at the moment for reasons I do not know...

It is going to be soo sweet once installed though :-D

[suterman]

I command you to post vids of pulls with the m90.









:-P

[frpe82]

I command you to post vids of pulls with the m90.









:-P
Haha... as soon as I can get the car stopped as well, or else I have to post it from the hospital.

And I also need to cure the slight misfire up top that I am having.

[initialD]

love your tic :)

but do you put an 5gear on it or is still automatic?

[frpe82]

love you tic :)

but do you put an 5gear on it or is still automatic?
No, it is an M90L2 5-spd manual gearbox. :)

[initialD]

some day mine is going to be like your :)

mean machine :)
:cool:

[DecalServiceBrett]

VIDDARZ WITH M90L2 PLEEZUMZ!!!!!11one

[frpe82]

VIDDARZ WITH M90L2 PLEEZUMZ!!!!!11one
Yeah, soon.

[frpe82]

I made some updates to the first post about my future plans.

More will be added in the next few days too :)

[JW240]

nice engine, i wonder where you got such a rare engine :rockon:

[frpe82]

nice engine, i wonder where you got such a rare engine :rockon:
Hehe... I will make a thread about that too when time permits me to do so ;-)

[HonestJhon]

holy crap fred!


the showcase car will be even MORE of a beast!

[HonestJhon]

oh, and why a gt28?
why not a gt30? or even a gt35...? trying to stay in lower rpm boost range?

[Ruben]

oh, and why a gt28?
why not a gt30? or even a gt35...? trying to stay in lower rpm boost range?

a GT30 or bigger would not be very driveable on a 2liter engine using factory ems......maybe thats's why:-P

[Dr Dokeh]

This is gonna be awesome Fred :-D

What are those extra bits in the ECU for? top seekrit hax0rz? :oogle:

[frpe82]

oh, and why a gt28?
why not a gt30? or even a gt35...? trying to stay in lower rpm boost range?

a GT30 or bigger would not be very driveable on a 2liter engine using factory ems......maybe thats's why:-P
Yeah, what ruben said.

And the EMS doesn't make a difference when it comes to turbo choice unless you want to use some anti-lag function or something.

[frpe82]

holy crap fred!


the showcase car will be even MORE of a beast!
Yes :cool:

[frpe82]

This is gonna be awesome Fred :-D

What are those extra bits in the ECU for? top seekrit hax0rz? :oogle:
Yes to that as well :cool:

Nah... it is an AMM compensation circuit. Not so much to alter the fuel flow, but to trick the EZK to give me more ignition advance for E85 by fooling the ECU that it is flowing a little bit less than it is.

[frpe82]

Any tips and suggestions on exhaust housing size for my upcoming setup?

This is what I wrote in my first post:

Turbo choice: Garrett GT2871R.
71mm/56 trim .60 A/R compressor housing.
53.85mm/76 trim .64 or .86 A/R turbine housing (still undecided... any tips?).
T3 turbine inlet flange, 5-bolt T3/T4 discharge for external wastegate.
ATP ultimate wastegate with V-band.


As you have guessed I am not looking for 13c-like spool :-P

What I need though, is full boost by 3500-4000rpm. Is that possible with .86 A/R ???

[frpe82]

VIDDARZ WITH M90L2 PLEEZUMZ!!!!!11one
Here are the videos from three weeks ago with special E85 chips and just 0.7bar (10-11psi) of boost (and M90L2 of course):

Acceleration run, pretty carefully executed and only ~0.7bar (10-11psi) of boost. Pulls through the gears without tapering off.

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Acceleration in higher gears. Still ~0.7bar (10-11psi) of boost.

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And this is a new one taken a few days ago:

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[stylngle2003]

bigger A/R=bigger top end giggles. that thing will spool so quick you wont notice the loss in spool

[frpe82]

bigger A/R=bigger top end giggles. that thing will spool so quick you wont notice the loss in spool
Yeah, flow is more important to me than quick spool.

So .86 A/R then...???

Should I do that?

[frpe82]

Another two videos:

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[blkaplan]

get enough power to do a burnout yet :-P

[frpe82]

get enough power to do a burnout yet :-P
Expensive tires.

And where did this "burnout" request start? Did I fail to deliver last summer or what was it? I can't remeber.

[Ruben]

Well the US guys have burnouts. We have Freifahrt around the corner (well I do). I know which one I'll take:-P

[frpe82]

I've made up my mind.

My Garrett GT2871R will have a .86 A/R turbine housing.

Flow is my highest priority. Not spool time.

[frpe82]

I really need a set of Penta cams.

Someone have a set or know where I can get a set?

[Hagar17]

I just noticed your car is a '98 ! sry no cams..

[blkaplan]

Expensive tires.

And where did this "burnout" request start? Did I fail to deliver last summer or what was it? I can't remeber.

I believe the request was at Vallakra last year when everyone was doing burnouts in Helsinborg. You said the car wasn't tuned well enough to do a burnout :rofl:

[frpe82]

I just noticed your car is a '98 ! sry no cams..
I don't really understand...

[frpe82]

If all else fails, I will have a set of B234F cams re-ground to my specs.

[RvolvoR]

If all else fails, I will have a set of B234F cams re-ground to my specs.

or talk to KG about their cam sets they just came out with or Cat Cams about theirs

[frpe82]

Hmmm... A set of re-ground cams it is. It would be sweet if I could buy a set from Enem, but they cost a little bit too much to fit in my budget even though I want them sooooooo bad.

[frpe82]

Today I started writing things down that I need for my engine from VADIS. Mostly gaskets and stuff.

I wonder what the bill from Volvo will land on...?

[DaButcher]

Today I started writing things down that I need for my engine from VADIS. Mostly gaskets and stuff.

I wonder what the bill from Volvo will land on...?
I too have invested a lot in OEM parts :S
When they say "oh, not you again" when you enter the dealer, it's never a good sign.

[frpe82]

I too have invested a lot in OEM parts :S
When they say "oh, not you again" when you enter the dealer, it's never a good sign.
I get that a lot.

Usually it is like this: I enter the store. I walk into the office of my favourite Volvo person. She goes "Oh no, not you again" and sighs. "I need to put on a pot of coffee, please hold on". Then I usually stay a while. When I leave she usually tells me not to come back, but deep down inside she is happy that I have bought stuff for mucho dinero.

They even know me by name now, and I never have to tell them what kind of car I drive or what equipment I've got. They even know that it is run on E85 and has a lot of HP.

The thing is that I usually never want anything related to my car or engine in particular, but just a lot of odd stuff. That confuses them, but it is probably more irritating than that when I say that I want some strange parts not related to my car, and they have already opened my vehicle profile in VIDA and they need to redo it again :-P

[DaButcher]

I get that a lot.

Usually it is like this: I enter the store. I walk into the office of my favourite Volvo person. She goes "Oh no, not you again" and sighs. "I need to put on a pot of coffee, please hold on". Then I usually stay a while. When I leave she usually tells me not to come back, but deep down inside she is happy that I have bought stuff for mucho dinero.

They even know me by name now, and I never have to tell them what kind of car I drive or what equipment I've got. They even know that it is run on E85 and has a lot of HP.

The thing is that I usually never want anything related to my car or engine in particular, but just a lot of odd stuff. That confuses them, but it is probably more irritating than that when I say that I want some strange parts not related to my car, and they have already opened my vehicle profile in VIDA and they need to redo it again :-P
lol, it's the same here :-) whiteblock in 79' 242 you know. hahaha..
"which car you got?"
"ehh. 1979 volvo 242"

"which engine?"
hhaha

[JW240]

They even know me by name now, and I never have to tell them what kind of car I drive or what equipment I've got.

yeah same here, they know us by name (even the dealer across the border). they dont know which car since there are a few to choose from :-D


The thing is that I usually never want anything related to my car or engine in particular, but just a lot of odd stuff. That confuses them, but it is probably more irritating than that when I say that I want some strange parts not related to my car, and they have already opened my vehicle profile in VIDA and they need to redo it again :-P

sounds familiar too :-D

[frpe82]

I bought a delta fin design IC on eBay.

Overall Size: 31" x 12" x 3"
Core Size: 24" x 12" x 3"

http://hem.bredband.net/fredrik-persson/Turbobricks/IC.jpg
http://hem.bredband.net/fredrik-persson/Turbobricks/Endtank.jpg
http://hem.bredband.net/fredrik-persson/Turbobricks/Fins.jpg

People say that the delta fin IC's are better than the usual simpler bar and plate IC's. I hope that there is some truth to that. It looks like a fairly efficient design though.

And please vote on what you think of my thread :-P

[Homer]

Can't wait to ride in the wagon...

[shellshock]

Take LOTS of good pictures for me when you install that Fred! You are keeping the AC, right?

[frpe82]

Take LOTS of good pictures for me when you install that Fred! You are keeping the AC, right?
Yes, and yes.

[frpe82]

Since the seller would not ship it to an address outside the US, I got Jacob (Homer) to buy a Forge bypass valve for me last night / early this morning and it will be sent to me soon.

Yay, more and more parts are coming together.

Thanks Jacob.

[BB-Q]

Is the engine in yet?

[frpe82]

Is the engine in yet?
No. I still need all the gaskets, belts and bolts for it along with some motor mounts, a new turbo etc. etc.

Do you not read the first post where the progress is listed? :-P

[linuxman51]

what cam specs are you going to be using? (and any word on anyone using the enem cams yet?)

[frpe82]

what cam specs are you going to be using? (and any word on anyone using the enem cams yet?)
I will have the duration and the overlap adjusted slightly, but other than that, I will be satisfied.

I know that the overlap can be adjusted with adjustable cam gears, but think about the duration before and after the overlap. That is what have to be adjusted. If I adjust the overlap with cam gears, the opening and closing of the cams will be moved further away or closer together, and that is not always desireable.

And no, I do not know anyone using them yet. I would sure like to know how they perform though. I am very curious.

[BB-Q]

Do you not read the first post where the progress is listed? :-P

there's a list? :-P

[frpe82]

I wrote to ATP turbo quite some time ago (over a month), and they still have not got back to me.

I asked them if they could fix me a T3/T4E 50-trim with stage III .63 A/R turbine.

It is quite a bit cheaper in the US than here.

[frpe82]

They could not get me a T3/T4E 50-trim with stage III .63 A/R turbine unfortunately.

I still made a $1233.85 order with them though, so next week will be exciting.

I will try the T3/T4E 60-trim with stage III .63 A/R turbine instead.

[frpe82]

I went to the dealer with a list of parts. Nothing particular. Some mounts, gaskets, nuts, bolts, etc. etc. The only thing that would be expensive was the new alternator (or so I thought)...

And the bitches at Volvo handed me the list with all the prices and availability filled out.

6350 USD!!!

So the 16vT will have to be up and running in 2009 instead of this year.

I will upgrade my B230 in the meantime.

[Lord Tentacle]

I went to the dealer with a list of parts. Nothing particular. Some mounts, gaskets, nuts, bolts, etc. etc. The only thing that would be expensive was the new alternator (or so I thought)...

And the bitches at Volvo handed me the list with all the prices and availability filled out.

6350 USD!!!

So the 16vT will have to be up and running in 2009 instead of this year.

I will upgrade my B230 in the meantime.

PM me with what you need
will get it for cheap and can send it your way for cheap

and WTH do you need a new alt for?

[frpe82]

PM me with what you need
will get it for cheap and can send it your way for cheap

and WTH do you need a new alt for?
I have a B204FT. Those are not really plentiful, and definitely not outside Europe.

The alternator cost close to 650 USD, but the rest cost 5700 USD (for the nuts and bolts and mounts and gaskets).

They even have to make some of it from scratch since those parts do not exist as spare parts.

[volvo78244]

Wow, that's a bummer Fred! I don't know if I can help you out with getting the parts you need? There are still a few 204's out here.

[frpe82]

Wow, that's a bummer Fred! I don't know if I can help you out with getting the parts you need? There are still a few 204's out here.
It is quite a big list of parts that I need. mostly small things though. But since this will be a project that will finish the summer of 2009, we can take it slow.

I will collect parts now and then from different places, and i will probably use you Dutch and Belgian guys a litlle I guess. :)

[frpe82]

Anyway...

One thing that happened that was really convenient was this: yesterday when I was about to park the car in the shop to get the manifold and turbo off, I took a small drive first. i wanted to do this because it is so much easier to get the nuts off the manifold if it is warm (and drenched in rust solvent a few times before that).

I took a drive down the street and then turned back. I hit the throttle a little and it acelerated really good, although it was blowing smoke out the back.

Then suddenly... PHEEEEEEEEUUUUUUHHHHHTSCH-whistle-whistle...

I didn't know what it was until I got the IC out of the car (replacing it with the IC in my first post :-D ). The IC had cracked from the top right side almost all the way across the tube. It had also cracked the side where it meets the end-tank.

No biggie. It was going to be replaced anyway.

But when i removed the manifold and turbo today I discovered why the IC cracked. The wastegate flapper was siezed in the closed position so the turbo boosted as much as it could. Luckily I run on E85 so that was why my rods did not come out of the block.

But what caused it to sieze? It turns out that coolant that gets left in the turbo after a headgasket fails, plus the fact that it was blowing oil, actually made a big hard mess that got stuck around the axle for the wastegate flapper.

[volvorsport]

fred , 16v gaskets are cheap enough , i got all mine from volvo .

anything you want to pick up while your in the UK ?

[frpe82]

Oh... and I also did my first ghetto mod on my car. It looked so nice that I will probably use it.

Since all the machine shops here are closed and the employees are on holiday, I can't get my collector flange on the 90+ milled flat. So I did it myself. And I did it with an angle grinder, file and sanding paper.

I checked the surface to be straight with a trustworthy short stainless steel ruler. That should be suficcient, right?

The manifold is badly cracked though, so i am having second thoughts about using it. You can se through the crack in the collector, and the collector flange has a crack in it too.

[frpe82]

fred , 16v gaskets are cheap enough , i got all mine from volvo .

anything you want to pick up while your in the UK ?
Yeah, i know. The 16vT gasket was just 50€ so that was not really a bloody price.

[volvorsport]

if you use a gasket fred , that flange should be ok , i did that on my 8v no problem , manifold still going strong(sat on a bench)!

whats the chance of you bringing something from sten for me ?

[frpe82]

if you use a gasket fred , that flange should be ok , i did that on my 8v no problem , manifold still going strong(sat on a bench)!

whats the chance of you bringing something from sten for me ?
What do you want?

[volvorsport]

probably an oil pump , bearings gaskets etc !!!!

stens prices are cheaper than here .

not sure on rods/pistons - dpends on the customer .

[frpe82]

probably an oil pump , bearings gaskets etc !!!!

stens prices are cheaper than here .

not sure on rods/pistons - dpends on the customer .
If he is not on vacation, and if he can ship it quick enough, then sure.

[Dr Dokeh]

6350 USD!!!

:wtf:

I know Volvo can be expensive, but god damn!

[suterman]

Fred,

I have a complete b234f alternator/steering pump bracket (including the alternator and pump) if they are any use to you.

Say the word and I'll bring them to Blackpool (you are coming right?)

[ovlover]

What consumption figures are you planning to achieve. i ask this because i am planning for my next project, which will have a B234 donk, which will be modified. I am just wondering what you, and others will/ want to get with your power figures? cuz theres no point in rolling around in a 4 that drinks 16-17l/100km,...... unless it pulls figures over 500-600kw

[frpe82]

What consumption figures are you planning to achieve. i ask this because i am planning for my next project, which will have a B234 donk, which will be modified. I am just wondering what you, and others will/ want to get with your power figures? cuz theres no point in rolling around in a 4 that drinks 16-17l/100km,...... unless it pulls figures over 500-600kw
8-10L/100km on petrol and around 13L/100km on E85.

My car now uses 11L/100km on petrol and 14L/100km on E85.

[frpe82]

Fred,

I have a complete b234f alternator/steering pump bracket (including the alternator and pump) if they are any use to you.

Say the word and I'll bring them to Blackpool (you are coming right?)
Yes please. That will be very kind of you.

Of course i will come. Don't be silly. This is just a minor setback, but it will not affect my trip.

[J2_]

B204 parts are expensive... tell me about..

Oilfeed line for the b204 (from volvo) €146,37 ($ 229.74 )
Coolant pipe € 79,73 ($ 125.14 )
Studs (for the turbo) € 4,89 a piece !! ($ 7.68)

etc etc...

So yeah, b204 parts are f*ckin expensive....

[frpe82]

My turbo + accessories arrived today. Pictures will be posted.

[maxman142001]

sweet! cant wait to see :)

[frpe82]

sweet! cant wait to see :)
I can't beleive that it was more than twice the size of the 18T... :omg:

Oh well... 400HP territory, here I come!

No, seriously. I will keep it at the same power level as before. I just want the backpressure down and the efficiency up.

And one thing that looks really nice is that the turbo I got seems to have the proper inlet/outlet for the oil, so the stock lines can probably be used. I will tell you more once I have put it in.

[frpe82]

New T3/T04E turbo on the left, old TD04HL-18T-7 turbo on the right.

http://hem.bredband.net/fredrik-persson/Turbobricks/Temporary/DSC01547.JPG

[suterman]

Yes please. That will be very kind of you.

Of course i will come. Don't be silly. This is just a minor setback, but it will not affect my trip.

Done

[Dr Dokeh]

I seriously laughed out loud when I compared the 16T to my GT2871R when it first arrived.

Nice turbo there Fred, should work gooooooood :oogle:

[Lord Tentacle]

fred

when do i get to see real pictures of the B204ft?

[Ruben]

Could you give me some turbo specs?

[Ruben]

They could not get me a T3/T4E 50-trim with stage III .63 A/R turbine unfortunately.

I still made a $1233.85 order with them though, so next week will be exciting.

I will try the T3/T4E 60-trim with stage III .63 A/R turbine instead.

Sorry, silly me.

edit:
Just checked the APT turbo website, pretty good price! So you will be running an external gate?

[volvo78244]

Well Fred, I guess that one would do, that's quite a turbo!

[BB-Q]

I should have two complete B234's in the garage by the time you arrive Fredrik, so you can pull any bits you want off those too. (I don't think there's a spare alternator though.).

[frpe82]

I have been working like an idiot on my car for the last few days. Damn Americans and their stupid inches... The turbo I have only have 5/16 and 3/8 bolts, and then in the middle of everything they change over to M8.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to get bolts in Sweden with these specs??? Huh, do ya??? Bollocks...

Anyway, I did find all the bolts I needed but they are 8.8 quality. Does that matter? (Someone please enlighten me) The only place where these bolts are being installed is on the CHRA.

And to fit the eBay IC you need to cut quite a lot of metal on the 1996-1998 940 (not needed on the 1991-1995). It will end up pretty sweet I think. I am almost finished with it. I can say that I had a long session with myself, debating in my head wether or not to actually start cutting in to the body of my car. But what the heck... now that I have done so many mods to my car, a little cutting can't do any harm.

The locks for the hood (bonnet) that is on top of the part where i had to cut got a little bit sloppy though, so it got a little bit difficult to close it. I have to bend the metal a little to get it to lock now.

So the only thing I need to sort out now is the piping and the oil return and I will be done.

But god almighty this has been a bitch to get sorted out.

[pooprah]

Do you have any idea how hard it is to get bolts in Sweden with these specs??? Huh, do ya??? Bollocks...


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[JW240]

nice upgrades.
we'll shift through the pile of parts here next week, maybe some stuff thats usable....

[frpe82]

Since all the people working in the car styling industry (yes, that is the only place you can get pipes and silicone couplers here) are a-holes and won't even talk to you unless you flash your cash the first thing you do, I ordered some hoses and pipes to get delivered to my work tomorrow.

When I get off work I will then proceed in building an intake system (with less than 12 hours before my trip to Holland with the car).

So what I have to do is this:

* Put all the pipes and hoses in the car.

* Make brackets for the radiator.

* Put the Forge CBV in.

* Start the car.



And why have I not done this before you ask?

Because everyone in Sweden are either on vacation, or they are total a-holes and will not talk to me. An example is one company (which I will not say the name of, but it is one of the largest suppliers and builders of turbochargers in north EU) which was so mean to me that I just told them to stuff their products where the sun don't shine.

I asked: Do you have any xx size silicone reducers with 90 and 45 degree bends? And do you have pipes with this and that lenght and width?

They said: Maybe.

I said: Can you check?

They said: Yes. (Comes back after a while) We don't have any.

I said: Can you order it?

They said: Maybe.

I said: Can you order it or not? Do the supplier of these products have all the sizes I need? What will be the cost?

They said: Maybe they do, maybe they don't. And are you sure you can afford it?

I said: Can you check it and then order it if they have what I need?

They said: Maybe...

All the time they looked like they could not care less. This was the response from all the companies I went to. WTF with a venegance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Idioooooots!

Except for Bilmode and SAM. They were the only helpful people. I ordered a set of reducing 90 degree silicone couplers and some stainless pipes. It cost me 220 Euro, but at least I know I will get good quality.

I guess companies that sell pipes and silicone hoses are extremely biased towards ricers with heaps of money.

I can just say: BOOOOOOOOOOO TO THE TUNING COMMUNITY AND TUNING STORES IN SWEDEN FOR NOT BEING HELPFUL AT ALL!

Are these companies not interested in getting stuff sold? I know that they make quite a lot of money on these parts since they have a lot of overhead.

[frpe82]

OK. So the engine is finished now.

After several hours of work each day for many days in a row, it is finally finished and I am ready to go to Holland to meet up with JW and Jacob.

It has been a tight schedule. I finished the car around 10-11 pm yesterday, and now at almost 7 am I am leaving for Holland and a 1300km drive today.

Please cross your fingers, pray to your god of choice, or just think of me today so that I can make this trip with the engine still in one piece. Not that the engine is bad or anything, but you'll never know what might happen along the way.

Oh, and the car feels like an F22 Raptor now :oogle:

I will post pictures and stories later.

[frpe82]

Small but important update:

The engine survived. Both the 2600km + trip and the Nürburg ring.

I have got some brackets, alternator, PS-pump and AC-compressor from my good friends in Holland. Thank you soooo much. I really appreciate it. :)

So next year will be the year when the B204FT will be installed in my 940. Then I will hit the ring again I guess.

I just wonder about that T3/T4 of mine... will that ever be able to fit on the exhaust manifold of the B204FT with some room to spare to accomodate engine movement???

Hmmm...

[frpe82]

This is just normal for me now. I could have shifted faster, but this was not really a performance run.

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[frpe82]

I have been really happy with the power my car put out. The driveability has been great as well. Really beyond my expectations. Up until recently I had sooooo much fun with that car. It was really great in every aspect. Brakes were superb. Engine was plenty powerful. Handling was really good (and that really showed up on the ring where I was amazed).

Short after all of the previous events the engine started drinking coolant again. It had done that before in periods and I thought that got fixed with the new headgasket I put in just a short while before I drove to Holland.

During the trip it consumed very little coolant. Then when I was in Holland, a lot of it disappeared at once. Then it was fine again.

In Holland I ran pretty low boost. 8psi on the low boost setting I beleive, and 16-18psi on the high boost setting.

When I was home again, the boost got upped a little bit more and I really enjoyed the car. Too bad I didn't take it to a dyno, since I expected the power to be somewhere beyond 350HP (yes, it was that fast).

A while after I got home it started consuming more and more coolant and it also mixed some with the oil. It didn't smoke though. I also got some trouble with the wastegate flapper which stuck to the housing. So I swapped the headgasket again and fixed the wastegate flapper (got stuck because of coolant).

When I had swapped the headgasket and fired it up, it smoked a lot. I thought it was from the residual fluids in the exhaust system, or maybe that the pistons rings stuck a little. I figured I would let it idle for a while to get it to fix itself.

When it was warm I could feel the smell of burning oil as well. Then it started smoking more and more (oil smoke this time). It also developed a clicking sound.

After further investigation I beleive this engine to be shot. I spent a fortune on it trying to diagnose the problem with new parts and a lot of other costly stuff, so I got poor as hell.

What I suspect: The head or block cracked and mixed oil and coolant, rendering the engine useless. I also suspect the turbo bearings to be bad because of the oil smoke, but I can not be sure of that. All the smoke could have been due to the head or block. It would be bad if it was the turbo. It only has a little over 4500km on it since I bought it from ATP, so it is virtually brand new.

What I know: That I can not drive the car. The camshaft did not survive the mixing of coolant and oil either, and one of the lobes is ground down against the lifter by several millimeters.

Thread about the whole thing:
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=145162

I can not afford to buy any more parts. Nor do I have the time to do much more work to it. It will require a lot of parts before I can get somewhere with it anyway.

I will fix the car up and sell it. I do this with tears in my eyes, but I knew that this day would come sooner or later... not this soon though. :cries:

People here on TB has been very kind to me and donated some humble amounts of cash to my PayPal. I have actually got so much money that it might be enough to buy some needed junkyard parts. I am really thankful. You will earn a special place in paradise for helping a guy you never met with some cash, no matter how little or how much you gave.

Peter (fivehundred) have been so kind to donate a B200FT to me which he will deliver personally on his trip to Sweden very soon. That will get freshened up and put in the car. I am not religious, but I will still say god bless that man.

All the sensors, accessories etc. on my current (blown) engine are either almost brand new or in the same shape as new. Those sensors and accessories will be put on the new engine. The new engine will be tuned to around a safe 200HP for the next owner to enjoy. The car is very nice as some of you know, and the next owner will not be disappointed. I have been really good to that car, and all the goodies that I have installed have made it really super.

I will also have to sell off a lot of other stuff I have dear to me due to financial difficulties, so keep an eye open for some of my things in a for sale thread that will soon be opened.

I will keep you updated on how it goes.

Please stay tuned for my next project to come. It will not be a 940 this time, even though I wanted it to be.

[Ruben]

That sucks:-(

[Fivehundred]

We need to beat some sense into his thick Swedish skull using a Bahco wheel brace from a 1955 PV444. Fortunately I should be able to lay my hands on an implement of the appropriate vintage.

[JW240]

yeah that sucks.....

[testhest]

Sorry to hear about your problems. :-(
It sure looked like to be performing quite well :cool:

Looking forward to seeing more on your new project!

[Dr Dokeh]

Sorry to hear you're selling it Fred. But after the failures you've had, and considering the amount of money and time you've poured into that car, I can't blame you for not wanting to ever see it again.

I just really hope it's not a decision you'll regret :cries:

[blabla]

Wait a minute. Sell the car? You’re confusing me Fred. As you said yourself the car is in good shape and just needs another engine. From my point of view that B200FT is a nice replacement engine. And swapping the engine only takes a few afternoons.

[blabla]

Fixed



I will fix the car up and DRIVE it. I will do this with a smile on my face :)

[volvo78244]

+1 :nod:

[frpe82]

Sorry to hear you're selling it Fred. But after the failures you've had, and considering the amount of money and time you've poured into that car, I can't blame you for not wanting to ever see it again.

I just really hope it's not a decision you'll regret :cries:
No, I don't think I will regret it. A new owner will be really happy with that car since there is nothing wrong with it at all after I have replaced the engine. It is in really really good shape.

Most bushings in the car as well as other semi-wear items have been replaced recently so it should be good for another couple of 100.000 kilometers before you have to do anything at all to it.

And I was really anal about keeping everything in top shape, so that should be a comfort for the next owner.

Wait a minute. Sell the car? You’re confusing me Fred. As you said yourself the car is in good shape and just needs another engine. From my point of view that B200FT is a nice replacement engine. And swapping the engine only takes a few afternoons.
I needed a car that could also reliably take me to and from work every day. Since it has failed to do it's job, I have been forced to get another car in the meantime.

The problem is that I do not have time nor the money to do anything to that car. To get any money I need to sell the car. Paradoxal...

I got my bank to finance a car for me. What it is will be revealed later.

And if you are curious...

Yes, it is still a Volvo. And yes, it is still RWD. And no, it is not a new 940.

[JW240]

im telling! im telling!





J/K :-P

[frpe82]

im telling! im telling!





J/K :-P

:shh:

I want to be the one to tell it.

[blabla]

Not a 940 but still RWD..

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4034/800pxvolvo340iw6.jpg

[JW240]

:shh:

I want to be the one to tell it.

J/K means "Just kidding" eh :-P
(J/K) :lol:

feel the powah!

[Fivehundred]

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[Turbosteen]

http://www.hoeijmakers.net/rob/blog/uploaded_images/volvo-66-1975.jpg

:-P

[blabla]

I had a strange feeling this would happen. :lol:

[frpe82]

J/K means "Just kidding" eh :-P
(J/K) :lol:

feel the powah!
I know. :)

[frpe82]

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Haha... that would be so typical...

When did you say you would be in Sweden?

[frpe82]

Not a 940 but still RWD..

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4034/800pxvolvo340iw6.jpg

http://www.hoeijmakers.net/rob/blog/uploaded_images/volvo-66-1975.jpg

:-P

Good guesses. You will soon know what car though... ;-)

[JW240]

I had a strange feeling this would happen. :lol:

http://legolas.mdh.se/~mas95jed/dan-epa.jpg

or

http://pictures.tractorfan.nl/groot/v/volvo-bm/48611-814-volvo-bm.jpg
(turbo!!)

[Turbosteen]

Good guesses. You will soon know what car though... ;-)

I already know... :)
I won't tell it though...

[frpe82]

I already know... :)
I won't tell it though...
How do you know that?

And who are you?

[Ruben]

How do you know that?

And who are you?

Because turbosteen is flip.....

[Ruben]

I got my bank to finance a car for me. What it is will be revealed later.

And if you are curious...

Yes, it is still a Volvo. And yes, it is still RWD. And no, it is not a new 940.

Foei foei, carpayments suck!

[frpe82]

Because turbosteen is flip.....
Of course... I should have known...

[frpe82]

Foei foei, carpayments suck!
It is not a car payment plan. So the bank does not own my car.

I know what I am doing, and a car payment or leasing-type stuff is something I would never do. The terms and payment plan is not so nice on stuff like that.

[Morley]

I got my bank to finance a car for me. What it is will be revealed later.

And if you are curious...

Yes, it is still a Volvo. And yes, it is still RWD. And no, it is not a new 940.

Que? RWD Volvo worth taking a loan for, that is not a 940??

It's either a perfectly built 240 or a 960. Or V90. Maybe it's a V90. It is a V90. Has to be a V90!!!

(I mean, come on, a 740? BLERGH!)

[amargill19?]

is it a sugga?

http://www.jeepsweden.net/jeepforum/contents/reportage/ranneslatt2006/pic15.jpg

[Mr.Borrie]

I'll bet is something Legand.... wait for it ... Dary!

[Ruben]

It is not a car payment plan. So the bank does not own my car.

I know what I am doing, and a car payment or leasing-type stuff is something I would never do. The terms and payment plan is not so nice on stuff like that.

Ok, that sounds acceptable..

[frpe82]

Ok, that sounds acceptable..
It's a private loan, extended from a previous loan in the same bank. They were very willing to give it to me when they saw the price on the new car.

So now it will be revealed...

It is a very unusual car actually, and you will see that it has a combo of stuff that is rare.

It is a V90!

* From 1998
* 175.000 km.
* B6304FS2 engine.
* M90H2 gearbox.
* The usual luxury stuff like the best leather seats and walnut panels.
* Volvo SC-805 stereo and 8 speakers.

Oh so sweet... one of the 150 V90 1998 manuals ever made. One of 10 (or 11) ever sold in Sweden.

[Turbosteen]

IT'S THE HEAVIEST RWD VOLVO EVER MADE!
:-P:-P

Joking.... Really nice car!:cool:

[Mr.Borrie]

IT'S THE HEAVIEST RWD VOLVO EVER MADE!
:-P:-P

Joking.... Really nice car!:cool:

yes and yours seems to be the lightest one ever made :oogle:

[frpe82]

IT'S THE HEAVIEST RWD VOLVO EVER MADE!
:-P:-P

Joking.... Really nice car!:cool:
And I will have to tune my B204FT to 100HP more than yours to get the same performance as you.

[blabla]

Nice car! Should be really comfy!

[Morley]

V90!

I win! What's my price?

(You win too...nicest RWD Volvo ever made.) :urgod:

BTW: pics or ban.

[frpe82]

I win! What's my price?

(You win too...nicest RWD Volvo ever made.) :urgod:

BTW: pics or ban.
Pics will come.

[DaButcher]

Yeah, i was waiting for you to post about the V90, so I could contratulate you :-)

[Fivehundred]

Pipes and slippers were on offer on the ferry today, thought I'd better get you some old man......:-P

[Lord Tentacle]

you could have just tossed the B6304 into your 940 like I did.....

[Fivehundred]

Pics will come.

They will indeed Grandpa:-P

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n413/turbobrickspics/DSC_1668.jpg
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n413/turbobrickspics/DSC_1675.jpg

The beast in question

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n413/turbobrickspics/DSC_1676.jpg

Fred did a spot of lowering, negative camber anyone?

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n413/turbobrickspics/DSC_1674.jpg

The correct number of pedals and M90 goodness

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n413/turbobrickspics/DSC_1681.jpg

And finally lets hope Fred's new found Grandpa status helps keep his right foot in check....

[blabla]

:cool:

[klr142]

That's not a pretty redblock...:wtf:

[DaButcher]

That's not a pretty redblock...:wtf:
looks more brown yes.

the v90 on the other hand looks nice :-)

[volvorsport]

ahh , so that was it , you melted a piston !

[Fivehundred]

I love the power of suggestion...

[JW240]

nice V90, but the combo of those rims, the negative camber, the air-ride tires and the stance.... :omg: damn, get some rims on there!
Interior looks good. Comfort!

Melted piston, i thought E85 burned cooler and no ping. j/k :-P
Impressive damage. that piston (or part of it) would be nice to have on your desk as a presse papier/paperweight.

[Janspeed]

first: congratulations to Fredrik on the purchase of that rare V90!

Piston: I have a very similar piston from a B230F in my garage: melted. Cause: faulty/clogged up injector. It did not deliver the same amount of fuel as the other 3 injectors, hence that cilinder ran on a very weak mixture...all the time... even when doing performance runs.

[volvo78244]

Indeed, very nice car. I really like the front end of those, I want to convert mine to that one.

Melted piston, no wonder it drank coolant/oil.

Are gonna use that B204 engine for this car now? Can you change from 6 cilinder to 4 cilinder engine?

BTW, someone in this house who owns a 945 is now very jealous of your V90, so now I have some explaining to do why she didn't get one of those :-D

[frpe82]

:cool:
Yes :cool:

That's not a pretty redblock...:wtf:
No...

looks more brown yes.

the v90 on the other hand looks nice :-)
Sure does :-D

Dirty though. ANd it has some residual wax from the previous owner. I have not had time to do much to the car yet.

ahh , so that was it , you melted a piston !
No.

I love the power of suggestion...
Haha... yes.

nice V90, but the combo of those rims, the negative camber, the air-ride tires and the stance.... :omg: damn, get some rims on there!
Interior looks good. Comfort!

Melted piston, i thought E85 burned cooler and no ping. j/k :-P
Impressive damage. that piston (or part of it) would be nice to have on your desk as a presse papier/paperweight.
Like I said, I have not had any time to do much yet. The Pegasus wheels will of course be put on the V90.

first: congratulations to Fredrik on the purchase of that rare V90!

Piston: I have a very similar piston from a B230F in my garage: melted. Cause: faulty/clogged up injector. It did not deliver the same amount of fuel as the other 3 injectors, hence that cilinder ran on a very weak mixture...all the time... even when doing performance runs.
Thanks for congratulating me on the V90.

And that horrible mess is not my engine. :-P

Guess what it is...

Indeed, very nice car. I really like the front end of those, I want to convert mine to that one.

Melted piston, no wonder it drank coolant/oil.

Are gonna use that B204 engine for this car now? Can you change from 6 cilinder to 4 cilinder engine?

BTW, someone in this house who owns a 945 is now very jealous of your V90, so now I have some explaining to do why she didn't get one of those :-D
Not my engine. Haha.

And I am thinking of putting the B204FT in there, yes. But we'll see...

Tell Petra that I will be crying blood when the green mean ethanol machine will be sold... I really loved that 940.

[Mr.Borrie]

need more 17" and a wax.. but kudos that girl has some potential

[JW240]

Yes :cool:
And that horrible mess is not my engine. :-P
Guess what it is...

killed a small diesel of a forklift truck? I didn't really recognize it as a redblock but kinda assumed it would be yours.

[frpe82]

killed a small diesel of a forklift truck? I didn't really recognize it as a redblock but kinda assumed it would be yours.
Very good guess, but wrong.

Let's see who can nail it :-P

I will give you some clues:

4-banger.
Petrol driven.
Turbocharged.
Not Volvo.

[frpe82]

Another clue...?

I guess that the techs will nail this.

If I say AEB and AJL. What am I thinking of?

[frpe82]

need more 17" and a wax.. but kudos that girl has some potential
It also needs some shorter control arms at the back to even out the negative camber.

It grips as hell though. Even with those horrible tires.

[JW240]

Audi anyone?

edit: msn is ****ing evil, bouncing everything i say.

[Fivehundred]

Audi anyone?

edit: msn is ****ing evil, bouncing everything i say.

Yup, that's it. I can resist everything bar temptation. Looked so redblock like at a brief glance.......

The handywork of an 18 year old who decided he could make it home after the oil light came on! The most impressive bit is that sizeable lumps of engine/turbo made it all the way into the intercooler. Even more impressive is that it didn't punch a rod through the block.

[JW240]

Yup, that's it. I can resist everything bar temptation. Looked so redblock like at a brief glance.......

The handywork of an 18 year old who decided he could make it home after the oil light came on! The most impressive bit is that sizeable lumps of engine/turbo made it all the way into the intercooler. Even more impressive is that it didn't punch a rod through the block.

oops, thats stupid. It resembled redblock a bit yeah, but a quick look at the pics of my disassembled B230FK showed otherwise. The Small Kubota engines look a bit like this as well after they have been blown up :lol:
once i saw a B230F that was run without oil as well (lost the drain plug on the Autobahn), rod poked through the block but it still ran, you could see the crank turning and the remaining rod clattering, but it still moved under its own power. Redblocks ftw!

[frpe82]

Yeah. It is a 1.8T engine from an Audi.

2003 Audi A4, 150HP (or 163), FWD. Not tuned.

It had 19" RS4 wheels though. 3-4 months old and curb rash from hell (shudder...).

Who treats their car like that?

[Mr.Borrie]

Yeah. It is a 1.8T engine from an Audi.

2003 Audi A4, 150HP (or 163), FWD. Not tuned.

It had 19" RS4 wheels though. 3-4 months old and curb rash from hell (shudder...).

Who treats their car like that?

a woman ?

oh noes i didnt

[frpe82]

a woman ?

oh noes i didnt
An 18 year old boy of middle eastern origin.

It doesn't have anything to do with origin, but most of them and the gangs they hanf with have a different culture where they try to impress people and they think that it is the most important thing in the world.

They always try to flash their stuff, but knows nothing about how it works.

[stylngle2003]

damn. did you guys get SE model s/v90s? we had them with suede interior trims on the seats and seat backs, very similar to 850R seats

[Mr.Borrie]

An 18 year old boy of middle eastern origin.

It doesn't have anything to do with origin, but most of them and the gangs they hanf with have a different culture where they try to impress people and they think that it is the most important thing in the world.

They always try to flash their stuff, but knows nothing about how it works.

Sound like me minus the "middle eastern origin" :lol:

Edit, ah yes and i am old

[frpe82]

damn. did you guys get SE model s/v90s? we had them with suede interior trims on the seats and seat backs, very similar to 850R seats
None of the S/V90's has a designation. The only thing you could do when buying the car was to choose all of the equipent that you wanted. No "packages".

[frpe82]

I have now sold some stuff in my sales thread, so maybe I can get some stuff for the 940 that I need to be able to fix the engine and sell it (with tears in my eyes, but I have to move on...).

Since Peter (fivehundred) gave me a block and head with pretty low mileage that looked fresh, I only need a turbo, downpipe and injectors suitable for gasoline and the 3" AMM.

The next owner will probably be very happy with that car. It will be a fun car with the 3" AMM, injectors, 13c turbo (probably), eBay top model IC, my special chips for extra performance, 3" exhaust system with race cat, M90L2 gearbox, stiff lowering springs and hard sport shocks. Probably a 200HP+ daily driver that is nice as hell on the road.

I have done a lot to that car. I will take some stuff off the 940 to use on the V90, but not much. The only thing I will keep are the Pegasus wheels to put on the V90, and the lightened flywheel (to put on the B204FT I guess). The rest will be going to the next owner.

I would be happy if I found a car like that on Blocket here in Sweden.

[Wagner]

So where is the B204FT going to go in?

[frpe82]

So where is the B204FT going to go in?
Maybe the V90, but just maybe.

Not decided yet.

I could have sold that engine to get money, but I am sure I will never get my hands on one again if I do. And I also think that you T-brix folks would not like me to sell it either. Unless I sell it to a T-bricker. That is another option. But it would not feel right after all the effort I have put in all of this.

My thought with the V90 is to put a T6 in it for the next season at the Nürburg ring.

But that is also a maybe.

Or even 300HP+ in NA form... :oogle:

[Ruben]

I don't think a small 2 L engine is what should power a V90, even if it has 350HP. Sell the B204FT as a complete kit to someone in Sweden or over here on the board.
T6 or maybe a B6304 high cr (12:1?) , e85, better cams, chips, better exhaust/header should make the car fun to drive...

[frpe82]

I don't think a small 2 L engine is what should power a V90, even if it has 350HP. Sell the B204FT as a complete kit to someone in Sweden or over here on the board.
That doesn't really feel right. Not considering the fact that I got the accessories from you and Filip for free.

But honestly... even though it is the sweetest engine ever made (IMO), the V90 doesn't really have a use for it. The V90 should have a singing 6-cylinder engine, naturally aspirated or force-fed.

Sho what should I do? I know that since it will not be installed in the V90, it is never going to be used by me. Should I put up a sales ad here on the forum?

T6 or maybe a B6304 high cr (12:1?) , e85, better cams, chips, better exhaust/header should make the car fun to drive...
That was my primary plan, yes. I will take it to 260-270HP NA first (virtually free), and then T6 next year if possible.

[Ruben]

I'd put it up for sale. You've got quite a lot $ invested in something you will not be using....

[JW240]

That doesn't really feel right. Not considering the fact that I got the accessories from you and Filip for free.

You can always give stuff back you know ;-)
(you made some arrangement with my brother about the parts...?)


Sho what should I do? I know that since it will not be installed in the V90, it is never going to be used by me. Should I put up a sales ad here on the forum?
That was my primary plan, yes. I will take it to 260-270HP NA first (virtually free), and then T6 next year if possible.

By buying a V90 you basically made the decision to use a whiteblock only, so much stuff is different, and as said, the weight of the car begs for more than 2 liter displacement. Peter told me how different the V90 is from other models, as i kinda expected.
Whiteblock, redblock, both are great engines. Choose what best fits your application, don't let the color decide haha.

[Turbosteen]

That doesn't really feel right. Not considering the fact that I got the accessories from you and Filip for free.


If you decide to go with a whiteblock.... I'd like to have the steering pump and AC bracket back (or get me the parts when they fail on my engine HAHA:-P) You are off course still free to use the parts if you are going to use the B204FT!! That's what they were intended for:rofl:


But honestly... even though it is the sweetest engine ever made (IMO), the V90 doesn't really have a use for it. The V90 should have a singing 6-cylinder engine, naturally aspirated or force-fed.


D24(TIC):cool:

[Fivehundred]

None of the S/V90's has a designation. The only thing you could do when buying the car was to choose all of the equipent that you wanted. No "packages".

There was a CD package.

Not sure you're going about this the right way. Set the 940 up to be reasonably powerful but economical. People are worried about fuel prices at the moment. Cheap E85, B200 will be a winner.

[frpe82]

I'd put it up for sale. You've got quite a lot $ invested in something you will not be using....
Yeah, you are right.

You can always give stuff back you know ;-)
(you made some arrangement with my brother about the parts...?)



By buying a V90 you basically made the decision to use a whiteblock only, so much stuff is different, and as said, the weight of the car begs for more than 2 liter displacement. Peter told me how different the V90 is from other models, as i kinda expected.
Whiteblock, redblock, both are great engines. Choose what best fits your application, don't let the color decide haha.
Whiteblock it is.

If you decide to go with a whiteblock.... I'd like to have the steering pump and AC bracket back (or get me the parts when they fail on my engine HAHA:-P) You are off course still free to use the parts if you are going to use the B204FT!! That's what they were intended for:rofl:
I will give you the parts back when i get to Holland :)

D24(TIC):cool:
No way!

There was a CD package.
Not here, and not in 1998.

Not sure you're going about this the right way. Set the 940 up to be reasonably powerful but economical. People are worried about fuel prices at the moment. Cheap E85, B200 will be a winner.
I have thought about that as well. maybe I will try to list it as running on E85.

[JW240]

yeah, sell it running on E85, and supply parts to downgrade again to gasoline. Sounds like a good plan!

[DaButcher]

Sell the b234, then you buy a bitchin lysholm supercharger ;)

[volvo78244]

I agree on using the whiteblock, V90's were meant to be 6 cilinder cars and be kept that way. Despite the B204FT being a very nice engine as well.

The T6 is very nice, better start working on it so I can be your passenger again on next year's Nurburg touring :)

[frpe82]

yeah, sell it running on E85, and supply parts to downgrade again to gasoline. Sounds like a good plan!
Yeah. Sounds good.

Sell the b234, then you buy a bitchin lysholm supercharger ;)
B204.

I agree on using the whiteblock, V90's were meant to be 6 cilinder cars and be kept that way. Despite the B204FT being a very nice engine as well.

The T6 is very nice, better start working on it so I can be your passenger again on next year's Nurburg touring :)
Hehe...

[DaButcher]

Hi man, I was looking for you on msn yesterday.

I found some swedish company that deals loweringkit for the IRS MKII.
http://xtremtse943.e-butiken.se/show_product.asp?artnr=GEV112001&ref=%2Fshow%5Fcat%2Easp%3Fcat%5Fid%3D763%26head%5F id%3D633&cat_id=763

I dont know if G&M is a good brand? But the price is very good? 4000 for front springs, front shocks and rear shocks (works on nivomat irs mk2, keeping the composite leaf spring)

[frpe82]

Hi man, I was looking for you on msn yesterday.

I found some swedish company that deals loweringkit for the IRS MKII.
http://xtremtse943.e-butiken.se/show_product.asp?artnr=GEV112001&ref=%2Fshow%5Fcat%2Easp%3Fcat%5Fid%3D763%26head%5F id%3D633&cat_id=763

I dont know if G&M is a good brand? But the price is very good? 4000 for front springs, front shocks and rear shocks (works on nivomat irs mk2, keeping the composite leaf spring)
I have been quite busy all weekend, helping my dad at the High-end/Hi-Fi exhibition.

And today I have been at a customers location, dealing with his broken stuff.

Damn I am tired :-P

But... Haven't you seen the pictures? The car has already been lowered with an IRSII kit (lowering springs that are hard as hell + hard shocks). I used the same brand as the ones I used on the 940. Hehe... handles like a dream, and it still has comfort ;-)

[frpe82]

The V90 will get an extra 30-40HP on Friday. Just wanted to tell you that.

And this thread will soon be worked over and the car will be replaced.

[Vee_Que]

That V90 is lower then my 760 at the rear with more camber, awesome!

Looks nice, but sad you need to get rid of the car you love, I don't want to do that to my current car ever as I love it too.

[frpe82]

I just came home.

The V90 has a lot of extra power now. The only thing that is missing now is a new exhaust and converting it to take E85.

The ECU is now mapped for E85, but can be run on 100 octane Shell V-power gasoline if necessary (which I did on my way home today). It adjusts and retards the timing a little on V-power, but works just fine. The ignition maps are agressive as...

It was a dream to drive it home now. It also sounds so much more powerful. It growls as hell when mashing the throttle.

[frpe82]

I think I am now obligated to give you guys a sound clip or a video in the near future... :)

[Mr.Borrie]

yes

[frpe82]

yes
I will upload it soon :) (In a few hours)

[frpe82]

Videos...

You can also choose to view them in high quality.

Talking and reving: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCAAc8QTpxk

Driving: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_xlIZ7CBsE

Driving some more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWmzIj4lSA8

[maxman142001]

Very nice Fred!

[Turbosteen]

Nice! Sounds powerful and aggressive!
Are your dash lights working ok?:-P It's probably too dark for the camera?

Next video in daylight:)

[Dr Dokeh]

That sounds awesome Fred :-D

I want a V90 now :grrr:

[blabla]

Thats awesome :drool:

I can imagine driving that V90 makes you forget al the problems you've had with the 940!

[frpe82]

Thats awesome :drool:

I can imagine driving that V90 makes you forget al the problems you've had with the 940!
Yeah, but the 940 still needs to be fixed and sold.

And the V90 is absolutely stock, except for the newly mapped ECU.

It made such a big difference that I am truly amazed. A part of the explanation is of course that it is now mapped for 100+ octane fuel such as V-power, E85 or race gas. Another part of the explanation for this, is that they have been very careful with the stock program at the factory.

It sure has potential alright. This big change is only due to the new software, but once the new exhaust and race cat is put on, I can expect it to be a monster (think 260HP-ish).

[DaButcher]

Looks and sounds nice :-)
You will be impressed when you let the b6304 breathe as it should do :-)

The only downside, is that you will get a lot of speeding tickets, since the police will hear you coming from far away, sounding like a true sportscar.

[frpe82]

Looks and sounds nice :-)
You will be impressed when you let the b6304 breathe as it should do :-)
Yeah. With the tune I have now, the power will be wayyyy up when the new exhaust gets installed (no money at the moment though due to the 940).

The only downside, is that you will get a lot of speeding tickets, since the police will hear you coming from far away, sounding like a true sportscar.
I will try to keep the sound level down though, but my main concern is backpressure. The goal is zero backpressure, so we'll see what the sound level will be.

[klr142]

Damn that sounds good. Sounds very similar to a stock BMW I6 now. And man am I jealous that you have that engine packed into the last RWD wagon, WITH A MANUAL transmission. Sweet deal. :) Can't wait for some intake and exhaust work.

[foggyjames]

I would expect to see you losing some power when naturally aspirated with minimised backpressure!

I mentioned in another thread that I have a T6 motor for sale...wink wink ;-)

cheers

James

[frpe82]

I would expect to see you losing some power when naturally aspirated with minimised backpressure!
Not on this engine, and not with this tune.

I mentioned in another thread that I have a T6 motor for sale...wink wink ;-)

cheers

James
Could you tell me more?

Year? EMS version?

[Hagar17]

Woohoo! Nice work Fred!

[foggyjames]

You're not concerned about losing the scavenging effect?

It was from a 1999 car. I'm not sure about which management system it used...I have the ECU box, but not much wiring. I assumed anyone using it would run MS, etc. It has ~100k miles on it, and I drove it onto the transporter myself...seemed AOK to me. I'm asking £400 for it, minus turbos. The car came up for relatively little money, and I thought it was worth having for someone in the RWD world. I'm having dark thoughts about putting it in a V90 or 780, but I don't really need either of those vehicles..

cheers

James

[frpe82]

You're not concerned about losing the scavenging effect?
Yeah, the pulses in a certain pipe dimension will help evacuate the exhaust gasses from the other cylinders of course. But the supposed fact that a naturally aspirated engine needs backpressure is a myth. Especially on such a modern engine.

The really old engines may be different of course.

It was from a 1999 car. I'm not sure about which management system it used...I have the ECU box, but not much wiring. I assumed anyone using it would run MS, etc. It has ~100k miles on it, and I drove it onto the transporter myself...seemed AOK to me. I'm asking £400 for it, minus turbos. The car came up for relatively little money, and I thought it was worth having for someone in the RWD world. I'm having dark thoughts about putting it in a V90 or 780, but I don't really need either of those vehicles..

cheers

James
I may have to buy that from you ;-)

Don't get rid of it yet please.

[foggyjames]

I'd be interested to do some testing on that theory...say 2" vs 3" on a ~2.5L engine, and see what effect it has on the torque curve.

It's for sale, so the first serious offer takes it. I've had a few enquiries, but no money on the table yet, so I wouldn't panic. I'll check back with you if I do get an offer...

cheers

James

[frpe82]

I stayed at the shop after work on Friday to replace my cam belt on the whiteblock.

There are actually a lot of things that needs to be replaced...

Cam belt.
Tensioner (the gas spring).
Tensioning roller.
Linking roller.
Water pump + gasket + screws.

And for the accessories...

Accessory belt.
Linking roller.
Tensioner arm.

Replacing it all is a pretty straightforward procedure, though it would be nice to have someone there to help you anyway (holding stuff and helping with the tensioner). I do wonder about a few things though...

The new accessory belt was almost 10mm shorter. I blame it on stretch/wear. Nothing strange there.

But the cam belt was a lot shorter than the original (one tooth less), and much wider (now covering the full width of the gears and rollers). Since I have the 1998 engine, it should already have the wider belt (which was evident it actually had when I opened the cover). I measured the old belt and it was 28mm. But the new one was wider still (almost 30mm).

Longer service interval?



The 940 in the 1st post of this thread will soon be replaced btw.

[frpe82]

1st post changed.

Crying inside... but I must move on.

[Turbosteen]

Ok, really nice car!
BUT: 1800kg?:wtf:
I thougt they were like 1610 kg (empty)

If your V90 is really 1800 kg, then you definitely need a T6..;-)
My 760 is 1326 kg (it will be a little bit more in the future)
so.... stock B204GT in a (my:)) car that is 1326 kg... means that a V90 has to have 280bhp.. for the same kg/bhp

and imagine my car when it's not stock anymore..:)

But the fact is that you have ALL the extra's and accesories, and I have NONE of them:grrr:

I'm really looking forward to see your car in real life, when it's modified etc!!

[frpe82]

Ok, really nice car!
BUT: 1800kg?:wtf:
I thougt they were like 1610 kg (empty)

If your V90 is really 1800 kg, then you definitely need a T6..;-)
My 760 is 1326 kg (it will be a little bit more in the future)
so.... stock B204GT in a (my:)) car that is 1326 kg... means that a V90 has to have 280bhp.. for the same kg/bhp

and imagine my car when it's not stock anymore..:)

But the fact is that you have ALL the extra's and accesories, and I have NONE of them:grrr:

I'm really looking forward to see your car in real life, when it's modified etc!!
It will be really nice next summer. You can be sure of that. And I will beat you by a fair amount :-P (maybe not... but with the 940 I would... crying...).

Nah... the V90 will be nice to have next summer.

[JW240]

hehe, im really curious what will happen. We better stop speculating about who is going to be faster haha, we'll see it on the track..... :-P
The outcome could be influenced by the parts we can find, like a T04E compressor for the 760 haha. (J/K!)