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fsl
11-30-2006, 07:28 PM
hello.
any suggestions for nice fog headlights on my volvo 240? for mounting under frontbumper...must look nice and not bulky like the original 240 fogs

68Dart
11-30-2006, 08:48 PM
Cibie Airport (35 series) are smallish but still 155x110mm. Remember, that generally bigger lights will have better optics.

A couple places you could buy from:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html

http://www.bmackay.com.au/bamuniversal/4wddldrivinglights.htm

tjts1
11-30-2006, 10:06 PM
Fog lights are for pussies. Driving lights are teh sex.
http://static.flickr.com/107/310724277_c5dae41055_o.jpg

dl242gt
11-30-2006, 10:16 PM
I just put a set of these http://www.sullysworld.com/motor/catzlights/msx.asp Catz lights under the bumper on my 82 turbo. I like them alot. They are super bright and very low profile. Now my lights don't hit when I drive up on ramps. Plenty of clearance. I used to use ZKW lights I bought from IPD but I wiped out a couple pair of them over the years. I'm hopeful the catz may last a bit longer. Being under the bumper they are subject to all the road crap and since they are a smaller target I think they'll work out well. You can see the size of the ZKW lights in my signature pic. The Catz are much smaller. I bought the fog/clear version.

68Dart
11-30-2006, 10:36 PM
I just put a set of these http://www.sullysworld.com/motor/catzlights/msx.asp Catz lights under the bumper on my 82 turbo. I like them alot. They are super bright and very low profile. Now my lights don't hit when I drive up on ramps. Plenty of clearance. I used to use ZKW lights I bought from IPD but I wiped out a couple pair of them over the years. I'm hopeful the catz may last a bit longer. Being under the bumper they are subject to all the road crap and since they are a smaller target I think they'll work out well. You can see the size of the ZKW lights in my signature pic. The Catz are much smaller. I bought the fog/clear version.

Those Catz lights look great. Those look like a great option, and they seem to have many smaller lights available.

suterman
12-01-2006, 01:43 PM
im strongly considering driving lights too, is there wiring there for them on a 240? if not how/ where do i wire them?

Forg
12-01-2006, 04:32 PM
I doubt wiring will exist, 'cos it's so easy to wire 'em up. :)

Driving lights should be illegal when you don't have your high beam on (and they are in this country), so IMHO the best way to wire 'em up is to locate the wire which activates high beam. The absolute neatest way to do that would be to locate it under the dash; but as I'm a BodgeMeister I usually just do it at the headlight ('cos it's so easy to identify). Run a wire from there under the dash to a standard Volvo on-off switch, then back to the trigger side of a relay which you mount near the power-distribution-box under the bonnet (up near the battery in a 240 - presume all RWD cars are similar), and then to earth from the relay. On the other side of the relay, the high-power switching side, you attach one connection to the power-distribution-box, and then run a wire from the relay to the new driving lights. Finally earth the remaining terminal of the driving lights.

So when the switch in the dash is on, turning high-beam on will automatically switch your drivers on. When the switch in the dash is off ... there's no way for the current from the high beam to switch the drivers on. Magic! :)

SL8Brick
12-01-2006, 05:40 PM
www.rallylights.com.....nice source for Hella lighting products

wuzilla
12-01-2006, 05:48 PM
Driving lights should be illegal when you don't have your high beam on (and they are in this country), so IMHO the best way to wire 'em up is to locate the wire which activates high beam.

I always wondered about this; I used to have a Saab 900t that I bought with driving lights. They were wired correctly as previously stated (only on when high beams are on). However, I still failed VA safety inspection for having "improper fog lights." This car also had a set of fog lights under the bumper that were operating and in perfect condition. In fact, the lighting on this car was probably the only thing that really worked flawlessly. I didn't pursue it further with the inspector because the car failed for a plethora of other reasons, and I junked it a short while later, but I've always wondered what the law was.

On aside, I saved the lighting system from that car for when I would have another project for them to go on. Gave them to a friend to put on his wife's car, which he never did. I just checked to see if he still had them; he threw them out when cleaning out his garage :grrr:

VQ
12-01-2006, 05:50 PM
Where is the factory mounting position for them?

Forg
12-02-2006, 07:44 AM
If it's truly a 240 (ie. plastic bumpers), there ain't a factory mounting pozzy; I believe that only Commando Bumpers models had foggies or drivers from the factory, and they were actually in the grille, although I've seen dealer-fit effors which were fitted to the top of the bumper in front of the grille.

I'm thinking of maybe fitting drivers in future, with platical bumpers, but think I might have to cut holes in the air-dam to fit them neatly recessed.

WheyDey
12-02-2006, 08:24 AM
Where is the factory mounting position for them?

i think the first volvo to use external factory fogs was the 740, and as forg said, get out the ol drill.

dl242gt
12-02-2006, 12:41 PM
As mentioned driving lights are only legally on when the high beam is on. They are supposed to go out when the high beam is turned off. Fog lights are supposed to work similar in that they are only to be used with a low beam and should go off when the high beam is turned on. I see lots of lights wired incorrectly even from the factory nowadays. What I mean is the cars where the fog lights can be turned on even with the headlights off.

I'm happy with the fog lights but I'm considering some type of above the bumper driving light to not only look great but to add some high beam lighting power. Adding lights above the bumper on a cool old Volvo blows away all those SUV that try to look good like that.

holtzboy
12-02-2006, 01:39 PM
That is one of my pet peeves, someone who drives around with just their fog lights on or just their corner/parking lamp lights and fog lights on. I just don't get it at all. Unless you are using a $40 pair of overwattage Osram or Cibie H4 bulbs and are trying to maximize their lifetime.

240Psycho
12-03-2006, 03:52 AM
i think the first volvo to use external factory fogs was the 740, and as forg said, get out the ol drill.

82 242 turbo got them, mounted under bumper with a green foglight switch.

Tom Wiley
12-03-2006, 04:42 AM
I'm looking at lights also. What does a Euro beam pattern look like?

Unregistered
12-04-2006, 12:16 PM
I was thinking of wiring some fog lights to the switch for fog lights (top red lights in rear) that is stock on newer 240s. pros? cons?

fsl
12-04-2006, 12:40 PM
Fog lights are for pussies. Driving lights are teh sex.


I got driving lamps, but I want fog lamps too:-D But it's too bad not many fog lamps fit well under the 240 bumper...

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5069/img3119largeiw2.jpg

fsl
12-04-2006, 12:54 PM
How would foglights IN the bumper look? :D

Forg
12-04-2006, 04:57 PM
How would foglights IN the bumper look? :D
Wierd. But I think they'd look good if mounted in the air-dam; eg. take off the cover over the tow-hook & mount the light in that hole, and then cut a similar hole in the other side. That unfortunately won't work because of the tow-hook, but I wonder about doing something similar outboard of the tow-hook?

fsl
12-06-2006, 04:03 PM
but the angle is too low so it lights up directly to the ground..

fsl
12-27-2006, 11:15 PM
no help?

crandandall
12-28-2006, 12:30 AM
I would get a nice set of quality lights and mount them in the airdam like Forg mentioned. This position is fine for foglamps, according to the CA vehicle code:

On a motor vehicle other than a motorcycle, the foglamps authorized under this section shall be mounted on the front at a height of not less than 12 inches nor more than 30 inches and aimed so that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high-intensity portion of the light to the left of the center of the vehicle projects higher than a level of four inches below the level of the center of the lamp from which it comes, for a distance of 25 feet in front of the vehicle.

So, you want them aimed straight ahead and they shouldn't shine too far ahead of your car.

These look pretty nice, not too big and easy to mount.

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/300.asp

Good luck

Homer
12-28-2006, 02:09 AM
I've got a set of ZKW fogs (Austrian), I mounted them then decided no. Bought them new. PM me if interested. They look exactly like the bosch ones that came as an option.

240Psycho
12-28-2006, 02:53 AM
I got driving lamps, but I want fog lamps too:-D But it's too bad not many fog lamps fit well under the 240 bumper...

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5069/img3119largeiw2.jpg

Your car is damn near i dentical to my 91

only i dont have driving lights i have these
http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogue.pl?flcmd=preview&flmaint=714
http://db.hella.com.au/images/1323.jpg

RedFridge
12-28-2006, 03:09 AM
I would contact an aviation supply company or an aviation wrecking yard.
I had a pair of landing lights from a commercial aircraft on my 240z.

Talk about a nice set of lights. I could pretty much see the next state with em on.