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Hodginsa 10-25-2012 09:56 PM

Hodginsa's: Project Athena
 
Hey all, for those who don't know, I used to be Crazy0000 and I had a 91 black 240 that I turbocharged years ago, then megasquirted, and DD'd for a few years. Theres a project thread about it here...

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=134164

Day 1 Update!
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I had to get rid of her last year for some not great reasons, and she wasn't running either. I have had plenty of cars but I can't escape the 240! I'm getting another one! As you can see from the use of the word "getting" I have not found a suitable body to buy yet. I'm holding out for something rust free, cheap, and before 1987(no etest in ontario before then). I still have a reason for this place holder thread though. Today I picked up a B230FT Squirter engine from a volvo shop in my area for $300. I have begun tearing into it and I am thinking of all the stuff I want to do to it. I need to keep reminding myself to not rush and take my time(its hard for me to just go slow at something). Still have some decisions to make though.Money is still an issue but I don't want to blow my motor and I want to make a lot of power. I'm talking "street legal", but definitely not "street legal".

Heres the motor I got today (Oct 25th 2012):

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/B230-1.jpg

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/B230-2.jpg

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/B230-3.jpg

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/B230-4.jpg

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/B230-5.jpg

Ohh these are cool, haven't had a [volvo] engine with these before.
http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/B230-6.jpg

So.. Should I get new pistons and rods? or stick it out with the stockers for awhile. Initial goal is 300hp, but I think I will quickly want to up that. The problem being is it should be faster than my friends MkIII supra.

Oh yeah, current deadline for the car is May 2013.. For two reasons, one being a joke. You decide which one.
1) Fast and Furious 6 comes out, need it before then.
2) Carlisle Auto show. I want to go this year, I want to see everyone again.

Input is needed!

Also car will be running on MS3.

91_740Turbo 10-25-2012 10:06 PM

If you know you're going to want more than 300 than change the rods. at least thats what I would do based on the info I've seen on this forum. thats if you dont mind being at 300 for a while then taking the motor out of the car to change the rods and w/e else you're going to update

olov 10-25-2012 10:10 PM

don't overthink it
j/y b230+t+headwork+no2+tunning=
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=267962

i hope i can get to carlisle this year, been wanting to go for a few years, and the car might actually be running in may.....

Hodginsa 10-25-2012 10:35 PM

I figure as much, but the stock B230 pistons with H-beams good enough? Where do the limitations of the stock piston come into play?

I'm not over thinking it, but its going to be a street car with hopefully a lot of power, and I'm not a fan of No2. Headwork is a must. Tuning is not an issue. The thinking comes from not wanting to just cobble it together, since most of the time I'm working on my DD, but I have a DD truck now, so I can actually take the time to do things right and well. My Megasquirted 240 was really fun, but it was always nerve racking trying to do things then wondering if ill have a car for a week if it doesn't work.

olov 10-25-2012 10:38 PM

stock pistons have done over 500whp

rods are good for over 300 with tuning, but if you're gonna replace something that's what it should be

ZVOLV 10-26-2012 05:06 PM

yawn....naked girlz or ban!

ONE star

Hodginsa 10-26-2012 08:05 PM

Haha, friends garage and it says "Naked girls only" but I was waiting for someone to notice, kudos to you. Its only day two of my project, no rating it yet!

I have the engine torn down completely now, going to take it to a shop for a refresh. One thing I noticed is there is a bit of a ridge in the cylinders but about 1cm below the ridge all the cross hatching is still intact. Any thoughts? Will I need to get it bored out and get bigger pistons? I was hoping to use the stock pistons, as they look in really good shape.

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/Crosshatch.JPG

WindowsBreakerG4 10-27-2012 03:13 AM

Turbo engines seem to do that. I'd be tempted to just run it

poulrais 10-27-2012 08:39 AM

If I were you I would go with bigger injectors and LS1 coils! ;-):-P

And what's this Carlisle thing? That would make a nice season opener in May!

Hodginsa 10-27-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WindowsBreakerG4 (Post 4367061)
Turbo engines seem to do that. I'd be tempted to just run it

Well its going to the shop to get a hot tank and refresh, the engine has <200k KM so its young, I'm just wondering if/when the guy at the shop says it needs to be honed or whatever, will I need larger pistons? Whats the best way to clean pistons? and does anyone want straight 13mm rods?

Quote:

Originally Posted by poulrais (Post 4367133)
If I were you I would go with bigger injectors and LS1 coils! ;-):-P

And what's this Carlisle thing? That would make a nice season opener in May!

I may take you up on those :-P:lol:

Carlisle is an Import show in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. I went a few years ago and it was a blast, always a great turn out of Volvo/TB people and there is kind of a little competition each year to see if more Volvos or more Saabs show up(still happen?). Also there is auto-crossing. Its a weekend so you just camp out.

amerbritcan 10-29-2012 04:52 PM

Carlisle is badass, I've gone the past 2 years, my wife for the past 3. I'm trying desperately to try and get more ontarians going, but we like to drive down to my Mother-in-law's a day early, near philly, and hang out/convoy with the philly crew, and the ottawans, while more than welcome, don't feel like doing that. :lol:

poulrais 10-31-2012 07:17 PM

Looks like alot of TBrickers do Carlisle one year and IPD the next. Carlisle is like a 9 hours drives from here so I'd be more tempted to go there.

I'll start trying to sell the idea to the GF right away!!:nod:

Hodginsa 11-01-2012 12:56 AM

A box of goodies from this guy /\

Ill open them later.
http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/InjectorsCoils-1.jpg

Hodginsa 11-01-2012 10:04 PM

School has been beating me down, haven't taken the engine to the shop yet.

But this is what was in that box.

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/InjectorsCoils-2.jpg
Some 61lb injectors.

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/InjectorsCoils-3.jpg
LS1 Coils.

poulrais 11-02-2012 07:44 AM

Yeah!!! :-) Might have a Walbro 255 for sale soon also. I just got my Aeromotive A1000 monster pump and will take the Walbro out...

doucheNozzle 11-02-2012 03:24 PM

Have you already taken the engine to a machine shop? I would argue for finding a N/A block instead.

Hodginsa 11-02-2012 04:18 PM

Its a low KM squirter though, any N/A blocks that I will find will be super high Km for sure.

amerbritcan 11-02-2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poulrais (Post 4372392)
Looks like alot of TBrickers do Carlisle one year and IPD the next. Carlisle is like a 9 hours drives from here so I'd be more tempted to go there.

I'll start trying to sell the idea to the GF right away!!:nod:

I'm far too east coast to do iPd... pretty sure it's in Oregon or Washington or something.

poulrais 11-02-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amerbritcan (Post 4374999)
I'm far too east coast to do iPd... pretty sure it's in Oregon or Washington or something.

Oregon... 4800 km X 2 from my place ! That is a heck of a drive! With my current tune I'd have to change my oil 5 times for the back and forth drive!!! :-P

Hodginsa 11-09-2012 07:07 PM

Well ****, machine shop said recommends a 0.04" overbore! on a <200k km Motor.. So I told them I can't get pistons that big and its not recommended to overbore more than 0.6mm. I guess I am just going to run it. I don't want to find another block and install squirters. Pain in the ass.

Don't know what to do.

Roger-Dee 11-10-2012 12:22 AM

Change machine shop. The question should be can I run stock piston in there or I need to go OS1. It would need to have quite some visual wear before needing that big of an overbore.

Hodginsa 11-10-2012 12:35 AM

Its kind of limited around here. But I do trust the guys, they're pretty well known, old guys though stuck in their ways mostly, but I basically said "What if they were bored to .6mm" and he said there would still be a lip, and didn't think it would be a good idea to do. He didn't disagree when I said maybe I would just leave the bored the way they are and run the stock pistons. There was visual wear, and a lip you can catch with your finger nail(you can see in the pictures). Its just weird cause the car was owned by an old guy who crunched the car(totalled) still running after, came from a volvo shop who knew him and knew took care of it. Maybe I'm just not a good judge of a bad engine.

Am I stupid for wanting to keep the squirter motor? I don't really want to do the squirter mod on an N/A block, especially cause every one I find has high km.

Its also already been hot tanked and cleaned up... so basically throwing money away if I don't use it.

apachechef 11-10-2012 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hodginsa (Post 4384440)
Its kind of limited around here. But I do trust the guys, they're pretty well known, old guys though stuck in their ways mostly, but I basically said "What if they were bored to .6mm" and he said there would still be a lip, and didn't think it would be a good idea to do. He didn't disagree when I said maybe I would just leave the bored the way they are and run the stock pistons. There was visual wear, and a lip you can catch with your finger nail(you can see in the pictures). Its just weird cause the car was owned by an old guy who crunched the car(totalled) still running after, came from a volvo shop who knew him and knew took care of it. Maybe I'm just not a good judge of a bad engine.

Am I stupid for wanting to keep the squirter motor? I don't really want to do the squirter mod on an N/A block, especially cause every one I find has high km.

Its also already been hot tanked and cleaned up... so basically throwing money away if I don't use it.

Squirter mod is very quick and easy with the JVL kit, getting your hands on the kit is the hard part. knocking off 80+ dollars by getting the block with squirters instead of buying new ones is good though.

Hodginsa 11-10-2012 03:15 PM

Just going to take down the ridge and run the block. Maybe if I stumble upon a low km N/A Ill buy it for kicks. You're right, at least I didn't have to buy BMW squirters, which I guaranty are more than $80 here in canada.

So... Today I picked up a rebuilt WC T5 Trans with a bent shift fork for $200, and this...

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/turbo-1.jpg

GT35R Dual ball bearing, ceramic coated hot side and polished(not my style but whatever), never been used. and other goodies.

edit: The sight of the turbo has to at least make this a three star thread... hahaha

Hodginsa 11-11-2012 07:30 PM

Big day still no car. Hey Roger-Dee I'm going to need a bellhousing adapter soon...


Got the T5 cheap cause the PO thought it had a bent shift fork. He said it had been rebuilt recently, but not I'm not so sure. Everything looks newish though! Except for a couple things. Opened her up and found that the shifters were not bent, I don't think. Forgot to get a shot of the forks to make sure, maybe someone can chime in.

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/TransTearDown-1.jpg

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/TransTearDown-2.jpg

Then I noticed something. Third and fourth selection gear was too far foward, and really stuck.

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/TransTearDown-4.jpg

Hmm, Something isn't right in this picture.

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/TransTearDown-3.jpg

Yep, I don't think that part is supposed to be in two.

Proceeded to remove the drive shaft.

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/TransTearDown-6.jpg

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/TransTearDown-7.jpg

http://hodginsa.com/pics/pv/TransTearDown-8.jpg

This is supposed to be like this right? The selection gear tension tooth(I don't know the real name) was cracked in half. It would let you go into fourth but then move and not let it back out. Simple fix! Now where to get parts???


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