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gmtgmt 12-05-2011 05:39 PM

thats good stuff right there funkee

J2_ 12-06-2011 08:46 AM

LPG is a nice fuel. Can handle lots of boost and compression.
But it's still a slow burning fuel.
So it's nice for big V8's with a not really high revlimit.

But for a higher revving turbo'd 4banger I dont know if its best.
Sure 200-250 hp will be possible without problems.
Just take your time to figure it out borrie, take your time to build and you will have loads of fun.
I know the bosma 242GT, I've worked on it, played with it, loads of fun but it also had it's share of problems. He put a lot of money into it.
But yeah with a b230ft+m90+lsd in a roadtax free lpg car it sure was fun.

He changed from a high revving b23+itb's on lpg to a torquey turbo and never looked back.
The itb'd b23 didnt like LPG at the higher rev limit. It revved 'high' but it just didnt want to go past 5500/6000 rpm.
While with e95, it went to 7200 (iirc) without a hitch..

Funkee 12-06-2011 01:29 PM

That's true. As I said before I'm very happy with my LPG in my N/A B230, and semi hi perf Chevy V8.
The V8 revs fine till 5500 (now at around 210km/h, 3spd auto), but around 5000 is my mental redline for that since it's a heavy ass engine. But if the engine is completely weighed out and balanced it should be able to do 6/7000 rpm, I know a guy who had a 396 stroker (makes 434ci (7.1L)) with dual carbs and mixers and easily keeps up with the petrol boys revving over 6K.
But yeah, if you pour enough money in it the sky is the limit ofcourse :)

Mr.Borrie 12-08-2011 06:32 PM

I just got the papers for the car, just need a ambulance to go and pick it up

Cojones 12-09-2011 06:53 AM

Call 112!

240brik 12-09-2011 07:00 AM

i have this street machine magazine :oogle::oogle:

Mr.Borrie 12-09-2011 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Cojones (Post 3981238)
Call 112!

Maybe i can call ANWB tell them it broke down :lol:

Cojones 12-09-2011 09:20 AM

Blow it with a hairdryer for 15 minutes, so it looks like you drove it.

Mr.Borrie 12-11-2011 04:33 PM

You know its ON when i start buying wheels for cars!

Here are some mint looking Rial 5x108 ET11 / 7J


Mr.Borrie 12-18-2011 04:42 PM

Today i picked the car up, too dark for pics but she looks good!
Bodykit is a bit more hausser than the kit in the pic, like i said more pic when i can make some

(Thats gonna be the weekend cause i leave home in the dark and come back in the dark right now)

Mr.Borrie 12-18-2011 05:41 PM

Who knows if i can get just any 240 turbo exhaust and put it on a 1977 242.
Or is there a change between the 200 models tough out the years?

Mr.Borrie 12-19-2011 04:50 PM

Decided to take of the cylinder head, it seems to be in good condition, all the seals are brand new on the manifolds and the valve cover.
Seems like it had been refurbed for LPG before the block went all koolaid man. I'll get it checked if i ever wanna use it but its a shame to ditch it with the block


JW240 12-19-2011 06:28 PM

i bet the cylinder head didnt like it to be run without oil.. probably still useable but give it a good inspection (assuming that the block went koolaid because of no oil, 100% sure to me).

Mr.Borrie 12-20-2011 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by JW240 (Post 3989997)
i bet the cylinder head didnt like it to be run without oil.. probably still useable but give it a good inspection (assuming that the block went koolaid because of no oil, 100% sure to me).

Yeah pretty sure that was running with no oil on the freeway, how else can you kill of a B21?! anyway it looked to pretty to just trow it out directly. i was however stopped because these cylinderheadbolts have a imbus fitting?! never saw that before.. anyway could not find a size that big so head did not came of just now

Janspeed 12-20-2011 11:16 AM

Euro Ford Pinto/OHC engine used the same style imbus headbolts in the same timeframe (late seventies)
You could try lifting out the cam to check the wear on the cam bearings. It is the highest point in the lube system and material of the bearing caps is soft Aluminium so it will suffer fast when not lubricated.
You can check the thickness of the shims in one go while you at it. The thicker the shims, the less wear on the valve seats and valves.

Mr.Borrie 12-27-2011 07:28 PM

dubble post

Mr.Borrie 12-27-2011 07:40 PM

Just asked this here: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=249303

thought i just ask it in my topic here too

There is no way i will get this from you since your so far away but just wondering, Would this fit a 242 from 77'
Its a carb and i want to put injection engine in it and i thought i had to mod the tank for the return but if there are 200's with injection and same tank that fits the 77 it would be one less thing to worry about.

Mr.Borrie 12-30-2011 12:03 PM

Got the afternoon off today, so i hurried home and got cracking on removing all the bit so i can pull the engine.
Everything is now loose and engine is ready for pulling, gonna keep the tranny in the car and just swap engines for now.
Later i will look into swaping the gearboxes to a AW71 i got.


gj940 12-30-2011 05:44 PM

You just can't sit still! Nice job.

Mr.Borrie 01-07-2012 03:01 PM

Huzzah finally a Saturday with no rain!


Dirty time for some steam cleaning!


Mattis 01-07-2012 07:07 PM

Holy poop that engine bay is rusty! Painting it?

Mr.Borrie 01-08-2012 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Mattis (Post 4003585)
Holy poop that engine bay is rusty! Painting it?

yepors, might not be colour coded but i have nice antirust green for fenses. that should be a fantatic base.

Mr.Borrie 01-09-2012 06:19 PM

Pulled both engines inside tonight, to swap over enginemounts of the B21 and take of the last stuff before i junk it.

Also took some time to remove the airco and powersteeringpump and replace the alternator bracket to a A/C delete one. then i removed the old loom and then the EGR bits.

Now started to clean up some parts, considering to maybe paint the engine while its out. already decided to replace the main rear seal and the flametrap (it was super dirty) and the seals for it. Any other bits that i'm better of replacing now?

Also is it possible to test the engine compression manually before trowing it in or do i need the starter for that ?


When the enginemounts where on place and most of the parts where clean-ish i decided i wanted to take the rear bumper off so my dad can weld the spot there when he has some time in between. And while its off anyway i test fitted the bodykit on the back.. wel that does not fit for one bit. The bodystyle seems to work but the bumpershocks seem to be too long, maybe i need newer style ones?

Mr.Borrie 01-09-2012 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by gj940 (Post 3996288)
You just can't sit still! Nice job.

Haha yah you sound like my mom, I came in said "hi" went to my room, came back in ****t old clothes and dove under the car.

She walked up to me she said, "you have no problem switching from office to car mode do you?"
Me: Nah not hard when you think about working on your car all day :lol:

Mr.Borrie 01-09-2012 07:03 PM

Ohyeah almost forgot, got a little present for the green lady if she's running nice
i'll swap over to a HKS dumpvalve, got a asian girlfriend now so i have to be more rice!
I need to digg up the red led undercar i got at the Nürburgring but never used.
Also will need a block off plate once i install the HKS


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