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Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-05-2013, 01:36 AM
Replies: 16
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Posted By Freq
I've tried loading different MSQs that were known...

I've tried loading different MSQs that were known good, but that didn't change anything. Maybe I should try (re)loading the firmware?
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2013, 08:55 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
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Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2013, 08:55 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
Just a reflection. ...

Just a reflection.

http://i.imgur.com/LwmcGhC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TGFPVtO.jpg
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2013, 08:10 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
Finally got the board out of the enclosure. ...

Finally got the board out of the enclosure.

http://i.imgur.com/RYFMbfCh.jpg

Confused by the MSV30 label on the chip... *shrug*

http://i.imgur.com/2dLwT2hh.jpg

V2.21 board.
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2013, 07:14 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
I can try taking it apart again, but the first...

I can try taking it apart again, but the first time I tried I actually couldn't get it apart because of the wires running up to the DB15.
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2013, 05:51 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
No action from the LEDs at all, during cranking...

No action from the LEDs at all, during cranking or otherwise. In TS LEDs 17-19 are set to Spark Output A, Warmup, and Acceleration. The light is constantly off, but when I set LED19 to SparkB it...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 06-30-2013, 12:43 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
I tried, it's a snake-infested nightmare. I...

I tried, it's a snake-infested nightmare.

I got the pin-out from Poik. Now the thing I'm confused about is the spark output. I'm getting 5.0v from both spark outputs, but I'm also receiving power...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 06-29-2013, 09:06 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
This is what my box looks like. I can't find any...

This is what my box looks like. I can't find any documentation that shows what that top box is.

http://i.imgur.com/jwWzpvZ.jpg
Forum: aftermarket engine management 06-29-2013, 07:44 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
Just tested each pin for voltage/resistance. In...

Just tested each pin for voltage/resistance. In the diagram in the previous post the top-left pin with 3.48v is pin 1. The middle-left with 5v is 6, and the bottom-left with no pin is 11.

1. 3.5v...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 06-29-2013, 06:51 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
Now I don't even know what reality is. I plugged...

Now I don't even know what reality is. I plugged the D-sub to test for voltage/resistance on the pins directly on the MS and saw that a few were missing, including the one I was supposedly testing. I...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 06-29-2013, 06:17 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
http://i.imgur.com/g4j39wF.gif ...

http://i.imgur.com/g4j39wF.gif

http://i.imgur.com/xWiChg9.gif

Doing more diagnostics. I wired the LED inline and it didn't turn on. When I moved the ground from MS to chassis ground it turned...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 06-29-2013, 05:37 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,482
Posted By Freq
MS not grounding 139 pin 6?

I'm trying to figure out why my car stopped running a couple weeks ago. During troubleshooting I found there was no spark. I replaced the coil and the power stage with no change. I was showing proper...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 06-18-2013, 11:39 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 842
Posted By Freq
Is that a direct replacement for the 139 as far...

Is that a direct replacement for the 139 as far as not having to re-pin my connector or fiddle with MS settings?
Forum: aftermarket engine management 06-18-2013, 08:51 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 842
Posted By Freq
Tolerances for 139 (Saab) power stage

Hey guys,

I was leaving the track on Sunday (running media, not racing), and as I was driving through the back gates the motor cut out. Tried cranking again. And again. Nothing. Did some...
Forum: projects & restorations 04-28-2013, 09:05 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 29,004
Posted By Freq
Car still runs. ...

Car still runs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP-Dnuxq3HI
Forum: events 02-19-2013, 10:23 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 4,988
Posted By Freq
You over estimate me.

You over estimate me.
Forum: events 02-18-2013, 03:16 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 4,988
Posted By Freq
Boiiiiing boiiiiing boiiiing ...

Boiiiiing boiiiiing boiiiing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OswlZnhB_Lg

Who's got deets on the LS-swapped 240?
Forum: aftermarket engine management 01-21-2013, 12:44 AM
Replies: 1
Views: 791
Posted By Freq
No start after (seemingly) running fine

I've been using this car as my daily for months and it's been largely free of any MS-related issues. After replacing the in-tank pump with a Walbro 255 I ran into some hesitation and stalling issues...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-12-2012, 06:29 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
I'll check it out tonight; don't have time right...

I'll check it out tonight; don't have time right now.

In the past day or so my car went from normal-ish AFRs to way way rich most of the time. It feels like it has masses of power it didn't have...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-12-2012, 02:52 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Bought a new distributor cap and rotor today. I...

Bought a new distributor cap and rotor today. I didn't have time to put the new rotor on, but I put the new cap on. Car, idles, and runs way better. Idle is smooth and quiet and I feel like there's a...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-11-2012, 03:50 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Knock sensor isn't plugged in and the knock-based...

Knock sensor isn't plugged in and the knock-based retard is turned off.
Forum: maintenance & nonperformance 07-11-2012, 03:38 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,882
Posted By Freq
I'll give that a try. I already tried adding more...

I'll give that a try. I already tried adding more torques but to no effect. I do have some smoking but it's at high vacuum (20"+). Seems backwards? But maybe the smoke just gets diluted at higher...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-11-2012, 03:34 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
I'm running a wideband. The LC1 feeds into the MS...

I'm running a wideband. The LC1 feeds into the MS as well as a gauge in my center console. TPS only matters for calculating accel enrichment.

Edit: Current tune is here:...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-11-2012, 12:30 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
I got the MS as a 'kit' from Poik who built it...

I got the MS as a 'kit' from Poik who built it following this guide: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=121163

I'm following the steps to try make sure that everything is wired up...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-10-2012, 10:37 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
High pressure in-line is brand new. The in-tank...

High pressure in-line is brand new. The in-tank pump's sock is clean, not sure how well the pump itself works. I have a Walbro that needs to go in.
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-10-2012, 10:21 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Increased the req_fuel from 14 to 16 and set the...

Increased the req_fuel from 14 to 16 and set the trim angle back to ±0 and it drove normally up to just past 4,000 where it hesitated/misfired per usual. It's an improvement since before I had to run...
Forum: maintenance & nonperformance 07-10-2012, 10:02 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,882
Posted By Freq
Turbo oil lines/passages plugged?

Oil is coming out from the oil inlet, which is obviously problematic. The turbo also seems to be hotter than it should (not that I have a reference, but I don't remember my last turbo/motor being...
Forum: projects & restorations 07-09-2012, 06:08 AM
Replies: 340
Views: 29,004
Posted By Freq
That's the point. Mounted it in the glove box...

That's the point. Mounted it in the glove box since stereos have a habit of being borrowed by strangers.

Oh werd? I wasn't sure which I should be using, so I used the 3-wire since that's what my...
Forum: projects & restorations 07-08-2012, 08:03 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 29,004
Posted By Freq
IAC works well enough. Partially it's a MS...

IAC works well enough. Partially it's a MS setting, partially the quality of the idle. Addressing that later.

I installed my head unit today. Looks pretty clean IMO. Security through obscurity....
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-08-2012, 04:47 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Trigger angle: 10 Trigger angle addition: 0 ...

Trigger angle: 10
Trigger angle addition: 0
Cranking timing: Time based
Cranking angle advance: 10
Hold ignition: 1
Spark output inverted: No
Oddfire: No
Fixed angle: -10
Trim angle: 0...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-08-2012, 05:44 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
I don't think the plug can go on backwards? I...

I don't think the plug can go on backwards? I talked to Silver/Matt about reversing the wires and the consensus was that it wouldn't change the signal from 0v -> 5v to 5v -> 0v, but would actually...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-07-2012, 03:01 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Unfortunately I'll be gone all day but I will try...

Unfortunately I'll be gone all day but I will try this tomorrow.
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-07-2012, 12:03 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Went back out and completed steps 1-5 with the...

Went back out and completed steps 1-5 with the cap and dome thing off. This is where the vein was located.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2moypds.jpg
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-06-2012, 07:10 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Couldn't get the rotor off to get the black dome...

Couldn't get the rotor off to get the black dome off, so I pulled out the whole dizzy. The distributor shaft (I'm guessing that's what it's called?) wasn't spinning freely and was kind of clicking...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-06-2012, 06:23 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
I'm about to check right now. If it is the wrong...

I'm about to check right now. If it is the wrong way around could I put a different distributor in there? I didn't build the MS board I'm using and I have absolutely no interest in taking it...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-06-2012, 05:08 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Yup. Depends on timing, engine temp, ambient...

Yup.

Depends on timing, engine temp, ambient air temp, etc. but generally it's around 4500 now.

From left to right on the cap it's 4-3-1-2, yes?

I did not. Do I need to pull out the black...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-05-2012, 05:41 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Rather than plugging in numbers and hoping for...

Rather than plugging in numbers and hoping for the best I tried to find what my actual trigger angle should be for my setup. Following the guide in the MSExtra Manual...

1) Set the crank at TDC...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2012, 07:51 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
[disregard post]

[disregard post]
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2012, 06:37 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
I don't know how to explain it, so I'll draw...

I don't know how to explain it, so I'll draw pretty pictures.

With the crank at TDC this was my approximate range of motion with the dizzy (if you were looking at the back through the firewall)....
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2012, 05:51 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Yes, fixed at 10 so I could time it. ...

Yes, fixed at 10 so I could time it.



Should be MS1 v2.2. I didn't build the board, it came off a car that ran well with, at one point, a similar configuration to mine. Gonna go check the...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2012, 05:42 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Just did this last week but I'll do it again and...

Just did this last week but I'll do it again and report back.


The crank timing is set to time based, not trigger return.
http://i49.tinypic.com/29fce8j.png
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2012, 04:16 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
I'm trying that right now (I'm posting from the...

I'm trying that right now (I'm posting from the driver's seat), but the best result I'm able to get makes my engine sound like a lawn mower. I was able to get the RPMs up a little (with the trigger...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2012, 03:26 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
Running the car last night between 1-3am (cool...

Running the car last night between 1-3am (cool engine, cold air) it seemed to run really well (see previous post) but today with the exact same settings it was backfiring at 3k. I tried switching the...
Forum: aftermarket engine management 07-04-2012, 06:21 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,708
Posted By Freq
RPM is being read from the hall effect sensor in...

RPM is being read from the hall effect sensor in the dizzy. Ignition is using the 139 power stage, dwell set to fixed 75%. Trigger angle is 10 degrees and the timing is dead-on when fixed at 10...
Forum: maintenance & nonperformance 06-17-2012, 12:40 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,534
Posted By Freq
Replacing in-tank with Walbro; bypass inline?

Subject pretty much sums it up. I think I'm not getting enough (any?) gas under heavy load. I The in-line pump is brand new (couple months, less than 500 miles) so I'm 99% sure it's working just...
Forum: projects & restorations 05-28-2012, 01:58 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 29,004
Posted By Freq
Having issues getting the IAC to do, erm......

Having issues getting the IAC to do, erm... anything. Though reviewing the settings in my head I think I know what I'm doing wrong.

Edit: MS looked correct, so I'm guessing vacuum leak.
Forum: projects & restorations 05-28-2012, 12:41 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 29,004
Posted By Freq
Blew up the welded diff, replaced with a modded...

Blew up the welded diff, replaced with a modded G80. Replaced the DYI power steering reservoir with a factory one. ****'s gettin' better all the time. Next steps are figuring out what I'm gonna do...
Forum: maintenance & nonperformance 05-09-2012, 03:20 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 780
Posted By Freq
The car is being built as a turbo track car,...

The car is being built as a turbo track car, mostly drift and autocross.
Forum: maintenance & nonperformance 05-08-2012, 07:34 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 780
Posted By Freq
What thermostats fit B230s?

Do the thermostats for any other cars, preferably American cars for availability reasons, fit in redblocks? The local parts stores only have the 195F thermostats and I want to put a 180F thermostat...
Forum: projects & restorations 05-06-2012, 10:11 AM
Replies: 340
Views: 29,004
Posted By Freq
MS1 v2.2 with the 3-wire "straight-through" IAC...

MS1 v2.2 with the 3-wire "straight-through" IAC opposed to the 2 wire L-shaped one.
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