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engine stumble/bog on a cold B21ft

autoloclys

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Hi all, i have an 84 245 Ti that i am just getting back on the road after it sat for a couple years with the PO.

Since the history of the car is a little vague, I have replaced the battery, rotor & cap, plugs, ign wires, fuel filter, air filter and needed to swap the fuel distributor to address a missing cylinder.

im noticing an issue that is a little weird, but not really causing significant issues yet.

when the car is cold. giving it a small amount of gas, for instance stopping at a stop sign and then slowly inching out to make a turn into traffic, the rpms drop pretty low in what feels like a stall. giving it more gas seems to consistently bring it back out of the "bog zone" and i have not actually ever stalled the car when this happens. after 5-10 minutes of driving this issue seems to go away.

This is a kjet car, so everything about the fuel delivery is a little bit weird to me, but i am eager to learn. any advice is welcome.
 
Similar thing happened on my ‘79 kjet 244 - was a flaky thermo time switch. Would activate cold start injector and flood engine. If it happened under load or low RPMs car would die. Unplug the cold start injector and see what happens...
 
K-Jet uses 2 different methods to enrich the fuel mixture under load when cold. Both systems are dependent upon the thermal vacuum switch. Systems with hoses going to the CPR use boost pressure to raise the fuel pressure directly. Those with a differential pressure switch activate a circuit in the ECU that adjusts the dwell of the frequency valve to enrich the mixture.

TurboK-JetColdEnrichment.jpg


If the TVS isn't getting a good vacuum source or the hoses are split, the systems won't function properly. TVS's are known to fail as well. It should be open when cold and closed when warm.

ThermalControlValveHoseRouting.jpg
 
In general these are engines that have a warmup system but don't run all that well when cold. I always take it easy with the cold weather warmup driving on my turbo. It just isn't happy until fully warmed up. No real boost till the oil is hot.

Also during warmup with these I've noticed an in between zone where the o2 is still too cold to reference but the warmup is done. It will hunt at idle for a few minutes till the o2 is hot enough and the idle will smooth as the engine gets fully warm.
 
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