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Adrian's '78 245 DL+16v

It sounds really good, big displacement 16v 4cyl FTW. 1.6L honda 16V sounds ****ty.Looks like oodles of N/A fun

It's got more of the K20 yell than like a B16 fart, methinks. Still pretty heinous and loud though.

I like the wagon. I would have really liked to see it if I had been able to make ipd this year but I was too far away.

No worries, there's always next year. :-D

safracer said:
Needs more videos :-D

Gotcha covered.
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Yeah, I like that last vid. The motor really sounds smoother than the videos from the beginning. How do you go about getting those Youtube videos to show up in the post like that? Thats pretty neat.

What rpm do you typically shift at? It seems to really sing up there in the revs. I'm always surpised that my motor doesn't rev any better than it does. But I have a bit of an exhaust restriction ie. turbo. Its kinda like a banana in the tailpipe at high rpm.
 
Yeah, I like that last vid. The motor really sounds smoother than the videos from the beginning. How do you go about getting those Youtube videos to show up in the post like that? Thats pretty neat.

Most YouTube videos can be embedded, they include a little snippet of HTML on the page with the video, usually.

qwkswede said:
What rpm do you typically shift at? It seems to really sing up there in the revs. I'm always surpised that my motor doesn't rev any better than it does. But I have a bit of an exhaust restriction ie. turbo. Its kinda like a banana in the tailpipe at high rpm.

Rev limit's a 5k now, and it really doesn't come alive until 4k. I've got an unknown age oil pump gear on there and an unhappy water pump so I'm not winding it out yet. It's one of those things that's right up there on top of the list (I even have the parts on the shelf) but then it gets preempted by things like, oh, holes in the car. :rant: Then it's apart for so long that I'm really hesitant to take it apart again, because I just want to enjoy it again.

edit: It's got a JDM motor, it pulls like crazy in top end.
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Did you try upping the timing yet?

Yep. Fuel map is getting pretty close, EGO is within 10% or so most places, so I've finally started to look at the timing map before I head back to the fuel again. Ignition timing is a really really weird black art to me still, and some of the things don't entirely make sense. Like at 70-80kpa and 2000RPM, I'm feeding in crazy advance for it to not stutter. Try 40 degrees crazy. I'm thinking it might have to do with the B204's really short runners, I pull it back to a more sane 25ish in the top end IIRC. There's no audible ping, and more importantly, the plugs look really happy and dandy. The #2 plug is showing signs of a leaky injector though, and is what's causing that low-end misfire I think. 945ti's got a hookup on some cleaned greenies that I'll be putting in, but I'm not going to touch hardware until after the Lynden meet in a couple weekends.
I'm not going to tune that much around the bad injector, but I am going to mess around with warmups, accels, etc. and maybe fit up a K-jet idle valve.
 
Cool to see some pics. Did you notice any difference in handling relocating the battery? I still gotta get that done. Maybe I'll piddle with it a little today.
 
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GREEEAAAAAT SUCCESSSSSSS!

Swapped injectors to some cleaned late-model greentops, changed the oil pump pulley and bolt, moved the limit to 6k.
wahoooo!! It doesn't run like poo anymore cold or at low pulsewidths, it's rich as all get-out all over the place though. Lots of loud bangs out the back and orange flickering in following traffic. Car alarms all bow in deference.

Next up: water pump, then 7k.
Next up after that: boostu's.

Cool to see some pics. Did you notice any difference in handling relocating the battery? I still gotta get that done. Maybe I'll piddle with it a little today.

Handling difference? Not really. Ass-g-meter says "maybe a smidge". But now I have room up the wazoo for a truck intercooler.
 
Adrian,
Please tell more about the header/turbo setup. Am i seeing that right? It looks to be a pulse paired header. Is there a divided turbine housing under there?
 
Pulsed pair more or less equal length sched-40 heavy lunk feeding an HX35W with a paired 12cm2 exhaust housing heavy lunk of iron IIRC. For small displacement guys, most elect to go with a 9cm2 exhaust housing, which is as small as it gets in HX35 land IIRC. I am not sure if the 9cm2 one is paired as I have only seen 12 and 18cm2 T3 flanged holset housings.

You are tighter to the strut tower with a 16V 240 for sure, but there is a bit more room to elegantly make a "low mount" turbo in some ways with a 16V because one can bend the runners sharply up as they exit the head without smacking into the plug wires.
i see that audi WG, um...yeah...creep much?
Funny you should mention that. I have mixed feelings about the audi thing. It is absolutely perfect in the OEM app. Durable, heavy, durable and works fine on plenty of 4-500hp audis with various snails, which really isn't bad for such an old OEM heap of iron. Such said, it will need a good path off the collector and a rather frankenstein bracket to keep the heavy actuator happy and not cookin'.
 
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Damn, you've been busy beavers haven't ya? I can actually hear Adrian's maniacal "Ooh hehehe" shenanigans laugh right now...

Looking forward to seeing the results of this one!

M.
 
Adrian, you know you're actually going to have to TUNE your car once that's setup, riiiiiight?
 
Pulsed pair more or less equal length sched-40 heavy lunk feeding an HX35W with a paired 12cm2 exhaust housing heavy lunk of iron IIRC. For small displacement guys, most elect to go with a 9cm2 exhaust housing, which is as small as it gets in HX35 land IIRC. I am not sure if the 9cm2 one is paired as I have only seen 12 and 18cm2 T3 flanged holset housings.

You are tighter to the strut tower with a 16V 240 for sure, but there is a bit more room to elegantly make a "low mount" turbo in some ways with a 16V because one can bend the runners sharply up as they exit the head without smacking into the plug wires.

Funny you should mention that. I have mixed feelings about the audi thing. It is absolutely perfect in the OEM app. Durable, heavy, durable and works fine on plenty of 4-500hp audis with various snails, which really isn't bad for such an old OEM heap of iron. Such said, it will need a good path off the collector and a rather frankenstein bracket to keep the heavy actuator happy and not cookin'.

I have been considering taking a closer look at my Audi gate to see if there is some opportunity to open the inlet port up a few more millimeters to try and get a little more flow from it.. You might want to consider the same while you have it off the car.
With the divided housing, how are you going to vent both paths? Two Audi gates?
 
This is my drag strip call out post. Me vs. you. 16v vs. 16v. 242 vs. 245. NA+N2O vs. Turbo.

I will prevail.
11/1/2007
 
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