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Old 09-19-2008, 07:57 AM   #1
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Did some searching, probably not enough....anyways been wanting to lower my 242 even more lately and i would like to do it properly......almost.

On my last wagon i had the oldstyle ipd lowering springs, cut off about 1 1/2 coils, it got to the point where the spring would move if the car was off the ground......i want it stiff and low...hehe.....but NO loose springs...

I would love to hear how many coils can be taken off the tme springs or really any of the 240 lowering springs there all seemingly relative....anyways i will search showroom for now but yeah

HOW much you cut? Springs used? your finished product? pics please for inspiration
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:09 AM   #2
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i cut 2.75 coils off my fronts, no ac/ps, stock shocks and it feels like it's on the bumpstops. i dont mind it, it's stiff but my rears are stiffer and i think the front is fine except on a horrible road

speed bumps are a problem to say the least
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:35 AM   #3
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:57 AM   #4
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just enough so that when you go over a speed hump your springs pop out of the seats and up into the cabbin through the floor pan so that you regret cutting them in the first place and think that it would have been cheaper to buy a proper set then to cut them then to have them destroy your floor pan, back seats and any wiring that was in the (deep inhale of oxygen) way
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:06 AM   #5
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Or, as it happened to someone I know, you run over a turtle and your oil pan gets it. Talk about karma.
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:11 AM   #6
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hahahahaha. someone sig that.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:10 AM   #7
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just enough so that when you go over a speed hump your springs pop out of the seats and up into the cabbin through the floor pan so that you regret cutting them in the first place and think that it would have been cheaper to buy a proper set then to cut them then to have them destroy your floor pan, back seats and any wiring that was in the (deep inhale of oxygen) way
II haven't heard of that happening with one of these cars in the years that I've been on here. Even when people have less than half of their original spring in there. The only pain I've heard of is having to get it lined up right when you lower the car back down. In the two+ years that I've run with either 2.5 coils or 2 coils cut off the front springs, I've had no issues hitting basically full extension on my suspension. Then again, I don't take it off jumps every day.
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i cut 2.75 coils off my fronts, no ac/ps, stock shocks and it feels like it's on the bumpstops. i dont mind it, it's stiff but my rears are stiffer and i think the front is fine except on a horrible road

speed bumps are a problem to say the least
He's talking lowering springs, not the stock ones though.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:57 AM   #8
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most people cut off 1.5 to 2 coils on the front, That way it lowers your car about 40-50mm and does not ruin the handling.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:28 AM   #9
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most people cut off 1.5 to 2 coils on the front, That way it lowers your car about 40-50mm and does not ruin the handling.
I agree - i cut 2 and it was okay, then cut another (so 3) from front and back and it looked good but ruined the handling..
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:20 PM   #10
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Yeah, if you go over 2 1/2 coils front you end up with a crashing on the bumpstop "suspension". Any pothole is a potential disaster. It may look great lowered, but you will be wearing out strut inserts every 6 months (if not more because of blowing them out).. I know, I've had my 240's on 3 cut coils front , and 2 rear for a number of years now.

I finally realized with the crumbling California roads here and being tired of replacing strut inserts on a regular basis , why not "raise" the car up a bit? So I did.

I just cut 2 coils off front, and 3/4 coil off the rear to level it out, and gee the car handles better than ever, has something called "ride quality" and it is no longer bottoming out on every pothole or dip on these crumbling things they call roads here. The car has a good stance, but the wheels aren't tucked.. But oh well.

I guess coil-overs if you want it that low would be the "solution".
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:29 PM   #11
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ima cut mine until i get my coilovers
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:00 AM   #12
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okay I want to know how much I can cut off the ipd tme springs and still be able to have car off ground And springs not able to move.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:19 AM   #13
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Why don't you just find out? It's not really that much of a hassle. I doubt it's much more than a coil, if even that. I don't really know though, I haven't had any "240 lowering springs" before.

Send Homer a PM, I know he's had cut IPDs before, but he gave'm up because it was just too low. For him.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:38 AM   #14
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I'd say one coil and you'd probably be okay on them not falling off like before. Easy to always cut more, but you can never go back once you cut. I had to weld a little ridge on the front coil lower perch so my spring wouldn't fall out. I cut probably to much. I cut 1 and a quarter coils I think. I know that now I don't need spring compressors to put the nut on top of the strut. My springs are the old school IPD ones.

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Old 09-20-2008, 01:13 AM   #15
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After you cut them, if your car doesnt scrape everywhere, cut them more.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:24 AM   #16
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:26 AM   #17
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I cut 3 1/2 on stockers. Rough, but not on the bumpstops. It's easy, free, and easy to replace with uncut ones if you dislike it...
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I cut 3 1/2 on stockers. Rough, but not on the bumpstops. It's easy, free, and easy to replace with uncut ones if you dislike it...
That doesn't answer his question. He already has ipd lowering springs and he is asking how much to cut off of those.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:36 AM   #19
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Why don't you just find out? It's not really that much of a hassle. I doubt it's much more than a coil, if even that.
Agreed! Cut a coil and I'll bet you are good to go.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:51 PM   #20
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just enough so that when you go over a speed hump your springs pop out of the seats and up into the cabbin through the floor pan so that you regret cutting them in the first place and think that it would have been cheaper to buy a proper set then to cut them then to have them destroy your floor pan, back seats and any wiring that was in the (deep inhale of oxygen) way
I've had my orange 242 on 2 wheels after hitting the curbing around a racetrack and I have jumped my black 245 (Ross "byte1032" was with me). I've never had a cut spring fall out of place.
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I've had my orange 242 on 2 wheels after hitting the curbing around a racetrack and I have jumped my black 245 (Ross "byte1032" was with me). I've never had a cut spring fall out of place.
yeah me either, i allways hose clamped them to the perch
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After you cut them, if your car doesnt scrape everywhere, cut them more.
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:12 PM   #23
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yeah me either, i allways hose clamped them to the perch
I don't think Pat's ever done that. Another one of the guys in Cali(Paul, Pat's friend) always cuts a certain amount of coils from the TME springs on every 240 that he chopped for "just the right height", lol. Or at least I remember him saying that somewhere. I don't remember how much he chops off.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:52 PM   #24
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Thanks Kyle lol. Well it seems that home says ipd springs are barely loose when uncut? Could strut types have different lengths of expansion? I am runny billy's
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:05 PM   #25
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come on guy, i did mine in 45 mins on a hill and no spring compressors. all by myself. just get out there and do it, you can allways cut more
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