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MikeSr.'s 242 V-8 project

i think i got my motor in now with no mods to the x member with he mast pan! ill post pics soon for those who would like to see.
 
HaHa!!

I believe that I have the templates for the cutout on the crossmember, is that something that you are intersted in? I could scan them and email them over to you if you are.

Sean

Yes-that would help a lot. Jr. got a good look at it and I think he has a good idea where the cuts should be. Did you reroute the brake lines? We took them off to fit the motor- they are right in the way.
 
"Its a big unit when its all together so its slide it all in, mark the spot, move it all back out, make an adjustment slide it in over and over again."

Sean - I think you might have posted this in the wrong forum....:oops:
 
Yes-that would help a lot. Jr. got a good look at it and I think he has a good idea where the cuts should be. Did you reroute the brake lines? We took them off to fit the motor- they are right in the way.

mine clear with a half inch clearance. i knotched my crossmember assuming i would need to... now i see otherwise!
 
if only i didnt assume it wouldnt fit! damnit! cut it for no reason..
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also only one mount is on for the pictured... waiting on ploy in the mail for the drivers side :-(
 
Higher? My engines half inch off the crossmember. You physically cant go lower unless you lower the rack?
 
Sorry, I meant the mount position on the frame rail. We were going lower to the crossmember. I like your idea for placement. Did you use longer bolts?
What tranny are you using? The T56 with the shifter in a usable spot in the Volvo shifter hole won't allow any further rearward positioning. Our Hummer pan clears vertically, but the lowest part of the pan is gonna be an inch or two into the crossmember.
 
When I put the LS3 in mine, I'm pretty sure I'm going with mounts that drop straight down to the cross member. I want to preserve as much space over to the frame rail as possible for more flexibility with exhaust manifolds and the steering shaft.
 
I Have hooker headers they clear with tuns of space. Tranny is still my built up ford t5 so I can keep my drivshaft crossmember etc. If that blows I'll get a tko box. Bolts are super long factory with this 1/4 plate under them the bolt still sticks out 1/8 past the nut!
 
I Have hooker headers they clear with tuns of space. Tranny is still my built up ford t5 so I can keep my drivshaft crossmember etc. If that blows I'll get a tko box. Bolts are super long factory with this 1/4 plate under them the bolt still sticks out 1/8 past the nut!
First off, I like your design, but I do have some questions. What about steering column clearance using that design? Are there any issues? I also wonder about not having any bolts holding the vertical part of the plate to the verticle part of the rail. It seems that by only using two top bolts there would be some upward movement from torque at least on one side, which would put stress on those bolts, and allow the mount brackets to move. I wonder if it would be better to just weld the plates to the rails and still have the two bolt holes for the crossmember bolts.

As long as there is no issues on the driverside with the steering column, exhaust, and headers than I think this is the design we'll use.
 
If I sold it as a kit I was going to have a hole in the vertical part if the frame rail plate where the customers could run a half inch bolt threw. Otherwise a simple one inch stitch weld would suffice at the corner of the vertical plate. Honestly I intend to run it with the two bolts I did it with the 16v for two years.
 
Its interesting that you have tons of clearance with your setup 242gt. I am guessing it is because of the use of the t5 tranny. WIth the t56, the transmission really dictates the location of the engine in these cars withoug building an entire new tunnell. If you did not notch the crossmember for clearance, I bet that you would not have been able to physically get the motor in the car with the oil pan on it. I thought the same thing.

Like I said before, if I had it to do over again, I would just put a t-5 behind the ls powerplant, although you have to buy a bellhousing and figure out input shaft, pressure plate and flywheel I think it is a better all around setup.

Have I mentioned how big a t56 is compared to a tiny little t-5?

Mike, I will try and get those scanned and emailed over to you in the next couple days.

Keep going.

Sean
 
Honestly I intend to run it with the two bolts I did it with the 16v for two years.
Yeah you might not ever have any issues at all with just the two bolts, and even if you did it would only take a small weld to correct it. No way to tell I guess until you do a little trial and error with it.
 
242gt - what flywheel/clutch/pressure plate did you use to accept the T5 input shaft? I'm going with a built T5 as well. 60 lbs. lighter than the T56, much smaller physically, and about 30HP more efficient behind a 350HP V8. And let's face it - with 430HP/410 lb-ft of torque moving 2950 lbs and the ability to select gear ratios on the 5 speed, the 6th gear isn't necessary.
 
Some new update pics: The Moose is back!
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Jr. did a lot of work today.
Motor in its final centered position.
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Cut crossmember:
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Surgery on the hump: T5 shifter on the T56.
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looks good from this angle!
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Nice!
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The solenoid is the biggest clearance issue.
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Centered in the tunnel.
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The crossmember has to be notched more for installation than for clearance.
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looks good!
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This is all Jr.'s work. Many thanks, son

Updated with pics refreshed. Cat was walking on the keyboard.
 
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