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Old 06-29-2017, 03:11 PM   #1
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Default Do i REALLY need $200 Konis for a low 240?

I got the IPD sport springs for my 91 240.

I know I need a better strut, that has a shorter shaft so it doesn't bottom out.

I hear Koni's are the best. buuut.. they're also a bit pricey... Now, i'm going to save up for a set, but until then..

Is there anything compatible with the short springs that ISN'T 200 bucks a pop?

Or should I just wait and save?




Also: I know I'm going to end up with a stiff/harsh ride. I don't care. Because race car.

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Old 06-29-2017, 03:13 PM   #2
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:36 PM   #3
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:36 PM   #4
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What are you goals for the car? If you ar just going low for the sake of low, ride out on whatever is in the car currently.

If you are going for a weekend warrior type of deal, Koni's are great. I find the Billy HD's to be great for a daily, and the Koni's are manageable.

If you're going full monty "because race car" there are better options.

Budget and anticipated use are going to dictate a lot of what you Should be using.

Do lots of people bottom out on IPD sport springs? I'm waaaaay lower and don't really hit the stops.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:06 PM   #5
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Bilstein B6 (what HDs are called today) shocks cost about half of Koni's.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BILSTEIN...NWdKYx&vxp=mtr
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:09 PM   #6
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:13 PM   #7
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I'm going to do the ipd sport springs with Billy B6's(HDs). I found this: http://www.shockwarehouse.com/index....cted_year=1991
That's where I'll be going for new struts/shocks.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:51 PM   #8
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I have IPD lowering springs and stock struts and shocks. My junk has been fine.
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:25 PM   #9
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I have IPD lowering springs and stock struts and shocks. My junk has been fine.
Yeah, my slow 240 has 2 coils cut and factory struts/cheapo shocks.
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:27 PM   #10
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Just going to throw in there that I have been extremely happy with my koni's. Ease of install and included gland nut included.
And they perform awesome as far as my plebeian ignorant butt can tell.
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:34 PM   #11
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They dont fit.
I have 91 spindles in my 83 (because, dumbasses)...

They most certainly fit. Unless you've modded your housings?
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:41 PM   #12
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I have 91 spindles in my 83 (because, dumbasses)...
Um, yeah. Not you guys...

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Old 06-30-2017, 09:51 AM   #13
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I have IPD lowering springs and stock struts and shocks. My junk has been fine.


I have the same set up, My plan is/was to get the car running and driving so that I can make changes to it with out guessing. I knew I wanted the IPD springs and have heard about the difference between koni and billys so I wanted to drive it first to help me decide.

After driving it around (500 plus miles so far) its a tad bit bouncy in the rear over whoop type bumps. The ride is a little soft for being a lowered car. Although it soaks up pot holes very nice. Not as good as my stock 240 does, but you can't expect it to be.

At this point I am thinking dollar for dollar and daily driving the Billys will be just fine.
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:36 AM   #14
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you don't need anything really..
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:55 AM   #15
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you don't need anything really..
Except oxygen, water and occasional food and shelter.

But other stuff is nice to have from time to time as well.

Back to the topic;

Koni or Billy shocks may provide a better ride. I don't know, as I've never used them. But you can use the stock shocks with IPD springs. Will it be the best ride ever? I don't know, but you won't die from it.
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Old 06-30-2017, 03:06 PM   #16
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I have 91 spindles in my 83 (because, dumbasses)...

They most certainly fit. Unless you've modded your housings?
No mods. They are simply too long. cant engage more than one or two threads on that gland nut.
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Old 06-30-2017, 03:13 PM   #17
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When you had the struts disassembled, did you check for a spacer in the tube?

It's been a while since I've even worked on Volvos so my memory is foggy on this. But, it seems that occasionally there would be inserted in the end of the strut tube a small metal bushing for adapting certain inserts.

Anyway, buy whatever makes you happy. I suggested Bilsteins because I am a lifelong fan. YMMV
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Old 06-30-2017, 03:56 PM   #18
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The spacer is welded in on the later stut tubes.

So options are cheap basic Bilstein B4, KYB etc
Koni or GAZ without spending time grinding out the spacer
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:00 PM   #19
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shockwarehouse is kind of a joke... i had a bad experience with them... NOT EASY RETURNS. try summit. they will price match anyone online. i found my truck bilsteins cheaper and got summit to beat the price by $1 on each shock

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I'm going to do the ipd sport springs with Billy B6's(HDs). I found this: http://www.shockwarehouse.com/index....cted_year=1991
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Old 07-01-2017, 07:56 AM   #20
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I have Bilstein B8 Sprint on my 40mm lowerd 945, It works realy nice!
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:08 PM   #21
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I shortened my HD Billies, or that outer tube about 3 mm from bottom. Otherwise my gland nut was in only one round. Also stickers and some paint had to go, fitment was so tight. 90 struts and unrenovable spacers.
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:14 PM   #22
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okay, thanks guys.... I think im just gonna go ahead and get the Koni's. I've been buying once piece per pay check, i think i can wait 4 more weeks.

I got most of my stuff in the mail!
Steering wheel, ipd springs, tie rod ends, ipd panhard rod, ball joints, ipd plug wires, Sway bars are ordered just waiting for them to show next week.
Oh and i still need the hub for the momo

I'm too too sure if i need anything else. Can you guys recommend any other bits and bobs i might want to get? Maybe bushings or ....?or what have you?


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Old 07-02-2017, 02:53 PM   #23
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Adjustable torque rods.
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Old 07-02-2017, 11:49 PM   #24
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Adjustable torque rods.
okay cool anything else? Maybe the rubber things for the top of the front springs?
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:28 AM   #25
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okay cool anything else? Maybe the rubber things for the top of the front springs?
If yours are healthy, probably good to keep 'em - the new aftermarkets are failing left and right...

but grab 15A's strut plates from For Sale to reinforce them either way
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