320bhp N/A 5 cylinder engine - Page 5

Karl Buchka · 11-19-2009, 11:32 PM

Enem makes a few different grinds for 5 cylinders. So does Köhler Racing.

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Originally Posted by previasc96

You make it seem like your major focus was 300hp naturally aspirated. It that's the case then maybe u should go with the honda k series... just my opinion anyway. IF you're prejudice against honda, you can make that power with a Ford Duratec.

Well, ****. Why not just use a Chevy smallblock? Hell, go for a big block! Get a 454. They had 360hp from the factory!

Turbeam · 11-20-2009, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by L8 APEKS

That said...so long as you can find a decent set of cams for the whiteblock, 300 n/a should be a relative cakewalk. The engine has enough going for it in terms of displacement and valves. It certainly won't be cheap - I'd HATE to see the price tag of custom cams and full headwork with O/S valves - but it would be easily possible if you had the money to invest in it.

...does anyone even make off the shelf "sport" cams for the whiteblocks? I've never even bothered looking.

That seems to be the main problem when trying to go N/A on these, despite their obvious potential in other areas.

Maybe the use of the 5-cylinder in the Focus will in time improve the situation a little as far as more availability of larger production run special parts, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

.... and it won't help the 6-cylinder situation much either.

It is a shame there aren't more performance parts around to build the N/A 5 (or the 6) less expensively, but there just can't be much demand for these sort of parts for use either in or out of a Volvo.
There is also now a large choice of other alternative and suitable modern engines which are better catered for in the performance aftermarket, and it is even just so much cheaper and easier to cobble together a medium boost turbo 5 installation to give the same sort of results.

You should be applauded for daring to go down a different path from the 'easy route' that most take though, and running something different or unusual is at least half the fun in my book... if it doesn't break the bank!

itb242 · 12-08-2009, 05:15 PM

I assume this is the N/RN series engines. Have you considered the RNC as used in the S40/C70/C30/Focus? This is a more compact engine (Revised N-series Compact). The Volvo folks said the "potential power output" for this engine would exceed the RN series. The smaller size would help packaging and installation.

David

AustenW · 12-17-2009, 08:40 AM

Cat Cams in Belgium make billet cams for the Volvo 5cyl and supply anyone, prices are about £550 the pair

Gabe244 · 12-17-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AustenW

Cat Cams in Belgium make billet cams for the Volvo 5cyl and supply anyone, prices are about £550 the pair

. You could buy a used 454 for that

.

AustenW · 01-02-2010, 10:04 AM

Power comes at a price unfortunately

Johann · 01-07-2010, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AustenW

Cat Cams in Belgium make billet cams for the Volvo 5cyl and supply anyone, prices are about £550 the pair

Current exchange rate incl. VAT and no dealer discounts I think the cams and properly matched valvetrain will bring it to double that price minimum.

Chris Wilson · 01-07-2010, 05:57 PM

Just been reading this thread and started wondering if the AustenW was someone I knew. When I saw the plenum on his old turbo Ford I knew it was. Hiya Austen, you love weird and wonderful projects as much as I do

Happy New Year. You asked how the 4A-GE was getting on, I took this photo today for you ;) Austen made me the plenum on my 4AGE Formula Atlantic turbo engine, and a lovely job he did, too.

Getting there!

AustenW · 01-20-2010, 08:15 AM

Hi Chris, nice job, looking good

AustenW · 01-20-2010, 08:16 AM

Put these on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...STRK:MESELX:IT

Chris Wilson · 01-20-2010, 09:52 AM

Nice sump pans Austen, what would be involved in making one to fit the 6 cylinder white blocks?

AustenW · 01-20-2010, 10:15 AM

The 5 cylinders were hard enough, may consider it if I got 5 deposits from people

Chris Wilson · 01-20-2010, 03:37 PM

Patience is a virtue Austen ;) Always liked to imagine the ali 6 pot Volvo was the new 2JZ GTE Toyota. My imagination is sometimes freelance

AustenW · 05-10-2010, 01:27 PM

After over a year of waiting I finally got my head and cams back from QEP / Cat Cams

Just need to get some pistons made and I can start bolting the engine together.

Need to redress the inlet valve seat area and skim the head also

L8 APEKS · 05-10-2010, 01:54 PM

Holy cow. That's pretty!

Chris Wilson · 05-10-2010, 06:00 PM

Looking good Austen, I'll give you a bell this week to catch up on things, are you now able to proceed with this build? My projects are still unfinished, bar one :(

dieselboy · 05-10-2010, 06:16 PM

Wow... What size valves? What throttle bodies are those?

AuzVolv · 05-11-2010, 01:52 AM

Nice job!.................How do you time the cam shafts?

Captain Bondo · 05-11-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AuzVolv

Nice job!.................How do you time the cam shafts?

They appear to have slots on the back of them like any normal whiteblock cam...

lookforjoe · 05-11-2010, 01:14 PM

Very Purdy!!! Nice workmanship!

AustenW · 05-11-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dieselboy

Wow... What size valves? What throttle bodies are those?

35mm inlet 31mm exh

Jenvey Dynamics ITB's

2fast4u · 05-11-2010, 03:16 PM

I'd love to hear the exhaust note

AustenW · 05-11-2010, 03:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvcv3...os=04CanpRST6Y

L8 APEKS · 05-11-2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustenW

35mm inlet 31mm exh

Jenvey Dynamics ITB's

Tell us how much it cost. Please???

kildea · 05-11-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L8 APEKS

...so long as you can find a decent set of cams for the whiteblock, 300 n/a should be a relative cakewalk. The engine has enough going for it in terms of displacement and valves...

i don't think i'd call it a cakewalk, rather a frigg'n feat of the awesome.

sure the heads flow great, but if we are talking about a 5-cyl then he's going to have to spin it pretty fast to move that much air n/a - and the 90mm stroke whiteblock isn't endowed with an ideal geometry for the high-revving - as it comes from the factory at least.

i think it'll cost a bunch of money, and it'll be hard as hell to get right, and so high-five to the the dude who's doing it

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12-08-2009, 05:15 PM	#103
itb242 Board Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Houston, Texas	I assume this is the N/RN series engines. Have you considered the RNC as used in the S40/C70/C30/Focus? This is a more compact engine (Revised N-series Compact). The Volvo folks said the "potential power output" for this engine would exceed the RN series. The smaller size would help packaging and installation. David

12-17-2009, 08:40 AM	#104
AustenW Board Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Cat Cams in Belgium make billet cams for the Volvo 5cyl and supply anyone, prices are about £550 the pair

01-02-2010, 10:04 AM	#106
AustenW Board Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Power comes at a price unfortunately

01-07-2010, 05:57 PM	#108
Chris Wilson Board Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Shropshire, England, UK	Just been reading this thread and started wondering if the AustenW was someone I knew. When I saw the plenum on his old turbo Ford I knew it was. Hiya Austen, you love weird and wonderful projects as much as I do Happy New Year. You asked how the 4A-GE was getting on, I took this photo today for you ;) Austen made me the plenum on my 4AGE Formula Atlantic turbo engine, and a lovely job he did, too. Getting there!

01-20-2010, 08:15 AM	#109
AustenW Board Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Hi Chris, nice job, looking good

01-20-2010, 08:16 AM	#110
AustenW Board Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Put these on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...STRK:MESELX:IT

01-20-2010, 09:52 AM	#111
Chris Wilson Board Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Shropshire, England, UK	Nice sump pans Austen, what would be involved in making one to fit the 6 cylinder white blocks?

01-20-2010, 10:15 AM	#112
AustenW Board Member Join Date: Feb 2008	The 5 cylinders were hard enough, may consider it if I got 5 deposits from people

01-20-2010, 03:37 PM	#113
Chris Wilson Board Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Shropshire, England, UK	Patience is a virtue Austen ;) Always liked to imagine the ali 6 pot Volvo was the new 2JZ GTE Toyota. My imagination is sometimes freelance

05-10-2010, 01:27 PM	#114
AustenW Board Member Join Date: Feb 2008	After over a year of waiting I finally got my head and cams back from QEP / Cat Cams Just need to get some pistons made and I can start bolting the engine together. Need to redress the inlet valve seat area and skim the head also

05-10-2010, 06:00 PM	#116
Chris Wilson Board Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Shropshire, England, UK	Looking good Austen, I'll give you a bell this week to catch up on things, are you now able to proceed with this build? My projects are still unfinished, bar one :(

05-11-2010, 01:52 AM	#118
AuzVolv Board Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Perth, Aus	Nice job!.................How do you time the cam shafts?

05-11-2010, 03:21 PM	#123
AustenW Board Member Join Date: Feb 2008	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvcv3...os=04CanpRST6Y