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2001 V70 Superturbo build

Buy a car with broken drivetrain and have it shipped.

Manual transmission in Volvo destroy its own third gear when it sees a turbo. Auto trans is good for about 300hp then it will forget to shift or forget it has fourth gear.

You're going to built a mad car, so just buy a shell and work from that.
 
I wouldn't necessarily give up on a 91-93 240 wagon, they're out there. I had to wait a bit to find mine, but "a bit" was two months, and I wanted one with working AC too.

The inline 6 diesel in that went in the early 240s was a VW engine, no relation at all to the whiteblock I5/I6 engines we're talking about here.

Consider the idea that having a running 240 wagon and separately building up an engine you've pulled from junkyard car on a stand is easier. It is possible to have the engine built and even started with whatever you choose for EMS whilst still on the stand. Stock 240 wagons make pretty good junkyard cars too :nod:

If it's inspiration you desire:

http://turbobricks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219119

That's a I5 into a 240 sedan. Here's an I6 into a 240 wagon:

http://www.turbobricks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117753

There's a ton of good information in those two threads.
 
which is second best to the 240? In case I have to go there because the late model 240's are hard to find. I don't want to go too early because then service gets questionable. I need it to run decent as is so the family has wheels till I get the v70 rebuilt and back on the road. Then the project starts.

So far the best I've found if the mileage is true, but it's a stock photo gonna have to contact them and ask for real pics. also no price
https://cars.trovit.com/listing/used-1992-volvo-240-base-wagon-for-sale-near-atlanta.g1KW1U1J1Q1u6

Then there's this but they want 3 times the value might offer them $3,000 with the explanation that's still $1,000 above value and likely the most they will ever get for it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Volvo-240-/182870534030

First you're going to dump ~$25+ K in a ground up build, and now you're carping about a lousy thousand bucks?
 
First you're going to dump ~$25+ K in a ground up build, and now you're carping about a lousy thousand bucks?

not the thousand but the four thousand above KBB value that they are asking for that one. and yeah of course. It's perfectly logical to want to save as much money as I can on the build regardless. The less any given thing costs, even the car the more I have for other parts. The faster I can purchase everything needed. The sooner the build can be completed. So obviously I'm going to try for the best price I can for any given item.
 
not the thousand but the four thousand above KBB value that they are asking for that one.
There will be certain models and options that will bring really good money. Throw KBB out the window if you want a nice one with super low miles. I've seen stockers go for well over $10k.
 
There will be certain models and options that will bring really good money. Throw KBB out the window if you want a nice one with super low miles. I've seen stockers go for well over $10k.

:nod:

Pulling an otherwise nice one off of the side of somebody's house that needs a clutch or fuel pump relay was so 2007.

The internet is the great equalizer, gotta pay to play the 240 game anymore unless you buy a dead field rat that needs everything.

Which wouldn't be so bad if you're planning on a $25K ground up build anyway.

:e-shrug:
 
Hello and yes your reading that title correctly. This is my first post here I did not see any restrictions on new member posts so If I am breaking any rules please forgive me and allow me to do whatever is required before I add to this.

Ok so heres the story about three years ago i bought this bitchin 2001 v70 2.4t for a mere $600. the family had been allowing their son to drive it and he'd ruined the turbo leaking oil into the exhaust and smoking enough to make James bond jealous. One fifteen dollar rebuild kit later and she no longer smokes and has been running great ever since. I like to know my car so I got a repair manual and started studying up with it and online. Suffice to say I fell in love with volvo's engine design. Well in the process of all this learning I found out about the newer R version and the T5's etc. Now i am planning on getting an 04 R this coming year and have begun planning a rebuild/huge upgrade to the 01. I'd like to make these ricer guys and the V8 lovers around here laugh and cry. Laugh when I tell them my volvo wagon will beat them and cry when it does.

I'm going to tear the engine completely down and CNC the cylinders out replacing them with wet sleeves. Performance and billet everything internals, head studs, race suspension, larger intercooler, etc. It's all going to take some time I'm not rich but so long as I have a daily driver I can take my time with this project.

Now the meat and potatoes of my post. Originally I was going to go for a twin turbo set up one low pressure one high pressure to minimize lag. low pressure probably just the stock one with a ball bearing instead of the journal bearing and a really nice high pressure aiming at near 1,000 ponies. Then I found out about the newer "E-drive" engines and what volvo has managed there, a 2 liter super turbo with 300 horses the only 300+ HP 2 liter production engine in existence. I want to emulate that but on a much larger power scale. Wanted to see what info anyone has on superchargers that will fit my engine with as little modification as possible. Of course still gonna go with a high pressure ball bearing turbo to back that up.

so yes I know that this is crazy and I might just blow the head off studs be damned etc. The cars seen better days and with the torture that that kid put it through I think it's gonna need a rebuild anyways. I just wanna have fun and experiment. If I destroy anything I'll learn the limits, the billet parts will likely survive, and I can do it again tamed down to live long with a different head and block ( can find them all over for about $300 used).

And the questions part. First has anyone had their head ported and whats a good place in the states to send it to? lots of air has to have lots of room. are there any aftermarket headers out there for these? If not that's something I can have made in fact if all else fails any machining I can likely get done at a friends work but it's not what they usually do so looking for an experienced machinist who has ported heads and built headers before as well as cnc milled out cylinders. East coast US preferred as close to NC as possible doesn't have to be all one place. Then there's the supercharger. I can get just about any turbo the only real constraint is space because I don't want the car to look abnormal so not cutting holes in the hood or nothing. However I cannot find any source for a supercharger that might fit or at least is small enough and could be modified to fit. worse case scenario due to the cost is to buy one of the ones they made for the new engines but unless I find one that's been wrecked that is a choice that would likely fall to me going back to the twin turbo plan.

So any and all ideas and input are welcome even the negative, also if anyone knows how to get sponsored some or a few freebie parts that'd be great. When it comes time to turn wrenches I will video document the entire process very thoroughly because it will also give volvo owners allot of how to guides on nearly every mechanical and suspension part in the car, something that you tube is sorely lacking for these vehicles compared to more popular imports and domestics.

Hope this isn't too much of a TLDR for a first post and some of you guys can help me plan this thing out. Heres to Fast Volvo's!

Well I am gonna RWD it as well but nope no v8 swap. Just because I didn't mention it doesn't mean it will not be done. This post is all about the engine and a setup that will draw the most HP possible from it.

Yeah of course going to put a manual trans in it too. Actually was going to ask about transmissions that will fit that are maybe sturdier than even the stock manuals for these cars. Didn't know about anything else that small making 300+ when they first developed it in 2015 the claim was that it was the only one. Of course how would i know i haven't been studying any other auto makers new engines.

oh and yeah I know about Robert DIY he's got some good stuff but it's all over the place and he has only covered maybe a quarter of the process to build these engines. Not knocking him he's a good guy knows his stuff but have chatted with him he doesn't know where to go with my plan. Roberts a stock kinda guy he's done some modifications like a manual swap to take advantage of the power he has but he's not looking to anything extreme.

So what about that says I don't know what I'm doing? standard internals will not handle the pressure and RPM's I'm aiming for. Standard cylinders will just split from the pressure. What do you see so wrong? I mean I am asking for advice, but your only passing judgement.

all right trying to get back to multiple replies at once. Yes i know people have done this with 850's and such even the vid above with just about the same car though that looks like a R and definitely newer but practically the same engine. Yes gonna turn the engine 90 and get the trans directly to the engine, transfer case would not handle this if I left it opposed.
It's a little to be different around here because everyone and their momma has an american engine built up in the southern US. But also because of the challenge and enjoyment of doing it. The fact that there's people saying it's been done in one way or the other is a nice rebuttal to those saying blow my money on hookers etc. As far as my mommas volvo well that comment seems to indicate you think I'm a kid. 37 years old bro deal with it. a kid would start buying parts and never get it done. I am planning very meticulously and have a long list of parts already hunted down and bookmarked. Not one penny will be spent till I know I've found everything to make this work and have sorted out what to do about any foreseeable kink. Of course i'm sure I'll come across the unexpected, that's how these things go, but meticulous planning will minimize that.

What's not to take serious if it's been done before? Sorry all work I've done previously has been for other people so was busy getting it done not snapping pics, gotta make that money!

You guys aren't fans of the phrase "go big or go home" at all are yah?

Going to have my friend that works in the machine shop handle any welding he's got 17 years of experience on that building parts for industrial machines. The guy can weld anything.

said it before but to touch up on the subject yes I have a friend that works in a machine shop my best friend in fact and I have a copy of and know how to design parts on solid works so when it comes down to it I can have most anything fabricated and if it can be done with scrap lying around the shop for free, at most paying for the metal that is used. Trying to keep it simple on that end or I'd just design and make my own supercharger. so many comments from people stuck in the box.

yes ceramic bearings. was gonna whine about having to go over the unmentioned details but i guess in your own twisted way your trying to look out will def throw up a thanks to anyone who mentions something I didn't already think of.

hey man I'm not trying to do this over night. a little at a time. Like I said not rich the cost alone is gonna make this take a couple years.

Sorry I assumed you would understand by billet everything I meant the engines bottom end internals. It's not buzzwords I've heard. My main pc is down right now liquid cooler leaked so my parts list is unavailable but would posting what I've found so far give some credibility? If so I'll swap the hard drive and get that on here when I get back from taking these kids trick or treating. I taught myself to build high performance pc's and repair just about everything digital have been doing that for years. I've always done all my own auto repairs and household repairs. I know my way around things and have a very broad skill set. gotta go be back later.

Delusions huh? What I want to do is perfectly possible. had one guy say you'll see newbies come on here say they are gonna do something awesome then never hear from them again. Ever think maybe it's the negative criticism and calling a persons project a delusion. I know if I were a young aspiring gear head and got treated this way I would likely not come back to a place who's members berated me called me delusional and did all they could to make me give up hope of any success. I only explained the whole project in general because I knew people would ask what for If I just came asking about finding a few parts.

I used to design parts but actually in the case of something like that I'd just scale down a design that is already done, duh.

I just wanted to know where I might find a supercharger that will fit with little to no modification. otherwise i'm good. gonna shut down and come back with my parts list so far.since apparently a finished project in a couple years isn't enough I have to prove myself beforehand just to get a question answered.

no I would not have started already because I don't have money like that and am still driving the car. are you guys actually reading the post or just skimming for stuff to pick on? the idea in the post was for people who have done similar to throw in in case there is something I didn't think of. As well as looking for a source for a small supercharger that will fit. I'm planning it all out, once I take the car off the road I'm going to very slowly pull apart and clean everything that is staying. while doing that with my spare time I will buy parts a little at a time. Once everything is bought and in hand I will begin assembly and fabrication. ok gonna go get that list keep seeing stuff and it's distracting. I guess it shouldn't bother me any and doesn't much. No one here has a clue who I am or what I am capable of. Just kinda disappointing so many would assume I know nothing and it's just a pipe dream in a place I thought would be more supportive and direct me to a ****ing supercharger.

It still needs allot more and theres plenty of parts I haven't chosen yet. I also want to get new wiring harnesses and such but just gonna go with stock on that stuff as much as possible so will likely be sourcing that direct from volvo.

989.99 - Cylinder sleeves- http://www.vivaperformance.com/darton-cylinder-sleeves-volvo-5-cylinder-turbo-engines/
505.84 - Pistons - https://www.carid.com/dss-racing/ds...rged-piston-set-with-pin-locks-487279838.html
482.31 - Connecting rods - http://www.vivaperformance.com/k1-forged-h-beam-connecting-rods-143mm-volvo-s60r-v70r-s60-v70-t5/
2186.13 - Crankshaft - https://www.acm.se/en/product/acm-billet-vevaxel-white-engine-5-cyl-100-mm
120.55 - crankbearingset - https://www.acm.se/en/product/crankshaft-bearing-volvo-white-engine-5-cyl-glyco
183.64 - conrod bearing set - https://www.acm.se/en/product/conrod-bearing-white-engine-5-cyl-sputter
139.57 - Piston rings 1 four set and single - https://www.summitracing.com/search...w=SKU&sortby=Default&sortorder=Ascending&ar=1
8.96 - Front Crankshaft seal - https://www.ipdusa.com/products/11282/124731-front-crankshaft-seal
16.16 - rear crankshaft seal - https://www.ipdusa.com/products/7064/112977-rear-crankshaft-seal
113.03 - wide crank sprocket - https://www.acm.se/en/product/crankshaft-steel-sprocket-volvo-b230-2
1000 - Camchafts - http://www.vivaperformance.com/performance-camshafts-volvo/
9.99 x2 - Camshaft seal Front- http://www.vivaperformance.com/elring-vvt-camshaft-seal-front/
4.99 x2 - Camshaft seal rear - http://www.vivaperformance.com/elring-vvt-camshaft-seal-rear/
309.03 - CVVT Pulley intake - https://www.ipdusa.com/products/10258/121641-intake-camshaft-cvvt-pulley
331.73 - CVVT Pulley Exhaust - https://www.ipdusa.com/products/10259/121642-exhaust-camshaft-cvvt-pulley
131.74 x2 - Cam Gear - https://www.acm.se/en/product/camshaft-sprocket-adjustable-volvo-white-engine
271.99 - Timing belt, pulleys, water pump kit - http://www.vivaperformance.com/volvo-timing-belt-kits/
65.97 - Harmonic balancer pulley -https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atp-102141/overview/make/volvo
50.00 x10 - intake valve - http://www.vivaperformance.com/stainless-steel-intake-valve-upgrade/
65.00 x10 - Exhaust Valve - http://www.vivaperformance.com/inconel-exhaust-valves/
700 - valve springs and top retainer - http://www.vivaperformance.com/competition-valve-spring-retainer-kit-volvo-5-cyl-6-cyl-engines/
2.08 x20 - Valve lock - https://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/2001/volvo/v70/engine_mechanical/valve_spring_retainer_keeper.html
3.76 x20 - Lashcaps - https://www.acm.se/en/product/lash-cap-6-mm-shaft-thickness-2-0-mm

No but i meant more in the way of 'your going to blow it up make sure you do this and that'. not just an out right 'your clueless go flip burgers and give up'.

I don't think I have the right piston rings on the list I actually need some that are a bit smaller or I'll have to file the gap so the ends don't touch from heat expansion because that will break the piston.

Nope just a crappy cooler that sprung a leak can't run an eight core cpu without one.

every time I look google wants to give me nothing if I specify the car and only larger ones for american v8's otherwise. I would expect something made for a small Japanese import would work but don't know what's the closest fit. That is the kind of info I'm looking for, either where to get one someone knows will fit or which import to put in my search terms to find one.

And there you go theG-60 supercharger may just do the trick but if there's more options I would want to check them all out get a full rundown on specs and see which would best work for this. Either way finally a real answer. THANK YOU!

There's allot of things that go by RSI gonna have to be more specific but I suspect your just poking as well.

Will keep that in mind for the wiring should I need it. THANK YOU!

No doubt hence the part where I've repeatedly said I'm gonna spend a couple years just to buy the parts. I haven't said budget at all till just now only that I'm not rich, this will take time.

The block is about the only thing that will remain original and the one I'm going to modify is the non R. Yeah though if I don't sleeve it and change out the internals it would just be a question of which part will give out first. As far as the basic block internals replaced and sleeved it really wouldn't make much difference which engine I start with. It will all get reinforced including a jacket coating. The parts that will undergo the abuse will all be getting replaced first so yeah the block is mostly just a shell to hold everything together and have water around it to keep it cool. There's not much variation between the different models of white blocks aside from bore. Really that does not matter as much with the amount of reinforced parts and modifications I'm going to do to it.

You've done this before? you know what needs welded and such? it's not going to require as much as you seem to think and it would not be the entire structure of the car. Just modify the firewall to turn the engine 90 degrees and figure out new mounting points. you make it sound like I wanna put a big block in it and make it a rock crawler.

Yes what's the issue there? stock one will not handle what I wanna throw at it.

lol it might just end up being a diesel turbo,high pressure is high pressure regardless of original part intent, but not that big. They appear to only be doing semi truck parts. might be useful for the concepts though. THANKS

Yeah I've seen that car It's really nice. Not exactly what I'm going for but still sweet. There's video out there of him doing burn outs in it and a half baked kinda interview. The guy seems kinda camera shy runs over some quick explanations of what he did but got the impression he just wanted to drive it for the camera.

well thank you in all my research this past year hadn't found Volvo Rsi somehow. You've got to be kidding about the rockcrawler. That would actually require modifying the entire chassis. They don't even make a suspension that would fit it'd be insane. You'd just have to go without a firewall and have a quarter of the engine sitting in the cab with you. Seating steering entire dash and rear wheels would all have to be pushed back some how. That's an impossible build sir. At least now I know your incapable of seeing what's being said in your minds eye. Not to be insulting but if your serious then yeah you aren't picturing it at all.

Nope I'll take my time instead thanks though.

I'm not sure I understand what your asking. If I do then it seems pretty obvious once rotated you no longer need the FWD transfer case, change out necessary parts for a manual transmission and mount it like any other. Put a RWD rear end under it and a drive shaft to connect them. Swap out front end cv axles for the front end off a RWD. Did you think I'd try to keep the same drive train or something?

I get it I don't agree that it's the right approach but I get it. the way I see it the people that are full of it will go either way. the ones that are gonna stay will likely stay without the chiding but with may just say oh well and go after all because they wanted like minded people or whatever they want that could vary allot. Then like I said them younguns might give up on something they could have been really good at because they came here and got shut down.

As far as being honest with myself well. It will cost a lot of cash but a little at a time won't hurt me. I don't plan on firing it up and maxing out my pressure right off. Rather start where I know is good like 19 PSI and ramp it up a little at a time till my face hurts from smiling over the results. No reason to go further than that. I know I'm capable of doing the work, that is the least of my worries. The big fear is overdoing the turbo pressure and ruining those nice new parts but like I say not going to see if it can take everything the turbo can put out. I don't even plan on regularly racing it maybe a couple times a year. mostly it will be a well built engine with power I'll rarely use that will last a long time since I will not be abusing it so much. I will take it to car shows because no one around here has a built up volvo and it's just not what most americans think of when they hear the name. In general I already know people that have been surprised that it goes like it does stock and the reaction is funny to me. I want to laugh even harder! That honest enough?

true, and if it can be centered over the front wheels or any further back I will do it. Ideally you'd put all that weight dead center of the car for best handling but I'm not building a MR. Probably will end up sitting very similar to Henrik Mattsson's. Doubt I'll be building a custom space frame though. I will measure and work it out and use the bare block to test fit. I'm all about the experience of doing the work otherwise I'd just save up and buy something already built and finished. At one time I wanted to project an RX7 but they are getting rare and the value has been increasing to where I wouldn't want to change it after spending the money to buy a stock one worth building. besides the reaction from people to a built Volvo wagon will be much more worth the effort.

Because most volvo owners just want a safe ride that gets them from point a to point b without allot of hassle and in comfort. Because very few Volvo owners would even bother to modify the car at all. because those that do choose to modify just want to give it a little more power and it's not necessary for just a little more power within range of the transfer cases ability. Which is where most modifications people do would sit. because most people are modifying a car they want to be able to drive again within a day or two and aren't going to take it off the road and rebuild it for allot of power like this. Come on, it isn't a matter of simplicity and it will be hard work but it's simply not necessary for common upgrades.

theres other ways to reach the same goals. Exhaust has a tunnel right down the middle. Does the exhaust have to take up that space? No. can a drive shaft fit there? Yes. The rear suspension, axle, and mounts shouldn't need much work if off of the same or similar model. Now If I were to put a corvette rear end Like Henrik or anything else then lots more work. I'll have to work it out but I haven't even gotten to that part of planning yet. Probably won't untill i've got the engine out the car and can actually see what i'm working with. Still planning the engine right now. One thing at a time. You have to cross a bridge one step at a time, try to jump it all at once your just gonna fall off.

Who knows plans might change once I have the engine out. I just want to enjoy the experience and have something special I built when it's all said and done. Did not come here with a 'I'll take anything on' trash talking mindset. Sorry if I gave that impression with my comment about whooping a V8. I just think a Volvo wagon beating something like a mustang would be funny. I figure if I give it equal or more power than a stock Mustang GT, it weighs about 300 Lbs less, and gear it right, the power to weight ratio makes it a easy win. Will I actually race it against one I honestly don't know. Might end up scared to risk breaking it after all that work.

Umm I'm not throwing fits here, being dramatic, overly emotional, unpredictable, not seeking to be the center of attention, nor do I think I'm better than anybody.

I made a post that explained in general what I was doing because I knew I'd get asked anyways for the purpose of asking where to find a couple parts and get input for things I might not have thought of. I'm working my way through answering replies of all types because I like every human being do not like being insulted and the positive replies either need discussion or a thanks. Much like with your post I was attacked and had to be defensive on some, as I am now being. What about this fits what you've said? nothing. That's all I need to say about that.

well though I feel like I was some disturbed peoples emotional punching bag for the day (I hope they got it out their system) it's no skin off my back and I did get some answers so thanks to the good guys on here. Probably come back just for cleanup on any late comers that have a bad attitude or to read posts from any good guys that have more ideas. It will be march before I start the tear down though so not much else to say... till then!

It was more a joke on that part than a goal buddy but you took it so personal like I made the whole post just that. So cute with all that pent up aggression lol.

It literally comes from this joke. man walks into a bar says I bet I can make that horse out there laugh. Bartender says I'll take that bet. Man walks out whispers in the horses ear and it starts laughing hysterically. The bartender pays up. the man says I'll give you a chance to win your money back, I bet now I can make him cry. The bartender takes the bet. The man walks out but all the bartender sees is he undoes his belt then the horse starts bawling like a baby. man comes back in The bartender says all right I'll pay but what did you do? The man says well first I told him my **** was bigger then I showed him.

Sorry if that offends anyone I did sensor it but had to explain the joke to butthurt mcgee here.

Ok so now your falsifying quotes and calling me butthurt. wow You guys are the ones seeming butthurt that I would try to do this. You know what your all right I've never done anything this extensive before but engine wise I know that I can. Chassis will be a learn as I go experience. Everyone had a first time doing everything they have ever done. Does that mean they will inevitably fail? no. I know that I am capable of learning and succeeding in anything I try because I have never failed.

So whats everybody's big problem with me spending my money to extremely modify my car in the way I want? that is what I don't get. It's not your stuff. Yet you guys are the ones seeming butt hurt over this. It's like you got tired of 4chan and came here to troll instead. Some of you have been aggressively helpful but those special little guys that haven't, yeah your just the sweetest little bolt dolts aren't yah.

who knows maybe I will. Honestly the car has been driven on low to no oil for who knows how long by the previous owner before I bought it and rebuilt the turbo. I'm surprised it didn't die already. It is in need of a rebuild because i'm sure the bearings and rings are nearly shot. If I keep it and rebuild it then I'd want to power up in the process.

If I just tried to sell it as is. It's expensive to have work done and very few that would buy a cheap older car will have the skills to repair whatever breaks especially on a Volvo. No one I've ever spoken to in person even the gear heads around here even know that it's 5cyl with no head gasket. So it would end up bought by a junk yard parted out and crushed anyways.

I figure I already have this why spend extra cash on another to modify. If nothing else do the engine work if the chassis proves too much to deal with then find a RWD that someone already yanked the engine from and drop it in that.

Virginia originally but in NC now.

I will when work begins and there is video up. Early stuff will bore you it's gonna just basically be how to tear down and rebuild the engine. Only thing special will be the billet internals but still the same process.

Wow THANKS ALLOT that is the kind of info I was looking for. Definitely have to fabricate the mounting but it looks like it's just what I was looking for. The G60 vw supercharger was not a bad idea but this is more like what I want.

It's both. "a lot" is one large group "allot" is many. Depends on what you mean.

sorry I like to make sure I am clear in what I say especially after the way some things have been taken here.

For you and T8fanning. No it's not one piece nor billet. but volvo does not use a head gasket on this engine they use an anaerobic sealant applied very thin. I'm pretty sure OEM parts are mostly forged internals in volvo's and cast block. The fact your trying to poke fun at me saying it doesn't have a head gasket, when it doesn't, makes me wonder why your even here.

Ok, this is where I stopped reading....it got too embarrassing for me.
 
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