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Old 06-11-2018, 12:13 AM   #26
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You should do that to transfer a layer of pad material to the disk surface anyway, even if not freshly machined/replaced as you should.
No argument, I agree, but for OEM or ostensibly equivalent pads installed on fresh rotors, I would expect safe braking performance in normal conditions immediately, and no untoward effects from a lack of hard bedding; within a couple-three hundred miles of normal use, they should be at maximum performance, whatever that may be. Fade after a few miles of light or moderate braking downhill sounds no good to me.

I have a little less than a half inch left on mine and I'm taking them to Palmer MSP for a track night later this month. I have some good-ass brakes right now but curious to see what happens with another cumulative hour of hard use.
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Old 06-11-2018, 10:07 AM   #27
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I always "bed in" / heat cycle pads to burn off the junk and eliminate the weird first 100-200 miles garbage. 10-20 light to progressively firmer 0-45-0 cycles will do it. Once you see the new pads smoke out, then you know they are ready. Yes, they will stink and smoke a little to get burned in. After that, you are good to go!
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Old 06-11-2018, 07:40 PM   #28
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The EBC pads also came with a bed in enhancing coating on the pads to help with the process so you won't have to do so many bed in stops.
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Old 06-11-2018, 10:03 PM   #29
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^^^^ is true. That coating also really helps scrape the pad buildup off the rotors. Scared the crap outa me first time I heard it though, sounded like I was stopping with some 60-grit on the pads. lol
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I always "bed in" / heat cycle pads to burn off the junk and eliminate the weird first 100-200 miles garbage. 10-20 light to progressively firmer 0-45-0 cycles will do it. Once you see the new pads smoke out, then you know they are ready. Yes, they will stink and smoke a little to get burned in. After that, you are good to go!
This is good advice to get the resin out of low end pads and help them work better. The cycles help cut the two surfaces into each other. The heat helps drive out lubricants, coat the rotor, and prepare the pad for harder work
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:30 AM   #31
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This is good advice to get the resin out of low end pads and help them work better. The cycles help cut the two surfaces into each other. The heat helps drive out lubricants, coat the rotor, and prepare the pad for harder work
I don't think this is as necessary with ceramic based pads, definitely organic and semi metallic pads require a baking in process. The pads are designed like this and you need to get them as hot as you'll ever get them, if you exceed this temperature later on the pad will start to fade at the higher temperature.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:44 AM   #32
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True enough - but for "low end pads" which I excluded ceramics from in my mind despite how common and cheap they are, it is a good idea. :-)
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:38 AM   #33
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Napa has PBR ceramic pads for 240.
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Old 07-10-2018, 10:44 AM   #34
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Since there's another thread about EBC on sale, I will update to say that after one more track hour my yellows have ~1/8" left.

So, excellent pads while they last, very short life.
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To help my rotors last longer with such aggressive pads. I had them cryogenic hardened. They have lasted through three sets of the ebc greens and are still good.
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Old 07-10-2018, 03:39 PM   #36
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One thing that's surprising (to me,) my rotors are still nearly perfect, can barely tell any material is missing even with a fingernail. Just cheapo Centric flats. After going through a set of aggro pads in about a month I would expect to see more damage.
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I'm with you Dave. I've had several sets on different vehicles cryo'd plus I'll be cryo'ing the pads as well. The 850R has cryo'd pads and rotors on it, sold it with 50k on the brakes, still at 50% or better. Mom's last grand caravan got 95k on pads, rotors were spotless, where she would get 30k on pads normally. Also got the S60R rotors on mine cryo'd and they show no signs of wear at all, with around 60k and PLENTY of abuse.
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