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Old 08-08-2017, 09:24 AM   #1
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Default front lower control arm rear bushings, same?

Hi couldn't find the answer for my clunk in the front during low speed turning, but I read where left side rear bushing is different from right. I read that this is because there is greater pressure on the drivers side?:help
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:43 AM   #2
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They are the same.
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:57 AM   #3
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Frustrating, I have checked the cross member bolts for tight (100lbs) checked the steering rack for tight (torqued to spec) checked the gland nut (Bilstien HD) could not get to move (couple threads showing).
New ball joints,ipd sways, ipd front bushing kit 125381, did not replace strut bearing as they did not seem worn. This is a turn the wheel almost full lock and pop or clunk, sometimes also reversing over bump. Any other things? I'm trying to figure without going to the shop.
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:00 AM   #4
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I'm in the EXACT same boat (minus new bushings). Upper mounts checked OK. Only difference here is that my rack is on the way out, both bellows full of P/S oil. Have you checked that?
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:00 AM   #5
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Buddy suggests I've got the wrong bolt in the bushing as it is not Volvo just a 12mm with washer/washer and nylock. He suggests manufactures sometime differ in size???
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:12 AM   #6
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I do not have any leaking and reservoir stays the same so Im pretty sure not the problem. I was just reading another thread and someone claimed the 2 rear bushings L and R were different volvo part #s.
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:38 AM   #7
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Check your sway bar end link bushings.
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Old 08-08-2017, 12:32 PM   #8
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Check your sway bar end link bushings.
This is something that I had happen. They're cheap and easy if there's any doubt.
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:10 PM   #9
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Early 200 series cars did use different bushings left & right, but were updated to the same bushing.



Try tightening the 3 bolts that hold the rear bushing bracket to the frame. The bracket can shift under high loads and cause a clunking noise.
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:28 PM   #10
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Frustrating, I have checked the cross member bolts for tight (100lbs) checked the steering rack for tight (torqued to spec) checked the gland nut (Bilstien HD) could not get to move (couple threads showing).
New ball joints,ipd sways, ipd front bushing kit 125381, did not replace strut bearing as they did not seem worn. This is a turn the wheel almost full lock and pop or clunk, sometimes also reversing over bump. Any other things? I'm trying to figure without going to the shop.
Stock springs?

Top hat could be binding up and when you turn causing the spring and top hat to pop as they move on each other. Worth checking if you are out of ideas.
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:58 PM   #11
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Top hat could be binding up and when you turn causing the spring and top hat to pop as they move on each other.

I mentioned this in his other thread. Glad someone else agrees.
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I mentioned this in his other thread. Glad someone else agrees.
I agree with you guys agreement. I just did a front end job on my friends 1990 wagon and his does this when backing up turning the wheel. Otherwise quiet. we chalked it up to the spring and seat popping as described. Not gonna worry about it.
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I agree with you guys agreement. I just did a front end job on my friends 1990 wagon and his does this when backing up turning the wheel. Otherwise quiet. we chalked it up to the spring and seat popping as described. Not gonna worry about it.
I think I read that there is a proper orientation to the springs. Could the incorrect orientation cause popping?
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I think I read that there is a proper orientation to the springs. Could the incorrect orientation cause popping?
Anything is possible. There's a specified orientation for the rear springs.
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:59 PM   #15
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Stock springs?

Top hat could be binding up and when you turn causing the spring and top hat to pop as they move on each other. Worth checking if you are out of ideas.
Very common issue. That would be what I would suspect first considering all the work you just did. My 940 does it all the time. It is annoying as heck. Aftermarket replacement strut mounts on that car. I have a feeling the bearings on those are low quality.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:44 PM   #16
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I think I read that there is a proper orientation to the springs. Could the incorrect orientation cause popping?
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Isn't popping what break dancers do?
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They are the IPD sport springs??
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Very common issue. That would be what I would suspect first considering all the work you just did. My 940 does it all the time. It is annoying as heck. Aftermarket replacement strut mounts on that car. I have a feeling the bearings on those are low quality.
Do 240s do it as well? The described situations and noises sound very similar to what I've had since I bought the thing. Always figured it was something like that.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:04 PM   #20
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Late comment:

My suspension popping turned out to be a failing lower rear bushing even though it was a new Turkey/India/RockAuto/et. al. bushing. Couldn't be felt by hand up/down/left/right but when removed it was obvious that the rubber/sleeve was in the process of separation.

Two pro shops had not identified the problem.
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How can one tell the proper orientation of the springs?
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Old 08-09-2017, 01:46 AM   #22
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How can one tell the proper orientation of the springs?
They have indents where the ends fit. Top and bottom.
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They have indents where the ends fit. Top and bottom.
I had "popping" only after installing new Lesjofors HD springs up front. I worried the Bils HD's weren't matching up (As I wasn't able to remove gland nut &/or check for bottom cartridge spacer, &/or after riding inside IPD lower springs). After a question to Quilc, he mentioned spring seating (I forgot about it). On the driver's side I fussed & twisted the spring with cloth on it, & a vise-grip, yet on the pass side, I did nothing except raise then lower. Later both springs re-seated themselves. No more "clunking"
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Old 08-09-2017, 07:54 AM   #24
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My noise feels like it is coming more from the floor (lower rear bushing?)than the strut. Testpoint what did you end up replacing with as this may be my situation, even though bushings are relatively new.
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Clunk or clank ?
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