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Old 11-07-2007, 08:54 PM   #1
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Default Debunking the t5 myth

They're junk.


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Old 11-07-2007, 08:57 PM   #2
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the heeb has spoken........ you may all depart.

how so is the turbo 5 cylinder a piece of trash? I know it is, but everybody else might not.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:58 PM   #4
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So, you have kilt it?

Well, you do make more power than it's rated for.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:00 PM   #5
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the heeb has spoken........ you may all depart.

how so is the turbo 5 cylinder a piece of trash? I know it is, but everybody else might not.
the transmission not the engine... haha.


now the heeb needs to put an auto in there for IFO this weekend.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:01 PM   #6
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how so is the turbo 5 cylinder a piece of trash? I know it is, but everybody else might not.
Wrong T5

But you might already know that.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:02 PM   #7
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someone needs to put a Richmond 5 speed in a 240 they might hold up..
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:05 PM   #8
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I asked the mustang crowd, they came back with "we replace that piece of **** with a tremec, they don't reliably hold power".


So for approximately $1200usd, you can swap in a transmission that will shift nicer than an m46 and might hold 50-60 more hp semi-reliably. At the rate i'm going through t5's now (the latest has been retired in a cool 60 miles, without abusing it) I can replace aw's 5 to 1 and possibly come out ahead in the number of passes at the track.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:05 PM   #9
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someone needs to put a Richmond 5 speed in a 240 they might hold up..
I was looking at one not too long ago, I'm just not at the stage where I can really justify a square toothed gear non-synchroed gearbox.

now linuxman on the other hand.....................
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:11 PM   #10
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uhhhh.

maybe i SHOULD just get a manual valved th350
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:13 PM   #11
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uhhhh.

maybe i SHOULD just get a manual valved th350
700r4 please
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:13 PM   #12
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Time for a T56? Hey at least the shifter will be in the right spot!
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:19 PM   #13
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and what do you propose to do with the .5 ratio 6th gear?


why 700r4?
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:21 PM   #14
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and what do you propose to do with the .5 ratio 6th gear?


why 700r4?
because 3 spds are a joke
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:23 PM   #15
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Well, they are a nice thing for the other 95% of us.
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because 3 spds are a joke
what about th400 then?

seems like as chevy autos go, drag racers like the th350 and 400 more than the 700r4
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I asked the mustang crowd, they came back with "we replace that piece of **** with a tremec, they don't reliably hold power".


So for approximately $1200usd, you can swap in a transmission that will shift nicer than an m46 and might hold 50-60 more hp semi-reliably. At the rate i'm going through t5's now (the latest has been retired in a cool 60 miles, without abusing it) I can replace aw's 5 to 1 and possibly come out ahead in the number of passes at the track.
Yup, the die hard T5 guys go with a G-Force or an Astro Performance T5. That guy in that thread now has a thread about G-Forces. He was running a stocker for a few years making 420 or so HP.
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what about th400 then?

seems like as chevy autos go, drag racers like the th350 and 400 more than the 700r4
Aren't they the same internals?
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:33 PM   #19
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Man just throw a AW in there for sh*ts and giggles and see what happens.

I now this guy whos got a 600+whp firebird and he told me the same thing. He said t5s are **** and if you want a manual that can hold alot of hp you need a t56. But damn you'd end up spending like $2500 on that install.

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Old 11-07-2007, 09:34 PM   #20
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near enough. tci has conversion kits to make a 700r4 into a th400...or was it the other way around

either way I'd be looking at 2-3grand for an automatic transmission.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:35 PM   #21
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I have been telling the whole board they were junk for 8 years, but noooooo.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:36 PM   #22
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Chevy guys sell built automatic transmissions for way, way, wayy less than that every day..... And I don't see how a T56 would cost $2500 to install unless you bought it brand new.
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and what do you propose to do with the .5 ratio 6th gear?


why 700r4?
who cares about the extra gear it can just sit there and be useless.

and you notice cars with th350/400s are usually cars that dont see much street driving at all, not to mention interstate driving.....
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:40 PM   #24
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The combination I would like is a muncie m22 with m21 guts and a gear vendors overdrive on the back of it. That tranny less the overdrive lived behind my chevelles 800hp for about a year.. They shift really nice and have a near perfect gear spread.

For all out drags though you can't beat a powerglide, high stall like 4500 and one shift. And you'd break less stuff after the tranny.

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who cares about the extra gear it can just sit there and be useless.

and you notice cars with th350/400s are usually cars that dont see much street driving at all, not to mention interstate driving.....
no, i didn't notice that. I dont really know a damn thing about chevy autos other than that my v8 wagon has one (700r4).

so, what cars came with t56s?
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