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Old 01-05-2018, 05:40 PM   #1
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Default Has anyone removed the rain gutters above the windows?

I did a quick electrical tape job to see how my 244 would look with black trim and really like the look. I'll be painting the trim that wraps around the whole car, but I don't really like the look of the giant rain gutter flaps on each side of the car. I'm wondering if anyone has ever removed them and if it affects the drain effectiveness. If it's a drastic change, I'll probably just paint those too and leave them on.
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:42 PM   #2
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Cutting off the rain gutters along the whole side? It's a structural element, FWIW, it's where the roof panel is welded to the side panels. If you cut it out you'd have to seam weld that whole area.
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Cutting off the rain gutters along the whole side? It's a structural element, FWIW, it's where the roof panel is welded to the side panels. If you cut it out you'd have to seam weld that whole area.
I mean the chrome trim that wraps around that.
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Some 240's come without it and it's less noticeable on the 92's & 93's when it's painted black.

OP did you rip off the side trim yet?
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I mean the chrome trim that wraps around that.
My friend removed the chrome trim part on his 1985 244. It looks alright. It doesn't look so pretty towards the top rear corner of the back windows. It kinda flares out a little unnaturally without the trim covering it and it has some holes in it if I could recall correctly..
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Old 01-05-2018, 06:14 PM   #6
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Some 240's come without it and it's less noticeable on the 92's & 93's when it's painted black.

OP did you rip off the side trim yet?
No I haven't ripped them off yet, I want to get the paint first and some proper trim removal tools. Don't want to scratch the paint.
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Old 01-05-2018, 06:19 PM   #7
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My friend removed the chrome trim part on his 1985 244. It looks alright. It doesn't look so pretty towards the top rear corner of the back windows. It kinda flares out a little unnaturally without the trim covering it and it has some holes in it if I could recall correctly..
Yeah I see the flared out parts you're talking about. I'll remove one side and see If I like it or not. I'll probably get something like edge trim to cover the exposed metal.
https://www.amazon.com/MATCC-Guards-...ords=edge+trim
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*drip rail trim*
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Old 01-05-2018, 06:57 PM   #9
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Some 240's come without it and it's less noticeable on the 92's & 93's when it's painted black.

OP did you rip off the side trim yet?
I like my black trim rain gutters. #gangstah
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I like my black trim rain gutters. #gangstah
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Take a look here. 1992-93 240s come with blacked out trim.

https://www.google.com/search?q=1993...w=1680&bih=917
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Take a look here. 1992-93 240s come with blacked out trim.

https://www.google.com/search?q=1993...w=1680&bih=917
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Take a look here. 1992-93 240s come with blacked out trim.

https://www.google.com/search?q=1993...w=1680&bih=917
A lot of those don't even seem to have the big "drip rail trim" that my 244 has.
Chrome trim: https://imgur.com/gallery/T7fUf
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Old 01-05-2018, 11:17 PM   #14
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I really thought you were thinking of cutting the gutter off entirely. Which has been done and is really awkward looking.
The mid-80s cars had the really thick trim. Turbos all black and everything else chrome and black. Removal is not hard but chances that the trim has rubbed on the paint significantly over the years is high.
Early cars often had no trim or thin chrome trim. 80s got the big stuff. In the 90s they went back to thin trim black or chrome.

Here's my 242 without trim as I got it:



And after I added the thin black trim from a 93:

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I really thought you were thinking of cutting the gutter off entirely. Which has been done and is really awkward looking.
The mid-80s cars had the really thick trim. Turbos all black and everything else chrome and black. Removal is not hard but chances that the trim has rubbed on the paint significantly over the years is high.
Early cars often had no trim or thin chrome trim. 80s got the big stuff. In the 90s they went back to thin trim black or chrome.

Here's my 242 without trim as I got it:



And after I added the thin black trim from a 93:

Damn clean car dude. Yeah I kinda like the slightly thicker side trim on my 87, but it's just those big flaps on the gutter that turns me off. I'm going to remove the trim tomorrow and wipe down all the excess ash from the Thomas Fire that for sure got caught up in there. Then I'll see if i can get some trim from a newer 240 or get some edge trim from Amazon and stick it on there for now.
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A lot of those don't even seem to have the big "drip rail trim" that my 244 has.
Chrome trim: https://imgur.com/gallery/T7fUf
The 240 Turbo / mid years wide stuff is pearl anodized aluminum alloy, not stainless or 'chrome' per se.

But yes it is pretty ugly so I replaced it with some black painted narrow stuff from a 93 245 when I painted my 82 245 GLT.
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The 240 Turbo / mid years wide stuff is pearl anodized aluminum alloy, not stainless or 'chrome' per se.

But yes it is pretty ugly so I replaced it with some black painted narrow stuff from a 93 245 when I painted my 82 245 GLT.
Yeah I like the thicker belt trim since it gives a better contrast look. The thinner trim makes it look more like a pinstripe, doesn't fit the 240 for me. Maybe I'll test the tape's longevity instead of painting the belt trim for now, it looks pretty good as is.
Electrical tape trim: https://imgur.com/gallery/9dJM6
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The belt line is at the bottom of the windows, you're talking about side trim.
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Old 01-06-2018, 01:22 AM   #19
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The belt line is at the bottom of the windows, you're talking about side trim.
I'm a noob to trim names. But when I look up Volvo 240 belt trim, all that comes up are the side ones and the ones right above the front and rear bumper.
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To answer your original question as it reads
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Has anyone removed the rain gutters above the windows?
Yes Eli completely shaved the drip rails when he made the mustard colored 143, and it was unlivable in the rain because every time the doors were opened you got soaking wet.
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I'm a noob to trim names. But when I look up Volvo 240 belt trim, all that comes up are the side ones and the ones right above the front and rear bumper.
That's bumper filler trim.
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To answer your original question as it reads

Yes Eli completely shaved the drip rails when he made the mustard colored 143, and it was unlivable in the rain because every time the doors were opened you got soaking wet.
I meant to put the giant drip rail trim instead of the rail itself. I understand that I would get soaked every time it would rain in SoCal, which is never.

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I meant to put the giant drip rail trim instead of the rail itself. I understand that I would get soaked every time it would rain in SoCal, which is never.




I still don't understand your question.
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:35 PM   #24
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I still don't understand your question.
I meant to ask if anyone has removed the drip rail trim before and if it affected the drain effectiveness. I already removed it on both sides. Looks a lot better without them. I might tape up the exposed spot later though, some of the paint is chipped off and there is a bit of stained paint where one of the trim must've been rusting out.
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A better question may have been; How does one remove the drip rail trim without turning it into a corkscrew and chipping up the paint?
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