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Old 12-16-2017, 02:54 PM   #1
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Apparently there are 2 superpro setups. 1 with and 1 without shell. Apparently I bought the one without the shells. Turns out, I need a shell.

Anybody know where to get shells? OR... can I snag some garbage rubber bushing and just use that shell with the poly?

I might try and snake a shell from my rusty donor car but... seems less than ideal. Plus, then I'm just putting it back on the ground with no rear suspension support. Ideas?
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Old 12-16-2017, 03:00 PM   #2
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There aren't shells on your car right now with the old beat bushings? You get those old bushings out of there and destroy the rubber by burning it out or however you can get the rubber out of there. Then clean up your old shell and install. I've read here that you don't even remove the old shell. Just remove the trailing arm and destroy the rubber in place. Just be very careful if you use a torch around the back of the car.
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Old 12-16-2017, 03:02 PM   #3
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There aren't shells on your car right now with the old beat bushings? You get those old bushings out of there and destroy the rubber by burning it out or however you can get the rubber out of there. Then clean up your old shell and install. I've read here that you don't even remove the old shell. Just remove the trailing arm and destroy the rubber in place. Just be very careful if you use a torch around the back of the car.
Shells are there, but on one side the shell is destroyed and the bushing is oozing itself out lol.

So I need one shell.
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Old 12-16-2017, 04:26 PM   #4
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I just checked the ones on my donor car and they all have some beginnings of splitting as well. This however, is the one on my 245.



Sooo yeah... need shells. Lesigh.
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Old 12-16-2017, 04:35 PM   #5
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I mean, I suppose I could always just ghetto rig something? The shell only prevents the bushing from doing what it's currently doing no? I wonder how the poly would work here...
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Buy some OE Lemförders for ~$50 plus the ride, install them, get real and *profit*.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:46 PM   #7
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Squad.

Finally getting back around to this hot action. My preggo bushing shell has ALMOST birthed out it's bushing. I know these need that fun tool (which I have assembled) to be pressed in and out. BUT... since mine are hashed anyhow... can I just sawzall through it or something?

Basically... what's my path of least resistance in removing these old destroyed ones? If it's still that press tool, fine. But I've got new shells and new poly now so...
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Are the old shells still useable ?
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:55 PM   #9
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No.... well, what I want to say is... as you can see from the picture, no... they're not. But the fact that you ask me this leads me to inquire as to... what makes the shell usable or not usable? Because the bushing birthing out of the shell as it seems to be doing in the above pic I posted (unless no one can see this) would seem not usable to me?

I have new shells now and bushings though so...?
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Further question I guess is... is this a scenario where I can simply wrap a piece of steel and banding around the damaged shell? I can't imagine that would be ideal? I also have delusions of grandeur of getting this car to pass tech for VIR this season. But I'm not sure it'll make the 2 hour drive there, a thrash, and back without a healthy dose of service in between lol.
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No.... well, what I want to say is... as you can see from the picture, no... they're not. But the fact that you ask me this leads me to inquire as to... what makes the shell usable or not usable? Because the bushing birthing out of the shell as it seems to be doing in the above pic I posted (unless no one can see this) would seem not usable to me?
Can't see the picture but the shells should still be good unless they're rusted out.

Generally one just carves / wire wheels the rubber out and slips the poly bushings in.

Done deal.

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I have new shells now and bushings though so...?
The gold colored ones?
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The new shells have gold centers.
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The new shells have gold centers.
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The new shells have gold centers.
Are they the same steel as golden washers?

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Y U NO Lemförder?
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Can you see it now? I need shells. I have gold IPD poly shells.

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Y U NO Lemförder?
I was going to grab them but the metal looked thicker and I have all this poly. So then I was like I'll get these, burn the centers out and end up not fitting poly in them.

I'm still completely prepared to eat my words when the poly sucks, but rn my driveshaft rubs on shifts because of the gyro forces on the diff. So I'm hoping with it centered... it just bloody works.
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Can you see it now? I need shells. I have gold IPD poly shells.

Ya I see a bit of rust, but no biggie if they're not structurally affected, I'd just get them cleaned out and use them in situ with the poly.

Or you know use the Lemförders so it works as designed..
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It's blown open? The crusty looking thing is the bushing being birthed out of it.

I can't imagine it's re-usable but also who the hell am I? I'm more concerned with how to remove them I guess?
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It's blown open? The crusty looking thing is the bushing being birthed out of it.

I can't imagine it's re-usable but also who the hell am I? I'm more concerned with how to remove them I guess?
My bad, hard to tell.

You can collapse them with a chisel but the defective IPD gold things won't press...
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My bad, hard to tell.

You can collapse them with a chisel but the defective IPD gold things won't press...
Oh good god really? What's the story on those? How does one get them in?
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Oh good god really? What's the story on those? How does one get them in?
They're not tapered so you won't, at least the ones we got were a no go in the undersized outboard hoop.

Just about ruined a factory TAB tool trying...

Hence my nagging about the stock Lemförders.

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They're not tapered so you won't, at least the ones we got were a no go in the undersized outboard hoop.

Hence my nagging about the Lemförders.

Haha... as I'm adding them to my cart. I wandered over to look at my IPD ones and they're tapered. So... hopefully it will work.

If not, I'll just push the car into a lake.
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Haha... as I'm adding them to my cart. I wandered over to look at my IPD ones and they're tapered. So... hopefully it will work.

If not, I'll just push the car into a lake.
Good news perhaps they fixed them.



Actually tapered or just round nosed?
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thebornotaku showed up one day to swap his and the aftermarket ones he brought dropped right through the hoops, luckily I had some decent take-offs laying around so he got it back on the road to Rohnert Park.
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