My 242, Now What Do I Do?

[B2fkb0]

Got a flat hood with great help from Chris (15A)! Thanks!

The paint prep begins...

[gashog]

You planning on keeping it?
I have a feeling you'll soon be geting an offer that'll be difficult to refuse.

[B2fkb0]

I've restored a handful of volvos; I'm a hobbyist who uses cars as my "art"! I restore them to keep them. My children usually get them at some point (we have seven kids and my sig is the fleet we drive!). I have sold a couple over the years to help pay tuition and/or get another car to restore.
My s70R tribute was an example;

http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthr...70-t5m-to-S70R

[B2fkb0]

I've restored a handful of volvos; I'm a hobbyist who uses cars as my "art"! I restore them to keep them. My children usually get them at some point (we have seven kids and my sig is the fleet we drive!). I have sold a couple over the years to help pay tuition and/or get another car to restore.
My s70R tribute was an example;

http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthr...70-t5m-to-S70R

[gashog]

Originally Posted by B2fkb0

I've restored a handful of volvos; I'm a hobbyist who uses cars as my "art"! I restore them to keep them. My children usually get them at some point (we have seven kids and my sig is the fleet we drive!). I have sold a couple over the years to help pay tuition and/or get another car to restore.
My s70R tribute was an example;

http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthr...70-t5m-to-S70R

Prepare for random unsolicited emails regarding your 242.
The only real research I've done re: flathood folklore was to email Volvo.
JV and Pat are just as correct as anyone else on this. No one has proof.
I have neither the time or desire to go further as my car aint for sale and I am a busy man.
Kool story is kool tho.

[B2fkb0]

Thanks and I understand busy! No tv for me, lol! Got some small parts cleaned up; sand blasted these


Detailed and painted the ps pump Tom found for me

[B2fkb0]

Got a parts car! A 90 745turbo stick; blown engine but all there, m46 gutted dash, body is rough rolling on steelies with decent snows. I know people don't like parts cars, but this one was already dead when I got it.



Are there any good engine builds you can refer me to using the lh2.4, intake/injectors/rail/Maf and exhaust manifold? At this time I want to have a mild build, say 220whp.

[gashog]

Resto mod......I guess you are keeping it.

Check the stickies.
Basically strip both to long block and bolt on EFI.
Wiring is a hack job without 240 LH 2.4. Easy enough to source.

I would freshen up the B21ft.
A little head work, cam, modern turbo and intercooler and you're there.

[B2fkb0]

I have 4 turbos to work with
The stock 83 turbo, the stock 90 turbo, a 13t from an 01 s60 lpt w angle flange, and a 16t from a 98v70r with straight flange exhaust.

Which cam, the 83 or the 90?

I've built custom downpipes to accommodate the best turbo setup.
The 90 exhaust manifold is crack free so I can use that

Won't the 740 wiring harness work on the 242? The ecu will I think.

Any advantage with the 90 head (it looks clean like it was rebuilt not long ago)?
Thanks for your thoughts!

[gashog]

Originally Posted by B2fkb0

I have 4 turbos to work with
The stock 83 turbo, the stock 90 turbo, a 13t from an 01 s60 lpt w angle flange, and a 16t from a 98v70r with straight flange exhaust.

Which cam, the 83 or the 90?

I've built custom downpipes to accommodate the best turbo setup.
The 90 exhaust manifold is crack free so I can use that

Won't the 740 wiring harness work on the 242? The ecu will I think.

Any advantage with the 90 head (it looks clean like it was rebuilt not long ago)?
Thanks for your thoughts!

16t is good.
The 740 engine whip is not as clean.
No difference in cam grinds. One has a slot. That's it. Get a performance cam....it's for fun!
Use the 398 casting IMO.
Plus if you have the head off, it's worth it to work on it.
There's a lot on the table and porting is good bang for buck.
Steam holes can be drilled also.

[B2fkb0]

Should I swap the angle flange hot side from the 13t to the 16t? Or just reclock the 16t and call it good?

[gashog]

Originally Posted by B2fkb0

Should I swap the angle flange hot side from the 13t to the 16t? Or just reclock the 16t and call it good?

You'll have to see how it fits in a 240 but I'd reclock it.
Depending on how you design your header pipe (I wish I had a pic of my old one, I gave it to another member here and I think it's scrap now) the closer the expansion chamber is to the turbine the better.

[B2fkb0]

The car has a downpipe (catless) on the original turbo. It's rusted and full of pin holes. I'll source a stock dp and use the end to connect to the 16t. I'll make the dp 3" for about 40" and connect to the 2.5" tme system that's also on the car. I'll add bungs for the a/f and the O2 sensor to it and should be good to go...

I'm debating on pulling the engine/trans so I can fully paint the engine bay. Currently it's all taped off (quick and dirty). If I pull the engine, I'll regasket/reseal/repaint it and add the m46... Such madness!

[B2fkb0]

Cleaned and treated all the rust spots


Etch primer and bondo filler



Sourced a spoiler from this board



And also sourced a downpipe



It's an angle flange unit that fits my 13t!


Thinking about taking the cold side of the 16t and mating it to the hot side of the 13t. I have a 90 turbo exhaust manifold that is crack free.
13t on right, 16t on left



Decisions, decisions! Thoughts?

[B2fkb0]

Feeling Chipper!
Got some chips from Turbotank Shane and put them in the 740 donor ecu and the Philski chippable Ezk; heading toward 2.4ville...



More to do, much more to do...
Dan

[B2fkb0]

Traded the 745 for this 85 b230f with m46 and a set of hydras/tires.


Cleaned up the engine/tranny




And gave it a compression test



Bad news was cyl 1 had 70 psi, the rest had 130-140. Oh well, the tranny is a beauty, gears and bearings look good. Came with the front driveshaft too. The hydras are straight with good rubber. I'll run those as I figure out my final rims.
Been so busy I've had no time to do much paint work. Oh well, garage time is precious!
Dan

[B2fkb0]

Now I have a question, what engine should I drop in this beast?

B230f 1995 180k
B21ft 1983 rebuilt, zero miles
B21ft original, 150k
B230f 1985 190k needs rebuilt

Should I do the lh2.4 as I've been planning or should I keep the original kjet? I've been told it would hurt the value of the car if I veer away from stock original.

Thoughts??

[John V, outside agitator]

Originally Posted by B2fkb0

Now I have a question, what engine should I drop in this beast?

B230f 1995 180k
B21ft 1983 rebuilt, zero miles
B21ft original, 150k
B230f 1985 190k needs rebuilt

Should I do the lh2.4 as I've been planning or should I keep the original kjet? I've been told it would hurt the value of the car if I veer away from stock original.

Thoughts??

Never consider re-sale value..Not in old cars, not in houses, clothes , wives.
Think only of use-value: how many laughs and aaaaahhhhh moments you get for how much money spent..

i say cage it, get some suspension from North America's leading Volvo suspension specialist, and get out in the woods and do this:



You won't be worrying about value of the car because of the overwhelming value of the experience..
Its just a car..

Beat it hard--but maintain it..
B21 with later electronic injection..

[gashog]

Originally Posted by B2fkb0

Now I have a question, what engine should I drop in this beast?

B230f 1995 180k
B21ft 1983 rebuilt, zero miles
B21ft original, 150k
B230f 1985 190k needs rebuilt

Should I do the lh2.4 as I've been planning or should I keep the original kjet? I've been told it would hurt the value of the car if I veer away from stock original.

Thoughts??

The only way the car is worth any more then any other 242 is if it was restored to stock.
I don't know that it could be done for what the car is (could be) worth.
A resto mod would probably be just as good an investment and more fun.
Kjet leaves a lot on the table and is hard to get right.
For more power/less aggravation EFI.

What's wrong with the engine you cleaned up?
Where is the compression going?
Could be as simple as a bad valve seat or blown head gasket

I like the B21ft. It takes a beating and goes fast with big cam, bewst and EFI.

[B2fkb0]

Lh 2.4, rebuilt b21ft, 16t, 3"dp, Shane's chips, v70r greens it is! Thanks for your help! Any good links to stitching the Unibody? I've got some decent experience and a mig; just need to know what seams to work on. Thanks!

[JCol91]

Originally Posted by B2fkb0

Got a parts car! A 90 745turbo stick; blown engine but all there, m46 gutted dash, body is rough rolling on steelies with decent snows. I know people don't like parts cars, but this one was already dead when I got it.



Are there any good engine builds you can refer me to using the lh2.4, intake/injectors/rail/Maf and exhaust manifold? At this time I want to have a mild build, say 220whp.

That grill up for sale?

[quillc]

As it has the SO tag, I would simply restore it to stock.

Lots of other NA 242s out there to molest.

[B2fkb0]

Originally Posted by JCol91

That grill up for sale?

I sold/traded that with the rest of the car, sorry.

[B2fkb0]

Originally Posted by quillc

As it has the SO tag, I would simply restore it to stock.

Lots of other NA 242s out there to molest.

Hmmm. Molest is such a bad word; restore to stock plus with more modern Volvo parts is what I'm going to do. Here in MI I've seen five 242's in the past two years and four were rusted with ratty interiors. They aren't as prevalent here as where you're from. I like this one, I am restoring this one and I'll make it my own as I have a dozen other rides. Those who are purists will scoff at even mild mods but that's ok! A well done resto mod will garner plenty of admiration (as well as those who disagree).

On another note I see you have a 69 firebird in you fleet; so do I! Pontiacs and Volvos seem to fit; at least how I see things, lol!

[B2fkb0]

Picked up a 95 944 today. Car was wrecked lower front, has 170k on the clock but the squirter block runs really well! Has a locker rear axle too; I'm using this as my 242 power plant!