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Old 02-15-2018, 07:55 PM   #1
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Hey all. Here's my project car (google photos be kind: I might have to transfer to flickr if these don't show up for other people): It's a 1965 122S.



And here's the other half of the car:





"That doesn't look like a Volvo" That's because it isn't! It's a Nissan Sr20DET that I paid two thousand dollars for and it came with a free car:



"So, what's the plan?" Well, I'm glad you asked! Turns out that Sr20 is worth more than I paid for it, so I'm gonna sell it! Huzzah! So, why am I posting about it here? Well, when I did this:



I thought: "Man, the suspension on that Nissan Chassis is "modern" and "new," I bet it could fit under my Volvo," which of course, it isn't, and it won't. As an example:



According to this beautiful stick figure (which is actually the older brother to my 122, in that it has more than two doors, or twice as many for those of you bad with numbers), the wheel base on the Volvo is 2600 foreign numbers long and 1310 foreign units wide. All well and good...unless:



According to this chalk-drawing, the Nissan (actually this is its older brother the s14 chassis, but it'll illustrate (no pun intended) my point) is 2525 foreign measurement thingies long, and either 1480 or 1470 numbers wide depending on which end of this car is the one that usually goes forward. Honestly, it's hard to tell which end that is from this cave painting, but I digress.

If my math is correct, those numbers are not the same. The Volvo is a little longer and the Nissan a lot fatter. So, what to do? Well, to be honest, if I'd never seen this:



I would've thrown this whole project out with the bath water if I hadn't seen that beauty. That's a helluva car! It happens to have a Nissan Skyline rolling bits underneath it, which are not only similar to my crappy Nissan, but the rear sub-frame is almost identical on both Nissans. So, that leaves the small detail of the width...well actually it doesn't if you look not-at-all closely at that Volvo, the wheels are wider than the car (I know, you may have missed it the first time (these past few phrases have been sarcasm if you couldn't tell)). So, that's the goal then.

"But wait, aren't you gonna sell that Sr20?" You bet your bottom end! "So, what's gonna go in the Volvo?" Well, the very unoriginal, dependable and powerful pushrod that you're all thinking of:



Wait, that's not the one you were thinking of? Well, you mustn't be me then!

Anyway, stay tuned for updates as I bravely go where at least that one other Swedish guy went before and swap some Neon-80's Nissan rolling gadgetry under a Volvo from the golden age, with the heart of literally millions of trucks! It should be a fun ride!
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:52 PM   #2
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Great plan and great story telling. Looking forward to watching this develop further.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:19 PM   #3
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Loving all the 122 builds going on now. Looking forward to your progress.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:31 PM   #4
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You can do eeet!!!

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Old 02-16-2018, 01:49 AM   #5
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SR20s will pull a premium until the end of time.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:56 PM   #6
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GEEZ that's a beaut!

Thanks for all the love! I've been frustrated for the past few months with my own progress, but things have kicked into high gear. I was delayed because after I bought both cars, I had to buy this stuff:
  • AHP Alpha TIG Welder (Holy beans is that thing good for the money!)
    7.5 HP 240 Volt Air Compressor and hoses/fitting, etc.
    Shop Crane
    Engine Stand
    A bunch of metal to make a tube bender and
    Metal Brake
    Various other tools I was missing

So, that kept me from actually doing cool stuff, but now I'll be doing more of the cool stuff.
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:55 AM   #7
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Fun project!
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:44 PM   #8
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A little update here.

More ripping apart of the fixed things that needed breaking:



You'll have to excuse the mess. The garage was "cleaned" because we had a vermin infestation so everything had to be hastily reorganized and I've been making too much progress to get distracted with cleaning.

Here's a shot of my strut pulling tools:



Note the unnecessary spring compressor and the superconductive electron decibel conduit used for stabilization (that's Pretengineering speak for audio cable used to prevent strut flying).

The Subframe of the Nissan has a few screws mounting it in place:







And later today I should have it out from under there. I had a good visit/conversation/show and tell with TR Conn and bought some much needed parts from him, which I've expertly mocked up here:





You can see from this second picture that only real racecars have two hoods. Note the not dentedness of both the new grill and hood! Very much needed since the old hood and grill were, at times, used as variable impact parking adjustment meters:



Should be a very nice upgrade from the cavernous snout it will be replacing. After that, it's on to the rear subframe! Huzzah! Stay tuned for more updates soon!
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:49 PM   #9
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This stuff is easy!

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Old 02-20-2018, 10:50 PM   #10
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Wowzer! That's a dem fine looking gantry you got there! Not a bad idea to use some industrial shelving for the sides.
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:02 PM   #11
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Got the subframe pulled out. There was some finagling, squeaking, cutting, bending. And the car was worse! (sorry, my 2 year old is on my lap and he really thinks the emoji animations are the bees knees, or whatever kids say these days)

Here you can see one of four bolts that were the only fasteners left to deal with, but they were a PITA to reach



When you look at the state of this Nissan, you can't help but question your own sanity in wanting to reuse any of it. But, it's free and I'm already mentally committed.

You can see in this pic the strut bar and the sub-subframe bits. Those came off separate for a total of three stamped metal pieces I'll be transplanting.



Disconnected the steering, and power steering lines and the rest was as easy as violently lowering the whole thing onto the garage floor in a screaming metal cacophony of victory!







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Old 06-27-2018, 11:45 PM   #12
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Sorry to any who have been waiting on baited breath for an update of my rather stupid project. Suffice it to say I have been hard at work and making steady progress on stuff that isn't exciting.

A brief update:
Sold the SR20DET for $2,000. I bought the whole car that it came out of for that same amount. So, now I have the two subframes, suspension, brakes, etc and the cost was 1,000,000 Bison Dollars (That's Street Fighter the Movie speak for: NOTHING. Or $0 USD if you're specificity needs outweigh your logically funny needs!)
I bought another Nissan donor car:

This one's a 1990 300zx N/A. You can tell that from the way it is. From this I get:
Bigger brakes and dual piston calipers
A limited slip (viscous type) rear differential
Bigger brake master cylinder
Brake booster
Perhaps the radiator (I'm cheap and it looks big)
Whatever else looks shiny and useful
A five speed transmission that is rumored to hold 500hp in its stock format
I have to use this:

But that's no bother. I paid $650 for the entire car. I'm hoping to part out something of the rest of it to at least get a further discount on all the parts I'm getting off of it.

In the mean time I've been pulling subframes of the Nisan 240sx and cleaning them up, taking the steering input shaft and steering wheel out of it and generally harvesting anything of value that I think I might need before it goes to be that beautiful drift track in the sky (the dismantler).

Any thoughts on other stuff I might want to grab from either of these Nissans?

I have a guy an hour and a half away who's only job it seems is selling LSx Chevy stuff. I've dabbled back and forth between getting an overpowered 6.0L LQ or an overpowered 4.8L for half the price? 6.0L will make generous power if you look at it funny, the 4.8 takes more massaging and more money but is highly respectable especially when in its stock form makes about 260 hp. A modest upgrade from the double digit horsepower the 122 has in it currently.

Anyhow, much more to come soon as I actually start dismantling the 122 in July!

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Old 06-28-2018, 01:07 PM   #13
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This is going to be rad. Keep it up!
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:21 AM   #14
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This is going to be rad. Keep it up!
I'm trying! This project is a foolish thing to do when you've got an 8 month old and a 3 year old bouncing around, but hey! I've always made a little progress on something every week since I started, so thanks for the encouragement!

The biggest hurdle now is trying to get the shell of the 240sx out of my garage. I don't own a trailer and it's got no rolling bits to tow it. I've tried to hit up some scrap metal haulers on facebook marketplace, but no one's biting. TRConn recommended cutting into pieces and at this point I either do that or waste money on a hauling company that charges for this sort of thing.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:32 AM   #15
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Also, here's my future shift knob! Yes, I nerd that hard.



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