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Very realistic!How realistic is it for me to change an older volvo (late 80's) to stright E85 on a TIGHT budget? 1-200$ max?
Get a set of bigger injectors for cheap, get them cleaned and installed. That?s it.
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Very realistic!How realistic is it for me to change an older volvo (late 80's) to stright E85 on a TIGHT budget? 1-200$ max?
Can you set it up to have a table 3 for ignition as well?E85 has done a weird sort of arc in availability here. It was introduce a couple of years ago and priced righ (well below gas). Then, for some reason, the prices for ti started creeping upwards, until it was at or (in somecases) above the price of gasoline. Obviously not a good deal considering the MPG hit you will be taking. So sales dropped to near nothing, and stations started covering up their E85 pumps. And that's where the situation sits now. I'd like to use it for the 105 octane, but it's not readily available (only a few stations still have their pumps running, none close to me), and too expensive.
When/if the situation returns to reality, I'll try it. I already set up my MS box to do it, roughly set up table 3 by scaling table 1 up 35%, installed a switch to flip to ground JP3 (IIRC) to swap tables, so I could swap between E85 and gasoline without needing a laptop (just run near empty, refill and flip the switch a little bit after starting).
NiceYeah, I expected to do a lot of tweaking and tuning when I ever got my hands on the E85, the +35% was just a rough first cut, intended to make the car driveable on its first tank.
With the same switch I swap fuel tables, AFR targets, and ignition tables. So I can tweak Fuel3, AFR3, and Ign2 all to specifically suit the ethanol. And still swap back and forth between gas and E85 with one flip of the switch.
What kind of engine does it have? Has anything been done to it?Hello
I would like to ask how and what is the best possible conversion for my car mercedes c320 2001.I heared that 2003 models are e85 compatible.mine is 2001.
Thank you in advance and highly appreciated!
What kind of engine does it have? Has anything been done to it?
The easiest thing to do, is to get injectors that are 30-45% larger than stock. In most cases the adaptation to E85 is handled by the ECU alone if you do it this way, and you don?t have to worry about anything else.
The easiest thing would be to get bigger injectors. It will always work.thank you for reply.The engine is 3.2L v6 and nothing has been changed eversince i bought the car.the ecu is still original.no modification/s.
I will look at it later during the day.85212183 the part number of the injectors.will they work without changing the injectors?
You can run E100 instead of E85. It is not a problem. You only need a little bit larger injectors than the 30-45% required for E85.Any reason you can't run straight ethanol (like pure grain alcohol by the bottle ) in a Volvo? Is it just a matter of larger injectors, just like E85?
Does that create any larger problems for fuel lines, pumps, etc?
Would the chips for LH 2.2 work well for E100?
Aaron
I will look at it later during the day.
Bosch p/n 0280155742 has a listed flow of 15.8lb/hr (166cc/min) at 43.5psi (3bar) fuel pressure. In that case you would need injectors that will flow 22.4lb/hr (235cc/min). The flow number doesn?t have to be exactly dead on.GB REMANUFACTURING Part # 85212183
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # FJ603
ACDELCO Part # 2172940 {#19146090}
INJECTOR,M/PORT FUEL
BOSCH Part # 0280155742 {Injection Valve #280155742}
here are some of the injectors part number offered for both c320 3.2L 2001 until 2005
Thanks!
Bosch p/n 0280155742 has a listed flow of 15.8lb/hr (166cc/min) at 43.5psi (3bar) fuel pressure. In that case you would need injectors that will flow 22.4lb/hr (235cc/min). The flow number doesn?t have to be exactly dead on.
The engine will feel fine even with a lot of E85 blended in actually. It is different from car to car how much they are capable of. 50/50 usually works good on most cars.Thank you!the problem is everytime I check the fuel injector for e85 compatible 2003 c320 the site will tell me they dont have it.do you know the part number of bosch with a higher flow rate?one seller told me this:
Dear Suzette - The injectors are the OEM C320 parts.
No different injectors for E85.
Our set price is $279.50 plus $60 refundable core deposit.
Bruce Holt,
Owner-Fiveomotorsport
I dont know why he say there is no different injector for e85.yesterday i tried to run the car with 2 gallons of e85 with 93 octance gasoline.i just noticed the engine run cooler at around 80centigrade almost all the time unlike before its always on 90centigrade.is it ok if i always add a gallon or two everytime i put gas on my car?will it damage the engine?
thanks!
The engine will feel fine even with a lot of E85 blended in actually. It is different from car to car how much they are capable of. 50/50 usually works good on most cars.
When he said that they use the same size injectors for E85, it is probably true. The E85 compatible C230 probably has a different ECU software, if there ever was an E85 version of the C230...? I didn?t know that there was such a thing.
But I can look for larger injectors that might be suitable for you. Other members reading this will probably also chime in with suggestions.