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Willie's '67 122 Project

Carby problem.

Okay, so, a few days ago i tried connecting my choke cables to the carbs. It didnt really work out, and now ive done something and cant get the carbs to tune. Theyre rebuilt(as well as the engine and everything else) and they were professionally tuned.

My problem seems to be the rear piston: it rises up slightly when the engine is running, making the engine rev high. I can bring it down with a finger but it goes right back up. The lifter pin isnt sticking. There are no vacuum leaks; this car was running like a champ before i fiddled with the carbs. The timing is set right. Valves done.

When i took it to the shop before, it had the same problem, and my mechanic practically touched it and fixed everything. :wtf:

I was hoping to see if anyone knew what was up before i brought it back to him. Here are some pics:

Both carbs, engine running.

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Front carb, engine running:

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Rear carb, engine running:

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Any help would be greatly appreciated. The carbs have fluid/springs ect, so i dont know what the deal is.:roll:

Cheers!
-Willie
 
Oh we had this problem on a beautifully restored 244. It wasn't the piston what was sticking, more likely the throttle shaft. One of the two springs have had slid away and it barely rotated the shaft back into position, so you had to give a quick pedal pumping to get it back to idling. :) (B21A with a single carb)
 
back to the basics here, did you disconnect the throttle linkage when you messed with the choke?

If not, the only suspect would be the choke mechanism. disconnect the choke, and with your hand, engage and disengage the choke. It should go back to normal. If it doesnt, gently push the jet back in (just up until its seated). and make sure the cam for the high idle is not touching its screw.

If you did, did you touch the idle screws at all?
 
petiww said:
Oh we had this problem on a beautifully restored 244. It wasn't the piston what was sticking, more likely the throttle shaft. One of the two springs have had slid away and it barely rotated the shaft back into position, so you had to give a quick pedal pumping to get it back to idling. :) (B21A with a single carb)
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Maybe I should get new springs? I'm using generic springs from O'reighlys. Thanks for the tip!
 
cwdodson88 said:
back to the basics here, did you disconnect the throttle linkage when you messed with the choke?

If not, the only suspect would be the choke mechanism. disconnect the choke, and with your hand, engage and disengage the choke. It should go back to normal. If it doesnt, gently push the jet back in (just up until its seated). and make sure the cam for the high idle is not touching its screw.

If you did, did you touch the idle screws at all?
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I actually didn't disconnect the linkage. :( the choke is disconnected now, and the idle screw is turned way out so its not touching.
 
wtarkington said:
Maybe I should get new springs? I'm using generic springs from O'reighlys. Thanks for the tip!
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I'm not saying it is the spring. But I think it is throttle shaft/linkage related. If only the piston goes up without the throttle being opened only the mixture screws up and the engine sputters, dies. You can easily try this out on the front carb.
 
petiww said:
I'm not saying it is the spring. But I think it is throttle shaft/linkage related. If only the piston goes up without the throttle being opened only the mixture screws up and the engine sputters, dies. You can easily try this out on the front carb.
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I think you guys are right about it being the linkage. I loosened the nuts where the little "claws" are, and low and behold everything went back to normal. I tuned he carbs and tightened the linkage but left just a bit of play and everything looked fine. I drove her around the block a few times and it felt great. It did stumble a little bit when I went faster but that eventually went away. I still have to do some tuning I think.

BUT...I went back to the house to let my brother take her for a ride, turned the car off for a bit, and now she won't start back up. The engine will start, sputter sputter sputter and then die. I try to give it some gas but nothing. Maybe idle too low? It was running fine just a minute before. :wtf::rofl:
 
check the fuel bowls, is there fuel? its it the same level for both carbs? This would also explain the sputter, clogged gross jets. or fuel boiling.
 
Rebuilt Engine

I know theyre not too popular here, but ive decided to stick with the automatic for now. Maybe in the future ill do a swap, but the auto just suits my current needs :nod: Here is the freshly rebuild B18 and tranny:

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Guts going in

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Interior updates

The car has since been tuned and had the front suspension rebuilt. The rear suspension is currently being rebuilt. Almost ready for the daily grind. Here are some shots of my interior as it stands. I have a new headliner ready for install from VP as soon as it gets back from rear suspension.

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Steering shroud rebuild

The steering shroud was thrashed and you cant find new ones for automatics, so im currently making one fron a stick shroud:

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Body work soon

Now that the suspension is almost all done, engine, tranny, carbs, cooling system all done, and brakes and electrical in working order, ill be starting on body work. Im not gunna do a pro style paint job, and dont know wha color ill do, but hopefuly itll be good enough to look at and not cringe.

So far ive got both new bumpers(not new but better) , a new nose coming in, pre-64 wheels without the notches coming in, new hood, new trunk lid, and tons of new trim.

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This will be fun:
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:cool:
 
wtarkington said:
The steering shroud was thrashed and you cant find new ones for automatics, so im currently making one fron a stick shroud:

<a href="http://s658.photobucket.com/user/wtarkington/media/column.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/wtarkington/column.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo column.jpg"/></a>

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Looking forward to see this shroud completed, painted and installed! Nice work!
 
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