home register FAQ memberlist calendar

Go Back   Turbobricks Forums > Mechanical > maintenance & nonperformance

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-28-2013, 05:14 PM   #1
volvo240skunk37
Board Member
 
volvo240skunk37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: RI
Default I am an idiot.

So you figure something as easy as replacing an alternator on an old Volvo is easy right? So easy that you could do it in a parking lot. Well I did just that today in my apartment complex's parking lot. It would've been so easy to do if the parking lot wasn't on a 45 degree angle and I actually brought the right tools home from work. Of course I forgot to bring home one of my floor jacks, a prybar and some common sense.

I bought a Denso alternator from TBer Phil and the upgrade was really easy except I of course didn't put the wires back on the alternator right and now the battery,brake failure & parking brake light is on. (Forgive me, I haven't replaced an alternator on a Volvo 240 since George W was in office.) So I'm assuming that those lights are on since I didn't change out one of the wires running from my car that would/should connect into a spade clip housing on a denso alternator and just tightened it down on an 8MM bolt next to the 13MM bolt?

If I don't make any sense, tell me lol.
-Eric
__________________
-White 1986 244 RIP 12/05
-Yellow 1984 244 RIP 7/06
-White 1991 244 Sold 8/06
-Silver 1987 244 Sold 12/06
-Black 1988 244 5 Speed RIP 12/06
-Yellow 1983 244 RIP 12/09
-Blue 1986 M46 5 Speed Sold 5/10 and still missed.
-Blue 1991 244 Sold 6/12
-Green 1983 244 Sold 4/14 - Missed horribly.
-Beige 1987 244 Sold 6/ 14
-Cream 1987 244. Hood Ride. Sold 9/16
-Red 1987 244 5 Speed Sold 5/17
-Yellow 1986 244 90K.
People either love me or hate me. Either way I could care less.
volvo240skunk37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 05:27 PM   #2
$EEKING 945 TURBO WAGON
Board Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: 47933 Shipping ZIP; Midwest
Default

Please stay out of my diary. Happens to the best of us.
$EEKING 945 TURBO WAGON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 08:16 PM   #3
240240
$600 Volvos
 
240240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: The place of Solidarity
Default

put a brake pad on backwards, took me 2 days to figure out what I did wrong...if that makes you feel better

I also put a skillsaw blade on backwards and it took me 5 minutes to figure out why a new blade would smoke so much
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by 240240 View Post
Any thread about cut springs, & or +T on a college students budget shall be sent to OT, flogged for 24 hours, participants in said thread shall point the OP in the correct thread link while simultaneously shaming them
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobxyz View Post
I'm sure glad that our mods are protecting us from excess poop in these trying times of TP shortages....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lando View Post
Shoot the poop!
Quote:
Originally Posted by culberro View Post
I commute daily hoping to get that sweet insurance settlement on my 244.

Last edited by 240240; 09-28-2013 at 08:17 PM.. Reason: me stupid idiot.
240240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 09:26 PM   #4
smokeyfan1000
Guest
 
Default

I never make mistakes like that on alternators.. You feel better now OP?
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 09:30 PM   #5
Wilford Brimley
Is posting from the grave
 
Wilford Brimley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Marysville, wa
Default

Way to humble yourself with that title. Respect.


EDIT: I have done more than stupid **** too. I'm a tranny killer, and I mean the transmission, not people.
Wilford Brimley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 09:43 PM   #6
Lord_Athlon
300+ Clurb
 
Lord_Athlon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Saudi Aurora
Default

The wire in question is the exciter wire, and it goes on a push-on spade
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by RvolvoR View Post
simple...just throw the redblock in the trash and install, well, almost anything modern

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlard View Post
Yet Asher here went with...
Lord_Athlon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 09:46 PM   #7
volvo240skunk37
Board Member
 
volvo240skunk37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: RI
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smokeyfan1000 View Post
I never make mistakes like that on alternators.. You feel better now OP?
Ill feel better when either I figure it out or somebody tells me what the hell I did wrong.
volvo240skunk37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 09:48 PM   #8
volvo240skunk37
Board Member
 
volvo240skunk37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: RI
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Athlon View Post
The wire in question is the exciter wire, and it goes on a push-on spade
Alright so instead of having it connected to the alternator, I should splice the wire and conntect it to the spade?
volvo240skunk37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 09:49 PM   #9
Lord_Athlon
300+ Clurb
 
Lord_Athlon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Saudi Aurora
Default

Yes. What you did is you grounded that circuit, so the alt shouldn't be charging.

Hook it to the spade and go go go
Lord_Athlon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 10:02 PM   #10
smokeyfan1000
Guest
 
Default

If it didn't blow the rectifier/volt regulator...............50/50?

FWIW it's hard to see which of the 2 recessed male spades it hooks to with alt in car.

I always use a blue Sharpie pen * to mark the excitor wire's location* on OLD alt before removing the wires.

Then I find the correct terminal's marking (D+ and D- are the two IIRC?)on the new alt & mark it too. Has always worked for me...so long as old alt was wired correctly to begin with.

And different alts are differently wired. So IMO, it pays to make notes/etc before removing wires sometimes.................can save one lots of time & $$.........

Last edited by smokeyfan1000; 09-28-2013 at 10:47 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 10:34 PM   #11
lummert
Board Member
 
lummert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland IN
Default

Most people don't advertise the possibility of being an idiot.
__________________
Trying to understand stupid people is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.
lummert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 11:06 PM   #12
240240
$600 Volvos
 
240240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: The place of Solidarity
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lummert View Post
Most people don't advertise the possibility of being an idiot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilford Brimley View Post
Way to humble yourself with that title. Respect.

.
that just means his tiny e-balls get in the way of his real life 9 inch tube steak. no need to prove a point when you can destroy vaginas all day long with that beast
240240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 11:09 AM   #13
coonmanx
Board Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Default

Replacing a 240's alternator sucks. Down on the bottom of the engine and behind the oil filter. Even worse on the turbo cars where there are also oil cooler lines in the way. Last time I just paid someone to do the job.

Hope nothing blew up.
__________________
Jim C.
Don't own a Brick anymore. It got crushed.
coonmanx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 11:36 AM   #14
smokeyfan1000
Guest
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by coonmanx View Post
Replacing a 240's alternator sucks. Down on the bottom of the engine and behind the oil filter. Even worse on the turbo cars where there are also oil cooler lines in the way. Last time I just paid someone to do the job.

Hope nothing blew up.
It's easy IMO. Can have one off in less than 15 minutes.....................
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 11:43 AM   #15
240240
$600 Volvos
 
240240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: The place of Solidarity
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smokeyfan1000 View Post
It's easy IMO. Can have one off in less than 15 minutes.....................
on a turbo
I need to see this video now!
240240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 11:57 AM   #16
The Spirit Of Rolling
Volvos, VWs, & NO Vagina
 
The Spirit Of Rolling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: OKC, OK
Default

Replaced a transmission in a VW Caddy three times in one day, only because I kept forgetting the order of installation. That day SUCKED... Luckily, I too can destroy vaginas; 'tis why she is divorcing me as we type.
__________________
An appreciative user of the Kinder, GentlerTurbobricks (TM)
_____________________________________________

'86 245 GL A/T- DeCarbons, BF Goodrich's, and Uro suspension bushings, woohoo!

'83 VW GTI, '83 300TD
The Spirit Of Rolling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 12:21 PM   #17
coonmanx
Board Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 240240 View Post
on a turbo
I need to see this video now!
Agreed.
coonmanx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 12:34 PM   #18
240240
$600 Volvos
 
240240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: The place of Solidarity
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spirit Of Rolling View Post
Replaced a transmission in a VW Caddy three times in one day, only because I kept forgetting the order of installation. That day SUCKED... Luckily, I too can destroy vaginas; 'tis why she is divorcing me as we type.
she will destroy your penis and your ass with very little effort....good luck to you man
240240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 01:33 PM   #19
volvo240skunk37
Board Member
 
volvo240skunk37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: RI
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smokeyfan1000 View Post
It's easy IMO. Can have one off in less than 15 minutes.....................
Ummm...okay...why you feel the need to flaunt your "mad alternator removal skillz" on an online forum is beyond me....

...anyways the car's all set..I spliced the exciter wire and plugged it into the male spade and its good to go. Thanks for the help lord athalon.

-Eric
volvo240skunk37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 01:46 PM   #20
EulieLee
Board Member
 
EulieLee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Charleston SC
Default

Got a trans all back together, looked at my work bench, crap, there's the flywheel. Luckily was old 240 and not WWD. 20 minutes later back together....funny how fast things come out when you **** it the first time.
__________________
1984 242 - sold

2009 C30 r-design
1991 Diahatsu Hijet Truck
2004 VW Golf TDI
EulieLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 01:51 PM   #21
2manyturbos
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monroe, OR USA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 240240 View Post
on a turbo
I need to see this video now!
No, definitely not on a turbo. I had to replace one on an 82 240 turbo recently, what a PITA.
2manyturbos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 02:02 PM   #22
$EEKING 945 TURBO WAGON
Board Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: 47933 Shipping ZIP; Midwest
Default

I say that admitting taking five minutes to discern a jigsaw blade's copious smoking was caused by installing it backwards took huge humility to say out loud.

We know we are taking life much too seriously when our supposedly, but mistaken "manly" pride keeps us from laughing at ourselves.

My view is that it takes major cajones to admit personal gaffes. It's hilarious to have the stones to admit the backward brake pad routine,too- but the winner is the original poster for his ballsy title.
False bravado is, well- false. Real people do stupid stuff- the humor in admitting the lessons to ourselves is the icing on the cake.
$EEKING 945 TURBO WAGON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 05:42 PM   #23
504
below the surface
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: New Orleans
Default

OP, can you post a photo of the correct location for the wire? PO installed an alternator on my recently purchased 245, and the same dash lights you mentioned are on, no charging.
504 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 06:13 PM   #24
volvo240skunk37
Board Member
 
volvo240skunk37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: RI
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 504 View Post
OP, can you post a photo of the correct location for the wire? PO installed an alternator on my recently purchased 245, and the same dash lights you mentioned are on, no charging.



Hey lemme PM ya.
volvo240skunk37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 06:20 PM   #25
volvo240skunk37
Board Member
 
volvo240skunk37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: RI
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EulieLee View Post
Got a trans all back together, looked at my work bench, crap, there's the flywheel. Luckily was old 240 and not WWD. 20 minutes later back together....funny how fast things come out when you **** it the first time.


Hahaha! That's great! Did you add ATF and everything?

Nah guys its not me having big stones or anything...I try my hardest to be a humble person..I'm a modern day hippie (except I have a job lol) and even though I know a great deal about cars, I ALWAYS ask questions and I always look at diagrams,etc. I hate "just winging it" working on cars...that's when things get messed up and that's what I did with my alt...
volvo240skunk37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:51 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.