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Old 06-16-2016, 08:10 PM   #201
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lol. Looks good to me, J-pipe off the 4>2 stock manifold, putting the turbo over by the wiper motor and a fender exit downpipe.
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:12 PM   #202
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What do you mean by fender exit downpipe?

Edit* nevermind. That would look awesome. Really loud though. Civic drivers would love it haha.
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:46 AM   #203
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This might have just become so much cheaper/easier then I thought.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Mr.+Gasket/720...FYw2gQodEC8LGw




Also thinking a Holley 390 would be great for this application. Good fuel mileage until I get into the boost and open the secondaries :D

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...y/parts/0-8007

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Old 06-17-2016, 12:17 PM   #204
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I'd say that a 390 would be adequate. Boost levels somewhere around 7-10 psi, a little water meth for hot days. Since the carb mount/intake flange can be separated from the turbo, getting a little creative with piping I think it should be doable and fit under the hood of a 122 or 140 without body modification. I think you should start mocking it up and see what would work. Make a mock up adapter out of plywood or something and see how it all fits.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:25 PM   #205
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Great idea! I have that spare boat b20 in the garage I would use for the build. So I can mock it up on that. This will likely be a winter project.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:31 PM   #206
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What I did was took measurements of the engine bay, like fender to motor>motor to radiator>motor to firewall, and mocked up my turbo stuff on a spare block using random things to simulate the obstructions. It came out pretty close. And If you have a 4>2 exhaust manifold and the 2>1 downpipe, you can cut the flange off the downpipe and using schedule 40 black steel pipe make a J pipe. The schedule 40 is thick enough to hold quite a bit of weight and handle the heat.
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Old 06-17-2016, 04:51 PM   #207
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I have a 4-2 manifold I bought last year actually. I can def use it for mock up.
What kind of fpr should I be looking at?
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Old 06-17-2016, 05:08 PM   #208
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I have a 4-2 manifold I bought last year actually. I can def use it for mock up.
What kind of fpr should I be looking at?
Since your carb is pre-turbo and not pressurized, you really just need to worry about what the carb you end up with wants. I think most holley's are like 4-7 psi, so your in block mechanical pump and a carb pressure regulator will do just fine.
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Old 06-17-2016, 10:45 PM   #209
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So the question is whether I should run a Holley 390cfm 4-barrel or a 32/36 Webber. I may have a lead on the adapter for that as well. While it may be easier to run the Webber I feel like the Holley would be a lot more fun and could provide a little more fuel when needed.
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:23 AM   #210
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A 32/36 isn't going to bolt on that manifold without an adapter, the Holley bolts right on. The weber also won't provide a whole lot of overhead in the fuel department even on a stock motor, the Holley might. I'd go with the Holley.
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Old 06-18-2016, 08:46 AM   #211
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Well I may have a lead on the Webber plenum/butterfly for that accel setup. Waiting to hear back.
However, I agree with you. I think the Holley will be a better carb for this application.

Currently hunting a cheap Webber intake.
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Old 06-20-2016, 09:10 AM   #212
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Pulled a few measurements. The carb base plate and water meth injection plate are already 6" tall when combined. I still need the 2-4 barrel adapter plate (1"), carb (3-4") and air filter (2-4"). So I'll need around a foot of clearance from the tom of the Dgv intake to the hood.
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Old 06-20-2016, 11:35 AM   #213
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Pulled a few measurements. The carb base plate and water meth injection plate are already 6" tall when combined. I still need the 2-4 barrel adapter plate (1"), carb (3-4") and air filter (2-4"). So I'll need around a foot of clearance from the tom of the Dgv intake to the hood.
Well that doesnt seem like it will fit either a 140 or 122 without cutting a whole in the hood... But you can still cut away the piece that goes from the carb to the turbo, then just using standard IC piping run it into the manifold.

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Old 06-20-2016, 08:20 PM   #214
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I agree. But for some reason I'm kinda attached to the nostalgia of the accel kit. I think a 142 with a chrome ram air scoop coming out of the hood offset to the passenger side could look awesome!
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:26 PM   #215
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I agree. But for some reason I'm kinda attached to the nostalgia of the accel kit. I think a 142 with a chrome ram air scoop coming out of the hood offset to the passenger side could look awesome!
I think the lines of a 142 would take to a scoop better than a 122. I say go for it if thats what you want to do. I kinda like crazy ideas.
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:27 PM   #216
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I like the hood cutout location in that pic. I'm thinking a ram air style scoop/filter like this would look awesome as long as I didn't get too crazy with it.



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Old 06-22-2016, 09:02 AM   #217
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On the hunt for a Hansen Racing Holley compatible b20 intake. That would eliminate the adapter and likely provide much better flow.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:40 AM   #218
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Still wish this would fit in the 122.

I suppose I could buy a junk hood and expierement with an offset scoop on the Amazon.

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Old 10-07-2016, 09:17 PM   #219
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Time to resurrect this thread. Winter approaches and it's got my gears going on this project again.

Some things I need to determine:
1) How much boost can a stockish b20 handle?
2) How much boost can this setup produce? Do I need to upgrade the compressor?
3) What car should it go in?
4) What transmission and rear end?

Summary of the goals:
1) Quick (0-60 in <6 seconds)
2) Unique (something new/weird)
3) Fun
4) Cheap (it can be ugly, but must be functional)
5) Awesome turbo noises!!! Haha
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Old 10-08-2016, 09:06 PM   #220
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Picked up another weird part that was associated with this kit today. (Got it from the guy I purchased the kit from) Some sort of a Webber adapter???



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Old 10-20-2016, 08:29 PM   #221
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So I started to mock this up on a spare motor in the garage and I'm seeing some issues. Currently I would need about 7" of clearance above the valve cover.

With the right intake this may gain the needed space. Just brainstorming.

http://www.jameng.com/products/SU%7B...r-adapter.html

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Old 10-24-2016, 11:05 AM   #222
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Current shopping reveals (used parts where applicable because turbobricks haha):

-msd boost master timing controller $175
-water meth injection $180-$250
-Holley 390 carb $160
-Holley to Weber adapter $15
-Accel turbo kit $200 purchased
-Weber DD b20 intake $50
-misc exhaust pipe $50
-Air filter $40
-b20 rebuild with cam $1,100


Estimated total: $2k

So this brings into question another option. I have a 302, t5, 82' 242 roller and the turbo kit.
Estimated cost: $750.
This project may be taking a sharp turn in direction. .... Budget constraints haha
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Old 10-24-2016, 07:07 PM   #223
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Is that $1,100 for the rebuilt B20 including the machine shop cost ?

I'd think an engine swap is really going to get expensive, expecially with the 302. At the very least if you go that route you'll also need a stronger rear end.
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Old 10-24-2016, 10:43 PM   #224
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Yea, that's a light freshen up at the machine shop.

As for the swap, i already have most of what i would need for the 242, including mounts etc. As for a rear, i'd just cut an 8.8 down I believe.

So many choices!!!
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Old 10-28-2016, 09:24 PM   #225
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That's a pressure wash at the machine shop I use. Lol

The 8.8 out of an Exploder? Don't you just take two of them and stick the short side of one on the other?
Got an Exploder in the garage now but it's got the IRS.
It's not mine ! Doing a brake/bearing job for a buddy's girlfriend. He gives me a few beers and he gets. . . Well you know.
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