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Old 11-18-2010, 06:30 PM   #101
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:00 PM   #102
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So is it being shorted to fit the 5 cyl? Aside from what I assume to be more volume, what are the advantages to using a 960 pan? I don't think I have heard of this till now.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:03 PM   #103
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...what are the advantages to using a 960 pan? I don't think I have heard of this till now.
Needed to clear the cross member when not mounted in it's "normal" transverse position. i.e. in a 240.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:31 PM   #104
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Needed to clear the cross member when not mounted in it's "normal" transverse position. i.e. in a 240.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:37 PM   #105
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Slightly more elegant solution than bfh utilisation to establish clearance.

Great project, I am looking forward to reading about each development whenever I log on.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:56 PM   #106
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Slightly more elegant solution than bfh utilisation to establish clearance.

Great project, I am looking forward to reading about each development whenever I log on.
A BFH would not do it. You'd need to completely different crossmember. It's not like it's "kinda close" with the fwd pan...
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:30 PM   #107
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Needed to clear the cross member when not mounted in it's "normal" transverse position. i.e. in a 240.
Oh okay, that's pretty sensible as opposed to weakening the cross member.
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:34 PM   #108
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oh okay, that's pretty sensible as opposed to removing the cross member and steering rack and using pieces of string tied to the wheels to steer the car.
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:47 PM   #109
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Bahahaha.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:22 PM   #110
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The halves got gooped back up



This part came out ok. The section not visible, not so much



Had some real trouble with this top corner. There was a massive pocket of slag right at the cut which made welding it pretty difficult. Had to boil the crap out and file it off the top about 50 million times before the metal was clean enough to join up ok. Net effect was there was very little material left so I was forced to burn some more filler on there to build it back up.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:31 PM   #111
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Is there any issue with taking a 5-cyl pan and cutting it so that it is 'thinner' in the required areas? The 6-cyl cut pan is probably easier but in the absence of a 6-cyl pan can a 5-cyl pan be modded to fit?
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:24 PM   #112
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Is there any issue with taking a 5-cyl pan and cutting it so that it is 'thinner' in the required areas? The 6-cyl cut pan is probably easier but in the absence of a 6-cyl pan can a 5-cyl pan be modded to fit?
You would have to "notch" it because the oil filter mount would need to remain unchanged, and you'd need to make some manner of custom pickup. At that point the motor would be a real bitch to install.

Alex, I tend to clean cast parts quite a bit more than that. Hitting it with a flap disc until the material is shiny with no trace of the rough casting finish makes life easier.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:46 PM   #113
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Giggle.
Another solution would be a dry sump, but that's so far off the scale of logic for this project right now.
(Yes I did attempt to make this project sound logical)

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Old 11-19-2010, 03:45 AM   #114
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a bfh would not do it. You'd need to completely different crossmember. It's not like it's "kinda close" with the fwd pan...
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Old 11-19-2010, 04:36 AM   #115
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I always forget how disproportionate a shortened 960 pan looks. The sump is absolutely enormous in relation to the total length

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Alex, I tend to clean cast parts quite a bit more than that. Hitting it with a flap disc until the material is shiny with no trace of the rough casting finish makes life easier.
The pics make it look dirtier than it is. The pan welded surprisingly well everywhere except that one top corner that was just horrendous. Must have been a casting defect right there. The job was exacerbated by the fact that the die grinder broke and I had to file everything by hand.

One corner of the pan rail only lifted about .25mm after welding so I shouldn't have to machine off that much to bring it back to flat.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:39 AM   #116
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I always forget how disproportionate a shortened 960 pan looks. The sump is absolutely enormous in relation to the total length



The pics make it look dirtier than it is. The pan welded surprisingly well everywhere except that one top corner that was just horrendous. Must have been a casting defect right there. The job was exacerbated by the fact that the die grinder broke and I had to file everything by hand.

One corner of the pan rail only lifted about .25mm after welding so I shouldn't have to machine off that much to bring it back to flat.
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:58 PM   #117
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Turbo arrived.
Nothing can be easy, can it?
The guy left the snap ring out of the comp housing. Up side? This thing is practically new.





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Old 11-19-2010, 02:33 PM   #118
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:44 PM   #119
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:46 PM   #120
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:47 PM   #121
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Shipping damage. Ugh.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:12 PM   #122
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:30 PM   #123
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Send it back. Or sell it to Brett.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:33 PM   #124
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The likelyhood of me getting a refund is low. We'll see. I'd rather throw 40$ for a new comp wheel at it.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:35 PM   #125
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