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Old 05-05-2015, 11:59 PM   #176
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They specify to mount it with the heat sink up and in the engine bay
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:48 AM   #177
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what is their reasoning for that?
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Old 05-06-2015, 03:14 AM   #178
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From the box's documentation:

"The MSD can be mounted in most positions, except directly upside down (if upside down, moisture
or water cannot escape). It can be mounted in the engine compartment as long as it is away from
direct engine heat sources. It is not recommended to mount the unit in an enclosed area such as
the glovebox."
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Old 05-06-2015, 03:48 PM   #179
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Vent glovebox with a small fan of some sort if you're worried that might be a problem? I couldn't see that being hard to do cleanly.
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Old 05-06-2015, 04:24 PM   #180
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I use my glove box for its intended purpose. The BTM is fine where it is. I will probably build a nice bracket and get it powdercoated down the line.
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Old 05-09-2015, 09:10 PM   #181
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I use my glove box for its intended purpose. The BTM is fine where it is. I will probably build a nice bracket and get it powdercoated down the line.
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Old 05-10-2015, 12:32 AM   #182
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It isn't in the glove box its under it. It's clean. I made the lh and msd harness quick disconnect so I can bypass it if it poops out on me
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Old 05-10-2015, 01:52 AM   #183
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Old 05-10-2015, 02:08 AM   #184
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Gloves.
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:08 PM   #185
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So I took it to PIR last weekend to get some baselining done on the 1/4 mile. Veredict: timing is all over the damn place.

60': 2.54 s
ET: 15.2 s
Trap: 94.5 mph

Basically what happens is that there is absolutely nothing when off the line. Holds 10 psi past the 60ft marker while barely accelerating, then it takes off. Pretty sure I could get another 2-3 mph on the trap and more than a second shaved off if the damn thing would even launch.

As it is I can get it to build 10 psi stationary but it won't even do a burnout

At any rate, Pat took it round the block and advised to bump base timing and back off the boost a bit, but that otherwise the car feels fine running-wise; feels quicker with less detonation, but the timing map definitely needs some revision.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:15 PM   #186
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60': 2.54 s
ET: 15.2 s
Trap: 94.5 mph
It will hold 10psi with out spinning the tires? Your 60' should be WAY better if that is correct.
Did you get the boost stabilized?
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:36 PM   #187
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Drags were at ipd weekend. Guess that was two weeks ago actually

Yes, it will hold 10 psi while stationary and refuses to break traction in the dry.

Boost has not been stabilized yet. I will get around to it this weekend, hopefully.
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:43 PM   #188
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Slow car is slow
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Old 05-30-2015, 12:23 AM   #189
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Needs Megasquirts.
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Old 05-30-2015, 12:24 AM   #190
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pretty sure that's the time ruin got with kyle driving.
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Old 05-30-2015, 02:52 AM   #191
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Needs Megasquirts.
think you need to backtrack and find the issue other then a band aid solution.

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Old 05-30-2015, 03:39 AM   #192
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other than it being slow, i like this car. although i will vouch for its quickness earlier in the day that friday.
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Old 05-31-2015, 07:07 PM   #193
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Some videos of the 5/16 drags that my buddy Marty filmed:



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Old 05-31-2015, 07:13 PM   #194
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Been having some random engine quits here and there. Since the car was going way lean right before quitting I determined the fuel pump relay was the prime suspect. Was not disappointed. Seems like all of the relays manufactured during the mid-90s have issues where solder joints crack and require reflowing. None of my late 80s or early 90s (through '92) relays seem to have this issue (this one has a 1996 mfg date stamp):











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Old 06-01-2015, 12:58 PM   #195
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Nice videos. That was a pretty fast Volvo wagon you were racing. You should have had that sideways engine clown. Time for more boost.
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Old 06-01-2015, 01:27 PM   #196
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Thanks! Would have had him if the ECU had not entered knock enrichment/timing pullback mode on the 2-3 shift from all the detonation, or the big bog at the starting line that allowed Ole to jump a car length in front of me at the 60' mark. Once I get the tuning sorted this thing will hit high 13s without any additional boost.

That is, once I get my MS all set up because EZK is garbage in high boost applications.

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Old 06-01-2015, 06:51 PM   #197
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once I get my MS all set up
If you can't properly set up and adjust/tune LH/EZK, why in the world do you think MS is going to be easier?
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:03 PM   #198
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If you can't properly set up and adjust/tune LH/EZK, why in the world do you think MS is going to be easier?
Because I sold my Ostrich and the raw value conversion formulas for EZK seem to be wrong (I don't see how 25 degrees of advance at peak load/highest RPM value). It's not that I can't calibrate a table, but there is nowhere near enough groundwork for me to be able to reverse-engineer the system (I did well enough with the 940 and LH 2.4). At that point I'm much better off with something that is built to be tuned from the get-go.

I do plan on getting the boost reference corrected first, with the MBC deleted, BTM bypassed, and stock ignition computer used.

The other option is to set the base advance to 10 degrees with stock computers and run ****loads of boost, at the expense of all driveability.

On a side note, it looks like the MAF plug is in terrible shape altogether. Seems like this may be the reason the CO adjustment needs to be re-set all the time? By this point I'm all out of other sensors and wiring to fix.
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:24 PM   #199
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Stage 0.
Not Stage 3 and then fix all of Stage 0.
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Alright alright , I'll double down.
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