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Old 09-13-2009, 08:15 PM   #1
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Default '75 245: my quest for a unique and fun DD








*shudder*





slapped some c-list $100 specials on it, wheels are ugly but the tires are a pretty nice brand new set.





i bought the car from another bricker who had enough projects on his hands already for $500. went out and dinked with it a dew times at his place, but had it towed home in the end. i went straight to work on the kjet bits and soon ran into this:



so then i get out of the car and find the following carnage





yes, it backfired so hard that it blew the bellows onto the neighbor's roof, as well as blowing the intake tube to shreds and bending the **** out of the fuel dizzy plate.

after more tinkering, and a failed attempt at swapping in the kjets from a b21, i decided i'd just go carbed on the damn thing for now.







poly installed in updated torque rods

































anything painted white is just primered for the sake of de-rusting while i was putting new bushings in. after i fix the holes in the floor i will re-apply some undercoating to them.

here are some fresh pics of installed chokes and general current status:


this seemed like a nice spot to put the choke pull.


d'oh, hood is popped.




the little double-cable hingey part is from an 1800. the bracket i've screwed it to is a coolant reservior bottle mount from an early 240 turbo its a little on the ghetto side, but once i get a strut brace in there i'll be bolting it to that.


uh oh.


B28 from an '80 bertone. both the manuals i have confirm that for whatever reason, the '80 engines had more valve lift. not sure why. and i believe it was 78 or 79 that bumped compression to 8.7:1 instead of 8.3:1, so that helps a tiny bit, too.

the current plan is to get this engine shacked-up with a T-5 trans and get the motor back closer to the firewall where it belongs, instead of hanging over the front axle. i'm waiting on RSI for the adapter plate as we speak. initially i will be running a rochester 2GC carb, the advice of the owner of a local place called "Grumpy's Performance". i told him it was for a DeLorean (better he think i'm doing something worthwhile instead of working on a volvo ) and he said that the carb can support good power, can be tuned for excellent drivability, can achieve pretty good mileage, parts are filthy cheap, and any idiot can tune one.







i got this one on ebay for $17 shipped. it was a rebuilt unit some shop had on the shelf for too many years. looks like fun to me.

updates will happen as they happen to the car. i have a set of gaskets and such i'll be putting into this engine, along with a new timing chain and a set of alloy rockers. not too sure how i'm going to degrease this thing yet, i may just find a local place and have the nasty thing hot tanked. depends on the cost, and whether or not my boss ****s his pants when i ask if i can hoist it over the solvent tank and go to town on it
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:37 PM   #2
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Fun! I like the first pic the best.
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:03 PM   #3
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This looks like it's going to be a neat project!
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:07 PM   #4
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Nice one!
Good color!

The new rimz are fugly imo.
At least the early 240 steelies were bombproof.

PRV it will be I guess?
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The new rimz are fugly imo.
yeah yeah, i know. i had a set of 15x7 BBS meshes for it, but they were either stolen from behind my ex's apartment after i moved out (but before i could come back and get them) or she sold them and lied about it. so it's getting hydras until i can afford something cooler.

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Old 11-13-2009, 10:58 PM   #6
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just for fun. untimely alternator death (lol just kidding, it was 35 years old) lead to head scratching and ****ing around, the half-installed in the car right now is a 90amp model from a 16v vw. i finished the tensioner arm today and will be finalizing the install tomorrow, with pics to come.
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Carb'd PRV 5sp to come?
Subscribed so I can live vicariously.

I badly want to do this. California says otherwise.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:25 PM   #8
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Nice to see someone still using the PRV V6.


Do you have a stock inlet manifold to use with the new carb? The Renault 30 had a single carb version, or maybe one was available from an Eagle model or something?

I found the K-jet engines prone to high bore wear anyway, but what about some of the later EFI systems from some of the later derivatives? ... or go to a later even-fire motor (with possible sump alteration)?


I've wondered about swapping in the drivetrain from a wrecked Nissan 350Z....?
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I badly want to do this. California says otherwise.
find a '75 and dooooo eeeet. comically enough, i have to DEQ this thing but it's a non catalyst car...so i doubt they're going to be all that restrictive about what comes out of it i figure if i can't get it to pass i'll put a damn cat on it and it will probably be fine.

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Do you have a stock inlet manifold to use with the new carb?
oh you mean this thingy?



that center piece is largely useless and will not be part of the finished manifold, but ths is the B27a intake manifold, i'm told it used a rather anemic pierburg carb.
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Nice! it's the sistership to my 75 245!
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:35 PM   #11
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Seriously, I 'bout cried when I found this thread. Seeing all the great parts you are throwing her way, keeping her appreciated. I think where you put the choke pull is where it was intended to be for sure. My favorite picture is the intake stuff blasted onto the roof, glad no one was hurt!
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this is awesome!
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:42 PM   #13
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Seriously, I 'bout cried when I found this thread. Seeing all the great parts you are throwing her way, keeping her appreciated.
well thanks for the good deal. this one's a winner, i think i'll be keeping it a while.

oh and finished alternator install:



crappy pic, not sure what the cam was trying to focus on. but you can almost see how the belt lines up perfectly



i like it.

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Good stuff!

I got my 245 with a busted intake hose just like yours. Bought a new one from the dealer for $45 and had myself a running car.

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I've thought about using the V6 as well, waaaay down the line. I'm interested as to how this turns out.
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I want your clutch bellhouse from that B20!
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is that an m46???
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is that an m46???
nope, M40. if it were M46 i'd have already put an M41 behind it and sold the super-rare bellhousing for cash to fund the T-5 swap

here's the sweet belly pan the car came with, i finally got around to installing it today. i'm hoping that with the addition of this and the deletion of the roof rack i'll pick up a mpg or two on the freeway.





it's steel, and pretty solidly built. i massaged a couple dents out of it before installing, down the line i may add some extra bracing inside to make it even stronger.
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Good Luck on a good looking project! I just picked up a 1980 245 for a daily driver. Getting the K-Jet bugs worked out on mine now.
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really? i have a couple of them kicking around are they getting hard to find over there?
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really? i have a couple of them kicking around are they getting hard to find over there?
Yeah, a bit. They're golden for straightening up the redblock, and using an M4x gearbox.
That's also with the B20 oilpan, but that is'nt that hard to find here.

The 200's with B20 was only in 75-76, i believe. With that bellhouse, i'm thinking
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I heart wagons. Nice work so far~!

M40's are awesome...weird having a transmission that's roughly the size and weight of a PS3. lol!
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B28 from an '80 bertone. both the manuals i have confirm that for whatever reason, the '80 engines had more valve lift. not sure why. and i believe it was 78 or 79 that bumped compression to 8.7:1 instead of 8.3:1, so that helps a tiny bit, too.

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Interesting to be wanting to do this. How are you going to move the engine back when the lower block design is so the sump sits in front? Even john hasn't given much away on how to do it as the frenchies used similar setups as well.

But I look forward to seeing it done, what happened to the 262?
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I think he made this thread rather confusing as he is talking about two cars in one thread. He still has the 262 which he's going to try to stuff the b28 in as well as the white 245 wagon that he carbed.
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